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Title: [+++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: WooZy on 23 05, 2023, 01:34:23 pm
Hello there, I hope everyone is doing okay
from what I've seen as a dedicated civilian, I made more than 14 jobs L10, it was never easy for me, but also seeing some jobs getting changes, it makes us harder for some jobs to make progress in them, as you already know that Fuel Transporter is really hard to progress on, but at least it's not extremely hard as the one I'll be talking about right now
today I'm talking about waste manager job
well, some of you may know that it was easier before, it was that you have to go to specific houses and take garbage from them, after you fill the trashmaster capacity you go to the dumpster and clear out the garbage in the tashmaster, now the system got changed, most of the houses are visible around the cities, you can see it clearly through the map
anyways you get 2 items from each bag which sounds okay in my opinion, but looking at the requirements for leveling
-- Job Ranks
L0. Sewage Pipe Cleaner
L1. Sweeping Brush - Req: 500
L2. Litter Grabber - Req: 1500
L3. Litter Bin Emptier - Req: 3500
L4. Leaf Blower - Req: 6500
L5. Rubbish Collector - Req: 10500
L6. Rubbish Truck Driver - Req: 15500
L7. Rubbish Truck Manager - Req: 21000
L8. Sanitation Officer - Req: 27000
L9. Sanitation Inspector - Req: 33500
L10. Sanitation Chief - Req: 40000
You guys can see it's really hard to do, does it look okay to get 20000 bags in order to be L10 in this job? I see with the current changes on job system and so, I see it's really doing ok and I prefer the current system, but the leveling is not satisfying at all, so that's why I'm requesting to decrease the job requirements to the following
-- Job Ranks
L0. Sewage Pipe Cleaner
L1. Sweeping Brush - Req: 300
L2. Litter Grabber - Req: 750
L3. Litter Bin Emptier - Req: 1600
L4. Leaf Blower - Req: 2400
L5. Rubbish Collector - Req: 4000
L6. Rubbish Truck Driver - Req: 5600
L7. Rubbish Truck Manager - Req: 7300
L8. Sanitation Officer - Req: 9100
L9. Sanitation Inspector - Req: 10900
L10. Sanitation Chief - Req: 14500
In my opinion, I see that the current requirements I gave is more fair than the previous requirements, as the system changes, progressing in it changes too
you can tell me if there's anything wrong with the requirements, also if you find something needs to be changed let me know.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Metall on 23 05, 2023, 03:02:32 pm
This is also to take into consideration,

- Fixed fisherman and waste manager job progress being twice as fast as should be. (Arran + Nuko)

Meaning this job is twice as hard as it used to be to level up.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Persius#USSF on 23 05, 2023, 04:31:42 pm
I disagree I think current system is fine no need for unnecessary changes
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Mariaa on 23 05, 2023, 05:26:50 pm
Greetings,

Actually this job is the hardest job we have now, you said it increase 2 per each bag but it isn't like that, it just increase 1 per each bag making the job even more harder because I tried to collect the most bags in one hour and I just did 150 per hour, that means that leveling this job to L10 will take more than 267 hours and this is really out of control, I am huge positive.  :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: WooZy on 23 05, 2023, 09:45:00 pm
I disagree I think current system is fine no need for unnecessary changes
CAN you please prove your point?
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Arthur. on 23 05, 2023, 10:54:21 pm
I like this suggestion since I understand the pain a player must go through to level up in waste manager and it's more than reasonable to have the progress lowered so the player can level up. positive
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Denos on 23 05, 2023, 11:12:51 pm
I agree, I’ve played it and barely made progress. Compared to other jobs, requirements are way too high.

  :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Kacem on 23 05, 2023, 11:33:34 pm
It is still difficult to level up this job compared to other jobs. Positive
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: gq on 23 05, 2023, 11:43:01 pm
Its a little bit hard to level up in this job, this idea would be great to make the leveling system easier in this job,I'm going Positive.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Drago. on 24 05, 2023, 06:46:46 am
Don't think its required, the job has been made so simple by Brian in the last update that it doesn't really take much to gather up all the bags now. Back then, you had to go near houses to actually see the blips and still a LOT of people had hit L10. Just grind the job, it's not that hard.

Also,
Tuesday 6th July 2021
- Reduced waste manager promotion requirements by 30%. (Arran + Ths)
Saturday 9th April 2022
- Halved promotion requirements of Waste Manager job. (Brian + Revo)

Don't forget, many people had hit L10 even before those updates were introduced ^
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Denos on 24 05, 2023, 07:28:22 am
Don't think its required, the job has been made so simple by Brian in the last update that it doesn't really take much to gather up all the bags now. Back then, you had to go near houses to actually see the blips and still a LOT of people had hit L10. Just grind the job, it's not that hard.

Also,
Tuesday 6th July 2021
- Reduced waste manager promotion requirements by 30%. (Arran + Ths)
Saturday 9th April 2022
- Halved promotion requirements of Waste Manager job. (Brian + Revo)

Don't forget, many people had hit L10 even before those updates were introduced ^

Most jobs are easy, but this just takes forever to level.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Isdej on 24 05, 2023, 08:27:58 am
I did some testing as well, managed to get 240 in an hour. 40000/240=167 hours, which is too long compared to other jobs.

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Don't think its required, the job has been made so simple by Brian in the last update that it doesn't really take much to gather up all the bags now. Back then, you had to go near houses to actually see the blips and still a LOT of people had hit L10. Just grind the job, it's not that hard.

Also,
Tuesday 6th July 2021
- Reduced waste manager promotion requirements by 30%. (Arran + Ths)
Saturday 9th April 2022
- Halved promotion requirements of Waste Manager job. (Brian + Revo)

Don't forget, many people had hit L10 even before those updates were introduced ^

I think the main thing you're missing is that progress used to be different before the job got changed. You used to get 5% capacity per bag, making a single bag worth 5 items, which made progress go faster despite having to find blips and having to unload once you hit 100% capacity. I remember being able to get around 1000 per hour in the old job, so progression was around 4 times faster.



The requirements you suggested are fine imo, so I'm voting positive. You could also just make a bag worth 5 items again, or maybe 4 to make up for the fact that the job did get easier, if you don't want people to get L10 for free.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Drago. on 24 05, 2023, 09:13:10 am
I did some testing as well, managed to get 240 in an hour. 40000/240=167 hours, which is too long compared to other jobs.
I agree with this calculation, tested it myself, around that number in an hour.

But I still think the proposed requirements are quite low as it will be too easy to hit L10 and the job would lose its value over time, it's better to make it as it was before the update or decrease the requirements by at most 40% which is against the proposed ~62% decrease.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Coke on 24 05, 2023, 09:24:12 am
I think there have been significant changes in the way this waste manager works, but there will certainly be changes in the levels as well. I can say that this will definitely bring a balance to the levels in every job as long as the salary is not altered.  :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Snow-Man on 24 05, 2023, 11:43:15 am
Making the job easier will be boring and no one will have fun by doing it, I prefer to keep it how it is or just reduce requirements just a little bit not like you mentioned
 Negative  :cros:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: WooZy on 24 05, 2023, 11:45:10 am
Making the job easier will be boring and no one will have fun by doing it, I prefer to keep it how it is or just reduce requirements just a little bit not like you mentioned
 Negative  :cros:
Sorry but does it sound fun enough to you to go to 20k houses around the game and take the rubbish from them? Even in co-op mode you get 1 item per bag
Please redo your calculations
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: BRabbit on 24 05, 2023, 12:37:58 pm
I'll cast my vote in favor of this. I work to be a waste manager, but it takes me three days to level up from L3 to L4 without being bored. So this will be helpful to everyone  :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: iMazen on 24 05, 2023, 07:16:51 pm
It will achieve a balance in the levels of each job :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Smart on 25 05, 2023, 05:33:58 am
Well this job got nerfed by reqs to many times. And the nerf you are asking for is too low…like you have no patience? You don’t want to grind? You legit want to start leveling a job and in a week kaboom you are level 10? This is sad. I know the job changed recently so the reqs that are now make it harder to level up. Just nerf it by half or to 25k for L10 don’t nerf it so much lol.

This job used to be one of the hardest to level up and by those nerfs yall requesting every year it’s slowly losing it’s touch and how it used to be.

I’m negative  :cros: for now. My vote might change if you increase it a little bit above 20…
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: WooZy on 25 05, 2023, 09:11:51 am
Well this job got nerfed by reqs to many times. And the nerf you are asking for is too low…like you have no patience? You don’t want to grind? You legit want to start leveling a job and in a week kaboom you are level 10? This is sad. I know the job changed recently so the reqs that are now make it harder to level up. Just nerf it by half or to 25k for L10 don’t nerf it so much lol.

This job used to be one of the hardest to level up and by those nerfs yall requesting every year it’s slowly losing it’s touch and how it used to be.

I’m negative  :cros: for now. My vote might change if you increase it a little bit above 20…
25k are too much, even for a grinders, that's why this job got no players, why would I play a job that sounds impossible to grind on, even after the nerf you talking about it's still 12.5k bags to collect, it even may be 25k if you're doing it as co-op, sorry smart but you did this job 10 before these changes had been made, you don't know the job got worse at progress, as isdej and drago already stated that you only can get 240 items per hour, it is not easy at all, not rven close, 14.5k are still alot, all the houses around the game cant be more than 2k houses so even if you went around all cities in game you actually did not level up in it, that's not fun to grind in at all
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Culph on 25 05, 2023, 05:00:23 pm
You reduced it a lot if it’s reduced a little bit then  :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Sirat on 27 05, 2023, 03:28:41 am
Agreed currently I am playing as civilian mostly and just see this insane requirement of this boring job and that does not even pay well.  I am :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Conroy on 27 05, 2023, 11:57:08 am
Progressing in the waste manager job currently is kind of boring compared to the payment that can be obtained from it. It would be good if the requirements for progressing to the higher level were reduced. Positive.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Infernogates on 28 05, 2023, 05:31:27 pm
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Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Rahul on 28 05, 2023, 05:31:31 pm
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Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: SparctiC on 28 05, 2023, 05:44:29 pm
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Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Akashi on 28 05, 2023, 05:55:21 pm
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Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Aurelius.- on 29 05, 2023, 12:47:43 am
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Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: BuGsBunny on 30 05, 2023, 01:21:50 am
just not being no patience at all but those requirements are really high and need to decrease.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: TwCafe on 30 05, 2023, 06:10:13 am
18 vs 4. Next review will be done next week.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Kingslayer on 30 05, 2023, 08:40:44 am
I'll cast my vote in favor of this. I work to be a waste manager, but it takes me three days to level up from L3 to L4 without being bored. So this will be helpful to everyone  :tick: :tick:

^^  :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: ValHalla on 05 06, 2023, 08:09:44 pm
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Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: TwCafe on 07 06, 2023, 03:59:35 pm
20 vs 4. Marked as LP.
Title: Re: [+] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Prixor on 10 06, 2023, 04:01:14 pm
 Positive   :tick:

I played waste manager couple of times and I definitely agree that Job progress is slow , so this is a great idea.
Title: Re: [+] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: TwCafe on 14 06, 2023, 06:44:21 pm
22 vs 4. Still LP.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: |Lucky on 19 06, 2023, 03:23:04 pm
I totally agree with this suggestion waste manager job is pain and takes for ever to level up to L10 and as said "Isdej" here
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I did some testing as well, managed to get 240 in an hour. 40000/240=167 hours, which is too long compared to other jobs.


 And your new requirements seems fair . Im Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Thug on 20 06, 2023, 05:29:46 am
Well explained, I'll be positive for that since It's not really playable job nowadays and decreasing the level requirements will motivate the civilians to try that one,.  :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: TORRES on 22 06, 2023, 06:42:49 pm
For sure a positive change, the amount of hours to get lvl 10 is insane and unbalanced compared to other jobs, all for a mediocre payment, lvl 5 playing for 30min I got 92k networth on my earn limit.
 :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: TwCafe on 22 06, 2023, 07:09:25 pm
25 vs 4. Marked as MP.
Title: Re: Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Ace on 22 06, 2023, 07:25:41 pm
I disagree I think current system is fine no need for unnecessary changes

Please justify this answer. Will all due respect I don't think this topic is at all in your wheelhouse as a lawside player and due to the fact you haven't justified your answer with any statisics I will assume this is not your area of expertise.

requirements currently are completely absurd and not at all in line with other jobs. If you worked this job for an hour a day monday to friday it would take almost a year to get it level 10? how is that justified?

anyway ofc I am positive this is a long time needed.  :tick: :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Zombo on 22 06, 2023, 07:30:58 pm
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Title: Re: [++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: SPEEDY on 22 06, 2023, 10:26:57 pm
Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: ValHalla on 23 06, 2023, 07:53:07 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: InFocus on 25 06, 2023, 07:45:03 am
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Title: Re: [++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Wood on 27 06, 2023, 02:53:44 pm
current level up system is very very slow you cant get over 240 item per 1h in avg which is insanly low you need like 166h to get L10 so lower the progres is good balance to the job and civilian side :tick: upvote
Title: Re: [++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: TwCafe on 30 06, 2023, 06:18:16 pm
31 vs 4. Marked as HP.
Title: Re: [+++] Decreasing Leveling Requirements for Waste Manager job
Post by: Danzy on 09 07, 2023, 11:27:29 am
- Reduced requirements to level up for 'Waste Manager'. (Danzy + WooZy)