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Title: [Resolved] L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Mikkel on 28 07, 2012, 10:23:38 pm
Currently, the support chat ingame, is massively spammed by players needing help, and it's not always that a staff is ready to help them, and sometimes the players are desperate after a staff answer and sometimes the answer just doesn't get noticed because so many are using the support chat, therefor L5 staff could add people in a ACL group or something that would be called "Supporters", this would give them a color like "green" in support chat, kinda like staff have red, and this would also allow them to mute a guy from the support chat, some-how. Perhabs just a global mute, 10 minutes as a max.. This would mean that us staff should use less time in support, and more time in doing our actual job, punishing the players that are breaking the rules that actually ruin others gameplay.

- Yeah, every player can help in support, but those supporters would have to be picked by the staff, and known players, so they would gain the right to mute people who are misusing the support.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: TUTEAV on 28 07, 2012, 11:42:33 pm
Nice idea, this would reduce support channel spam. Also I think there should be a L5 staff meeting to chose 10-20 "supporters".THIS would be so that all L5 staff agree about who will be the supporters.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: TUTEAV on 28 07, 2012, 11:51:13 pm
This was discussed at our staff meeting today, or at least, as much as we now did discuss, lol.
Lol, OK, I have just though about adding some kind of ranks to this new position but I find it inescesary because I don't think of any privileges that can be given to higher levels but if you find some privileges or something this could be a good idea.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Lucapi on 29 07, 2012, 12:54:32 am
Didn't QA stood for question answerer like a year ago? If not, then I did the wrong thing back then XD.  If you are adding a support group I would love to join!
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 29 07, 2012, 02:46:34 am
I really like this idea, +1.

I just wanted to add that if a Supporter would abuse, he should get banned temporarily and not just been taken the Supporter status away since this position would require alot of trust.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 29 07, 2012, 03:18:00 am
1+ point from me ,So Mikkel .... by your suggestion,We can mute the player for example ,Advertised/spammed support chat ??? if this would be added I suggest that we can't Un mute

Also the mute should be logged in the punishlog since they are still breaking #14.
+1 Supporter should not be able to unmute.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: psyKapa on 29 07, 2012, 05:41:05 am
Really nice idea... some times when there are no staff online or when they are busy we see people flaming and spamming a lot in support chat. you have my total support on this idea :)
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Steve on 29 07, 2012, 05:43:46 am
What if I wanna pick a supporter?  :'(
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Zach on 29 07, 2012, 05:50:07 am
Great Idea! when the supporters mute people will it affect there punishlog?
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: WhiteMoon on 29 07, 2012, 05:54:10 am
Nice idea... but wht if he abuse his power?
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: nadoura on 29 07, 2012, 07:01:01 am
How will you choose Supporters?Cause many are helping ..
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: psyKapa on 29 07, 2012, 07:02:10 am
How will you choose Supporters?Cause many are helping ..

Same questions here....
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: WhiteMoon on 29 07, 2012, 07:03:27 am
How will you choose Supporters?Cause many are helping ..
maybe apply for it.... Or get recommendation?
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: WhiteMoon on 29 07, 2012, 07:12:31 am
I think this will be useful because a lot of admin is busy with staff works and maybe supporters can help... And Mikkel, I forgot to ask one thing... Is there any name/tag like [CITS] or something? CITS stand for Community Of Intergerty and Transperancy Supporter(s)
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: yasser on 29 07, 2012, 07:13:08 am
making application topic for this is better. so we can know players' english skills...etc
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: psyKapa on 29 07, 2012, 07:15:05 am
making application topic for this is better. so we can know players' english skills...etc

Nope... letting the admins chose will be better... OFC they know who haves skills and who dont.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: 2PaCaLyPsE on 29 07, 2012, 01:06:21 pm
Supporters will be added as L5 like them or if they have the abilities to respond in this Potition ? any way I support this and I really like to join supporters.
i am always helping people 8)

PS. every day i see misusers,trollers,spammers,flamers at support channel but no1 do anything .....so i would really like to help.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: james298 on 29 07, 2012, 03:10:26 pm
This is a great idea Mikkel. But how will you find 20 trusted people that would like to help out ?.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Zach on 29 07, 2012, 03:20:11 pm
Supporters will be added as L5 like them or if they have the abilities to respond in this Potition ? any way I support this and I really like to join supporters.
i am always helping people 8)

PS. every day I see misusers,trollers,spammers,flamers at support channel but no1 do anything .....so I would really like to help.

As staff said they'll pick people.
Your just basically asking for the rank.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: CooKie' on 29 07, 2012, 04:08:04 pm
Mikkel great idea :P
Would really help with the server being most of the times full and support chat being spammed or misused ...moreover admins would have some weight off there shoulders +1 from me.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Aayush on 29 07, 2012, 04:30:16 pm
Nice Idea +1 from me. It would help Staff to get time to do their Staff Stuff as said by Mikkel. Players will also get support by Supporters. Definitely a +1 from me! or either a Yes! .
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Araa on 29 07, 2012, 05:06:35 pm
The mute will only apply in support chat or will it be a global one?
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Aleks1234 on 29 07, 2012, 05:12:30 pm
I support this,because people in support chat spam, and I want to help other people but these guys make it impossible for me to see who needs help.+1
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: psyKapa on 29 07, 2012, 05:14:05 pm
The mute will only apply in support chat or will it be a global one?

Araa here is the response to yout question.

...Perhabs just a global mute...
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Nilesh. on 29 07, 2012, 05:27:07 pm
What if there is no supporter or something like that is not there ???
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: psyKapa on 29 07, 2012, 05:28:43 pm
What if there is no supporter or something like that is not there ???

You mean if there is no supporter in game for some time??? well you will have to deal whit it... some times I see the server whit no staff online and nothing much apens... (only some misuse abuse in support and those kind of things)

Also, the supporters should be in different time zones and from different country's, so there's a "chance" of being at least one supporter online always 
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Som3a on 29 07, 2012, 11:58:56 pm
I strongly approve this idea, I always try to help but sometimes I can't even read the question due to the spam and some people just say bull shit in support or so. A huge +1 from me.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: 3v!l on 30 07, 2012, 12:34:24 am
good idea I always wonder if my questions were answered cause it gets flooded in a split second +1 8)
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Gonzalo on 30 07, 2012, 02:34:44 am
How about giving them access to a job like the one we have with /staff help? So they get the "Available for Help" occupation in tab
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Gonzalo on 30 07, 2012, 07:39:56 am
That won't really help, as I see it. They still could need some help at being noticed easier in the suppor channel. Such as now, you were online with me just before, and none of us really had control of support, perfect example of where we could need some supporters.

Of course, I meant that in addition to a specific color in their name, so they have both things
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: IceCube64 on 30 07, 2012, 07:49:46 am
uhmmm how can you identify them? tags or something?
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Zach on 30 07, 2012, 08:38:41 am
uhmmm how can you identify them? tags or something?

He already stated that.
They get the same thing that staff has a colour in there name.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Nolo on 30 07, 2012, 08:50:52 am
This is urgently needed since I have saw people that are on support channel trying to help some new players, and they just answer wrongly to all their questions. I hope that if this group its created, I could be part of it one day. +1
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 30 07, 2012, 11:25:22 am
As I really support this suggestion, I'll give you a proof that it would have been needed about 10 minutes ago.

Only BabY was online and this happend:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=j5xt95&s=6 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=j5xt95&s=6)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25k3987&s=6 (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25k3987&s=6)

(Same picture but one got red marks to see all the misuse)
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Will on 30 07, 2012, 02:24:47 pm
I like it. It would help lots. I would expect the regular community members and above would get this position. +1
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: WhiteMoon on 30 07, 2012, 02:27:08 pm
I like it. It would help lots. I would expect the regular community members and above would get this position. +1
well the better is... A recommendation from L4+.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Aleks1234 on 30 07, 2012, 03:11:22 pm
I like it. It would help lots. I would expect the regular community members and above would get this position. +1
Yea RCM's and higher can access that.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: WhiteMoon on 30 07, 2012, 03:28:56 pm
Yea RCM's and higher can access that.
I believe the topic said... "L5" can add specifiy supporters ingame
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: abdullahrafx on 30 07, 2012, 03:30:12 pm
I would really like to see a group of supporters, but be careful and choose the ones that don't take themselves above all, well how about an application centre, just like staff applications you can make Support Team Applications.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 30 07, 2012, 03:35:03 pm
I think that L5 can add these and L4 can recommend these.

I don't think it should be an application center for this, you should be able to earn it.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: WhiteMoon on 30 07, 2012, 03:52:56 pm
I think that L5 can add these and L4 can recommend these.

I don't think it should be an application center for this, you should be able to earn it.
at last u got my points   ;)
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: psyKapa on 30 07, 2012, 09:27:58 pm
Hell no. Regular Community Members won't gain this. Just because they're regular community members doesn't mean we trust them enough to give them mute options ingame.

+1 on this... many ppl (like me) aren't RCM and still help allot in game...
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: OlezhkA on 30 07, 2012, 09:51:39 pm
Mikkel, your idea looks pretty and very helpful. Staff tired from mutes/bans/jails and etc.
I'm agree with you. +1.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: yoyo106 on 30 07, 2012, 10:33:20 pm
Nice idea Mikkel, I agree with ya  ;)
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: DeadlySehse. on 31 07, 2012, 12:02:23 am
very nice idea u are right so much guys in support channel +1  :o
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Ahrimar on 31 07, 2012, 12:32:46 am
Well this would be a nice add to the CIT server, it will reduce all these spammers so +1
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 31 07, 2012, 01:29:58 am
Nice idea Mikkel, I agree with ya  ;)
You should check the forum rules, specialy this one:
19. Do not post things like "cool idea +1" in the server development boards

Hell no. Regular Community Members won't gain this. Just because they're regular community members doesn't mean we trust them enough to give them mute options ingame.

I agree, who said that Regular Community Members are helping alot in the support channel?
I mean there are other players that are helping really much.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Aleks1234 on 31 07, 2012, 01:38:49 am
The main guys that Help are Nolo,som3a,jocke,me,reaper,Latte,neymar,noblecross and Ikarina I think.I think They should be added to the supporters list right away, and then after people apply for it or get recommended.If you think there are more supporters than tell me who they are.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 31 07, 2012, 02:29:19 am
First, thanks HellPlayer, I'm trying my best.

But... I think L5 can give out this while L4 can recommend to the Head Staff's.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Crystalii on 31 07, 2012, 05:58:12 am
well how about an application centre, just like staff applications you can make Support Team Applications.

Answer:


making application topic for this is better. so we can know players' english skills...etc


No,,,,,,,,



I support this idea, since support channel is getting flooded lately by questions. There is many people that are trying to help, but a few of them gives out wrong answers. Staff members are busy with punishing people, so this is a way to filter out all the answers from random helpers.

But then you gotta make sure it's trusted people that gets this position or job.

Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 31 07, 2012, 01:04:18 pm
How about giving them access to a job like the one we have with /staff help? So they get the "Available for Help" occupation in tab

This would be good becaues this would mean the supporters get's an own team chat I assume, and that could be good because if a Supporter would be unsecure about if someone misused the support channel he could ask for other Supporters opinion in the team chat and then they can decide if he should be muted.

I support this occupation idea, +1.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: DeadlySehse. on 31 07, 2012, 04:41:27 pm
Mikkel u said that u will make choose some guys to say in the support room ....
those guy will be chosen or there will be applications ?
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: WhiteMoon on 31 07, 2012, 04:54:06 pm
Mikkel u said that u will make choose some guys to say in the support room ....
those guy will be chosen or there will be applications ?
Deadly -.- u need to scroll up... Like Mikkel said... U need to be choose by L5 or get recommended by L4 I think.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Donmairaj on 31 07, 2012, 04:55:58 pm
I suggest to pick the supporters, you should have an exam/test and pick the people with the most knowledge in game!
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Nolo on 31 07, 2012, 07:41:01 pm
Seriously, please don't worry about getting it.
Suggest ideas as how to make this better.
Sorry for double posting but, come to think of an idea, we could implement a Level system of at least 3 Levels.

L3 Head Supporters - This will mainly be composed of the L5 admins suggested people, can freely mute someone misuing.

L2 Trusted Supporters - Will be composed of L4 recommended people. Are more trusted than L1.

L1 New Supporters - Will be mainly composed of people that are going to try their best to stay on this group.

As I see it, L1 rank is not needed at all, we could just make 2 ranks, Trusted and Head. Trusted can't mute, Head can mute people misusing. Leave your opinions about this.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: psyKapa on 31 07, 2012, 07:47:05 pm
Trusted can't mute, Head can mute people misusing.

Then what will be the work of the "trusted"



BTW I think that supporters should have access to the support channel chat log so they can respond to support channel missuses report's... probably there will be a bit that no supporter/staff will be online and it would allow ppl to report them those misuses...
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Crystalii on 31 07, 2012, 08:07:27 pm
Then what will be the work of the "trusted"


The work of trusted is to help and prove that they are really doing their job actively. If they really are good, any L5 can promote them to Head supporter.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: beerman123 on 31 07, 2012, 08:11:04 pm
Sorry for double posting but, come to think of an idea, we could implement a Level system of at least 3 Levels.

L3 Head Supporters - This will mainly be composed of the L5 admins suggested people, can freely mute someone misuing.

L2 Trusted Supporters - Will be composed of L4 recommended people. Are more trusted than L1.

L1 New Supporters - Will be mainly composed of people that are going to try their best to stay on this group.

As I see it, L1 rank is not needed at all, we could just make 2 ranks, Trusted and Head. Trusted can't mute, Head can mute people misusing. Leave your opinions about this.

No need for ranks. One support team leader maybe, but that would probably be a staff.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Nolo on 31 07, 2012, 08:18:56 pm
Then what will be the work of the "trusted"
Well the point of them is to demonstrate they are worth enough to become Heads one day, but as Rick said, maybe it is better to add only one Head (Admin) and super trusted people, this will be Trusted Supporters, without any Level. Agree with you Rick.

btw In my opinion those supporters should be selected from different time zones, and also they should be chosed carefully so no one abuses the power of muting people, only people that are noble, trusted, and experienced should be accepted.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: TommyBoy1998 on 02 08, 2012, 05:38:32 pm
Great this will be an nice idea and 100% sure it will be added okay but maybe there are good people or some people want be an admin and can't help in Support Chat even when they saying on the apply "I saw him never in Support chat" but maybe we can help this?
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: Jocke on 03 08, 2012, 12:42:28 am
Great this will be an nice idea and 100% sure it will be added okay but maybe there are good people or some people want be an admin and can't help in Support Chat even when they saying on the apply "I saw him never in Support chat" but maybe we can help this?

Sorry but this was abit hard to understand, but you can always help in the support chat, you don't have to have this rank, the idea with this rank is to keep the support chat "cleared" from players who are misuseing. You'll always be avaible to help in the support chat unless you are muted.
Title: Re: L5 can add specifiy supporters ingame
Post by: beerman123 on 03 08, 2012, 12:47:45 pm
This has been added. L5 will now add supporters upon special invite.