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Title: [SalaR] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Omar on 12 05, 2020, 12:43:45 pm
The suggestion: Adding a red line border at the place where the Anti-rush system works at both criminal and law sides, something like the red line at DS
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Reason to implement this I have faced several times once the Anti-rush system gets activated. You will just loose HP by suddenly hitting it by mistake. Once you are fighting the opposite team you aren't really aware of it until you suddenly find out that your HP is decreasing it may even cause you to get killed. Adding this red line border will make it easier to identify exactly where the Anti-rush system activates and where to have a good position to hold.
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Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Pollux on 12 05, 2020, 12:47:51 pm
This has been bothering me so much when I enter CEs. You go to rush on cops and before you know it you're losing health and being teleported to random places. This would definitely make it helpful for both sides to know where the limits are instead of going too close thus loosing HP and getting warped. Very helpful, supporting.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: imGUNNER on 12 05, 2020, 01:31:52 pm
I actually died many times I  NC when I jump to rush i'll get stuck on air and keep losing health until I die cuz I cant run im in the air and its frustrating , puting a red line to know the limits is super helpful and can balance things inside CE , im positive.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: SaR on 12 05, 2020, 01:41:45 pm
Definitely we need something like that to avoid being hurt by anti-rush while fight with opposite site team. it's been bothering me to suggestion something about this invisible Anti-rush thing. so you suggested the right way as I want. so am  :tick: upvoting.


Why my vote Positive/Negative?

Bug in Night Club(NC).
as you can see in this screenshot. some player jump down to this side. and they get stuck in mid air bcz of Anti-rush and die. am sure everyone stuck here too.
Yellow arrow show where other side player jump down from here.
Green line show Invisible Anti-rush Box it's cuz player stuck in mid air when they jump down.
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Sorry for my bad english


EDIT BY UNITY: I've put the image inside a spoiler
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Shattah on 12 05, 2020, 02:22:10 pm
This is a very useful addition to the game. I sometimes have absolutely no idea of where the anti-rush line is and then I sometimes end up rushing a bit, losing health, and then when I try to fall back cops sometimes take advantage of this and end up killing me. So it would be helpful to know where the line is. Good suggestion.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Selina# on 12 05, 2020, 02:42:14 pm
That will be a good idea, most of newbies or players don't know where is the line of the anti-rush system, that'll let them just rush inside blindly and dead. I believe that this will be very helpful to all players who are playing in CE. It will also give an idea to defending team , so that they can set their positions according to it .
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Ryukatzu on 12 05, 2020, 02:52:01 pm
Yes! I can't tell you enough about the amount of time I have died due to me being clueless to where the anti-rush starts. It gets annoying when it constantly happens to you. This will serve as a guide for us to know where are limits are in the event till the anti-rush is disabled. Also, I think once the anti-rush is disabled the red line should removed, this will serve as an indicator for when the anti-rush is disabled.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Phobia on 12 05, 2020, 04:30:31 pm
A great idea , It will not only be helpful to the current players but it will also be very helpful to the new players attending CE's. The Anti-Rush area is often pretty confusing for the team who is rushing and results in quite a bit of HP loss. A small indicator marking the area of the anti-rush will be increasingly helpful to ease the confusing.

I also really like ryuk idea's above according to which the line should disappear once the anti-rush ends, While most experienced players are already aware of the timer, it would help the players who are not aware of it.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: DSA on 12 05, 2020, 05:24:37 pm
Someone suggested this before and they said: "those red lines are objects and will make more fps drop". Anyway, I Am supporting this idea because this anti-rush always damages me because I don't know where is it exactly because I am an LV player and I am not familiar with Criminal events so yeah this will be useful for many players who don't play in criminal events a lot.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Mr.Cool on 12 05, 2020, 06:19:43 pm
I agree with you because this was a huge issue for me and I mostly lose CEs or die fast because I don't know when the anti-rush system activates and when it ends. Sometimes when I rush I find out that my HP decreases when it was too late plus the damage of the bullets which is annoying. I will upvote for this suggestion.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: BlackBear on 12 05, 2020, 06:38:30 pm
hello, I don't know but I feel like it will be useless ?? maybe but anyway most people know where is the anti-rush area and if u didn't know u can just walk around and u will recognise it quickly, so I'm being natural.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Phoenix on 16 05, 2020, 08:46:19 pm
That's so annoying and one of the reasons criminals prefer Armed robberies than Criminal events because you could get simply killed just because you don't know if that's an anti-rush area and if adding a red line border using objects will cause fps drops then a warning message should be added where your Health start decreasing after 1 second from getting the warning message, I am not a new player and still, I know nothing about the anti-rush area (or how the system works). Upvoting
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: xaw on 16 05, 2020, 10:02:32 pm
I don't know why they didn't add this till now. Obviously, it will help many players who aren't experienced in criminal events to recognize where is the anti-rush so they don't go and damage themselves as you know if touched the anti-rush you will be damaged and if you did it may times you probably will die. I am not LS player but sometimes I go to LS with my friends there and many times I keep damaging myself with this anti-rush because I don't know where is it exactly so yeah I am supporting your idea.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Omar on 17 05, 2020, 01:34:46 pm
Quote from: BlackBear on 12 05, 2020, 06:38:30 pm
hello, I don't know but I feel like it will be useless ?? maybe but anyway most people know where is the anti-rush area and if u didn't know u can just walk around and u will recognise it quickly, so I'm being natural.
I guess you are wrong here, most people get hurt by the anti-rush area. the area isn't really fixed or noticeable so you can avoid hitting in it. Walk around ? so I should loose some health or get stuck until death so I can recognise it?
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: BlackBear on 17 05, 2020, 04:44:52 pm
Quote from: Omar on 17 05, 2020, 01:34:46 pm
I guess you are wrong here, most people get hurt by the anti-rush area. the area isn't really fixed or noticeable so you can avoid hitting in it. Walk around ? so I should loose some health or get stuck until death so I can recognise it?
I appreciate your reply but I have to take a conversation with u  :), the area is actually noticeable from other players as they stand near it so you just avoid what other people avoid, easy anyway if u just walked around like I said what will you lose? 15 from your health, huh, food healing will just cover this wound effortlessly but for getting stuck it's just a bug if u know this place in HO where you can just hop in the anti-rush area and getting stuck till u die.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Luke on 17 05, 2020, 06:08:36 pm
Up-voting this idea, because sometimes when you jump around, you get caught in the abyss of anti-rush, you couldn't get out -- you are pushed back, and forth hence you die. And since most newbies play either a cop or a criminal in their first hours, they attend CE's right away because their friends or the support chat told them that it's profitable, this will be helpful for newbies, it'll be a guide for them, an area which they should avoid in the first 5 minutes.

If any admin is going to read this;
Fix NC, when you spawn at the roof, and jump down at their spawn, you get caught and there is no way out, you are just in the air, and can't get out.
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Nems on 17 05, 2020, 07:11:56 pm
Seems like a good idea that won't harm anyone. to be honest as I can see too many players keep rushing in CEs and losing health without notice this especially goes  for those peoples who got no experience in CEs so adding a red line border would be helpful for everyone. totally upvoting
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Stun on 17 05, 2020, 11:28:36 pm
great idea and useful because most of time players get stuck in CEs because of this and red line will help and players will be more careful not just jumping to get kill and when he  anti rush area he will get dmg and he could be easy kill to get so I am with you and this suggest is cool and helpful so I will give you my vote Positive good luck  :tick: .
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: bleeduntildead on 18 05, 2020, 10:34:57 am
I see no harm in implementing this idea. Right now it's not easy to differentiate between the anti-rush area and the "normal" area. While the anti rush area doesn't take a big chunk of your HP, it certainly can be the difference between dead and alive if a person is unlucky.

Also, new players can find it hard to understand why is this thing randomly taking a part of their HP, in my opinion this change will help them a lot (you see a red line - you know it may not be the smartest idea to cross it).

I am voting positive on this suggestion, good luck!
Title: Re: Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Unity on 19 05, 2020, 01:17:40 pm
After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 15 positive votes.
- 0 negative votes.
- 1 neutral votes.

Marked as medium priority.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Goku on 19 05, 2020, 02:27:55 pm
Honestly, I would suggest reducing the anti-rush time-period more than suggesting the addition of such a line to distinguish between the area where the anti-rush is and where it isn't. The time-period is just too long. I am fully in favor of the addition of this border line to help prevent people from taking unnecessary and totally undeserved damage, but even more than and along with that, I propose reducing the timer to something which seems more realistic and proves to be an ideal time-period for either of the sides to wait out.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: iCrazyCat on 19 05, 2020, 05:32:26 pm
Most experienced know where the anti-rush takes place (Meat Factory (MFR) etc.) but even those players can get distracted and rush into the anti-rush so I don't see why this should not be added .
  So I am voting Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Mike46 on 19 05, 2020, 07:50:27 pm
We completely need this in the CE events. I have encountered this problem several times and oh boy how annoying it is. Every player from each side is focused on solely killing the other and that automatically means they'll forget about that boundary which will decrease their HP, so imagine if a noob enters the CE and doesn't even recognize what the hell is going on everytime he passes the boundary.

So a red line would be a great indicator to give everyone a fair CE. I don't see the harm. Upvoting  :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Prolycan on 21 05, 2020, 06:33:29 am
I don't think noone gives negative vote on this suggestion since it's very useful and not inconvenient. To be honest, I died many times while I was trying to rush alone to kill who has a bit of health. This suggestion will help who has ever been experienced being died from Anti-Rush system. Upvoting without any doubt.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Dragon on 21 05, 2020, 09:29:31 am
Well let me be honest, I sometimes face this problem in CEs, especially in NC, whenever I try to move to the other side to kill the criminals/cops, I lose health due to anti rush which is really annoying me whenever I play in a CE, This may happen in another CEs but the one in my head is NC because there're no barriers at the bottom entrace. Thus, upvoting this one.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Ou$$aMa on 21 05, 2020, 10:36:24 pm
I got kill mini times because of the anti rush zone I feel like that one who made it random sometime if you jump into anti rush you get trapped and you die just because you didnt know where is anti rush area you can check the anti rush in cas ce you will find that its random . positive
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: TroubleShot on 27 05, 2020, 03:51:09 pm
Anti-System bugs like getting stucked in the air has been bothering with my gameplay in CE's mostly when you're gonna jump to the cop's side for example in NC Criminal Event you'll be stuck in the air and keep losing health like there's no literally way out, its frustrating mostly when you have High WL and die without fighting a cop, im voting POSITIVE for this one.  :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Gee on 02 06, 2020, 11:14:36 pm
Essentially, we are in need such addition so the players would be aware of it and be cautious, I believe that every regular Criminal Event player has experienced this before, and it must be annoying because it causes heavy damage in which results in a death in most of the cases. I'm positive.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: AquaMoris on 03 06, 2020, 02:28:19 am
I think it is a great idea. If we add that red line thing, it'd show us the anti-rush systems place, and we'd differentiate it easily. Also, In my opinion, this suggestion is not harmful for cops and crims at CEs. Rather, this suggestion is helpful for both sides at CEs. So, I'm Positive about this suggestion.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: RonParu on 03 06, 2020, 04:38:15 am
I will be AGREE in this idea. Based on my personal experience, while I was in CE and we're in the middle of rushing, i'm telling to others go go rush and then suddenly I lost HP and re-warp back because of the anti-rush. Having no border or sign of the anti-rush area can affect others especially when they're newbie or not familiar on where's the border of the anti-rush.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Stone on 03 06, 2020, 06:28:37 am
Well a pretty great idea. This will be a better and improvement of CE's also no one will harm with this suggestion. With this cops or either criminals can know where they should stay and know their limit. This would be helpful for both crims and cops. Mark my reply as Positive.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: xFrelshyLee on 03 06, 2020, 10:23:56 am
Very good suggestion, actually. Being able to know your limit, is pretty good. Yesterday it happened to me, and I kept going to different places not to loose health or get teleported.. yet, it still did this to me. I was trying to find the end but seemed like on my left side the distance from cops was bigger, compared to my right side (while looking at the cops), which made me think that maybe it's not just a line, but more like it's random placed.
  Anyways, I'm Positive.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: christos78 on 06 06, 2020, 01:46:02 am
By no means is it useless, since many new players or players returning to the server since when the anti rush system was not implemented (including myself in the second category back in March) , are getting confused until they realise the notification that there is an anti rush system that's holding them back. This line would make it easier for those people to understand how the system works. Positive.
Title: Re: [++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: HosttyBoy on 11 06, 2020, 05:59:16 pm
Marked as High priority.
Title: Re: [+++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Arran on 12 06, 2020, 05:09:03 pm
Anyone with map edit access can do this.
Title: Re: [+++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Unity on 12 06, 2020, 06:15:11 pm
@SalaR you are the only Map Editor, would you mind giving your opinion on this? Thanks in advance
Title: Re: [+++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: SalaR on 13 06, 2020, 06:33:31 am
I can do this but it might take some time as there's no way I can know the exact limit of anti-rush without testing and attending CEs several times.
Title: Re: [+++] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: Unity on 13 06, 2020, 07:39:24 pm
I will mark it as WIP. If there is anything I can help, PM me
Title: Re: [SalaR] Adding a red line border for Anti-rush system at criminal events.
Post by: SalaR on 03 07, 2020, 04:47:49 pm
I have already finished this one a few days ago. If you find any bugs or missing lines, report it in QA board.