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Title: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 23 12, 2021, 09:01:02 pm
As the title says, adding a duty that will be responsible for map editing in LV as nobody wants to work on it from current map editors, so I decided to open a suggestion that creates a whole new duty called "LV Map editor". If administrators can help us by making a forum board for LV map updates so we can save effort in Land development board filtering between normal requests and LV requests so it can be in front of everyone and I can give a monthly report about updates after filtering useless/useful suggestions without spam.

How the changes will be made? by LV players voting on changes, suggestions then LV map editors will start working on them

Current plans? Adding new objects on dead/unplayed such as empty turfs so players will have options to play in many turfs not only 5-6 turfs KACC, North HBL, etc, and re-mapping old sea turfs.

How map editors will be chosen? Team leader probably will be me, I will choose mature/trustworthy players that will make their work in a perfect way that will satisfy the rest of the LV players.

Extra information after mapping and finishing everything LV map editors can ask current map editors to just make a final check/test if there are any typos.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: S7nik on 23 12, 2021, 09:13:15 pm
Making a whole duty for responsible players to handle LV things would be a smart move so we can't bother non LV players with our issues, because they have many things to do. supporting this
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Private on 23 12, 2021, 09:24:07 pm
As the title says, adding a duty that will be responsible for map editing in LV as nobody wants to work on it from current map editors, so I decided to open a suggestion that creates a whole new duty called "LV Map editor". If administrators can help us by making a forum board for LV map updates so we can save effort in Land development board filtering between normal requests and LV requests so it can be in front of everyone and I can give a monthly report about updates after filtering useless/useful suggestions without spam.

How the changes will be made? by LV players voting on changes, suggestions then LV map editors will start working on them

Current plans? Adding new objects on dead/unplayed such as empty turfs so players will have options to play in many turfs not only 5-6 turfs KACC, North HBL, etc, and re-mapping old sea turfs.

How map editors will be chosen? Team leader probably will be me, I will choose mature/trustworthy players that will make their work in a perfect way that will satisfy the rest of the LV players.

Extra information after mapping and finishing everything LV map editors can ask current map editors to just make a final check/test if there are any typos.

what kind of "map editing" you're talking about? If its about adding some objects just to remove them after a short period of time because people start complaining again for this new change being bad, then this duty is pointless not gonna lie. How can you satisfy the rest of LV is a big question, and will the decision be based only on votes? what if an alliance wants an x object to be added to a y place but its something that's shit, but because they're many in number it seems to be heavily upvoted, then it will be added? that's fucked up more than current LV - Big no  :cros:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 23 12, 2021, 09:30:08 pm
what kind of "map editing" you're talking about? If its about adding some objects just to remove them after a short period of time because people start complaining again for this new change being bad, then this duty is pointless not gonna lie. How can you satisfy the rest of LV is a big question, and will the decision be based only on votes? what if an alliance wants an x object to be added to a y place but its something that's shit, but because they're many in number it seems to be heavily upvoted, then it will be added? that's fucked up more than current LV - Big no  :cros:
Map editing like adding new sea turfs or adding objects in land turfs to make it more playable and I don't think it would give an advantage to a specific alliance as you said because turfs will be played by everyone, not just 1 side, having a forum board so everyone is free to state his opinion just like that board so you can agree/disagree like map editor won't let his friends only vote.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Sleuth on 23 12, 2021, 09:41:36 pm
Sounds like a good idea to match those turfs with what players who play in the city actually want, I guess there won't be any unfairness as everything will be visible to the community and chosen by players, bias and such will be obvious. though, the changes mustn't be repetitive and have to be carefully considered before putting them into action to not mess things up.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: MaThew~Zika on 23 12, 2021, 10:13:20 pm
Voting positive, this duty is really needed as the current people from the team of mappers, wouldn't understand what LV players wants and what they really need, it's so annoying to go there and ask for things, like they have the power to decide wheter adds or not, also in my way of view it is senseless that players that has no experience in LV would know what we really want, in mapping aspects.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Private on 23 12, 2021, 10:30:57 pm
Map editing like adding new sea turfs or adding objects in land turfs to make it more playable and I don't think it would give an advantage to a specific alliance as you said because turfs will be played by everyone, not just 1 side, having a forum board so everyone is free to state his opinion just like that board so you can agree/disagree like map editor won't let his friends only vote.

Ok but what if people outside of LV decide about LV's fate how can you prevent that. I think a better solution would be to make a forum topic about permament stuff with voting ability like you guys did with LV binds. Give time so more people respond to it, then the result will (or atleast should) represent the choice of the majority of LV players. Also it's not about new people playing in LV since that is barely happening now, you keep seeing same names in LV for many reasons that aren't necessary to be stated here.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 23 12, 2021, 10:35:54 pm
Ok but what if people outside of LV decide about LV's fate how can you prevent that. I think a better solution would be to make a forum topic about permament stuff with voting ability like you guys did with LV binds. Give time so more people respond to it, then the result will (or atleast should) represent the choice of the majority of LV players. Also it's not about new people playing in LV since that is barely happening now, you keep seeing same names in LV for many reasons that aren't necessary to be stated here.
we won't rush in mapping changes anyways so we will give time to everyone to post his opinion.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: zurq on 23 12, 2021, 11:03:40 pm
This one is visibly worth adding. Well, as you can see. Nowadays, people are blankly always suggesting things such as "adding those objects in the specific turf", etc... Which made the discussion board barely spammed from these suggestions. Likewise, I'd like to say that I am voting positive based on the votes above and what daddy wrote. As he explained it understandably.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Brian on 23 12, 2021, 11:26:57 pm
You should at least provide some maps, that aren't 6 random wall objects, before requesting a duty and a "own team" and power and access to change maps. I recall Farhan provided several big maps before receiving a duty like CE map editor.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 23 12, 2021, 11:29:08 pm
You should at least provide some maps, that aren't 6 random wall objects, before requesting a duty and a "own team" and power and access to change maps. I recall Farhan provided several big maps before receiving a duty like CE map editor.
I didn't provide the maps because it is still under review and voting but its okay, pictures will be uploaded in 2 minutes :poggers:

many people offered to help to start mapping but I told them to wait until we see actions from server administrators. Because I don't want people to waste their time asking players and getting feedbacks to revive a turf, then they receive motivation/feedback like "6 random wall objects" here is one of the turfs @DeathWish-X mapped and still voting on it.

https://i.imgur.com/IqIzUEM.png
https://i.imgur.com/H5Ddgs0.png
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: OhhKarim on 24 12, 2021, 06:24:33 am
Definitely upvoting as the LV players will be able to create a more fun environment to turf in, and then staffs don't have to use the statement "we don't have the time to re-do changes" because I'm sure a good LV map editor won't have a problem dedicating a few minutes to add, remove, or revert any changes. This is definitely an interesting idea, lets see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Coke on 24 12, 2021, 02:31:27 pm
Not thank you, another "war" incoming.  :knife:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: MaThew~Zika on 24 12, 2021, 03:57:29 pm
Not thank you, another "war" incoming.  :knife:
War is what is already happening, people ain't comfortable with current things.

Also I don't really think your opinnion would be take into consideration as you are not an LV player, imagine if I pick a LV player and ask him how to fix LS, this is senseless in my way of view.

So LS players maybe shouldn't opine here.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Wangrant on 24 12, 2021, 04:48:47 pm
Focusing on LV map updates will be a great beginning to make it more active Positive.[/b]
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Softg on 24 12, 2021, 06:15:52 pm
I support this suggestion everything that comes to add more things are usually good, and I see that it will be more organized.  :tick:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Coke on 24 12, 2021, 06:37:32 pm
War is what is already happening, people ain't comfortable with current things.

Also I don't really think your opinnion would be take into consideration as you are not an LV player, imagine if I pick a LV player and ask him how to fix LS, this is senseless in my way of view.

So LS players maybe shouldn't opine here.
You are talking too much while you did not know I was in a LV group and first GLM for gangster.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 24 12, 2021, 06:41:22 pm
You are talking too much while you did not know I was in a LV group and first GLM for gangster.
as you said you "was" and your expectations never worked even you said before in LV Preference your negative votes that don't make any sense for me and LV players, Thanks for your opinion.
This would make another chaos and repeating the shit again. It is better to stop talking about this. But if you really have something against this you should make one topic for every preferences.

Negative.
no chaos no problems, nothing got repeated so maybe due to your inactivity you lost LV experience end of the discussion.
we don't need to fight here, because we both know which votes are ignored and which are not.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: ManeXi on 24 12, 2021, 07:47:05 pm
Same game-play. Same fights. Same Turfs. Same Players. Same Objects 24/7
We definitely need to add something new to LV. I played more than 5 years in LV and it's just become a routine. You waste 2 hours fighting at KACC, then move to NBL, Parking, Oil, Castle, and vice versa...
Big up! and good luck  :tick:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Sp1 on 25 12, 2021, 04:08:12 am
In my opinion maps stayed like that for a while there is no actual "Improvement" for example call of duty and other games have system what saves their economy and keep make old players coming back such as " adding new maps , restarting a  whole game and list goes on and on" since this game has became pay to win pretty much then there is nothing much left we just can't reset players resources it will make them even more whine but we can surely add new turfs.
I once had war in KACC for 4 hours straight and at the end I was able to drive from hospital to KACC blindfolded and it's was more like a challenge but if we think about it critically then it ain't good something needs to be done doing things out of routine make people getting bored easily and move on.

We need some kind of fun and spark added to the game.



EDIT:

Just watched few old videos and turfs has been same way since 10+ years it seems to me and it's not okay at all I'm shocked to be honest.

Upvoting,
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Coke on 25 12, 2021, 05:32:52 am
as you said you "was" and your expectations never worked even you said before in LV Preference your negative votes that don't make any sense for me and LV players, Thanks for your opinion.no chaos no problems, nothing got repeated so maybe due to your inactivity you lost LV experience end of the discussion.
we don't need to fight here, because we both know which votes are ignored and which are not.
I don't need to explain much for you also it is free to share opinion, if you don't accept my opinion then don't open a suggestion.

I still say no for this, as this will make more chaos and power-whore incoming.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Sp1 on 25 12, 2021, 06:22:41 am
I don't need to explain much for you also it is free to share opinion, if you don't accept my opinion then don't open a suggestion.

I still say no for this, as this will make more chaos and power-whore incoming.

Okay mr. ex LV GLM noone don't even know you in LV community I rather take advice form random HoBoS member than you at least his more experienced than you.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Coke on 25 12, 2021, 07:25:28 am

Okay mr. ex LV GLM noone don't even know you in LV community I rather take advice form random HoBoS member than you at least his more experienced than you.
Don't worry mr.nothing. I don't really care about yourself. I just stated my opinion.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Arran on 25 12, 2021, 08:08:01 pm
You should have mentioned that I suggested suggesting this.

You should at least provide some maps, that aren't 6 random wall objects, before requesting a duty and a "own team" and power and access to change maps. I recall Farhan provided several big maps before receiving a duty like CE map editor.

He's provided a lot of good suggestions which is why I'd trust him to not do bad changes and obviously I'll have to implement some kind of action limits and of course objects to be edited must be in the LV area.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: maxil on 25 12, 2021, 09:19:25 pm
Updating the turfs will revive many turfs and make it active. :tick:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: DSA on 25 12, 2021, 09:46:20 pm
Unfortunately, nowadays LV is quantity to win anything which makes it impossible for low quantity groups/teams to play, because it would result in 10 players defending 2-3 players, having updated turfs from current LV players will understand the situation so it would be mapped with strategies to give players chance to take covers etc., as you can see most of the time played turfs are KACC, 2 North HBL, LVPD, and Parking. Upvoting
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: MaThew~Zika on 25 12, 2021, 10:46:52 pm
You should have mentioned that I suggested suggesting this.

He's provided a lot of good suggestions which is why I'd trust him to not do bad changes and obviously I'll have to implement some kind of action limits and of course objects to be edited must be in the LV area.

Ok, so how we will organize now?

The new 'duty' shall be made.  (LV Map Editor)
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Private on 26 12, 2021, 12:18:22 am
Ok, so how we will organize now?

The new 'duty' shall be made.  (LV Map Editor)

no it shouldn't. it will cause more problems than solve
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: zurq on 26 12, 2021, 12:29:30 am
no it shouldn't. it will cause more problems than solve

Like what? :D
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 26 12, 2021, 12:44:13 am
no it shouldn't. it will cause more problems than solve
list the problems instead of saying words without any sense or you waiting for us to guess them?
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Private on 26 12, 2021, 02:06:54 am
list the problems instead of saying words without any sense or you waiting for us to guess them?

i've already made a post on this board.. no need to say more.. also people here added more stuff that I didint think of like who's gonna choose the map editors, if the changes they're gonna make will be accepted by most lv players, how often changes would happen etc.. just imagine a LV map editor team or however you wanna call it adding changes in LV like everyday.. this will destroy lv more because from the phase where there arent often changes we will transfer to new one with many changes etc.. so let's say if a LV player quits the server or just lv for x amount of time then comes back it will be very different for him and what he has been used to.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 26 12, 2021, 02:17:28 am
i've already made a post on this board.. no need to say more.. also people here added more stuff that I didint think of like who's gonna choose the map editors, if the changes they're gonna make will be accepted by most lv players, how often changes would happen etc.. just imagine a LV map editor team or however you wanna call it adding changes in LV like everyday.. this will destroy lv more because from the phase where there arent often changes we will transfer to new one with many changes etc.. so let's say if a LV player quits the server or just lv for x amount of time then comes back it will be very different for him and what he has been used to.
any game should keep updating. let's say you quit COD or any game for a while then you came back they won't make new maps or anything? illogical
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Private on 26 12, 2021, 02:19:12 am
any game should keep updating. let's say you quit COD or any game for a while then you came back they won't make new maps or anything? illogical

i didint mean that.. just wanted to say that map editors might overdo it and one add add x object and the next day remove it without asking LV for removing it just because they felt like = abusing
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 26 12, 2021, 02:19:49 am
i didint mean that.. just wanted to say that map editors might overdo it and one add add x object and the next day remove it without asking LV for removing it just because they felt like = abusing
I promise you nothing would happen without asking LV.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Private on 26 12, 2021, 02:27:23 am
I promise you nothing would happen without asking LV.

no need to promise to me I dont care that much for server, more likely LV  :kek4: mostly saying because lv players are known as whinning players so yes
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: OhhKarim on 26 12, 2021, 03:05:08 am
i've already made a post on this board.. no need to say more.. also people here added more stuff that I didint think of like who's gonna choose the map editors, if the changes they're gonna make will be accepted by most lv players, how often changes would happen etc.. just imagine a LV map editor team or however you wanna call it adding changes in LV like everyday.. this will destroy lv more because from the phase where there arent often changes we will transfer to new one with many changes etc.. so let's say if a LV player quits the server or just lv for x amount of time then comes back it will be very different for him and what he has been used to.

You should have mentioned that I suggested suggesting this.

He's provided a lot of good suggestions which is why I'd trust him to not do bad changes and obviously I'll have to implement some kind of action limits and of course objects to be edited must be in the LV area.

Did you not read what Arran said? He literally said he's gonna add some limit to the amount of times an edit can be done.  :fp:



Even for the sake of your piss-poor argument, lets say the LV community all suffer from bipolar disorder and they want to make frequent changes, so what? Staffs like to use the excuse "We can't keep changing stuff because we're busy" (yet in their applications they say stuff such as that they're playing the game 16 hours a day so they're ready to help whenever necessary... however that's besides the point) but LV players who are specifically holding this duty; a duty to make map changes, will obviously have the time to make a few changes here and then, regardless of the frequency of it being asked, so it shouldn't even be an issue to worry about. If they're not doing their job, they get replaced, simple as.



I don't need to explain much for you also it is free to share opinion, if you don't accept my opinion then don't open a suggestion.

I still say no for this, as this will make more chaos and power-whore incoming.

Imagine that the guy who literally created an introduction solely to boast about his list of duties/updates (no introduction, he just puts his previous/current duties in the topic lmao) is saying he wants to prevent power-whores, it can't get any funnier than that!

(https://i.ibb.co/7zZWYmb/Capture.png)



(https://c.tenor.com/AdlfUbaGJscAAAAd/kekw-distorted.gif)

Don't worry about LV when you're not an LV player, it's not going to affect you one bit.



no need to promise to me I dont care that much for server, more likely LV  :kek4: mostly saying because lv players are known as whinning players so yes

More likely? Do you mean especially? Why are you crying in this topic if you 'don't care' then? Typical attention seekers.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: xXkingahmdXx on 26 12, 2021, 06:15:36 am
VotingNegative
I like LV as it is and I wouldn't like any change
My opinion.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Akkaman on 26 12, 2021, 11:32:43 am
How map editors will be chosen? Team leader probably will be me, I will choose
this is very funny quote

negative this is totally stupid idea just him thinkin he will control lv is hilarious the only thing that is near good idea is changing sea map turfs
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Maximo on 26 12, 2021, 12:09:35 pm
I will choose mature/trustworthy players that will make their work in a perfect way that will satisfy the rest of the LV players.
And why would we let you chose the trustworthy players, when yourself isn't trustworthy, due to your behavior in game, provoking in team chat whole the time.

Uh, well about your suggestion I don't really think it's needed. Since LV currently is satisfying place to play in, current locations of LV, such as KACC, NBL etc.. They all been existing for years without having map editor. There are also countless areas in LV to fight in. My personal opinion as an lv player, if this suggestion will be implemented most of LV will lose interest to play there. So please, keep it as it is. Totally negative  :cros:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 26 12, 2021, 12:10:30 pm
And why would we let you chose the trustworthy players, when yourself isn't trustworthy, due to your behavior in game, provoking in team chat whole the time.

Uh, well about your suggestion I don't really think it's needed. Since LV currently is satisfying place to play in, current locations of LV, such as KACC, NBL etc.. They all been existing for years without having map editor. There are also countless areas in LV to fight in. My personal opinion as an lv player, if this suggestion will be implemented most of LV will lose interest to play there. So please, keep it as it is.
can you explain how it would let players lose interest to play?
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Maximo on 26 12, 2021, 12:15:18 pm
can you explain how it would let players lose interest to play?

For example, sea nowadays because of the complicated objects over there none like to play there. And now if you keep placing objects in the land, you are going to change a pure San andreas locations where we all adapted to. And it's easy outgoing for new players
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Zio on 26 12, 2021, 12:16:00 pm
Positive, back in the day we used to turf in more than just 3 turfs, LV has around 60-70 turfs and there are only 3 turfs that are active (NBL, Park and KACC), re mapping some of the turfs will add more turfs to the active list.
LV is dead as fuck and adding turfs might give the players an activity boost.
In addition, it’s a necessity to re map the sea turfs since they are glitchy and players teleport in them easily and its almost impossible to fight there.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 26 12, 2021, 12:16:41 pm
For example, sea nowadays because of the complicated objects over there none like to play there. And now if you keep placing objects in the land, you are going to change a pure San andreas locations where we all adapted to. And it's easy outgoing for new players
as I can see from my personal opinion and most of the players opinion discussed on LV discussion sea was being old not having complicated object because that turfs exists for more than 4 years and you still didn't get used to it?
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Maximo on 26 12, 2021, 12:19:02 pm
as I can see from my personal opinion and most of the players opinion discussed on LV discussion sea was being old not having complicated object because that turfs exists for more than 4 years and you still didn't get used to it?
Maybe changing sea turfs would be good, many areas there are bugged. But if you are going to f**k the land up then I am against you. Furthermore, I don't move to sea turfs often because it's really source of disturbance. Even many objects are bugged there.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: daddy on 26 12, 2021, 12:20:06 pm
Maybe changing sea turfs would be good, many areas there are bugged. But if you are going to f**k the land up then I am against you. Furthermore, I don't move to sea turfs often because it's really source of disturbance. Even many objects are bugged there.
you guys need to understand that without voting no one can change anything I have it planned like we will have own board we can post the mapping update there, open voting for 1 week then we can decide if it should be added or not.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: AlPacino on 26 12, 2021, 12:42:37 pm
Highly upvoting this suggestion because as the new LV meta has been changed a map editor needed to adapt some turfs to the new game play system  :tick:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Antiquity on 26 12, 2021, 12:52:54 pm
LV have limited turfs to handle quantity, I left because LV became very bad that 5 people defending 1 while most of them using RPGs which makes the gameplay pointless and impossible to have fun. having an update like that will make turfs that can give advantages like taking covers for low amount against the high. Upvote
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: STAR on 26 12, 2021, 01:06:19 pm
It would be very refreshing to have different sea turfs and changes to the more difficult turfs to defend/attack. LV has been at a very stagnant point for many years now with no real new changes to meta or gameplay. I think mixing up the turfs with objects or places entirely like you mentioned was the plan with the sea turfs is a very good and refreshing idea, and maybe even slightly shift the meta to something different, who knows?

We already have an LV discord for everyone to throw in their two cents to make it as fair as possible. Arran and Brian always has the last say, so if there is any balancing issues they can simply reject the changes. (Including the limits and restrictions that would be taken in to account for the mappers)

I have a feeling this will be a good change for every LV player. Totally supporting this.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: MaThew~Zika on 26 12, 2021, 02:18:59 pm
My personal opinion as an lv player, if this suggestion will be implemented most of LV will lose interest to play there. So please, keep it as it is. Totally negative  :cros:

I can see how they are having fun in LV, they only playing in some parts which would be: HBL, Kacc, parking, this resumes LV, and LVPD.

We would edit only unused turfs and make it useful to play, like, players will have more options of turfs to play, because alot of turfs in LV are unused not the favourite of them to be playing.

Also, your lack of argument, I couldn't find any logical answer, in what you wrote. How players will leave LV if we edit unused turfs and now make it finally useful, maybe you got something personal against the OP that made the topic, and that's why you are not supporting the idea, you got some grudge.

LV consists of players all the time going to KACC, LVPD, HBL, alot of turfs are not that often used, and these turfs will be EDITED to make it playable.

Maybe changing sea turfs would be good.

Daddy will create/build the mappers team, he will choose who fits, whoever wants to help are welcome, plus every map modification will be put in the topic of the proper board of LV Map Editor to be voted. And in one week we will update it, we will gather the votes with one week, and receive the feedback, also, when we edit a specific turf and make it playable, players can share feedbacks if we should add more covers area (for the battle) more boxes or stairs, the map could be updated alot, like in modern games, updating it.

And in this "graph" I show where the players play, this will be useful for Arran as he doesn't know LV's turfs name (maybe)

Red: Most played turfs "24 Hours/7"
Yellow: Neutral, not that often played.
And others one are dead turfs. (If compared with red and yellow ones)

(https://imgur.com/iVXQQ6r.png)

Red: Why players play there? They got a decent scenario, they can hide, jump, go to a higher place, making it very dynamic, and even hidding inside a shed/hangar.
Yellow: Seems to be equal if compared to red but with lack of "objects/building" to do all what I wrote above.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Farhan on 26 12, 2021, 03:14:56 pm
I guess LV turfs (specifically sea turfs) aren’t updated since we mapped it at first and none touched it after it.
Having a team of mappers who will work within a limit and restrictions to make the city updated with the need of time is something we should consider and these guys will have better communication with LV players comparing to an administrator holding that duty..
If it work within limits and restrictions and having positive impact then why not?
I will vote positive for this suggest.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: HideOnBush on 26 12, 2021, 04:04:23 pm
Voting Negative.   :cros: it will ruined LV gameplay again hehe. Just opinion  :thonk:
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Maximo on 26 12, 2021, 04:45:50 pm
I can see how they are having fun in LV, they only playing in some parts which would be: HBL, Kacc, parking, this resumes LV, and LVPD.
We would edit only unused turfs and make it useful to play, like, players will have more options of turfs to play, because alot of turfs in LV are unused not the favourite of them to be playing.

I don't think there are unused turfs in LV. Especially in the land, the only reason why it is inactive is because we lacks to players in LV. Now you saying that players are sticked with specific turfs like KACC, LVPD etc.. I am saying because these places are good ones to fight. But we only lacks to developers whom gonna work on Sea turfs and oil because they mapped since long time ago. They're older than my grandma.. Even players are getting bored of them since they became old ones and nothing really interesting/motivating to play there. But baddest idea is adding whole duty and their administrator daddy to make LV better.

Also, your lack of argument, I couldn't find any logical answer, in what you wrote. How players will leave LV if we edit unused turfs and now make it finally useful, maybe you got something personal against the OP that made the topic, and that's why you are not supporting the idea, you got some grudge.
You must respect others opinion even if you don't agree with them, either that will be considered as ignorance from you. Furthermore, how dare you tell me that I have problem with the OP, and I voted negative just cuz I hate him, but the fact is I don't even know that person, I just know him from team/main chat as he is provoking my groupmates whole the time.thats why I am saying he is untrustworthy to give him such a position and allow him to do whatever he want on LV. Seriously, nothing personal but I am just a fair person, only being equal with everything. All I care about is our server's future.
Daddy will create/build the mappers team, he will choose who fits, whoever wants to help are welcome, plus every map modification will be put in the topic of the proper board of LV Map Editor to be voted. And in one week we will update it, we will gather the votes with one week, and receive the feedback, also, when we edit a specific turf and make it playable, players can share feedbacks if we should add more covers area (for the battle) more boxes or stairs, the map could be updated alot, like in modern games, updating it.

Sorry but no from me. Daddy proved that he is bad example and we can never trust him on hard tasks like this, firstly he were warned recently on forum, 2ndly his behavior is unsuitable for that. How will he chose perfect editor when himself isn't perfect. I can imagine him when he get his power as administrator of lv map editor how will him abuse it. And lastly the guy being reported many times. He lacks to the common sense and he don't know how democracy works.


And in this "graph" I show where the players play, this will be useful for Arran as he doesn't know LV's turfs name (maybe)

Red: Most played turfs "24 Hours/7"
Yellow: Neutral, not that often played.
And others one are dead turfs. (If compared with red and yellow ones)

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(https://imgur.com/iVXQQ6r.png)

Red: Why players play there? They got a decent scenario, they can hide, jump, go to a higher place, making it very dynamic, and even hidding inside a shed/hangar.
Yellow: Seems to be equal if compared to red but with lack of "objects/building" to do all what I wrote above.

You've done a good scenario but it stay mess of your thoughts. Because all areas are playable but since sea and oil are mapped ones they must be edited due to its old age and bugged objects. But the rest are good enough, but they are dead cuz lv itself is dead. But I witness that KACC, PARK, LVPD, NBL, CASTLE, CASINO, PNS, CBL are most fun but they are enough locations if you want to play in mapped locations then shall you move to Sea.

Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: MaThew~Zika on 26 12, 2021, 05:17:16 pm
I don't think there are unused turfs in LV. Especially in the land, the only reason why it is inactive is because we lacks to players in LV. Now you saying that players are sticked with specific turfs like KACC, LVPD etc.. I am saying because these places are good ones to fight. But we only lacks to developers whom gonna work on Sea turfs and oil because they mapped since long time ago. They're older than my grandma.. Even players are getting bored of them since they became old ones and nothing really interesting/motivating to play there. But baddest idea is adding whole duty and their administrator daddy to make LV better.
You must respect others opinion even if you don't agree with them, either that will be considered as ignorance from you. Furthermore, how dare you tell me that I have problem with the OP, and I voted negative just cuz I hate him, but the fact is I don't even know that person, I just know him from team/main chat as he is provoking my groupmates whole the time.thats why I am saying he is untrustworthy to give him such a position and allow him to do whatever he want on LV. Seriously, nothing personal but I am just a fair person, only being equal with everything. All I care about is our server's future.
Sorry but no from me. Daddy proved that he is bad example and we can never trust him on hard tasks like this, firstly he were warned recently on forum, 2ndly his behavior is unsuitable for that. How will he chose perfect editor when himself isn't perfect. I can imagine him when he get his power as administrator of lv map editor how will him abuse it. And lastly the guy being reported many times. He lacks to the common sense and he don't know how democracy works.

You've done a good scenario but it stay mess of your thoughts. Because all areas are playable but since sea and oil are mapped ones they must be edited due to its old age and bugged objects. But the rest are good enough, but they are dead cuz lv itself is dead. But I witness that KACC, PARK, LVPD, NBL, CASTLE, CASINO, PNS, CBL are most fun but they are enough locations if you want to play in mapped locations then shall you move to Sea.

I didn't disrespected your comment, I just said that I didn't found any logical answer. Look at the players, majority upvoted it. It shows that we are going on the right direction, and about daddy choosing a "perfect mapper" perfect doesn't even exists, we are looking for people who can map and make sure there won't be any bug, no it is not baddest idea, you got some grudge agains't this player as I can see clearly, everytime you have to mention him, just don't make this a drama topic if you have any trouble with him go to his private profile and send him a message to solve it. Lets discuss about how the suggestion will help or not help etc.

Also, this is the first step, (New Board/LV Map editor duty) and after that we can have motivation to start working on a whole new sea turfs.

We need to organize it firstly.
Quote from: Maximo
I am saying he is untrustworthy to give him such a position and allow him to do whatever he want on LV. Seriously, nothing personal but I am just a fair person, only being equal with everything. All I care about is our server's future

At this time, some sentences doesn't make senses to me, how he will do whatever he wants if it is based on votes, I can't understand.

@OhhKarim   can you understand it? Cus I cannot.

Btw he won't abuse powers as you are claiming, if he abuses he is simple removed, he won't abuse it, I know.

Voting Negative.   :cros: it will ruined LV gameplay again hehe. Just opinion  :thonk:

@PGM  how it will ruin LV gameplay? Give us a logical answer with some details, as I can see, you guys are probably smsing each other on any platform if not in CIT, like: go to this suggestion X and say that you don't support it, go vote negative, at this point I don't even know if you read the topic properly. (Maybe hobos players marked this player and is voting not based on the suggestion itself but a grudge against this specific player)

It won't ruin gameplay because it doesn't change gameplay but change maps aspect, also, the unused turfs would be edited as no one likes to play there, I repeated this 99x times.

I don't think your reply is going to be considered.
Title: Re: Adding a new server duty "LV Map Editor"
Post by: Arran on 26 12, 2021, 06:11:15 pm
- Added a new duty: LVME (LV Map Editor) who can edit the map (but not bases) within the LV combat area. (Arran + daddy)

Added daddy as LVME and PMed him how to use map editor.