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Title: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 26 01, 2014, 05:18:44 pm
Hello Community,

Today I'm suggesting a new feature for cops. Basically, I'm suggesting that cops with 100,000 AP and 2200 arrests can use a new command, /gocop that will give you the normal pólice officer job (you can choose the skin).

This will work like: /gocop <skin id>.

Requirements to have this command:

To prevent abuse:


I would like to hear your opinions about this, also some ideas to prevent abuse.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: m7med11 on 26 01, 2014, 05:22:18 pm
Well,I liked the idea and I upvoted
about the abuse,simple rules like /golaw /gochief that ruels you already mentioned that leads to punishment.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: DeRip. on 26 01, 2014, 05:22:42 pm
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You can't use it when you are close to any CnR event.
why? I mean it will be useful for cops if they want to go to events faster, criminals can use /criminal any time and go to the event.., u could make it like "not able to use it inside PDR/DS/ACA area or inside any int..

Edit: also about the skin part, we could make it like /gocop <skin id> like /gocop 240 (not sure about the skin id)
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: CocoNuT on 26 01, 2014, 05:29:08 pm
To prevent abuse:
  • You can't use it when you are near to a wanted criminal.
  • You can't use it when you are close to any CnR event.

Make it so that you can /gocop when you are close to any CnR event, but you can't if there is 1 wanted criminal.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Hello on 26 01, 2014, 05:32:07 pm
why? I mean it will be useful for cops if they want to go to events faster, criminals can use /criminal any time and go to the event.., u could make it like "not able to use it inside PDR/DS/ACA area or inside any int..

Edit: also about the skin part, we could make it like /gocop <skin id> like /gocop 240 (not sure about the skin id)
Yes, L10 cops won't be abuse it in the CnR event interiors. How cops will abuse it when they are close to any CnR event ? So they can't abuse it when they are close to any CnR event. About your suggestion, I want to give a small idea. Cops should be able to see their job levels in F5. This is my idea. I am supporting your idea by the way.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Master. on 26 01, 2014, 05:40:04 pm
Totally agreed! Not everyone is working hard enough on the law side, if they do, theyre having L10 Police Rank, which is named Chief Constable, and that proves that they worked alot, arrested, chased many criminals and took 2200+ of them down, even some cops are having 5000+ arrests in here, i'm sure they deserve it.

It can't be abused anyway, with those additions that you've informed us about. Would be cool to have such feature for L10's.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: StevieFTW on 26 01, 2014, 05:43:29 pm
No, preferably the requirement should be based on Arrest Points not Arrests, because any noob can arrest one star criminals to get high number of arrest. I think a fair number of arrest points to get /gocop is 2200 * 30 = 66000. 2200 is the number of arrests for Chief Constable and 30 is max number for a 3WL wanted player.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: m7med11 on 26 01, 2014, 05:46:17 pm
No, preferably the requirement should be based on Arrest Points not Arrests, because any noob can arrest one star criminals to get high number of arrest. I think a fair number of arrest points to get /gocop is 2200 * 30 = 66000. 2200 is the number of arrests for Chief Constable and 30 is max number for a 3WL wanted player.
Well,any " noob" its not a high valued thing so you can say abuse and noobs and that its just ability to take job its not like /gochief so we're worried that any nub can get it.anyway I respect your opinion.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Master. on 26 01, 2014, 05:47:09 pm
No, preferably the requirement should be based on Arrest Points not Arrests, because any noob can arrest one star criminals to get high number of arrest. I think a fair number of arrest points to get /gocop is 2200 * 30 = 66000. 2200 is the number of arrests for Chief Constable and 30 is max number for a 3WL wanted player.
So you mean only players with 66,000 arrest points and more will be able to use it? Well in my opinion, it must be at least 100,000 if it's gonna be based on arrest points.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Stryder. on 26 01, 2014, 05:51:12 pm
Added your suggestions to prevent abuse and removed the one close to CnR events since you can't abuse it.

About the requirements, I wanted to discuss them, StevieFTW is right, any noob can arrest 1 star criminals which is not that hard. Aprox 2200 x 50wl = 100k ap, so I would agree on make it 100k arrestpoints to use it since 50.00 in the apar is good enough.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Hello on 26 01, 2014, 05:52:09 pm
So you mean only players with 66,000 arrest points and more will be able to use it? Well in my opinion, it must be at least 100,000 if it's gonna be based on arrest points.
66,000 points aren't enough for this ability. 100,000 points will be good. Because any cop can get 66,000 arrests if he/she play in the law side for a month. He/she can get it easily by CnR events. Therefore 100,000 will be great.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: m7med11 on 26 01, 2014, 05:57:38 pm
66,000 points aren't enough for this ability. 100,000 points will be good. Because any cop can get 66,000 arrests if he/she play in the law side for a month. He/she can get it easily by CnR events. Therefore 100,000 will be great.
Well,not any noob cop that plays for month can get that 66k for example: Chique he's a HPC and great law member but got law arrestpoints/Arrests that means he shouldn't get it?Also for example hmm..Me I got more than dat 66k but not that 100k and I play ass law officer for more than a year and half so   it doesn't  that all should have that,you'll find some people have a lot ap but that because they're addicted to CnR events or can get kills but not all respected known cops should be professional gamers.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Master. on 26 01, 2014, 06:02:53 pm
Well,not any noob cop that plays for month can get that 66k for example: Chique he's a HPC and great law member but got law arrestpoints/Arrests that means he shouldn't get it?Also for example hmm..Me I got more than dat 66k but not that 100k and I play ass law officer for more than a year and half so   it doesn't  that all should have that,you'll find some people have a lot ap but that because they're addicted to CnR events or can get kills but not all respected known cops should be professional gamers.
To get that feature, ability to /gocop, you must work hard, BlackBurn. Or you mean that there should be a system like for Police Chiefs and they must apply to get that feature for themselfes? Only accepted ones will be put in ACL list and then they can use it? My idea, what do you think about it?
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Hello on 26 01, 2014, 06:04:01 pm
Well,not any noob cop that plays for month can get that 66k for example: Chique he's a HPC and great law member but got law arrestpoints/Arrests that means he shouldn't get it?Also for example hmm..Me I got more than dat 66k but not that 100k and I play ass law officer for more than a year and half so   it doesn't  that all should have that,you'll find some people have a lot ap but that because they're addicted to CnR events or can get kills but not all respected known cops should be professional gamers.
Already we are suggesting it with 2 ways. Arrests and arrest points. You will be able to use this command if you meet requirements. This isn't about your personality and loyality. If you meet the requirements then you will be able to use this command. I am respecting your words. Waiting for your idea.
To get that feature, ability to /gocop, you must work hard, BlackBurn. Or you mean that there should be a system like for Police Chiefs and they must apply to get that feature for themselfes? Only accepted ones will be put in ACL list and then they can use it? My idea, what do you think about it?
Yes this system may help us. Blackburn said there are a lot of cops playing in the law side since long time. We may have an application topic to get this ability. Police Chief will decide about you in that topic

Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Stryder. on 26 01, 2014, 06:08:10 pm
Well,not any noob cop that plays for month can get that 66k for example: Chique he's a HPC and great law member but got law arrestpoints/Arrests that means he shouldn't get it?Also for example hmm..Me I got more than dat 66k but not that 100k and I play ass law officer for more than a year and half so   it doesn't  that all should have that,you'll find some people have a lot ap but that because they're addicted to CnR events or can get kills but not all respected known cops should be professional gamers.

Being a HPC AHPC or a PC has nothing to do with my suggestion, I want to reward hard work by giving them this command. Even, the PC's have /gochief, they got it because they 'work hard for law', now, let's reward those who really work hard for it.

Agreed on 100k AP to get this command and added to the suggestion.
Title: Re: /gocop for cops with 100,000 arrestpoints.
Post by: Master. on 26 01, 2014, 06:19:37 pm
I've noticed that you added /gocop <skin id>, which skins? In my opinion, every single police officers skin must be enabled for /gocop, what do you think? Like if he wants girl skin, he will use it's ID, if he wants any other skin, for example I prefer those small skins like girl skin, theyre smaller than those fat cop skins, for CnR events, so the cop would use /gocop <girlskinsID> if he wants.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Areion on 26 01, 2014, 06:50:57 pm
Being a HPC AHPC or a PC has nothing to do with my suggestion, I want to reward hard work by giving them this command. Even, the PC's have /gochief, they got it because they 'work hard for law', now, let's reward those who really work hard for it.

Agreed on 100k AP to get this command and added to the suggestion.


First of all great suggestion. You edited your post and removed L10 cops (2200+) arrests and replaced it with 100.000+ arrestpoints. I would say you need atleast 2200 arrests and 100.000 arrestpoints.
Title: Re: /gocop for cops with 100,000 arrestpoints.
Post by: henry997 on 26 01, 2014, 06:53:39 pm
I think this is a great idea , this isnt something you can just get really quick you'd have to work hard to get the perk , if you have 100,00 Arrest Points , you would be preety dedicated to law and wouldnt abuse , and if someone were to abuse it they should get it removed from them if someone to were report them? +1
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: Stryder. on 26 01, 2014, 10:03:36 pm
Already we are suggesting it with 2 ways. Arrests and arrest points. You will be able to use this command if you meet requirements. This isn't about your personality and loyality. If you meet the requirements then you will be able to use this command. I am respecting your words. Waiting for your idea.
Yes this system may help us. Blackburn said there are a lot of cops playing in the law side since long time. We may have an application topic to get this ability. Police Chief will decide about you in that topic


No. Police Chief's already have a lot of privileges and many people including myself will disagree to see police chief deciding who will have this command. Also getting this with arrestpoints will be easier since police chief's don't know who really works for law.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Bl3nd on 26 01, 2014, 10:07:25 pm
Why not give self-job assign to all L10 players in every job then? ..  :fp:

Being a L10 in Cop Job doesn't mean you're ultra super professional person who deserves such command. I even bet you if this suggestion got added, cop job will have more players than before, and everyone will go after 1 star everywhere.

There is people with 100.000+ AP / 1000 Arrests and dumbasses.

Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Master. on 26 01, 2014, 10:25:42 pm
Why not give self-job assign to all L10 players in every job then? ..  :fp:

Being a L10 in Cop Job doesn't mean you're ultra super professional person who deserves such command. I even bet you if this suggestion got added, cop job will have more players than before, and everyone will go after 1 star everywhere.

There is people with 100.000+ AP / 1000 Arrests and dumbasses.
Isn't it even better for us, if they chase even those 1 stars? I know it's "Noobish" act to arrest such wanted levels but still, F5 will be clear for sure. About "Not everyone deserves it, having 100.000 arrest points aren't enough" or such thing, what about using my idea, adding an application center which will be also handled by choosen people, such as HPC's or others, trusted, experienced wise members of the law I mean, they'll accept/deny application for /gocop, gotta think about the name "Police .... Application"
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: FaDy#QQ on 26 01, 2014, 11:07:00 pm
Isn't it even better for us, if they chase even those 1 stars? I know it's "Noobish" act to arrest such wanted levels but still, F5 will be clear for sure. About "Not everyone deserves it, having 100.000 arrest points aren't enough" or such thing, what about using my idea, adding an application center which will be also handled by choosen people, such as HPC's or others, trusted, experienced wise members of the law I mean, they'll accept/deny application for /gocop, gotta think about the name "Police .... Application"
Applications ?
Accept and deny ?
By HPC ?
So this will be the same of Police Chief
downvoted your reply
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 26 01, 2014, 11:29:56 pm
Why not give self-job assign to all L10 players in every job then? ..  :fp:

Being a L10 in Cop Job doesn't mean you're ultra super professional person who deserves such command. I even bet you if this suggestion got added, cop job will have more players than before, and everyone will go after 1 star everywhere.

There is people with 100.000+ AP / 1000 Arrests and dumbasses.

I know that, then a solution will be to increase the requiriments more, will be a lot better if more cops were patrolling, SA will be clear of criminals.

Isn't it even better for us, if they chase even those 1 stars? I know it's "Noobish" act to arrest such wanted levels but still, F5 will be clear for sure. About "Not everyone deserves it, having 100.000 arrest points aren't enough" or such thing, what about using my idea, adding an application center which will be also handled by choosen people, such as HPC's or others, trusted, experienced wise members of the law I mean, they'll accept/deny application for /gocop, gotta think about the name "Police .... Application"

No, actually someone that worked that hard for the law deserve this. You want an application and the PC's accept/deny them? No, that is like the PC system and this is totally different, nobody (except for PC's) will like to see Police Chief's saying: No you don't deserve this because I never see you. Most of them does not even met the requirements I suggested above.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: DeadlySehse. on 27 01, 2014, 12:33:27 am
Well, I kinda disagree, I know this suggestion was done because of the /gomedic when being a Jesus Christ rank in the medic job, but to reach L10 cop isn't as hard as getting L10 as medic. So basicly I would say that 65% of CIT cops have reached level 10 or even more, which will make everyone be able to use /gocop, also /gomedic isn't as abusable as /gocop, that's why it was added. On the other hand /gocop can be abused in a high level, also who is going to monitor 65% of CIT cops, to make sure whether they are abusing it or not ? Down-voted.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: beerman123 on 27 01, 2014, 12:38:43 am
Basically if you want a command like this you can try to join police chiefs to use /gochief or you can try to get a high rank in one of the official groups so you can use /golaw.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 27 01, 2014, 01:27:43 am
Then we can increase the requirements, give me one that would be fair. Also, I already gave some ideas to prevent abuse and I think there are no more situations in which this will be abused.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: FidoDido on 27 01, 2014, 01:31:38 am
What about adding hours requeriments? I think when you reach 500/600 hours of playtime you get the enough experience to take this feature.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Hello on 27 01, 2014, 01:52:19 am
I want to share my opinions about the requirements

Requirements would be like this:

- Minumum 1000+ hours
- Minumum 2200+ Arrests
-Minumum 100/150 k+ Arrest points
-No sacked by a Police chief in the last month (If you sacked by a PC then you won't be able to use this command for a month. I am not sure adding of this requirement)

Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Mukhtar on 27 01, 2014, 03:25:44 am
  • You can't use it inside DS/PDR/ACA zone.
Why only these 3 events. what about BR/DFR/MDM!!! If you don't add these events then all those who have too wait 50 mints to attend the next event will get medic job the they will enter and then /gocop . Also when cops have to wait for more criminals to enter to event then they will do the same.
so, add it that, *You can not use it when you are in any criminal event
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 27 01, 2014, 03:43:17 am
Added that you can't use it inside any event, because it can be abusable for the reasons Mukhtar said.
Also added an hour requirement since playtime shows how active and if you are experienced enough.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: JoKeR999 on 27 01, 2014, 10:41:36 pm
that because they're addicted to CnR events or can get kills but not all respected known cops should be professional gamers.
Yes, because they are addicted.. Work hard to get what you want, I think that 100k of AP is so low and I think that it should get changed upto 250k..
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Dimit on 28 01, 2014, 03:16:10 am
TOTALLY downvoting.

The amount of potential abuse in on this server is high.
Either players just /gocop and bribe their partners where ever they are, switch back to criminal easily.

when there are open shootouts where a group of criminals camps in an area like FFH hood, they run inside , take the job and again, pure abuse.


L10 cop level doesnt make a player a trustable person, in my time as groupleader I met many high stats officers wuth ridiculous behavior, constant rulebreaking and abuse of any possible things.

The only way to take advantage of this feature is to abuse it only, since if you need the job and dont have a reason to abuse it, you can simply go to a police department and take the job without taking it instantly near a criminal and gain an unfair advantage.


those /go x commands were not meant as rewards in the past.


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Being a HPC AHPC or a PC has nothing to do with my suggestion, I want to reward hard work by giving them this command. Even, the PC's have /gochief, they got it because they 'work hard for law', now, let's reward those who really work hard for it.

They dont have the command for prestige or as an reward, it lets them switch to the lawside instantly to execute specific work without being blocked


Raising stats still falls under the the same aspect: high stats dont make players trustable, lots of misuse can be expected, tbough this would be the only advantage of this command


Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 28 01, 2014, 03:39:15 am
I already gave some solutions to prevent abuse. In the first situation you show, bribes only work for 3 or less stars, not a big deal. On the second one when you run inside an interior with criminals spawnkilling (which is a rulebreak), I already stated that you can't use this command mear wanted criminals or in interiors.

If you have another abuse situation that could be done which this command, post it here.

Abou the PC thing, yes, it is a reward. Also, this will make players change to law side to execute specific work.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Mukhtar on 28 01, 2014, 08:51:34 am
TOTALLY downvoting.

The amount of potential abuse in on this server is high.
Either players just /gocop and bribe their partners where ever they are, switch back to criminal easily.

when there are open shootouts where a group of criminals camps in an area like FFH hood, they run inside , take the job and again, pure abuse.


L10 cop level doesnt make a player a trustable person, in my time as groupleader I met many high stats officers wuth ridiculous behavior, constant rulebreaking and abuse of any possible things.

The only way to take advantage of this feature is to abuse it only, since if you need the job and dont have a reason to abuse it, you can simply go to a police department and take the job without taking it instantly near a criminal and gain an unfair advantage.


those /go x commands were not meant as rewards in the past.


They dont have the command for prestige or as an reward, it lets them switch to the lawside instantly to execute specific work without being blocked


Raising stats still falls under the the same aspect: high stats dont make players trustable, lots of misuse can be expected, tbough this would be the only advantage of this command
How it can be abused!
Hello Community,
  • You can't use it when you are near a wanted criminal.
  • You can't use it on interiors.
*We can add"You can not accept bribe for 3 mints after using /gocop
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: FaDy#QQ on 28 01, 2014, 12:56:13 pm
How it can be abused! *We can add"You can not accept bribe for 3 mints after using /gocop
No need for this!
Because you already can't gocop while standing near a wanted player so, How would I gocop and bribe him when he is already wanted.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: JoKeR999 on 28 01, 2014, 03:34:40 pm
No need for this!
Because you already can't gocop while standing near a wanted player so, How would I gocop and bribe him when he is already wanted.
Some of them will abuse,
Some cops (L10) now moved to crime life, People such as LegEnD, He can go away from the criminal > /gocop > come back to the wanted guy > bribe, It's possible.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: FaDy#QQ on 28 01, 2014, 04:24:45 pm
Some of them will abuse,
Some cops (L10) now moved to crime life, People such as LegEnD, He can go away from the criminal > /gocop > come back to the wanted guy > bribe, It's possible.
Maybe you're right
so to make it un-abuseable
I'm suggesting so the person who did /gocop, Can NOT bribe others.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: LIK-JE-SNEE on 28 01, 2014, 04:57:34 pm
Some of them will abuse,
Some cops (L10) now moved to crime life, People such as LegEnD, He can go away from the criminal > /gocop > come back to the wanted guy > bribe, It's possible.

Actually you can:

- Go to the LSPD with your wanted friend
- Take the police job
- Go back to your wanted friend
- Let him bribe you

It's about the same thing, but my way takes more time.

It's a great suggestion and gives the cops a awesome goal, upvoting.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Dimit on 28 01, 2014, 05:00:17 pm
Maybe you're right
so to make it un-abuseable
I'm suggesting so the person who did /gocop, Can NOT bribe others.


Either the radius thats free of wanted players must be huge to prevent unfair advantage.



Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: JoKeR999 on 28 01, 2014, 05:05:49 pm
- Go to the LSPD with your wanted friend
- Take the police job
- Go back to your wanted friend
- Let him bribe you
Using /gocop will allow us to go "little" bit away from the criminal..
- Go to the LSPD with your wanted friend
Impossible
It's a great suggestion and gives the cops a awesome goal, upvoting.
I agree


I even think that to make it like this:
In order to use /gocop command you should've atleast 250k or being on top 50 cops
Having more than 350hours to prevent abuse by those who are newbies.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Dimit on 28 01, 2014, 06:04:01 pm
Using /gocop will allow us to go "little" bit away from the criminal.. ImpossibleI agree


I even think that to make it like this:
In order to use /gocop command you should've atleast 250k or being on top 50 cops
Having more than 350hours to prevent abuse by those who are newbies.

Stats dont say anything about your potential of abusing the feature.
Either I just took a look at the top 50 police list, if you check it too, you might change your oppinion about this.
Ofcourse honorable rewards for experienced cops like a skin that can only be taken on that status such as police detective needs a higher amount of arrests to take it, or making them able to spawn FBI Ranchers as jobvehicles at Policedepartments, those are prestige rewards, but that /gocop is less an reward, more being only useful to take advantage of the command in a situation where it gives an advantage to the cop


350 hours arent really high stats btw
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Azoulas on 28 01, 2014, 06:35:54 pm
I'm 100% against this suggestion.

I have seen cops who gained around 6-10k AP a day so 100k AP would be way too low.

Also as people have stated it could be easily abused, and it will be I'm sure if you allow normal players who just stat farm to have access to it.

As it is right now, the only people who have access to something like /golaw, /gochief, ect... are people who are very established on the law side, they are people who have worked hard to gain those commands and are trustworthy players who are loyal to the law side.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Hello on 28 01, 2014, 06:45:01 pm
I'm 100% against this suggestion.

I have seen cops who gained around 6-10k AP a day so 100k AP would be way too low.

Also as people have stated it could be easily abused, and it will be I'm sure if you allow normal players who just stat farm to have access to it.

As it is right now, the only people who have access to something like /golaw, /gochief, ect... are people who are very established on the law side, they are people who have worked hard to gain those commands and are trustworthy players who are loyal to the law side.
There are a lot of great law members. They worked hard for law side but they don't have /golaw command because they need high rank in any official group. So I am suggesting an application topic for this command. Cops will apply here for /golaw command and head chiefs will decide about him.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: FidoDido on 28 01, 2014, 06:50:56 pm
I know some criminals who were on the law side that meet these requeriments, what about them?
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: LIK-JE-SNEE on 28 01, 2014, 06:53:13 pm
I know some criminals who were on the law side that meet these requeriments, what about them?

Than they can use also /gocop, but it isn't easy to get L10 so they work hard for it and deserve it in my opinion.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Zergad on 28 01, 2014, 07:01:55 pm
If it gets added, we need something to prevent any abusive use.

: If you use /gocop, you CAN NOT accept bribes for 10-15 minutes.
: You can use /gocop once every 15-30 minutes. (to prevent someone quit the job and able to take it after few secs again) (or quit job to evade an IG situtation (shoot-out with crims) )
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Gabriel. on 28 01, 2014, 07:03:39 pm
I totally agree on this, but I think the AP requirements should be a little bit higher.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: LIK-JE-SNEE on 28 01, 2014, 08:56:40 pm
I totally agree on this, but I think the AP requirements should be a little bit higher.

I'm thinking about 150k AP, it isn't easy to get it fast.
But what about the arrests? Make it 3000 arrests or something like that.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Master. on 28 01, 2014, 08:58:21 pm
I'm thinking about 150k AP, it isn't easy to get it fast.
But what about the arrests? Make it 3000 arrests or something like that.
We increased it from 60 k upto 100 k already, enough in my opinion. Arrests? Aren't 3000 too much? 2200+ for L10, it's already good.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Gabriel. on 28 01, 2014, 09:03:12 pm
I'm thinking about 150k AP, it isn't easy to get it fast.
But what about the arrests? Make it 3000 arrests or something like that.
I think it should be 2500 arrests and 150k arrest points.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Hello on 28 01, 2014, 09:23:07 pm
If you work hard then you can get 150 k Arrest points or 200 k. Still I am suggesting a new application board for this command. Because criminals can use this command if they meet the requirements. So by this way loyal cops will get this command.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: LIK-JE-SNEE on 28 01, 2014, 09:28:10 pm
If you work hard then you can get 150 k Arrest points or 200 k. Still I am suggesting a new application board for this command. Because criminals can use this command if they meet the requirements. So by this way loyal cops will get this command.

And who will handle the applications?
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Hello on 28 01, 2014, 09:59:52 pm
And who will handle the applications?
Head police chiefs and official law groups' leaders.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: DeadlySehse. on 28 01, 2014, 10:08:02 pm
If you work hard then you can get 150 k Arrest points or 200 k. Still I am suggesting a new application board for this command. Because criminals can use this command if they meet the requirements. So by this way loyal cops will get this command.

It's still not enough, any newbie cop with a powerful pc and good internet can get them in matter of weeks, it's not hard to get these numbers now a days. Already police chiefs has the advantage of /gochief, no one else should be able to do that, as /gomedic isn't abusive as /gocop, it can be abused in many shapes, even if we tried to stop it. The problem is that any requirements you guys will place, it will be achieved easily. Especially after the DM rule was removed and now criminals are more than rice in the streets.




If it gets added, we need something to prevent any abusive use.

: If you use /gocop, you CAN NOT accept bribes for 10-15 minutes.
: You can use /gocop once every 15-30 minutes. (to prevent someone quit the job and able to take it after few secs again) (or quit job to evade an IG situtation (shoot-out with crims) )

That is not enough, how are we going to stop cops who see criminals, then they do /gocop while they are in any other job, or cops who has the medic job for example to trick the criminals, then /gocop...
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 28 01, 2014, 11:20:10 pm
I'm 100% against this suggestion.

I have seen cops who gained around 6-10k AP a day so 100k AP would be way too low.

Also as people have stated it could be easily abused, and it will be I'm sure if you allow normal players who just stat farm to have access to it.

As it is right now, the only people who have access to something like /golaw, /gochief, ect... are people who are very established on the law side, they are people who have worked hard to gain those commands and are trustworthy players who are loyal to the law side.

Same as Dimit (PC's)

Some people and I already said the suggestions to prevent abuse in any situation, so this won't be abused.

People who had access to /gochief can leave the law side too. Also, people who got /gochief are people trusted by 2 or 3 players, being honest.

If it gets added, we need something to prevent any abusive use.

: If you use /gocop, you CAN NOT accept bribes for 10-15 minutes.
: You can use /gocop once every 15-30 minutes. (to prevent someone quit the job and able to take it after few secs again) (or quit job to evade an IG situtation (shoot-out with crims) )

Added

It's still not enough, any newbie cop with a powerful pc and good internet can get them in matter of weeks, it's not hard to get these numbers now a days. Already police chiefs has the advantage of /gochief, no one else should be able to do that, as /gomedic isn't abusive as /gocop, it can be abused in many shapes, even if we tried to stop it. The problem is that any requirements you guys will place, it will be achieved easily. Especially after the DM rule was removed and now criminals are more than rice in the streets.




That is not enough, how are we going to stop cops who see criminals, then they do /gocop while they are in any other job, or cops who has the medic job for example to trick the criminals, then /gocop...

You should say the abusable situations instead of saying that cops will abuse this. Also, read the suggestion, you can see there many solutions to prevent abusable situations.



Guys, stop suggestion to apply for this, this command will be for cops who really patrol and are active in streets, not for the ones that PC's think are ready for the command.

Also, 100k ap is a bit hard and since 2200 arrests are needed for L10 cop, I think is good to have the command. But it can be discussed, just, I need a good reason to increase them.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: FaDy#QQ on 28 01, 2014, 11:30:57 pm
I wanna answer Deadly,
Bro, You don't know our feelings when we see PRO COP/OLD COP = NOOB COP/NEW COP in the abilities
its really annoying
For an example, ME: I'm Very old cop in CIT, and achieved many things as cop
But what is the difference between me and a new cop ? huh ?
Don't tell you could become a chief because everyone knows that it's pretty much hard to get police chief rights
And wanna tell you something, If you were not a police chief, You would support this suggestion to own something in the police side as old cop
Just stop saying it would be abuse-able etc etc
Because there're solutions to prevent being abused
Or say that the requirements easy to be gotten, what is the problem ?? what is your problem ??
its easy to be gotten!! so let us get it....
Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: TommyBoy1998 on 29 01, 2014, 04:16:27 pm
Well,I liked the idea and I upvoted
about the abuse,simple rules like /golaw /gochief that ruels you already mentioned that leads to punishment.

Well, /gochief is only for Police Chiefs of course like, I can use that command but why /gocop? There is already /golaw yes so I prefer this idea but isnt useful enough to upvote it.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: FaDy#QQ on 29 01, 2014, 04:18:31 pm
Well, /gochief is only for Police Chiefs of course like, I can use that command but why /gocop? There is already /golaw yes so I prefer this idea but isnt useful enough to upvote it.
/golaw command being used by the official groups high ranks
not everyone can use it.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: TommyBoy1998 on 29 01, 2014, 04:21:03 pm
/golaw command being used by the official groups high ranks
not everyone can use it.

I know FaDy that it got used by high ranks so that's why this isn't necessary about the idea of /gocop
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cops (L10 cops)
Post by: FaDy#QQ on 29 01, 2014, 04:24:56 pm
I know FaDy that it got used by high ranks so that's why this isn't necessary about the idea of /gocop
Why its not necessary ??
You giving care about the high ranks of official groups
what about the normal cops ?? They had a long time playing as cop and didn't get anything new ??
that is the aim of the suggestion
The NORMAL cops.

EDIT : Sorry i misunderstood your reply :C
But still, I don't know why you talking about the /golaw
We are talking about a command for the normal cops!! not high ranks!
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: DeRip. on 30 01, 2014, 12:05:19 am
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•You can't use it when you are near a wanted criminal.
That would be a problem, you can always use your jetpack and go away then use /gocop and come back for the criminal also LS full of wanted players so it will be always annoying for us if we're trying to use it while a wanted criminal near us.
we could replace it with:-
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You can't arrest any wanted criminal for X mins when u use /gocop
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Mukhtar on 30 01, 2014, 03:27:55 am
That would be a problem, you can always use your jetpack and go away then use /gocop and come back for the criminal also LS full of wanted players so it will be always annoying for us if we're trying to use it while a wanted criminal near us.
we could replace it with:-
It can be abused by criminals friend. They will go cop and arrest their friends in those x mints to save them from other cops.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Dimit on 31 01, 2014, 01:57:05 am
That would be a problem, you can always use your jetpack and go away then use /gocop and come back for the criminal also LS full of wanted players so it will be always annoying for us if we're trying to use it while a wanted criminal near us.
we could replace it with:-


under those circumstances, unable to get a kill arrest, nightstick arrest or bribe someone for a strict timelimit, the feature can basically not be abused anymore I guess. (Or hope)
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 31 01, 2014, 02:04:13 am

under those circumstances, unable to get a kill arrest, nightstick arrest or bribe someone for a strict timelimit, the feature can basically not be abused anymore I guess. (Or hope)

I can't understand what you are suggesting, cops can do their job after using /gocop? No need, this won't prevent any abusable situation, it will just make it worse.

Also, all abusable situations were solved by those restrictions added.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Jamie on 31 01, 2014, 03:28:04 am
Seems like a good idea with a few checks it won't be abusable.
You have my approval. Nice suggestion
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Evil4N on 31 01, 2014, 03:31:56 am
Upvoted, good suggestion. About time we have something like this.


under those circumstances, unable to get a kill arrest, nightstick arrest or bribe someone for a strict timelimit, the feature can basically not be abused anymore I guess. (Or hope)

civilians who use /criminal to free their arrested-friends is propably not abuse either ? The hypocrisy...
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Master. on 31 01, 2014, 10:25:56 am
Upvoted, good suggestion. About time we have something like this.

civilians who use /criminal to free their arrested-friends is propably not abuse either ? The hypocrisy...
Actually police can not directly go crimininal. And what do you mean they can go criminal to free their arrested "Friends" ? It's their choise to jail or not to jail the arrested player, if he breaks any rules, we got our police chiefs and if theyre releasing high wanted level criminal, another cops would just easily come and arrest that guy. That one, who arrested his Friend, can't do /gocop, because he's near the wanted criminal.

Oh, and why not to add "You can't arrest the same player that you released" ? To prevent possibly abuse, after you did /gocop I mean.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Dimit on 31 01, 2014, 11:40:10 pm
Upvoted, good suggestion. About time we have something like this.

civilians who use /criminal to free their arrested-friends is propably not abuse either ? The hypocrisy...

A cop can become unloyal in reallife aswell and point his gun suddenly on his own rows.
It makes him wanted, and without alternatives jailed after a while.

Being a cop is a privilege status and gets you rewarded by arresting a target, with the command you get unfair advantage to achieve that reward.
So it IS abuse.
Thats why I said a timelimit to be unable to arrest for a couple of time after entering that command should be added, which can be theoretically added to /golaw and /gochief aswell if wished by the admins, because if they are not supposed to misuse the command and arrest someone shortly after switching to that job, it doesnt harm them being actually unable to do it anyways, is it?
/golaw and /gochief players basically are trustable enough not to abuse it anyways but checking the list of players who meet the requirements for this /gocop command, adding the arresting timelimit for like 60 seconds is REALLY essential to make sure that feature doesnt have any negative influences on the gameplay and can be added without causing problems.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Ex_TcR on 03 02, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
actually, some of current criminals are having L10Police Stats, they can abuse it and can use the command to help their Criminals mates anyhow. I am neutral because Police chiefs can sack them if they abuse their cop job.

Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Master. on 03 02, 2014, 04:59:44 pm
actually, some of current criminals are having L10Police Stats, they can abuse it and can use the command to help their Criminals mates anyhow. I am neutral because Police chiefs can sack them if they abuse their cop job.
They may have 2200 arrests, but I doubt it. Even if they do, max. arrest points of any old cop criminal is 70,000. Anyways, you just answered to your question, if they'll abuse it, police chiefs can sack them, what's the problem then?
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Stryder. on 03 02, 2014, 05:04:42 pm
actually, some of current criminals are having L10Police Stats, they can abuse it and can use the command to help their Criminals mates anyhow. I am neutral because Police chiefs can sack them if they abuse their cop job.

Actually, thanks to the ways to prevent abuse I added, there is no way this can be abused. Read the coments from the other Pólice Chief's majority of them say that this can be abused without any reasons, if you are going to say it too, at least say how.
Title: Re: /gocop for Chief Constable cop (L10)
Post by: Arran on 19 02, 2014, 06:03:28 pm
Added.