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Title: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Metall on 05 07, 2023, 09:39:18 am
This 'bugfix' was added a few months ago,

- Fixed fisherman and waste manager job progress being twice as fast as should be. (Arran + Nuko)
- Fixed farmer job progress being twice as fast as it should be. (Arran + CoPe)

Basically those jobs had the same job progress advancement since they got added (many years ago). Now that this was 'fixed' it made leveling those jobs take twice as long as before. I believe this is also unfair because it made getting into the top 50 civilians on forums also take twice as long as before.. When a job has had the same job progressing since it got added I don't get why they should be 'fixed' years later. Also this new update to fisherman made river fisherman way more faster for leveling than the regular fisherman, and since river fisherman is a side job...

What I want to be done is;
Make Fisherman give twice as much XP (like it was before)
Make Farmer job give twice as much XP (200 bails instead of current 100)

I do not want to involve Waste Manager since it has already been suggested by WooZy to fix the waste manager progress;
https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=392514.0 (https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=392514.0)
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: InFocus on 05 07, 2023, 10:21:32 am
This is a good suggestion because nerfing it recently made it unfair against those who played the job years ago and old progressing was fine  :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: |Lucky on 05 07, 2023, 04:48:40 pm
yes for real farmer take ages to level up not sure about fisherman but I tried it once and it was so bad....
I'm positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Raffaell on 05 07, 2023, 04:59:44 pm
I'm agree with fisherman job coz its one of the longest, in case of time spent, job and it requires from a player to forget about real life to reach max level. If u r talking about farmer, its a bit easier, and doesnt take so much effort as fisherman job, but anyway idk, im max level already. So I guess im positive with this :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: gq on 05 07, 2023, 10:31:51 pm
Great idea because you have to be CIT addicted to level up in the fisherman job also some other jobs, maybe this idea gonna be the solution,im going Positive.
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: $Carl$ on 06 07, 2023, 12:51:00 pm
Up √   :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Culph on 06 07, 2023, 01:21:57 pm
the old system was way better and bringing it back would be great.  :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Ace on 06 07, 2023, 09:24:11 pm
seems like a good idea to me  :tick: :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: ValHalla on 07 07, 2023, 05:36:37 am
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Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: LightBarrie on 08 07, 2023, 09:10:45 am
Good idea. Positive.
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Lewandowska on 11 07, 2023, 11:25:21 am
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Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Wood on 12 07, 2023, 03:39:33 am
  :poggers: as some one who spend over a year and half to get L10 farmer in the old days I surely dont wish they waste huge amount of time on AFK jobs since its mostly afk-waiting so reduce the progres will make it more appealing for players to hit the levels and use them as it should be  :love:

upvote  :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: TwCafe on 13 07, 2023, 02:56:42 pm
11 positive votes. Next review will be done next week.
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: anomalous angel on 15 07, 2023, 12:50:47 am
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Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Ndh on 15 07, 2023, 01:32:41 am
UP UP  :tick:
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: MaRian on 15 07, 2023, 06:13:15 am
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Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Pancake on 20 07, 2023, 03:05:19 am
Farmer and fisherman are my best citizens jobs for me and I see the progress to reach L10 are very difficult just like ever job is but the thing is the style of working are harder than other jobs like iron miner are much easier or taxi driver so I guess this suggestion should do the trick and improve both jobs. Postive
Title: Re: Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: TwCafe on 20 07, 2023, 03:21:13 am
15 positive votes. Marked as LP.
Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Taeko. on 20 07, 2023, 11:27:58 am
They both are amazing and unique jobs, and I see no reason why are they so hard to level up. Making the job progress a bit easier would be great, this could attract more players to both jobs. :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Denos on 20 07, 2023, 07:51:56 pm
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Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Abdelrhman. on 21 07, 2023, 07:00:42 am
I feel like it's so slow to gain xp to level up atm  :tick: 
Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Meliodas#USSF on 23 07, 2023, 11:56:41 pm
I'm positive  :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Cime on 25 07, 2023, 08:33:01 pm
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Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: farm on 26 07, 2023, 03:54:25 pm
Can anyone confirm whether or not the progress was previously doubled for a long time? My understanding is that the progress was only briefly doubled due to a bug, not that they were always 2x as fast as they are now. I know for farmer in particular I remember 1 full harvest of 100 seeds always yielding 100 crops harvested in progress until a brief moment where it was doubled and then fixed.
Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: TwCafe on 27 07, 2023, 08:01:31 am
20 positive votes. Marked as MP.
Title: Re: [++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: SCHOOLING SIR on 27 07, 2023, 08:07:14 am
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Title: Re: [+] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Metall on 27 07, 2023, 02:05:20 pm
Can anyone confirm whether or not the progress was previously doubled for a long time? My understanding is that the progress was only briefly doubled due to a bug, not that they were always 2x as fast as they are now. I know for farmer in particular I remember 1 full harvest of 100 seeds always yielding 100 crops harvested in progress until a brief moment where it was doubled and then fixed.

I'd also like to know this, I believe that farmer always gave 200 bails in the past but I might be wrong? If that is the case then I will consider modifying my suggestion.
Title: Re: [++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: HosttyBoy on 27 07, 2023, 02:22:51 pm
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Title: Re: [++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Mindpeek on 31 07, 2023, 04:29:35 am
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Title: Re: [++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: TwCafe on 31 07, 2023, 05:03:16 pm
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Added a spoiler so it's less annoying.
Title: Re: [++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: TwCafe on 03 08, 2023, 05:03:49 pm
 :tick:

25 positive votes. Marked as HP now.
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: MrBin10 on 08 08, 2023, 06:02:54 am
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: TwCafe on 08 08, 2023, 01:47:24 pm
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@MrBin10 Why do you vote twice?
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: PatrickBiceps on 08 08, 2023, 07:48:18 pm
Well, I don't know how many players would use this jobs because civilian side it's kinda dead, but why not? Maybe few players will be motivated for being L10 at all jobs.  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: InVadeR on 08 08, 2023, 08:54:00 pm
 a buff to make the job more enjoyable that's nice :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: WISKy on 09 08, 2023, 11:17:55 am
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: ReDoXx on 10 08, 2023, 10:29:33 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Boles on 10 08, 2023, 10:45:32 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Knife on 11 08, 2023, 08:36:43 am
This seems to be a good idea I vote  :tick: for this great idea
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Earl. on 16 08, 2023, 05:38:34 am
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Sawos on 16 08, 2023, 11:53:15 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Remixd on 17 08, 2023, 12:24:04 pm
 :tick: :tick: Definitely needed, every single farm and seaside are completely dead as those jobs takes ages to level up while giving you pretty bad earnings.
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: M4hdi on 17 08, 2023, 02:43:34 pm
Yep We Need To Fix It
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: tobey on 17 08, 2023, 03:13:53 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: hyperlink on 17 08, 2023, 05:48:44 pm
Yes.  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Natrig on 17 08, 2023, 11:45:03 pm
I vote positive because good idea  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Elysia on 18 08, 2023, 07:28:41 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: denn on 22 08, 2023, 03:09:03 am
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: LenoXFTW on 27 08, 2023, 10:00:33 pm
the previous system was already like this, and as far as I'm concerned, yes, it should be reinstated. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Xelso on 28 08, 2023, 04:03:00 pm
Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Fluffy~. on 28 08, 2023, 09:03:45 pm
yeah for real, old system was good tho. and it takes ages!! to rank up

i believe it wont hurt anyone




positive
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: NoobStar on 30 08, 2023, 03:11:10 pm
The adjustments to the Fisherman, Waste Manager, and Farmer jobs have changed player progression and gameplay dynamics. The alterations appear to have increased the amount of time needed to level up in these vocations, which has led to inequities in the game's advancement for individual players as well as other factors.

The players' capacity to participate actively in the "top 50 civilians" rating, has unintentionally been hampered by these modifications as well. Changes to advancement rates have hindered players' progress toward their goals, which has a negative influence on their capacity to make significant contributions to the community.

Thus, I am upvoting  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: StarKid on 02 09, 2023, 08:11:27 pm
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I don't see why progress needs to be harder than it already is in a server which hype has passed. I really think progress should be more satisfactory especially for new players in general.
I'm upvoting not for me, but in order for the server to survive more years to come!
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: LenoXFTW on 03 09, 2023, 11:49:29 am
Great Idea  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Monster on 03 09, 2023, 04:48:08 pm
 That's totally fair.
 Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: abdall2 on 03 09, 2023, 11:38:13 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Shit on 07 09, 2023, 06:22:10 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: A7Z on 07 09, 2023, 11:18:20 pm
Yeah it will be good if it was like before, :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Dazzler. on 08 09, 2023, 02:33:09 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Snow. on 09 09, 2023, 05:59:59 pm
I'm positive  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Gio on 14 09, 2023, 02:31:04 pm
Everyone in this server knows that Farmer and Fisherman jobs are abandoned and that's for various reasons. But I truly believe that the main reason they're abandoned is for their progress, it takes a lot of time and effort to level up in these jobs so it would be great to make it a bit faster, the adjustments suggested above by Metall are more than fair in my opinion and they wouldn't harm anyone.

 I'm positive...  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Counter on 14 09, 2023, 09:12:18 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Samy on 15 09, 2023, 12:54:57 pm
 :cros:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Aymen on 17 09, 2023, 12:10:33 am
Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: RoMaNa on 17 09, 2023, 02:12:34 am
Yes please :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Terry on 18 09, 2023, 08:03:49 am
I one hundred percent agree with Metall the current farmer job it's so so bad imagine doing all that for only one hundred bails when you got to make a loot of lines of seeds + collecting the time that you waste dosen't even deserve the XP you working for that's why after the last update of the Farmer job everyone left this job and now it's a super dead job like lot of other jobs so I totally agree with this suggestion  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: el seniorito on 18 09, 2023, 12:38:20 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: Reign on 18 09, 2023, 03:46:36 pm
Yeah good idea. The jobs are pretty hard and it takes a long time. Both of these jobs play pretty rarley, so this would help.  :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: -PiQue'3- on 19 09, 2023, 09:28:15 pm
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Title: Re: [+++] Fix Farmer and Fisherman job progress
Post by: SoloBlade on 20 09, 2023, 03:02:05 pm
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Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Nuko on 26 09, 2023, 10:05:01 pm
Updated title because Fisherman is more than fine and shouldn't be improved.
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Uzaki on 01 10, 2023, 06:14:42 am
As a fulltime civilian and most especially farming as my beloved things to do in the server, I can say the recent update was truly unfair and bs, and I abhor it. As everyone agree and the constructor of this suggestion explained, the current farming method takes absurd amount of work to progress and to earn, THAT ALSO INFLICTS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO WISHES TO WRITE OUR NAMES IN THE SERVER HISTORY, NOT JUST IN FARMING BUT PRETTY MUCH ON MAJORITY OF ALL THE JOBS AS CIVILIAN. Imagine planting, harvesting and then walking to pickup the bales by WALKING(for non-vips) 3-4
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Meaning you have to go around the field 3-4 times when you plant, 3-4 on the harvesting and 3-4 for picking up bales. Total of around 12 rounds in the field to finish 1 harvest not including the waiting time after planting
times EACH every 100 seeds and to only get like what? 200-300(I don't have the accurate number). And somehow some way, developers thought it was OP and overpaid? While crims, gangster earns money by "Turfing" then doing nothing most of the time cause they can simply agree with the opposing faction not to engage with each other :fp:  :fp:

So, I agree to suggestion and to the idea of bringing back the old farming method atleast as a gift to us civilians who has the most boring occupation on the server.  :tick:  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: iFighTeR7 on 02 10, 2023, 04:32:43 am
I agree with you this job progress better for leveling  up :tick:
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: farm on 11 10, 2023, 03:44:19 am
 :cros:

No one has confirmed that the farmer progress was 200 crops harvested in progress for every 100 bails collected for a long time. I was always under the impression that it was only 200 for a brief moment and then later fixed back to 100. I think 200 is too much considering you can reliably get 100 progress every 7 minutes. this means 70,000/100= 700 cycles of harvesting. 700 cycles at 7 minutes each is 4900 minutes which comes out to 81.66 hours to get L10. This is not outrageous in comparison to other jobs and many people had to endure the long journey to 70k bails already.
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Uzaki on 11 10, 2023, 08:07:07 am
:cros:

No one has confirmed that the farmer progress was 200 crops harvested in progress for every 100 bails collected for a long time. I was always under the impression that it was only 200 for a brief moment and then later fixed back to 100. I think 200 is too much considering you can reliably get 100 progress every 7 minutes. this means 70,000/100= 700 cycles of harvesting. 700 cycles at 7 minutes each is 4900 minutes which comes out to 81.66 hours to get L10. This is not outrageous in comparison to other jobs and many people had to endure the long journey to 70k bails already.

The idea is nice but his suggested implemention as my friend here, Farm, explains. 200 bails with the same amount of progress per bail is somewhat tail over the rainbow. And another issue is, if you can refer to the current farming system (100 seeds per rotation), it would already require you alittle to or half of the field (longest fields SF sea farm and Blueberry farm) how much more if you use Flintstone farm. The current system already makes you plant back and forth 4x, harvest back and forth 4x, and walk (Fly if VIP) to pickup the bails 4x Back and forth around the field. As long as the gap per plant is not reduced, I dont think making the seeds to 200 would be much viable than we think.
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Metall on 11 10, 2023, 04:11:22 pm
The idea is nice but his suggested implemention as my friend here, Farm, explains. 200 bails with the same amount of progress per bail is somewhat tail over the rainbow. And another issue is, if you can refer to the current farming system (100 seeds per rotation), it would already require you alittle to or half of the field (longest fields SF sea farm and Blueberry farm) how much more if you use Flintstone farm. The current system already makes you plant back and forth 4x, harvest back and forth 4x, and walk (Fly if VIP) to pickup the bails 4x Back and forth around the field. As long as the gap per plant is not reduced, I dont think making the seeds to 200 would be much viable than we think.

This is related to job progress only, not the amount of actual bails being planted on the field.
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Clonazepam on 13 10, 2023, 07:53:59 am
I just wish this could be fixed soon.. as myself, there are many players who spent a lot of time as Farmer, we even challenged eachother to get Farmer daily top. It's time to bring those times back, when were 6-7 farmers at the same place waiting our seeds to grow..

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Upvote, cheers amigos.
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Violet on 13 10, 2023, 07:57:04 am
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I just wish this could be fixed soon.. as myself, there are many players who spent a lot of time as Farmer, we even challenged eachother to get Farmer daily top. It's time to bring those times back, when were 6-7 farmers at the same place waiting our seeds to grow..

 :tick:

Upvote, cheers amigos.
Hey, I just mentioned you and I know you was already posting while I am replying to your post..please avoid posting twice on the same suggestions. Next time you will be warned.
@Clonazepam
Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: 3eNab on 14 10, 2023, 01:33:27 pm
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Title: Re: [+++][B] Fix Farmer job progress
Post by: Arran on 14 10, 2023, 03:14:07 pm
Saturday 14th October 2023
- Picking up a bail as farmer now counts as 2 towards job progress, like how it was before a bug was fixed. (Arran + Metall)