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Ingame Community => News and Updates => Topic started by: psyKapa on 10 12, 2012, 09:04:56 pm
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Have you ever been running after a criminal for tons of time and then a random cop comes and simply kills the wanted? Most of the times they do not even get the arrest due to the new arrest system, so imo it is a abuse.
What if, cops can not make any damage to any criminal unless they have done some violent crime in the past 60 seconds?
It would basically work the same way as the new arrest system works but regarding the damage that a player takes.
So by this, when you are running after a criminal for tons of time and a cop comes and starts shooting just so the criminal dies and spawn in a hospital so they can easily arrest, it wont simply work.
Please let me know if this suggestion can be improved in any manner.
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Good Idea.
-Tazer should work against Criminals, even if they didnt use violent the last 1 Min.
-Destroy Cars, who sit Criminals inside , shouldnt gain Stars and Cop shouldnt lose HP, if the Cop shoot on Criminal.
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great idea but if u increase the time a bit it will be better..
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Good Idea.
-Tazer should work against Criminals, even if they didnt use violent the last 1 Min.
-Destroy Cars, who sit Criminals inside , shouldnt gain Stars and Cop shouldnt lose HP, if the Cop shoot on Criminal.
Of-course that this things will stay, the only thing that should be changed is the damage done to the HP of the criminal while shooting.
It would basically work the same way as the new arrest system works but regarding the damage that a player takes.
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This is a very good idea, random cops will have to turn their brain on and learn how the new arrest system works.
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This is a very good idea, random cops will have to turn their brain on and learn how the new arrest system works.
Not only that but some criminals try to surrender but some cops still kill them just to receive one more death in the stats.
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I suggest it would be a better idea making it 2 mins instead of 1 min. 1 min goes past too fastly.
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I suggest it would be a better idea making it 2 mins instead of 1 min. 1 min goes past too fastly.
That would have to go in another voting.
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Sounds really nice this way we can reduce the kill arrests
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Too good to see a Law trying to do some good for criminals... :)
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Are you trying to say that cops cannot kill wanted criminals unless they've actually done a violent crime to them in the past 60 seconds and can only resort to the tazer until then?
You will only be able to take HP from criminals that have done any kind of violent crimes in the past 60 secs. And yes you should be able to taze them.
Too good to see a Law trying to do some good for criminals... :)
It will benefit both sides.
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Well, I agree that this would help enforce the new arrest system on noobish cops. The problem I have with this is that there are some players that have told me ingame that sometimes, kill arrest has worked on 6 star criminals, even when they haven't committed a violent crime to them in the past 60 secs. But they say that other times, it doesn't work. And this has happened to me as well. I don't know if that's a bug or what.
It is probably a bug since the same happened to me but only in the begining. There was a crim shooting me, when I killed the crim, I got no arrest.
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Well, I agree that this would help enforce the new arrest system on noobish cops. The problem I have with this is that there are some players that have told me ingame that sometimes, kill arrest has worked on 6 star criminals, even when they haven't committed a violent crime to them in the past 60 secs. But they say that other times, it doesn't work. And this has happened to me as well. I don't know if that's a bug or what.
Never happened to me, I've had 6 stars and been killed and haven't gone to jail.
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voted +60 violent act. I think killing a crim just because they are wanted (and you cant kill arrest) it should be counted as DM
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I do agree with this, since I was house robbing yesterday and had 3 stars and was killed over 4 times which adds up to me loosing 5k due to the hours I've played. The cops now are just shooting at you for just getting a single star and it feels as though they are brainless and don't care as to what is going on around them. As one says killing a criminal who hasn't done a violent act should count as DM... well unless they disable damage.
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What if, cops can not make any damage to any criminal unless they have done some violent crime in the past 60 seconds?
Well that's a problem because if cops can't hurt a criminal if they haven't done anything violent you're saying that cops can't hurt anybody (you said "criminal") which means we'd also have to make it so that civilians and such can't hurt anybody either, to have this implemented sensibly.
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Well that's a problem because if cops can't hurt a criminal if they haven't done anything violent you're saying that cops can't hurt anybody (you said "criminal") which means we'd also have to make it so that civilians and such can't hurt anybody either, to have this implemented sensibly.
I think the primary goal of this was to eliminate cops killing wanted players when they haven't committed a violent act. A lot of dumb cops like to kill even the lowest wanted levels, like drug dealers for example, and I think they do this as a way to get away with deathmatching with no consequences. He could've worded it better, but I think that's what he meant, making it so that cops can't damage wanted players unless they've committed a violent act in the past minute.
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I think the primary goal of this was to eliminate cops killing wanted players when they haven't committed a violent act. A lot of dumb cops like to kill even the lowest wanted levels, like drug dealers for example, and I think they do this as a way to get away with deathmatching with no consequences. He could've worded it better, but I think that's what he meant, making it so that cops can't damage wanted players unless they've committed a violent act in the past minute.
Right. Drugdealers, who gain stars, shouldnt be kill-able, because they didnt use violent the last 1 min.
So this Suggestion could work fine.
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Well that's a problem because if cops can't hurt a criminal if they haven't done anything violent you're saying that cops can't hurt anybody (you said "criminal") which means we'd also have to make it so that civilians and such can't hurt anybody either, to have this implemented sensibly.
Arran, sorry for my english mistakes but rusty explained it well.
I think the primary goal of this was to eliminate cops killing wanted players when they haven't committed a violent act. A lot of dumb cops like to kill even the lowest wanted levels, like drug dealers for example, and I think they do this as a way to get away with deathmatching with no consequences. He could've worded it better, but I think that's what he meant, making it so that cops can't damage wanted players unless they've committed a violent act in the past minute.
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Yeah well... but then again, if this is gonna be added then a "violent act" should be when a criminal simply opens fire. Otherwise it's gonna put us (cops) in risk too damn much. I don't really agree with this if the "violent act" does not involve opening fire. I mean it's true that there are Dmer cops that just shoot the suspect but, making cops not able to do nothing isn't the best solution either.
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Yeah well... but then again, if this is gonna be added then a "violent act" should be when a criminal simply opens fire. Otherwise it's gonna put us (cops) in risk too damn much. I don't really agree with this if the "violent act" does not involve opening fire. I mean it's true that there are Dmer cops that just shoot the suspect but, making cops not able to do nothing isn't the best solution either.
If the subject is simply randomly shooting there is no need to kill him, you can use the tazer that will immobilize the suspect for a few seconds giving you the chance to arrest him.
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I for one totally support this.
Cops need to learn the true way of how to arrest.
This will definitely solve the 1* DM problem which police chiefs have had to deal with.
A few cops used the ability to kill star'ed criminals for kdr farming. Now that kdr has been disabled it is now just a fact of people learning how the new system works.
I vote that cops should only be able to,
Kill a criminal when a violent act has been done in the past 60 seconds.
In my opinion in addition to this F1 should be updated heavily.
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If the subject is simply randomly shooting there is no need to kill him, you can use the tazer that will immobilize the suspect for a few seconds giving you the chance to arrest him.
Of course there is! Because they are never randomly shooting, they are always trying to kill you, sometimes they already opened fire looking for you as the target, but you are getting cover behind a wall or something and that's when officers have all the right to take the criminal down. If this is implemented that would mean that officers should get injured first in order to actually take down the suspect.
That's what I said, which puts us in high risk. And no, I'm not gonna use a tazer against a Spas or M4, when I'm in complete danger.
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I really hope soon that cops will kill 1* will be jailed for DM, that is why I support this and voted +60 sec of violent act choice
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Cops don't even try to arrest you. They don't care for getting the max money, just kills. Voted for second option
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Of course I voted for the second option.Nothing's more annoying than you chasing a criminal,all by yourself,getting one or two nightstick hits on him but before being able to arrest him a cop comes and kills that criminal,resulting in you chasing that criminal for nothing.
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This voting as ended and I would like to see some response from a head staff member, I know that it might be needed some scripting, but at least let us know if it as been accepted or not.
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I Voted for "Kill the criminal when violent act has been done in past 60 seconds " because if this be added there won't be abuse from cops side
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i think Kil a Crime at anytime will Make alot of DM , That why i use voting for the Second Answer . Thanks
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Why should cops be restricted to be able to kill criminals when they are shooting while cops can be killed at anytime? I find this bullshit ( unless the rule#1 change was revoked ).
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Why should cops be restricted to be able to kill criminals when they are shooting while cops can be killed at anytime? I find this bullshit ( unless the rule#1 change was revoked ).
it was revoked due to crybaby cops ;p
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it was revoked due to crybaby cops ;p
Crybaby cops? I stated how unbalanced CnR was due to the new Rule #1 change and it was changed.
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Crybaby cops? I stated how unbalanced CnR was due to the new Rule #1 change and it was changed.
the only reason it was revoked because a topic was created about it being unfair and shit (and I doubt crims made that lol)
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I like your idea and this where you said I see it almost every time when I login in game. It would be rather if we only increase the time from 60sec to 1min and 30 secs. Also many cops as you said they care only for the kills and not for the arrests. This is very nervous.
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What would be a violent act? Shooting, or attacking, even if its not a person (such as shooting the air) should be considered as a violent act in this situation.
I also feel with this script, criminals will troll us, just like criminals with VIP land with the jet-packs on our helicopter causing us to die, or when a criminal jumps in front of our vehicle, causing us to loss hp.
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I agree with option 2. I think perhaps the most obvious sign that cops abuse this is when they end up firing more ammo at me to kill me for a 1 star than they could possibly obtain in cash for an arrest. At that point you can tell they're not killing for their job.
In my view it's done as a butthurt move for when they failed to arrest, or when they don't want to actually chase down somebody, but would prefer to just troll them by the free kill.
And I'll note that the majority of my wanted levels are obtained by either robbing or drug dealing. This really doesn't warrant the amount of violence I get for it from cops oftentimes, especially when you account for things like vehicle damage, etc. I've had cops wreck my car completely and kill me over a 1 star. It's rather absurd.
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Thinking about this though, would this be implemented in such a way to allow criminal vehicles to be shot? Something many have resorted to arrest me have been to shoot up my bike to get me off that first, then try the arrest, or more commonly, just kill me. There is a lot of complication to the, "No car DM'ing" thing.
Having played both sides, though been on criminal more, I think it's fair to say that the option to shoot up a car should be left in. Sometimes there is just no other sensible way to approach a high star criminal.