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Title: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Barcode on 25 10, 2020, 02:24:06 am
Which criteria your suggestion meets: Increase balance or fairness/ Reduce inconvenience.

Introduction
Yesterday, I noticed something. As you know after AR's there is a notification about top damagers top killers and top medics for both sides. When I was a criminal, after AR, I get reputation points depends on my damage but when I changed my side I didn't get arrest point just I earned really small amount of money. I hit about 1800 damage and I was top damager but people stole my kills and I get nothing. This situation makes me angry and uncomfortable and then I noticed lots of people situation like that. If you don't get an asist, you take nothing then I found a suggestion.

My Suggestion
My suggestion is simple. If a police officer hit 1k damage in AR's, he/she will get 100 arrest points.(10/1)
EDIT:
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It can be 10/2 if community accept it

I want to explain why it's needed


Regards...

Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Ths on 25 10, 2020, 02:58:12 am
Do you have any current data for this? So the community will know if it's fair enough or not. For me, At the point when I'm playing as a cop is difficult to get notoriety particularly in AR since it was irritating in the event that somebody took you executes. in any case, since it just by karma or possibly it was hard when you have 1k harm on AR so I'm going to vote POSITIVE good luck  :thumb:
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Zeky on 25 10, 2020, 04:26:01 am
I have realised that it has been a lot harder to gather arrest points recently but never really knew the reason, I also attend ARs and CEs regularly therefore I get a decent amount of kills however I’ve always felt that something wasn’t right, I think this is really needed and in my opinion even 100 arrest points for 1k damage is too little, I think 250 is a fair amount seeing as criminals get a lot of reputation points when they rob/kill/damage as fair as I know, and it’s just not balanced enough. In saying that, I think it took me 2-3 days of grinding as a police officer just to level up once, so that doesn’t make a lot of sense and therefore hopefully this suggestion will help balance it out a little.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Barcode on 28 10, 2020, 07:36:21 am
Quote from: Zeky05 on 25 10, 2020, 04:26:01 am
I have realised that it has been a lot harder to gather arrest points recently but never really knew the reason, I also attend ARs and CEs regularly therefore I get a decent amount of kills however I’ve always felt that something wasn’t right, I think this is really needed and in my opinion even 100 arrest points for 1k damage is too little, I think 250 is a fair amount seeing as criminals get a lot of reputation points when they rob/kill/damage as fair as I know, and it’s just not balanced enough. In saying that, I think it took me 2-3 days of grinding as a police officer just to level up once, so that doesn’t make a lot of sense and therefore hopefully this suggestion will help balance it out a little.
Probably level system is easier than criminal system thats why we think its hard but in recent system its hardest cause criminals cant get wl compared to old system. I edited suggestion. if accept by community, I can change all.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: BlackBear on 29 10, 2020, 10:58:34 am
I was going to vote with negative but 10 damage for 1 arrest point is too much reasonable. AP is too useless as well as the RP but some people care about them. in the law side, how much AP is how much money have you got as we only receive AP when arresting someone so connecting the damage with the AP isn't needed as it gives you 0$ but we already receive money for the damage we have done so it's a bit connected. Positive.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Geisus on 29 10, 2020, 02:51:42 pm
Agree with your suggestion, this suggestion will help cops to earn arrest points easier. Sometimes I am top damagers but my target got killed by other cops (That we call KSer), it really unfair because you wasted your ammo on wanted criminals and you didn't kill any wanted criminals. My vote is positive.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Maximo on 31 10, 2020, 12:06:48 pm
Of course, this really should be added to the law side. But as Zeky mentioned above. 100 Arrest points is few compared to Criminal Reputation point earning. Somehow, we have to increase it to 250 Arrest point per / 1K damage. But I want a little addition to his opinion. If it could be 300 AP, that will be better and decent. In all ways, I am agreed with you and Zeky. So I want this option get added with Zeky's addition. And I hope you agree to make it 300 AP that would be balanced. I am voting Positive since this will increase the entertainment in the law side and will help to level up in cop. As I worked cop for decent period and leveling up there is kinda hard. Also this will make a fairness/balance between Criminal side and law side.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Scarface. on 31 10, 2020, 05:34:14 pm
Well, this is a good idea, since it isn't easy for me to get Arrest Points as I am a big noob and a newbie. It is a very good plan, I hope that it gets more and more positive votes as it is really useful for people like me. I am voting positive in this topic. Good luck
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Diamond on 02 11, 2020, 04:17:26 am
After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 5 positive votes.
- 0 negative votes.

The suggestion remains a neutral priority
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: DraGo on 02 11, 2020, 09:08:46 am
I attend AR's as a criminal and when I make damage I get seome reputation points but when I attend as a cop I don't get anything it is not fair because I keep damaging but other cops killstealing.I guess if we could get some Arrest points it will be balanced for both sides.Positive
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: #Nathan on 02 11, 2020, 09:31:34 am
This is reasonable to be honest, we (criminals) get rewarded with RP even if we don't get kills as long as we deal damage to cops, why wouldn't it be the same for cops? after all if a cop doesn't get any kill at the AR he will not get any reward for spending drugs, bullets and time there which can be frustrating, I support this idea, hopefully this little bit of reward can do something to motivate players to play as cops and assist ARs.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Babushka on 02 11, 2020, 05:20:10 pm
I think and I hope everyone knows that earning a kill is easier than getting good damage. I myself once got 2 kills and 80 damage in an AR. The person who is actually shooting the enemies and getting damage is not getting any money or progress so he should at least get Arrest points depending on his Damage done in AR. I am supporting this Suggestion  :tick:
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Hanns on 03 11, 2020, 12:31:57 am
No. Then obviously cops will gain this advantage and you'll ruin criminals life. You should care about the other side also when suggesting such things, Cops are already getting paid anormal amount of money, Imagine you could reach the earn limit within 30 minutes or less. When a cop kill a criminal in a ce, he'll get the preventation from robbing the ar which is 6k or whatever and he also get another cash based on the criminal's WL. The current system is pretty much good and fair between both sides. If u wanna collect some arrest points, then go ahead and kill criminals whom are chilling at LS, Negative.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Barcode on 03 11, 2020, 11:21:51 am
Quote from: Zexeeo on 02 11, 2020, 11:53:26 pm
Whats the point? so u're complaining about payments or what cause I don't get/understand the point tbh

Lots of people understand the point and you didn't so you should read it carefully or you should improve your Eng. skills and moreover this post is not allowed because :
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Quote from: Hanns# on 03 11, 2020, 12:31:57 am
No. Then obviously cops will gain this advantage and you'll ruin criminals life. You should care about the other side also when suggesting such things, Cops are already getting paid anormal amount of money, Imagine you could reach the earn limit within 30 minutes or less. When a cop kill a criminal in a ce, he'll get the preventation from robbing the ar which is 6k or whatever and he also get another cash based on the criminal's WL. The current system is pretty much good and fair between both sides. If u wanna collect some arrest points, then go ahead and kill criminals whom are chilling at LS, Negative.

Again you didn't read it carefully or just comment on subjective attitude. It's not about criminal life It's just for police officers. I can give you summary of your misunderstood parts:
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It needs for fairness because cops earning in AR's are really funny money. If a criminal rob 2 times like LS oil, get 220-250k$ so criminals can get money+reputation points even if they don't kill a cop.

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When I was a criminal, after AR, I get reputation points depends on my damage
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I hit about 1800 damage and I was top damager but people stole my kills and I get nothing.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: TrippyXtraHot on 03 11, 2020, 01:54:36 pm
I wont say much but its called "Arrest" Points... Negative.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Zeky on 03 11, 2020, 02:16:02 pm
Quote from: Barcode on 28 10, 2020, 07:36:21 am
Probably level system is easier than criminal system thats why we think its hard but in recent system its hardest cause criminals cant get wl compared to old system. I edited suggestion. if accept by community, I can change all.

Yea exactly right, we need something in relation to this for the law side as well to balance it as well because kill stealing happens on both sides whether it be crims or law, and as I said before about it being harder for us to level up - this keeps becoming something I am aware of day by day, I have been level 32 now for a couple of days now while constantly attending ARs and CEs and therefore something is definitely not right here, yes you said tho that it 'may' feel like its hard, but the thing is it is, it doesn't just feel like it is hard to level up.
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Emre on 04 11, 2020, 09:30:24 am
Such a good idea for the cops who can't get kill which is a pretty common situation even for master players. My vote is positive and I will state my reasons down bellow.  :tick:
1- Firstly I want to point out 10/1 isn't enough for 1 k damage. 10/2 is better.
2- The damages can't get kills easily because they are generally the victims of ks. So this will help them
3- And about Rustlers. There are cops who provides air raids but don't get any Ap. This will help them either.
Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: wetto on 04 11, 2020, 09:34:30 am
The idea is brilliant and can be added to CE's as well. And 10/2 would be better as you said you are going to change it depending on votes. My vote is a direct positive and I don't think there will be anyone would be under unfairness because of this. And this doesn't effects the balance of money between crims and law. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Waltz on 04 11, 2020, 09:39:23 am
Barcode came up with an amazing idea again. Just loved it when I first read it. Even if I'm a criminal I understand the cops suffer of damage. And this happens in C side as well but not this harsh. Law side has limited targets who they can't kill again after they killed so they need to wait the guy to get wl again. But C is opposite they can damage law everytime. Cause of that ks is way more popular in Law side and this will help to guys who suffers from it. And I'm pretty sure I saw many guys complaining about this in my fmsg. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Nepenthe on 04 11, 2020, 02:03:19 pm
This thing is a very small detail for criminals or civils but for law, it is a very important thing because they deal so much damage while holding entrances. But unfortunately their AP gets stolen by kill stealers who are everywhere. Adding this will help the people who suffers because of the stealers. I stole 1 2 kill recently in an ar and apologized from my friend who was nearly killing the suspect. But the other stealer don't even apologize. And just make people mad with this they will get some bit of the Ap which is a very fair deal. My vote is positive good luck. :tick:
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Adahan on 04 11, 2020, 03:25:50 pm
This situation is very common among the law side so before stating any reasons I want to state my vote; Positive :tick: .
I got so many friends from FBI and SAPD and some of them complains about this time to time. Esspecially the Rustler pilots who has a important job in Law side. The idea is brilliant and can solve it but changing it from 1/10 to 2/10 is better. Because 100 ap isn't a big deal with 1k damage. But 200 is just enough. My vote is positive as I said above :tick: .
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Ahmed? on 05 11, 2020, 07:29:00 am
Yes, when criminals hit the policemen, and another person kills him, he takes through the kskills, he takes the killing and the vegetable, and the other person takes the vegetable too, even if he was 90% injured, for this reason we must be more fair here and enable the police to have the same criminals because many We get money even if there is no condition, and I am positive
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Firebird on 05 11, 2020, 07:49:51 am
I'll have to agree with your suggestion for several reasons but main one is there isn't much ways to earn arrest points rather than killing or doing bomb defusal mission.

I believe it's needed because to reach 50 Level Police is way too hard and even harder if you're not a good combat player.Also I believe this suggestion is good because law groups have always a requirement for arrest points in order to join an official group. By making more options to earn arrest points we can tell that the canditate police officer who applied have enough experience around the field and at least he has spend some time in the Police Service Team depending on his arrest points even tho might have a very low kill ratio in AR's or CE's, he'll be earning his arrest points by providing assistance to the police service which matters the most rather than just kill farming.

Compared to the criminal job of which they earn reputation points from robberies/side missions or cop killing, I think having a few more alternatives of earning arrest points for the law team wont be a big deal and it will balance it.

Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Resko. on 06 11, 2020, 03:56:22 am
Great idea! Now the top 3 of damage get nothing but a small amount of money, this will be more fair to our side. POSITIVE  :tick:
Title: Re: Depending on the Damage in AR, Earning Arrest Point
Post by: Arran on 07 11, 2020, 02:11:42 pm
- Cops will get 10% of their damage done in armed robberies and criminal events in arrest points. (Arran + Barcode)