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Title: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Ptole on 05 04, 2022, 10:40:26 pm
So recently, some players tend to intentionally annoy others by spawning huge planes in gang wars. I believe this can be stopped by simply blocking players from recovering them outside airports.

Which planes would I restrict? Just the AT-400 and Andromada, they're too big to recover in the center of LS/LV.
I suppose this restriction should only apply when you're in LS or LV, this is where gang wars take place, and where people tend to do it the most.

Examples of how annoying this can be:
(https://i.imgur.com/V115qZK.png)(https://i.imgur.com/j2E4yxZ.png)(https://i.imgur.com/GxtTQnT.png)(https://i.imgur.com/fODuLAU.png)

I'm wondering what the community thinks of this idea, and if you find this bad, what else can we do to stop them?
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Nobody_ on 05 04, 2022, 10:43:00 pm
It's definitely a very important addition to the game, because how would you be able to start flying from that point? Others like Shamal, rustler, hydra, etc, I believe they can do it, but these ones???  :thonk:   :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: W1TTY on 05 04, 2022, 10:47:11 pm


It would be an excessive hassle for players that just want to drive airplanes when they're off-road or in the desert or any unoccupied areas to spawn their planes and recover them.

It should go with one of the following, Though:

Option 1: everything is kept as it is, and you just need to report players that use this disruptive behaviour.
Option 2: since it happens mostly in gang wars, you can just simply restrict the plane spawns in hot-zones that gang wars frequently occur at. Or at least restrict the gangster job from spawning airplanes in LS except in LS airport (only for gangsters)

 :tick:
Since it was cleared out. I vote positive for the restriction of the AT-400 and Andromada from being spawned in LS and LV except for airports.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Ptole on 05 04, 2022, 10:49:52 pm
Quote from: W1TTY on 05 04, 2022, 10:47:11 pm
It would be an excessive hassle for players that just want to drive airplanes when they're off-road or in the desert or any unoccupied areas to spawn their planes and recover them.
Perhaps the developers could make it so this restriction can only happen in LS or LV (where gang wars take place). So then you can still do your thing in unoccupied areas, I doubt anyone will start flying an AT-400 or Andromada from a regular street.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: W1TTY on 05 04, 2022, 10:51:33 pm
Quote from: Ptole on 05 04, 2022, 10:49:52 pm
Perhaps the developers could make it so this restriction can only happen in LS or LV (where gang wars take place). So then you can still do your thing in unoccupied areas, I doubt anyone will start flying an AT-400 or Andromada from a regular street.
If that restriction is exclusively for those 2 planes, then yes I vote positive. but if the devs decide to go for all planes, then nope.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Ptole on 05 04, 2022, 10:52:55 pm
Quote from: W1TTY on 05 04, 2022, 10:51:33 pm
If that restriction is exclusively for those 2 planes, then yes I vote positive. but if the devs decide to go for all planes, then nope.

That was the idea yes. I specifically wrote "huge planes", but let me add it to my main post just to make it clear.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Vampire on 05 04, 2022, 10:56:59 pm
This should definitely be added. There's no reason to spawn big planes in places where you can't even fly (as Nobody_ said) and the images shown above are examples of disruption.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: HomoS on 06 04, 2022, 03:45:57 am
I did saw plane like that before near BR, anyway like what u did said above no reason to recover planes in this routes, and its really very annoying, am giving you my positive vote :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: MEGO on 06 04, 2022, 03:53:42 am
Recovering Huge planes in the middle of a war, In LV or even LS is one of the most annoying, Trollish things that can ever happen to anyone, I'm upvoting this suggestion since a lot of players gets annoyed of this.  :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Atheer on 06 04, 2022, 11:12:19 am
You already can't fly a huge plane in such places lol, so you can spawn them in the airport only, and it's truly better. And, could reduce the trolling ratio.

Positive.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Darwin97 on 06 04, 2022, 11:35:21 am
Positive

All they do is be annoying with such planes trying to spawn them so they explode and remove players from certain places. Also, I have faced so much inconvenience while turfing because of FPS drops those planes cause.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Skyscrap on 06 04, 2022, 01:47:56 pm
Restricting the AT-400 and Andromada from respawning while in LS is the best decision in my opinion to solve this issue, since they are huge enough to be spawned in LS streets and as we see in the screenshots if they took place in any street they will block it immediately.

Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Uzaki on 06 04, 2022, 03:05:55 pm
First and for most, anyone that would vote negative to this and say something like "What if they need to do that.. or they have to for their job.. etc etc" you're clearly a complete imbecile if you say that, cause no way an AT-400 or Andromada would easily be flown or would take off in the center of Each city - SF, LS and LV. Even at airports those airplanes still have a hard time taking off.

Vote  :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Gio. on 06 04, 2022, 03:06:33 pm
 :tick:
First of all no one can fly with that big plane in such narrow place and most people are only using it as a block or trolling so this can prevent players from trolling
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Egekan on 06 04, 2022, 03:36:05 pm
Yes why punish people instead of preventing them from recovering these aircrafts in the middle of LS? It is even better to prevent these planes from being recovered if the player is not a pilot imo.

 :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: SqueX on 06 04, 2022, 05:34:11 pm
yes, there are many players who have been punished recently for spawning Andromada / AT400. I support this suggestion  :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Stolenn on 06 04, 2022, 10:20:23 pm
The purpose of using the mentioned planes outside the airport is usually block.Especially in gang wars.If you are not one of the blockers,you should support this,positive.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: T0Y-B0Y on 06 04, 2022, 11:04:32 pm
adding this won't harm anyone but it will help gangsters to have fair fights and this will stop drama on Complains board so I am going positive :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: BirdBoy on 08 04, 2022, 05:33:46 pm
Quote from: Egekan on 06 04, 2022, 03:36:05 pm
Yes why punish people instead of preventing them from recovering these aircrafts in the middle of LS? It is even better to prevent these planes from being recovered if the player is not a pilot imo.

 :tick:
:tick:
Yes, support from me also, but I wanna ask, why cannot the staff team just make an update, but making a suggestion here? just ask
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: zurq on 08 04, 2022, 05:46:46 pm
But for example I want to recover my "huge plane" (idk the name of it tbh), and to fly far away. What should I do? I go straight to the airport while I don't even have another vehicle rather than that big plane? Won't it be a waste of labor/time?

Okay, I'll walk in line with you. The restriction will be in the entire LS/LV?
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Egekan on 08 04, 2022, 05:51:23 pm
Quote from: zurq on 08 04, 2022, 05:46:46 pm
But for example I want to recover my "huge plane" (idk the name of it tbh), and to fly far away. What should I do? I go straight to the airport while I don't even have another vehicle rather than that big plane? Won't it be a waste of labor/time?
Post a single video of a non-pilot person using AT-400/Andromada for transportation please
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: MEGO on 08 04, 2022, 05:55:23 pm
Quote from: zurq on 08 04, 2022, 05:46:46 pm
But for example I want to recover my "huge plane" (idk the name of it tbh), and to fly far away. What should I do? I go straight to the airport while I don't even have another vehicle rather than that big plane? Won't it be a waste of labor/time?

Okay, I'll walk in line with you. The restriction will be in the entire LS/LV?
I guess yes it should be in LS/LV only to avoid trolling in wars etc, This suggestion is pretty nice because there's a lot of players who abusing this feature and spawning huge planes in the middle of wars, So maybe if you wanna recover a huge plan you can directly head to airport.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: zurq on 08 04, 2022, 10:21:51 pm
Quote from: Egekan on 08 04, 2022, 05:51:23 pm
Post a single video of a non-pilot person using AT-400/Andromada for transportation please

I won't waste my time searching for people recovering their AT-400 and recording them.

But when I just entered CIT, I really love to transport with the huge planes. They are realistic though. There is a lot of people who loves driving those huge planes. I guess, you better suggest removing them from the store and adding them for the job pilot only? This'd be better for everyone. In your point of view, I I extracted that there is no need for those huge planes only while using the pilot job, right? Then, what about getting rid of it by suggesting a suggestion that talks about removing the huge planes for everyone except for the pilot job? So we won't have any kind of neuralgia, and everyone will understand that there is no huge planes for sale. Or people will just keep buying them and in the end, they'll illustrate that they are literally shit and will sell them, so they'll lose some money. I am against this suggestion.

Quote from: MEGO on 08 04, 2022, 05:55:23 pm
I guess yes it should be in LS/LV only to avoid trolling in wars etc, This suggestion is pretty nice because there's a lot of players who abusing this feature and spawning huge planes in the middle of wars, So maybe if you wanna recover a huge plan you can directly head to airport.

In my point of view, we should bound them in some places like in LV. (C-villa, whole LS hospitals, etc...)
Or in my outlook "once again", it should be completely removed, so only pilot job players can get it.
Imagine a newbie, comes and buy that plane. After some minutes he find out that the plane he bought can be recovered only in the airports. Which is precisely a stupid idea.

Thus, I've two solutions:
Restricting the VIP recovery of huge planes on some exact places like what they did to LV.
On second thought, the huge planes will be only for the pilot job.

But the idea you suggested is literally dumb. How I am a newbie and I buy that plane, then I discover that it can be recovered only in the aiport.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Mask on 09 04, 2022, 03:49:10 am
Many people misuse this plane to damage the experience of other players. This being a Disruptive behavior that would be breaking the rules, also used to break through big walls, this being ''abusing vip recovery'' another rule that most players break in LV. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: BuGsBunny on 09 04, 2022, 05:56:14 am
first why you gonna recover an AT-400 and andromada with narrow space? ofc to block others right. this is great suggestion instead of giving punishment for those who abusing this lets prevent it. I gonna give you my POSITIVE VOTE  :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Kingslayer on 09 04, 2022, 09:50:52 am
Its good idea, cause I saw some players punished spawning Andromada / AT400, avoding block  :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Han'Lue on 09 04, 2022, 01:36:14 pm
Voting Positive, I agree with you because these planes are really annoying and greatly hinders gang wars. Gang wars will be in a better state if these planes are blocked.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Ptole on 09 04, 2022, 03:56:57 pm
Quote from: zurq on 08 04, 2022, 10:21:51 pm
But the idea you suggested is literally dumb. How I am a newbie and I buy that plane, then I discover that it can be recovered only in the aiport.
I don't understand your logic. You can't even take off with an AT-400 or Andromada in LS or LV. Unless if you use it on a high/huge roof (because you need speed to take off), but then you need VIP first.

Imagine having VIP-hours but no vehicle to drive on the ground, that's just soooo random. Even newbies get a small vehicle like a faggio for free if I'm not wrong.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Shark. on 09 04, 2022, 04:05:44 pm
of course, we should solve this because trolls' are everywhere. They are always spawning huge planes in the recovery points. why so far this issue not been resolved? Absolutely positive.  :tick:
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Azazel on 09 04, 2022, 05:23:31 pm
This is can be solution to AT 400 trollers im totally agree with this discussion but I have better idea to who says "what if I need to spawn AT 400 and fly away."Just AP can be allowed area for spawn huge planes its suitable to spawn cuz there is not buildings in that area.
Positive
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: TwCafe on 12 04, 2022, 02:49:04 am
Quote
I'm wondering what the community thinks of this idea, and if you find this bad, what else can we do to stop them?
To prevent abusing, I'm supporting this idea. I find this the best way.
Title: Re: Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Dokt0R on 12 04, 2022, 02:51:10 am
22 P votes. This can be marked as a High Priority.
Title: Re: [Brian]Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: gq on 12 04, 2022, 10:57:00 pm
This Idea will stop the spawn abusing , positive .
Title: Re: [Arran]Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Brian on 14 05, 2022, 05:14:17 pm
So I just realised it's easier if Arran adds this to /recover script:
Code: Lua
  1. local bigPlanes = {[592]=1,[577]=1,[511]=1,[553]=1,[519]=1,}
  2. local airportFields = {
  3.         -- topLeftCornerX, topLeftCornerY, bottomRightCornerX, bottomRightCornerY, minZ
  4.         {1849.9268, -2177.2434, 2105.4604, -2645.4067, 12}, -- LS part 1
  5.         {1364.8882, -2405.4661, 1849.9268, -2645.4067, 12}, -- LS part 2
  6.         {-1755.4451, 110.7408, -1155.4495, -683.6896, 13}, -- SF
  7.         {-166.5637, 2555.2102, 433.8534, 2421.8647, 15}, -- Bone County
  8.         {1337.4885, 1863.3904, 1564.6772, 1702.9753, 10}, -- LV part 1
  9.         {1263.3662, 1697.2644, 1637.2993, 1143.6764, 10}, -- LV part 2 
  10. }
  11.  
  12. local x,y,z = getElementPosition(plr)
  13. local m = getElementModel(veh)
  14. if (bigPlanes[m]) then
  15.         local recoverInAirport = false
  16.         for i, pos in ipairs(airportFields) do
  17.                 if (x > pos[1] and x < pos[3] and y < pos[2] and y > pos[4] and z > pos[5] and z < (pos[5] + 10)) then
  18.                         recoverInAirport = true
  19.                         break
  20.                 end
  21.         end
  22.         if (not recoverInAirport) then
  23.                 exports.CIThelp:opc("You cannot recover a big plane in this area.", plr, 255, 0, 0)
  24.                 return false
  25.         end
  26. end
  27.  
  28.  

I made this code server-side as I guess it's the only way to get recovered element model
Title: Re: [Arran]Restricting the VIP-recovery of huge planes to the airport
Post by: Arran on 16 05, 2022, 05:54:42 pm
- Large planes can now only be recovered at airports. (Ptole + Brian)