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Dear CIT Community,
The suggestion has been changed so read again.
I want to see my last punishments. So The command must be added back.We will see only own punishments with the /punishlog command.
/punishlog
We can use our punishments history with the command. So we can check our last punishment's date . This is needed us when we made a apply for a group or duty. We need to ask staffs for learn last punishment's date, so this is hard way. We can choose easy way. /punishlog command is enough.
I want to explain more but I dont want to use unnecessary words. This is enough for the suggestion. '' We must to know our last punishment date so we need to show our punishments.''
It may get add again if there a command show last punish date , For example /punishlog his last punish date ,
/lastpunish ----> date appears -----> then you are done , better than showing all his punishes
Make San Andreas Great Again !
Best regards sincerely,
Pavard.
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I was going to make thing like that but from command like for group '/gmp', but command for everyone to see anyone in-game got any punishments called '/punishments' and from this command you will open list to (name,group,squad,reason,how many mins, who gived him this punish) from who got this punishment, but anyway if we add thing in "J > Punishments" as you said not bad too, anyway i'm with you in this thing so much and for sure giving you my Positive vote. :tick:
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Definitely a good idea. People could see why they used to be punished by the /punishlog command. In chat, those who was punished and for what reason were punished in the conversation. It would be nice to see something like this again.
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No, It was disabled for other players for a reason, I think it got disabled because players used to laugh on someone's punishment and provoke him/her. I'm not really sure but they disabled it for a reason, I stated one of the major reasons it could be disabled for. Furthermore, I'm voting negative because as I stated it'll increase toxicity and players will start provoking each other for being punished.
I was going to make thing like that but from command like for group '/gmp', but command for everyone to see anyone in-game got any punishments called '/punishments' and from this command you will open list to (name,group,squad,reason,how many mins, who gived him this punish) from who got this punishment, but anyway if we add thing in "J > Punishments" as you said not bad too, anyway i'm with you in this thing so much and for sure giving you my Positive vote. :tick:
You're just farming posts, you didn't even understand a single thing from his suggestion. He wants the punishments visible for everyone, his suggestion is not about adding a seperate GUI for it. Neither Cristiano understands it.
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You are right guys but, this is not showing punishments in global chats. But we cant see our punishlog or any punishment. Maybe they can add a section in J like Join-Quit . Also Cristiano's idea too good. Every duties requesting non punishment in last 1 month or etc. but we cant see punishments. We must to know our last punishments.
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You're just farming posts, you didn't even understand a single thing from his suggestion. He wants the punishments visible for everyone, his suggestion is not about adding a seperate GUI for it. Neither Cristiano understands it.
bro first if you think i'm just farming posts I swear to you i'm not just I want post my opinion about any suggestin anyway thats you opinion for me and I should thank you for that
and I think you didnt see what I said cuz I said in first "i was going make thing like that from ....." so just I was explaining what I was going to do and in last told him anyway i'm with you and gived him my vote and want you know I swear I know what he said just I did post with abother idea, anyway as I said before thank you.
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In case you got a punish, do you want players to see your punishment? of course no because you feel shame on that and people laughing in your punishment. :cros:
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In case you got a punish, do you want players to see your punishment? of course no because you feel shame on that and people laughing in your punishment. :cros:
As Haisum said people will start laughing at players when they get punished so this don't need to get added as there is not even a good reason why it have to be added. My vote is negative. :cros:
No, It was disabled for other players for a reason, I think it got disabled because players used to laugh on someone's punishment and provoke him/her. I'm not really sure but they disabled it for a reason, I stated one of the major reasons it could be disabled for. Furthermore, I'm voting negative because as I stated it'll increase toxicity and players will start provoking each other for being punished.
You're just farming posts, you didn't even understand a single thing from his suggestion. He wants the punishments visible for everyone, his suggestion is not about adding a seperate GUI for it. Neither Cristiano understands it.
why you think only give a vote ? did you read posts or updates in suggestion ? Just you told other's comment. Why you posted Haisum's words ?
3- /punishlog command
Also Cristiano's idea too good. Every duties requesting non punishment in last 1 month or etc. but we cant see punishments. We must to know our last punishments.
Also did you know old rules ? No one can laugh to a punishment. Just writeng for post count. This is a /punishlog command suggestion.
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Adding back /punishlog to check our punishements is enough. No need to see other players got punished.
In case you got a punish, do you want players to see your punishment? of course no because you feel shame on that and people laughing in your punishment. :cros:
Players must be shamed how they broke a rule, not because ppl laugh.
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Even though when punishment lines were available for everyone, players didn't stop getting more of them just because they were able to see others getting punished. That's why I think it will be the same nowadays, which means that your only argument to add this back is not valid. Instead, as I can see in the current state of admin log, punishments for laughing/talking about others' are almost no longer a thing. So adding this back would bring nothing other than toxicity and hatred.
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Give more details in your topic or I'll lock it.
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Even though when punishment lines were available for everyone, players didn't stop getting more of them just because they were able to see others getting punished. That's why I think it will be the same nowadays, which means that your only argument to add this back is not valid. Instead, as I can see in the current state of admin log, punishments for laughing/talking about others' are almost no longer a thing. So adding this back would bring nothing other than toxicity and hatred.
We will see only own punishments with the /punishlog command. This is not about toxicity and hatred.
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We will see only own punishments with the /punishlog command. This is not about toxicity and hatred.
My post was submitted before you decided to edit your suggestion out of nowhere with such careless effort which is not okay.
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That would be a good thing to have once again, sometimes when official groups leaders are handling applications, they can't know if the applicant is a rulebreaker or not since they have no access to check that. And sometimes I would like to check when was my last punishment instead of asking a staff.
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To make this clear old command has been removed for reasons , Why you want it add it back? when they remove this command a lot of could join official groups
My point is if you add this again what is the benefit ? if you are talking about group leaders etc .. , then why you don't ask your group mates / players about this guy?
It may get add again if there a command show last punish date , For example /punishlog his last punish date ,
/lastpunish ----> date appears -----> then you are done , better than showing all his punishes
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To make this clear old command has been removed for reasons , Why you want it add it back? when they remove this command a lot of could join official groups
My point is if you add this again what is the benefit ? if you are talking about group leaders etc .. , then why you don't ask your group mates / players about this guy?
It may get add again if there a command show last punish date , For example /punishlog his last punish date ,
/lastpunish ----> date appears -----> then you are done , better than showing all his punishes
This is so good, other punishments not important. Only last punishment is important for us , you are right. I added this section to suggestion.
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why you think only give a vote ? did you read posts or updates in suggestion ? Just you told other's comment. Why you posted Haisum's words ?
Also did you know old rules ? No one can laugh to a punishment. Just writeng for post count. This is a /punishlog command suggestion.
Are you kidding on us? You completely changed your topic from showing the punishment on main chat or press J > punishment to see recent punished players and you changed it to /punshlog command which you have to open a new topic on it and request lock old one. You changed it after an hour from my viewpoint.
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Are you kidding on us? You completely changed your topic from showing the punishment on main chat or press J > punishment to see recent punished players and you changed it to /punshlog command which you have to open a new topic on it and request lock old one. You changed it after an hour from my viewpoint.
This is not after 1 hours. This is different timezones. Sorry for the update but the suggestion is better than old now.
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I'd love to have this back, makes applying for groups a lot more stricter as well as for squads. Idk about people being toxic tho, considering it was removed due to "people being stressed out" but maybe it was also for others being toxic. :cros:
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Its actually a something were good back then and it will be great to get it back since we don't have to ask a staff and bothering him to check our punishlog while used to be able to check it .. UP vote for sure ... !
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Adding back /punishlog to check our punishements is enough. No need to see other players got punished. Players must be shamed how they broke a rule, not because ppl laugh.
I think it's a good idea. I would also like to see my history of punishment easily.
I don't see what the problem is in seeing other people's punishment history.
With this we can see the history of each person requesting to enter a group.We could avoid the entry of players who suddenly had penalties for scam other players, bad behavior, etc.
Most applications have the question of "If they agree to respect the rules of CIT", and most say "YES", but that question is the "accept" button when they install something ...(And most of the reported players belong to some group).
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No, It was disabled for other players for a reason, I think it got disabled because players used to laugh on someone's punishment and provoke him/her. I'm not really sure but they disabled it for a reason, I stated one of the major reasons it could be disabled for. Furthermore, I'm voting negative because as I stated it'll increase toxicity and players will start provoking each other for being punished.
You're just farming posts, you didn't even understand a single thing from his suggestion. He wants the punishments visible for everyone, his suggestion is not about adding a seperate GUI for it. Neither Cristiano understands it.
Suggest a new suggestion. Stop arguing with people.
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positive here, good idea will get in handy and as it's for unmature players, they don't laugh anymore on such things like that, however if he laughs he will be punished.
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It was disabled for the same reason you are suggesting it for now which is to allow groups decide about the applicants based on their punishment and made groups more restricted.
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- As many players get anxiety about being punished (groups are too strict) removed '/punishlog' and 'Admin Log'. (Arran)
This is why it got removed, if you wanted to apply for something, you should know that you musn't be rulebreaker
The majority of CIT players nowadays are awake, they are mature enough I guess
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We can use our punishments history with the command. So we can check our last punishment's date . This is needed us when we made a apply for a group or duty. We need to ask staffs for learn last punishment's date, so this is hard way. We can choose easy way. /punishlog command is enough.
This was removed for the exact reason, that players shouldn't worry about their punishments while applying to groups. You shouldn't ask admins for that is not one of their tasks.
- As many players get anxiety about being punished (groups are too strict) removed '/punishlog' and 'Admin Log'. (Arran)
@Jonio
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This was removed for the exact reason, that players shouldn't worry about their punishments while applying to groups. You shouldn't ask admins for that is not one of their tasks.@Jonio
Seems you are mentioning Jonio to lock this topic, don't. Maybe arran has changed his mind who knows. Anyway, /punishlog is not only made for groups like you said, we need it too when applying to CS/Staff/CB/CEM or any other X duty. For example I got muted on X date, and I should apply after 14 days. We need to know how many days left to apply. I don't want to bother staff asking him to check the day I was punished. It's MINE, MY PUNISHEMENTS and I have the right to check it by MY SELF. Players still discussing.
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hello everyone
My opinion about this suggestion : it should be back once again why because sometimes my leaders or any others groups leaders, didn't see that punishment line . so how they know if i'm mute or jailed, if a staff give me 10 mins mute or 1 hour so I can stay afk in my house till my times mute ended to not let my leaders know if i'm mute and also there's a rules, say you can't Laughing on a players mute or jailed, so my vote's positive
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Seems you are mentioning Jonio to lock this topic, don't. Maybe arran has changed his mind who knows. Anyway, /punishlog is not only made for groups like you said, we need it too when applying to CS/Staff/CB/CEM or any other X duty. For example I got muted on X date, and I should apply after 14 days. We need to know how many days left to apply. I don't want to bother staff asking him to check the day I was punished. It's MINE, MY PUNISHEMENTS and I have the right to check it by MY SELF. Players still discussing.
Well, I mentioned Jonio because I need to know his input of this, not to lock.
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This was removed due to some of the players don't like seeing their punishment(s) especially if they have been punished a lot which make them feel pressure and stressed watching it. Why do you have to add this again as this was already removed before? Also, J>Punishment to be able to see other player who got punished, which can't be really added due to some player(s) who will laugh if the person they reported got punished. Not likely to be added for that purposes. Also, you deliberately changed the J>Punishment to /punishlog now which is something that I caught earlier before you changed it. Anyway, I partially like the idea to be able to see someone's history if they ever happen to apply to a Higher Level Group in the future, but then again we have this command /gmp which we will know who got punished last time. Neutral.
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This was removed due to some of the players don't like seeing their punishment(s) especially if they have been punished a lot which make them feel pressure and stressed watching it. Why do you have to add this again as this was already removed before? Also, J>Punishment to be able to see other player who got punished, which can't be really added due to some player(s) who will laugh if the person they reported got punished. Not likely to be added for that purposes. Also, you deliberately changed the J>Punishment to /punishlog now which is something that I caught earlier before you changed it. Anyway, I partially like the idea to be able to see someone's history if they ever happen to apply to a Higher Level Group in the future, but then again we have this command /gmp which we will know who got punished last time. Neutral.
They can follow rules so they do not need to feel pressure and stressed. The command removed before because rulebreakers need to feel good? Why other players feels pressure and stressed? example, I got a 3min mute for fail message but I think I need to check the punishment's date (except asking staffs). We not need to see everyone's punishments, its right but we need to see own punishments.
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They can follow rules so they do not need to feel pressure and stressed. The command removed before because rulebreakers need to feel good? Why other players feels pressure and stressed? example, I got a 3min mute for fail message but I think I need to check the punishment's date (except asking staffs). We not need to see everyone's punishments, its right but we need to see own punishments.
I am not entirely sure if you understand my point, but okay. :fp:
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Positive:tick: for this
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This was removed due to some of the players don't like seeing their punishment(s) especially if they have been punished a lot which make them feel pressure and stressed watching it.
Is there anyone who forces them to check their punishlog if they don't want to? No.
I partially like the idea to be able to see someone's history if they ever happen to apply to a Higher Level Group in the future, but then again we have this command /gmp which we will know who got punished last time.
It's true, we can see members punishments from /gmp in the last 7 days, but we can't see applicants punishments in /gmp, that's the difference.
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Why didn't you create an other topic instead of editing it, you made us all confused, especially the ones who voted before.
By the way, I don't think if Arran's gonna add this feature since he clearly explained it in the update that groups are strict and stuff. I'm voting negative, you can just ask a staff for assistance.
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Why didn't you create an other topic instead of editing it, you made us all confused, especially the ones who voted before.
By the way, I don't think if Arran's gonna add this feature since he clearly explained it in the update that groups are strict and stuff. I'm voting negative, you can just ask a staff for assistance.
you are right about you are confudes now. So can't you understand suggestion ? The suggestion updated after second comment. I always keep update now. What is problem ? Everyone must to check the topics if he voted a suggest. You are not Arran , so you can post your comment and your thinks. also who knows how to read will understand this suggest. I can tell freely, everyone will say '' why you created another topic for same matter '' if I will create another one. What did you read in suggestion informations? just vote about that. Do not think on behalf of others.
It may get add again if there a command show last punish date , For example /punishlog his last punish date ,
/lastpunish ----> date appears -----> then you are done , better than showing all his punishes
Check this and vote again. You are not seems like Quality Manager, so you can specify your comment freely.
We are working on '' make san andreas great again '' like my signature says. The suggestions is important for the community and the community important for us. Thank you for your time.
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you are right about you are confudes now. So can't you understand suggestion ? The suggestion updated after second comment. I always keep update now. What is problem ? Everyone must to check the topics if he voted a suggest. You are not Arran , so you can post your comment and your thinks. also who knows how to read will understand this suggest. I can tell freely, everyone will say '' why you created another topic for same matter '' if I will create another one. What did you read in suggestion informations? just vote about that. Do not think on behalf of others.
Check this and vote again. You are not seems like Quality Manager, so you can specify your comment freely.
We are working on '' make san andreas great again '' like my signature says. The suggestions is important for the community and the community important for us. Thank you for your time.
how does a pubishlog make "San Andreas great again"? Shouldn't we add more interesting and worthy stuff to make it great?! I don't get it, does punish log have anything with making San Andreas great again?! things get better by better features which increases the player count, your post doesn't make any sense.... punish log has nothing to do with it.
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how does a pubishlog make "San Andreas great again"? Shouldn't we add more interesting and worthy stuff to make it great?!
Don't underestimate any suggestion. All suggestion is important for San Andreas. Players always asking questions about last punishments to staffs. Staff sometimes dont care them, also I tried too. I asked on forum to a Staff before applying JCM and PC. I didnt happy when I working for learn punishment date. I will be happy if everyone can learn that easily. '' Happy Players, Great San Andreas ''
your post doesn't make any sense
You want to see more players but you dont want to keep in your hands. Also why you want biggest suggestions ? we need to solve minor and majority problems. I want to repeat again : Dont underestimate any suggestion. I was here when the server was 1200+ player. So tons of player are not important, we must to keep them in server. I know all times of CIT. Thank you for your '' we need tons of player '' idea. I was see them but we need to keep happy our players FIRSTLY.
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After reading all of the comments under this topic, I decided to vote negative. Because server needs more players at the moment and we should consider and ask ourselfs "how this update will effect player count?". Even tough this suggestion might increase general quailty of groups it also will decrease chance of players getting to official groups and it may decrease player count this way. I really want to support your idea but our circumstances prevents me, which is decreasing player count of the server.
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After reading all of the comments under this topic, I decided to vote negative. Because server needs more players at the moment and we should consider and ask ourselfs "how this update will effect player count?". Even tough this suggestion might increase general quailty of groups it also will decrease chance of players getting to official groups and it may decrease player count this way. I really want to support your idea but our circumstances prevents me, which is decreasing player count of the server.
We need to keep our LOYAL players before waiting new players. Our players more important than dreams :fp:
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It's true, we can see members punishments from /gmp in the last 7 days, but we can't see applicants punishments in /gmp, that's the difference.
I already know it is different, but there are these times that Leaders or other members would be able to see the Applicant's punishment (as they will put this in their Application Form(s) if needed) and some were probably gonna talk in private saying, "Oh this guy is bad, has a lot of punishments. We shouldn't accept this one because of his punishment." you know, but considering the /gmp is enough, therefore you could at least warn(s) the players whoever got a punishment(s) by an admin a day(s) ago or a week. But I do hope though, that only yourself can see the punishlog(s) and not by others.
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sometimes I forget when was my last punish. and I don't want to keep asking staff about such things. so getting back the command would be better than the current system tbh. positive.
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I don't mind if players can see their own punishment. However, groups should not request a player punishlog during application.
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I don't mind if players can see their own punishment. However, groups should not request a player punishlog during application.
This is not only for groups. Everyone working for become PC SO CB CS or more. So everyone deserved to know own punishment.
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Never understood why it was removed in the first place, some people look at it to improve where they lack, others look at it to get some sort of nostalgia, so I wouldn't mind it coming back, but it shouldn't be mandatory to request it from an applicant.
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Good idea to make punish log back again like old time, so everyone can see the mistake from punishlog. Upvote :tick:
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Yeah, it is necessary. I need to see last punisment when before I applying to a duty. Anyone doesn't want to rulebreaker players. I am supporting ur idea.
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Seems majority players want to see the suggestion again. Because why I cant see my last punishment? This is my punishment. Players can improve ownself if they can see their punishment. This is not only for me or my post counts. This idea suggested on behalf of majority players.
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Of course, it's already necessary for the Official Groups to check last players' punishments and their logs while they're applying for a group/squad and I don't think the players will use it to laugh at you or like that. And I would like to be a supporter of your suggestion. :tick:
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In case you got a punish, do you want players to see your punishment? of course no because you feel shame on that and people laughing in your punishment. :cros:
Speaking about this part, I remember I had to avoid myself getting punished because I don't wanna see myself getting punished in front of everyone.
That's a good point to show everyone that you got punished so you avoid people laughing and mocking at you.
I totally support having back the old system of punishments especially being able to view the punishment log of your account
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Just hoping they won't put this on their Group Apps or Squad Apps looking for Punishlog or else, you already know what I mean. They'll think it is Mandatory to put this on their Application, which is kinda not a good thing to know. IF they have punishment and not willing to share/link it; then that's their privacy. Don't ask for the /punishlog in their Application and don't make it visible for everyone to see it. At least the owner has the right to know when he was punished before applying to any group(s) or Higher Class Position such as SO, CB, PC, ICM, etc. that requires a decent player who has not punished for example about 2 weeks to 1 month on their rules. This is just my thought of this.
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Hoping it won't be mandatory for everyone to require this punishlog to be seen with the people lurking around.
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Just hoping they won't put this on their Group Apps or Squad Apps looking for Punishlog or else, you already know what I mean.
This is exactly why it got removed
- As many players get anxiety about being punished (groups are too strict) removed '/punishlog' and 'Admin Log'. (Arran)
And no. We can't avoid that. Groups are avoiding trouble makers and if this will be added again in-game, then expect the obvious.
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Why everyone still talking like " I dont wanna see myself getting punishment in front of everyone"
This is only for yourself. The suggestion is " able to see my last punishment with /lastpunish or /punishlog command.
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Why everyone still talking like " I dont wanna see myself getting punishment in front of everyone"
This is only for yourself. The suggestion is " able to see my last punishment with /lastpunish or /punishlog command.
So if he don't wanna see himself getting punishment, what about the forum. They can check it on the forum but we're too lazy to enter the forum then check player's account. we can just do ./punishlog and everything is done.
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I was going to make thing like that but from command like for group '/gmp', but command for everyone to see anyone in-game got any punishments called '/punishments' and from this command you will open list to (name,group,squad,reason,how many mins, who gived him this punish) from who got this punishment, but anyway if we add thing in "J > Punishments" as you said not bad too, anyway i'm with you in this thing so much and for sure giving you my Positive vote. :tick:
I was convinced of that too Positive vote. :tick: :tick:
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Good idea, so they can see their mistakes on /punishlog.
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Every player must see his own /punishlog again. Bringing back this feature is good idea. :tick: from me
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Yes, I agree with you because of we dont know what is last punishlog of ourself. it will be better if it added into the server like old time. Nowadays we can not check it and only Staff check it. If it added so we will know the last punishment and when we should apply for any position/groups/ etc... UPVOTE this.
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This was removed so that players wouldn't have to constantly worry about getting punished and then being unable to join a group because the groups were asking to see punish log.
I want to know @Dimit's opinion as he understands best the implications of these kinds of changes.
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This was removed so that players wouldn't have to constantly worry about getting punished and then being unable to join a group because the groups were asking to see punish log.
I want to know @Dimit's opinion as he understands best the implications of these kinds of changes.
Actually we dont want to see all punishments because it is removed and seems toxic. But we can add only last punishment because everyone asking their last punishments to staffs. They sometimes doesnt get respond after their PMs. The last punishment important when you want to apply for a duty like cs, pc, so etc. This is minimal and important update.
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It was good , I am voting yes for this suggestion. We can see it easy without ask staff.
Edit: wrong word
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This was removed so that players wouldn't have to constantly worry about getting punished and then being unable to join a group because the groups were asking to see punish log.
I want to know @Dimit's opinion as he understands best the implications of these kinds of changes.
They MUST be worried, players HAVE to respect every single rule. Why in the first place groups should invite rule breakers? It will affect the group reputation also by being banned from applying for level promotion.
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Basically the only effect of disabling punishments was to support players who break rules as they now lost their last real reason not to break them, which was that they would disqualify themselves for any group with any basic level of applicant selections. You could already see the negative effects created by this update back then on ramadan, when hundreds of players thought they get higher chances to go to heaven if they /superadvert some religious spam stuff and litterally added "idc about mute <3" at the end, because they know they have no(!) other consequence except for not being able to chat for 5 minutes, punishments are a joke to these people, and durations like "5 minutes" arent going to scare them.
Official groups used to check punishlogs simply because they dont want players like for example HuSeYiN'97, who litterally has like one or two admin punishments per week and nowdays groupleaders couldnt know about that unless they coincidencially saw one of the forum complaints against him.
Groups look for behaved players that dont cause disruption on this server and with higher levels of professionalism the groups also set higher restrictions regarding recent punishments (for obvious reasons), most groups even have clearly written down in their group rules that obeying the server rules is mandatory, which also is the logical explanation for why groups punish their members when they get admin-punished. Obviously now that theres lots of random-inviting going on, this selection process became kinda irrelevant, but speaking of the past, with this simple process my group for example managed to have one of the lowest amounts of staff-punishments over the past 6 years and I dont see how this created a disadvantage for any player, but rather contributed to giving players additional reasons to follow the server rules.
After all my years in the application management I know that all players with recent rulebreaking or grouphopping are repeat offenders, especially those who come up to you like "i swear forget about what happened 3 days ago from now on im starting a new life trust me ive changed now". The only way to be sure about such people is to watch them stay "clean" for a major amount of time, and thats the painful truth for them but thats their fault and not the fault of the groups.
Yes back then there was that argument that there were many "irrelevant" staff-punishments which players could get denied for, like when people used to get muted for writing in the wrong chat accidentially, but then thats the responsibility of the rule system, an offence can not be relevant enough to justify a punishment but at the same time irrelevant enough that a group may not consider it.
Also thats a problem of the past because now the server rules are very lenient and with the new punishment appeal system and IR system, its very hard to get an irrelevant punishment in the first place. Also its not a secret that even entire groups can abuse in the game non stop for months and get away with it so that shows that people need to force it really hard to get an entry into their punishlog nowdays, it doesnt seem like anyone in this game "runs into problems like this beacuse of an accident".
The only remaining place where recent punishments are still seriously considered nowdays are applications for some advanced teams/positions in this server.
For example the PC team, where members have access to powerful features like /mis or sacking powers, has strict restrictions regarding recent punishments and needs additional time in the application reviews asking staff team to check the applicants for recent punishments, which also occupies time ressources of the staff team.
TLDR
- punishlog in applications were the last real motivation for players not to break server rules, removing it just supports worthless continuous rulebreakers which disrupt the server and which groups dont want to have in their F6
- groups still have to punish the group members which break the rules so once these rulebreakers cheated themselves into the group they still get equally sanctioned for their stupidity so they earned nothing except for being in the group a few days and cause disruption before eventually getting kicked, rather than getting denied right away for simply not meeting the IQ standard of this group
- "trivial punishments" which could bring anyone into trouble basically dont exist anymore in 2019 and with the current random inviting even in high leveled groups it wouldnt "restrict" any rulebreaker from joining a high-leveled group easily
- useless administrative chaos whenever a punishlog is required for other purposes
Groups can also request the punishlog via PM or something if applicants are afraid of having their punishlogs (representation of their IQ) leaked to some players they dont like, since official groups are running after players nowdays and not vice-versa, they will not wait long until adding this option
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yea it would be nice to check our punishments like old days +1 :tick:
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+29 votes + Dimit knows best = :tick: