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Title: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Isdej on 09 05, 2023, 11:54:30 pm

While testing miner I noticed that the progress was really slow. In an hour it was possible to get around 18k in progress. With the 2.5m requirement for L10 it would take around 140 hours to get there, which is incredibly long. I am proposing to change that. Here are two possible solutions:

1. Simply reducing the requirements, you could make the requirements for L10 something like 1m. Making it take 56 hours. L10 taking around 50 hours is pretty fair. These would be the full requirements:

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L1: 7.500 grams
L2: 15.000 grams
L3: 25.000 grams
L4: 40.000 grams
L5: 80.000 grams
L6: 150.000 grams
L7: 250.000 grams
L8: 400.000 grams
L9: 650.000 grams
L10: 1.000.000 grams

Requirements might have to be changed further in the future, if the iron price continues to grow.

2. Changing the progression unit from grams to earnings. The iron you earn is based on the average market price, so the grams that you earn go down when the market price gets higher, which it has been doing forever. Changing it to earnings would take into account the price of iron. Though this isn't guaranteed to fix it and would require more testing later, because other factors might have had an influence too.

Both options are fine with me, option 1 is the quicker and easier fix, while option 2 might be better in the long term.

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Metall on 10 05, 2023, 01:28:14 am

I'm usually against lowering leveling requirements because it's a kick in the nuts to those that have made the hussle to get L10. But in this case with the recent nerfs to the job and absolutely dramatic increase in Iron prices, leveling up Iron Miner is simply the hardest job right now. I'd say Option 1 is the easiest and most reliable way to fix this because I sincerely doubt Iron prices will go down and if so making it even easier to level up. A  :tick: from me.

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Katmer on 10 05, 2023, 01:35:28 am

Great idea but the level is difficult so it makes sense to have 1m gram 10 level because it would be good to increase the iron material a little bit, the mechanic will gain 500 iron and the miner will reduce the number of workers. Enough to gain 1000 iron in 2 minutes. There is trouble to increase the number of miner workers.

result: positive  :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Culph on 10 05, 2023, 10:57:35 am

Didnt realize it was that hard to get L10, this will obviously make the job easier and more played.  :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: iAris on 10 05, 2023, 03:26:13 pm

:tick:, current iron miner progress is incredibly slow

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Arthur. on 10 05, 2023, 03:57:55 pm

I like option 1, it is quite reasonable, I've been trying to get L10 for quite some time but I can never make it, option 2 is waay go complicated and complex to be implemented so option 1 seems most reasonable and better, I wanna level up and this should help me since 350k iron isn't very hard to earn if you work consistently. I am L9 currently, so I agree that this should be implemented and make it easier for new players. Positive

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: gq on 10 05, 2023, 07:56:28 pm

after the new update in the miner requirements and leveling system the job became very hard to reach L10 I think this idea would be great to fix that problem and make it easier a little bit, I'm going Positive.

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: WakaMan on 11 05, 2023, 03:34:47 am

I agree that Iron Miner is probably one of the most difficult jobs to upload currently, after the large number of changes that the job underwent, it has become quite difficult to reach level 10. In my opinion, I think that of the two options you propose number 1 is the best, number 2 could be analyzed and improved in the future, but I find it difficult to solve the current situation in the short term. I'm voting positive.  :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: TwCafe on 11 05, 2023, 10:04:26 am

 :thumb: :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: RoMaNa on 11 05, 2023, 01:16:34 pm

Well I'm currently really suffering from this problem the current progress of miner is pretty low which makes it really hard to farm iron like it was used long ago I have been stuck on L9 for god knows how much time so that's would be very good due to the current system of miner  :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: thund3R on 11 05, 2023, 01:48:21 pm

:tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: hyperlink on 11 05, 2023, 02:24:47 pm

I'm currently L9 and since miner is nerfed im not getting 1m more units, I believe after the nerf 2m is too much.  :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Private on 11 05, 2023, 03:20:55 pm

 :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Kacem on 12 05, 2023, 02:11:31 pm

It became very difficult to level up the miner job level after the pms update.  :tick: :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Taeko. on 15 05, 2023, 05:13:55 pm

I mean, reaching L10 in miner before the recent changes was kinda hard too, but now its really difficult, especially for players who are really low in progress. I think a change in the job progression system is necessary after the recent updates regarding the job. :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Maes on 16 05, 2023, 06:13:34 pm

Positive because miner have very hard level up system  :tick:

Title: Re: Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: TwCafe on 17 05, 2023, 09:33:55 am

17 positive votes. Marked as MP. (old requirement)

Title: Re: [++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Conroy on 17 05, 2023, 05:59:28 pm

Reaching level 10 in miner is extremely difficult. Therefore, reducing the leveling requirements for the miner would be great because the current leveling requirements are excessively high. Positive.

Title: Re: [++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Fran[k] on 17 05, 2023, 06:04:55 pm

 :tick:

Title: Re: [++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: iMazen on 20 05, 2023, 05:22:10 pm

I agree with you , and this will help new players. am Postive  :tick:

Title: Re: [++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Danzy on 21 05, 2023, 12:52:08 pm

I assume people did not test cave miner or iron miner. FYI they share progression. Does it take the same amount of time to level up the miner jobs using cave miner or iron miner? If those two jobs level the miner faster then that is a good thing as Miner is notorious for payment and or botting. This'a good balance between the three miner jobs (Space miner not included nobody plays it)

Title: Re: [++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Isdej on 21 05, 2023, 06:28:02 pm

Quote from: Danzy on 21 05, 2023, 12:52:08 pm

I assume people did not test cave miner or iron miner. FYI they share progression. Does it take the same amount of time to level up the miner jobs using cave miner or iron miner? If those two jobs level the miner faster then that is a good thing as Miner is notorious for payment and or botting. This'a good balance between the three miner jobs (Space miner not included nobody plays it)

Iron miner is more or less just as fast as LS miner, with around 18k per hour. I tested cave miner a bit more today and noticed that around 25k per hour is possible. All tests were done at the same /pms of around 0% Nvm, just noticed that they all have a different /pms, I'm guessing cave miner was at a higher percentage, since LS miner is pretty consistently lowest on /pms.

Though I am not sure if people below L10 progress just as quick as I do. Everything I tested was while I already was L10, so progression might be slower at lower levels.

Title: Re: [++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: TwCafe on 25 05, 2023, 12:52:56 am

High Priority now.

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Xelso on 25 05, 2023, 04:05:58 pm

 :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Persius#USSF on 27 05, 2023, 03:41:05 pm

curret system is fine there is no need for change  :cros:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: ReDoXx on 27 05, 2023, 10:17:02 pm

yeah miner progress is too slow, I do like your idea especially option 1  :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Aurelius.- on 29 05, 2023, 12:38:34 am

Im really dying to reach L10 especially with nerf this new update will make the job fair. so Positive

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Prixor on 30 05, 2023, 01:06:36 pm

good adjustment to the numbers, Positive  about this one. :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Mariaa on 30 05, 2023, 04:53:55 pm

The actually requeriments for iron miner job are so high like waste manager, I remember some time ago all jobs requeriments were buffed/nerfed to be all similar (between 35-55 hours from L0 to L10) and sometimes the jobs are changing and you aren't caring about the requeriments. I am positive.

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Loka on 01 06, 2023, 09:40:30 pm

I am positive as the level 10 is so hard to get and will make the job more playable for all cit players  :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: KarabiN on 06 06, 2023, 05:55:58 pm

Leveling up in Miner used to be at least an average job anyway. With the arrival of the new update it is now very difficult to see the Miner as almost +10% in /paymultstats. This job is one of the most difficult jobs to level up nowadays, I would even say the hardest. I believe that with the addition of this idea to the game, the problem will disappear. Positive :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: AlabasterSlim on 12 06, 2023, 11:41:30 am

Sure... Due to the recent nerf players lost motivation playing as a Iron miner and the market lacks competition.. By decreasing the amounts required for a certain level might bring some competition back into the market..

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Abdelrhman. on 13 06, 2023, 03:38:51 pm

Literally, it's hard now to get promotions, unlike before or in the old system.  :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: R4 on 13 06, 2023, 07:02:15 pm

 :tick: :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Changing the leveling requirements/unit of miner
Post by: Danzy on 18 06, 2023, 04:38:54 pm

Option 2 is tricky to do without messing up players' progression to the extent of no repair.

However lowering requirements is easier, L10 is now 1,250,000 grams, which should be ~65 to 70 hours to reach L10 to keep it consistent with other jobs.

- Significantly lowered requirements to level up for all the 'Miner' jobs. (Danzy + Isdej)