may u give me any reasons of removing ls turfs? ls turfs got nothing to do with CnR lol it's never effect it everybody's free to use /gangster or /criminal or /go police officer so pls don't blame ls turfs or us (gangsters) cuz CEs died or (CnR) thats none of our business that peoples enjoy ls turfs more than playing at bored CEs go suggest how to improve CEs intsead of removing the feature (ls turfs/wars) which peoples enjoying it more than ur gameplay (CEs/riots)
What's the point of keep attending CE/AR all the time? Individuals can do it without entering such a group. LS is not made only for robberies.Try to make changes in LV to attract players rather than removing major players' areas of interest.
make changes in LV like what sir? Removing fast switch and destroying it again? We all saw that when it got removed it was empty, no wars.So please tell me what changes we should make to suggest it
Finally someone said it, Ls is going toxic day by day since this Ls turfs system got added The team chat become a war zone people are talking badly all day long and groups start having gang wars. you can't even enjoy the criminal life. criminals are turning into gangsters the criminal events players are decreasing everyday and we have a huge problems in getting criminals to riots because they are busy turfing or trolling, and of course the biggest problem here is that Ls is now full of many abusers from Lv. They are exploiting and making it hard for Ls players and that's unfair we really need to separate Lv things from the Ls life like before.
What I find funny is rather than admit that riots/CEs/ARL are becoming boring and repetitive and find new and creative ways to engage players, the CB team just blame their pitfalls on LS turfs and other things and request that they be removed. The real thing that should be removed is the CB team because it currently contributes nothing.
Dude we don't really need to remove CB Team they are supposed to be the ones who lead us so let it be, there are lots of CBs those who actually are really good I won't say bad things to any CB I respect them all I'd happily do anything for them but removing LS turfs? That is a thing I would definitely never support
Hello, this suggestion has been made countless times and it has always been locked even though it reached a decent amount of votes. Last time it was locked because a certain LV player suggested it and Arran didn't seem quite convinced so he locked it by saying.Let me break it down for you. LV has a lower player count because the LV players which couldn't compete in LV decided to move to LS because it would be easier for them to claim turfs. This is the real reason, they might hide between lies but the thing is that they can't do nothing in LV so they decided to come in LS.Secondly, no. It wouldn't make sense to remove the LV turfs because since a very long time LV has been known as the city of turfing and LS was known as the CnR city.Let's take it step by step.LS Before and After:LS used to be a Cops and Robbers city. People in the team chat used to make riot plans and strategies in order to fight cops. Right now, the criminal chat has changed to a level of toxicity that we've only seen back in the days in LV. People understand the rules and they don't flame but it doesn't mean that without flame there is no toxicity. People fighting each other over which group took takeover and which didnt, people fighting for which one is the most skilled, people talking about how they "rekt" x player and how "x" player is lagging and the list goes on. I am SICK of this kind of behaviour and I guess I am not the only one. Sometimes I involve myself too in this type of chats because it gets annoying to see how toxic the Criminal Team chat has became.Let's take it from a perspective of an old criminal leader/founder of a group which is not entirely good at combat and exploiting tactics. He logs in, his base gets invaded by 13 years old kids which turf 24/7 and he cannot fight them because they keep coming over and over again. This is amazingly annoying. Even in LV the base attacks are punishable. What will the guy do? Obviously just quit the game since he is aware that he would have to fight for serveral hours to protect his base. Why would a normal person with a job and real life issues spend his time in a game where all he has to do is fight over a turf? That's right, he wouldn't.There are alot of old criminals that left because they see no hope anymore in the current system. Back then, the groups were mostly reviewed on their behaviour and their contributions to the criminal side. Now, it doesn't matter anymore. As long as you have a group which turfs 24/7 why would you need that? The people will join your group anyway because you are constantly having many turfs which is a source of income for the players. The thing that annoys me is that it doesn't matter the group quality as long as you have got the quantity and the combat power. It doesn't matter if you're smart or not, all it matters is that you can kill a player in an 1v1 fight. THIS is the LV mentality and it should be OUT of LS.Regarding the CnR, it just became a "side mission". CnR teams balance based on the amount of players that are turfing. If there are big "wars" in LS then cops would easly win every single CE. If there is no "war" then the criminals might actually have a chance to fight the cops (that in case the "criminals" of the "official crimianl groups" don't play as cops).LV Before and AfterLV used to be the place where it doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't prove it in combat. After the addition of the LS turfs, the weak LV groups tried moving into LS to prove they are strong and by time, LV became empty. I respect how LV works but the addition of the LS turfs made some groups move in LS and share their toxicity in the criminal chat. Back then LV used to have alot of groups, alliances, big wars. Now, if you gather all the active groups in LV you might notice that it is the number of groups a LV alliance used to have. LV was not ruined by the players, LV was ruined by the updates that gave the LV players the chance to play in LS and ruin the old LS players experience. Besides this, with the addition of fastswitch in LS, it became an easier job for the exploiters to gain unfair advantages so why would they move back to LV? Why not to continue ruining the criminals experience with their toxicity? That's their hobby, they enjoy it.Now, you might say that the old criminals left CIT because the game is getting old but, HOW do you explain that CIT is barelly reaching top 5 in the servers top when it used to be number 1? HOW? You knew from the beginning that the addition of LS turfs would bring a drastic change to the server and you still went through with it. This is the result of countless suggestions on bringing back the old LS and even though they have been ignored so fast, people are still suggesting it.About Arran's reply, how comes that people in LV never suggested a change there? It is because THEY LIKE IT. This is why we keep suggesting the removal of LS turfs, because WE DON'T LIKE the current state of LS and we would like to return back to our previous state of a CRIMINAL TEAM."like it being part of the rest of the server again"The removal of the LS turfs would make LS be part of the server again. We didn't reach those 1400 players peak in this system.This will be my last attempt of making things right regarding the CnR suggestions as suggesting anything won't matter anymore. People would still be concentraded on this stupid turfing system and they will continue ignoring any further update regarding LS.
Finally a LS leader sees my perspective. LV was always the city of no laws and gangwars. LS turfs although it can be fun is not as fun as LV turfs. LS should be a city of CnR (Cops and Robbers) just as how we have SF dedicated to being a city of civilian workers. I personally left LV because of toxic retards and I was tired of the same toxicity everyday and now LS is full of more toxic retards than LV because no one really plays in LV anymore. A few days ago there were 164 people in the server, 24 of them were in LV and 13 of the 24 were in the same group with the rest of people from various groups including their allies were afk in LV.