I don't know, administration only can help you, you did the tests in your local server. They should test them in the test server which is similar like CIT I guess with same armor/drug system etc. At current system, everyone spamming M4/AK and nothing can do, when both have armor. So a reduce to clips will be good and encourage players to aim or use other weapons
I didn't test in my local server, re read my suggestion again, I did all the testings in the server with drugs and armor, I have proposed to reduce the damage of the spammed weapons so there should be less spam since you will have a chance to out damage them with combat shotgun or regular shotgun
I believe you but this is serious upgrade and only administration can approve it after their own tests
Back in the time, LS and LV Combat style meta ( In the world of gaming, meta can be used as an acronym for “most effective tactics available,” ) used to be the same, even if the gameplay was different, such as the speed of the gameplay. After years have passed by the CIT Weapons meta has evolved and various updates were introduced to the server. However I am not happy how that went to, since nowadays weapons meta is all about spamming weapons which have high fire rate, such as Minigun, M4 or Tec-9, these weapons are heavily overpowered for people who have good computers, since higher FPS means higher fire rate. From my point of view weapons meta should be something about skill and ability to aim rather than to spam one weapon and easily kill new players who have no clue what is happening in the server. Me myself and a lot of older players of the server would agree, that the weapon meta that existed back in 2012 was much better and more skill advanced than it is now. Current system is based on holding your finger and spam either AK or MP5, you would not be able to run anyways and get killed. New players who still do not know about drugs have a hard time killing someone or escpaing from someone, which makes not stay in the server for a long time ( Why would anyone stay in the server if all they do is dying and being unable to kill someone? That's not fun... )Here I would like to provide some statistical data to prove my that my statements are true.56% of the players have less FPS than 50, which means that 44% players have fps above 50, which makes the statement that more thanm half of the players are having lower fps which makes their shooting slower.Proofs : Show contentThe most used weapons are mostly the most overpowered because it is easiest to kill with themProofs :Show contentI have tested each weapons damage with and without drugs and the kill time when shooting to the body, keep in mind that when shooting to the head it's even 25% faster which makes high accuracy weapons like m4 very easy to hit headshots.Here are the results of my testings :Show contentBasically it does show that weapons like Tec9, m4, uzi, ak47 are the fastest ones to kill someone.Here are the changes I would like to see implemented that I believe would make CIT better : New Tec9Show contentDouble Tec9 - 9Double Tec9 against drugs - 5Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~3.204New UziShow contentDouble Uzi - 9Double Uzi against drugs - 5Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 03.536New M4Show contentM4 - 11M4 against drugs - 7Accuracy worse by 20%Clip size : 35 bulletsTime to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 03.704New AK-47Show contentak47 - 11ak47 against drugs - 7Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 02.961New ShotgunShow contentShotgun - 50Shotgun against Drugs - 33 Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 03.772New MinigunShow contentMinigun - 5Minigun against drugs - 4Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 04.801The proposal was brought to you by @JayXxX and @noD3 councillor's agenda
Each weapon is independent of other weapons so can't be merged in to 1 topic.Proposal lacks information on what percentage increase or decrease the damage should be changed by:Double Tec9 - 9That is completely meaningless to me.
I will update it with the percentage decrease to the weapons damage. Should I open 6 different topics for each weapon or make a voting options, such as listing every weapon, from 1 to 6, which I am proposing to change and start the vote asking councillors to which of the weapons change they do agree to be changed? 6 Different topics would create even more proposals in the board and there is quite a lot of them already.
Back in the time, LS and LV Combat style meta ( In the world of gaming, meta can be used as an acronym for “most effective tactics available,” ) used to be the same, even if the gameplay was different, such as the speed of the gameplay. After years have passed by the CIT Weapons meta has evolved and various updates were introduced to the server. However I am not happy how that went to, since nowadays weapons meta is all about spamming weapons which have high fire rate, such as Minigun, M4 or Tec-9, these weapons are heavily overpowered for people who have good computers, since higher FPS means higher fire rate. From my point of view weapons meta should be something about skill and ability to aim rather than to spam one weapon and easily kill new players who have no clue what is happening in the server. Me myself and a lot of older players of the server would agree, that the weapon meta that existed back in 2012 was much better and more skill advanced than it is now. Current system is based on holding your finger and spam either AK or MP5, you would not be able to run anyways and get killed. New players who still do not know about drugs have a hard time killing someone or escpaing from someone, which makes not stay in the server for a long time ( Why would anyone stay in the server if all they do is dying and being unable to kill someone? That's not fun... )Here I would like to provide some statistical data to prove my that my statements are true.56% of the players have less FPS than 50, which means that 44% players have fps above 50, which makes the statement that more thanm half of the players are having lower fps which makes their shooting slower.Proofs : Show contentQuote*** Frames Per Second ***Below 10: 333Below 20: 123Below 30: 237Below 40: 335Below 50: 589Above 50: 1267The most used weapons are mostly the most overpowered because it is easiest to kill with themProofs :Show contentQuote*** Amount of deaths for each weapon (outside LV)***M4: 9492Shotgun: 4191Sniper: 4039Minigun: 3580AK-47: 2918I have tested each weapons damage with and without drugs and the kill time when shooting to the body, keep in mind that when shooting to the head it's even 25% faster which makes high accuracy weapons like m4 very easy to hit headshots.Here are the results of my testings :Show contentQuoteCIT Weapons Damage------------------Colts - 20Colts against drugs - 16Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 06.400 seconds------------------Deagle - 47Deagle against drugs - 34Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.833 seconds-----------------Combat Shotgun - 40Combat Shotgun against drugs - 29Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.352 seconds-----------------Shotgun - 60Shotgun against Drugs - 43 Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.072 seconds-----------------Single Sawn Off - 50Single Sawn Off against Drugs - 36Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 06.720 seconds-----------------Double Sawn Off - 47Double Sawn Off against Drugs - 40 Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 09.698 seconds-----------------Mp5 - 10Mp5 against drugs - 7Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.778 seconds-----------------Double Tec9 - 14Double Tec9 against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 02.497 seconds-----------------Double Uzi - 14Double Uzi against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.136 seconds-----------------M4 - 14M4 against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.104 seconds-----------------ak47 - 14ak47 against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 02.661 seconds-----------------Sniper - 60Sniper against drugs - 43Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 05.730 seconds-----------------Rifle - 32Rifle against drugs - 23Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.482 seconds-----------------Minigun - 7Minigun against drugs - 6Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.097 seconds-----------------Basically it does show that weapons like Tec9, m4, uzi, ak47 are the fastest ones to kill someone.Here are the changes I would like to see implemented that I believe would make CIT better : New Tec9Show contentCurrent Tec9 damage - 7 HitpointsProposed Tec9 damage - 4.5 HitpointsTec9 damage should decrease by 35%Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~3.204 secondsNew UziShow contentCurrent Uzi damage - 7 hitpointsProposed Uzi damage - 4.5 HitpointsUzi damage should be decreased by 35%Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 03.536 secondsNew M4Show contentCurrent M4 damage - 14 hitpointsProposed M4 damage - 10 hitpointsM4 damage should be decreased by 28%Accuracy should be worse by 20%Clip size should be changed to 35 bullets from 50 bullets.Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 03.704 secondsNew AK-47Show contentCurrent AK47 damage - 14 hitpointsProposed AK47 damage - 10 hitpointsAK47 damage should be decreased by 28%Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 03.101 secondsNew ShotgunShow contentCurrent Shotgun damage - 60 hitpointsProposed Shotgun damage - 50 hitpointsShotgun damage should be decreased by 16.6%Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 03.772 secondsNew MinigunShow contentCurrent Minigun Damage - 7 hitpointsProposed Minigun Damage - 5 hitpointsMinigun damage sohuld be decreased by 28%Time to kill against drugs and full armor : Around ~ 04.801 secondsThe proposal was brought to you by @JayXxX and @noD3 councillor's agenda
*** Frames Per Second ***Below 10: 333Below 20: 123Below 30: 237Below 40: 335Below 50: 589Above 50: 1267
*** Amount of deaths for each weapon (outside LV)***M4: 9492Shotgun: 4191Sniper: 4039Minigun: 3580AK-47: 2918
CIT Weapons Damage------------------Colts - 20Colts against drugs - 16Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 06.400 seconds------------------Deagle - 47Deagle against drugs - 34Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.833 seconds-----------------Combat Shotgun - 40Combat Shotgun against drugs - 29Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.352 seconds-----------------Shotgun - 60Shotgun against Drugs - 43 Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.072 seconds-----------------Single Sawn Off - 50Single Sawn Off against Drugs - 36Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 06.720 seconds-----------------Double Sawn Off - 47Double Sawn Off against Drugs - 40 Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 09.698 seconds-----------------Mp5 - 10Mp5 against drugs - 7Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.778 seconds-----------------Double Tec9 - 14Double Tec9 against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 02.497 seconds-----------------Double Uzi - 14Double Uzi against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.136 seconds-----------------M4 - 14M4 against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 03.104 seconds-----------------ak47 - 14ak47 against drugs - 10Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 02.661 seconds-----------------Sniper - 60Sniper against drugs - 43Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 05.730 seconds-----------------Rifle - 32Rifle against drugs - 23Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.482 seconds-----------------Minigun - 7Minigun against drugs - 6Time to kill against drugs and full armor : 04.097 seconds-----------------
M4, AK47, Tec9, Uzi, Shotgun, Minigun
Shotgun damage and AK are really Op, people are spamming them non stop, I wish to see their damage getting reduced.
@CyraX Since the proposal is for the M4, AK47, Tec9, Uzi, Shotgun and Minigun do you feel that only Shotgun and AK's damage should be changed or you think all of these weapons damage should be reduced by a little bit?
The ones I mentioned are kinda used the most, and you can't face people who are carrying ak or shotgun with weapons you just mentioned. We could make a decrease for these ones right now and see if it will work fine when testing other weapons against those 2 after getting reduced.