As the title says, adding a duty that will be responsible for map editing in LV as nobody wants to work on it from current map editors, so I decided to open a suggestion that creates a whole new duty called "LV Map editor". If administrators can help us by making a forum board for LV map updates so we can save effort in Land development board filtering between normal requests and LV requests so it can be in front of everyone and I can give a monthly report about updates after filtering useless/useful suggestions without spam.
How the changes will be made? by LV players voting on changes, suggestions then LV map editors will start working on them
Current plans? Adding new objects on dead/unplayed such as empty turfs so players will have options to play in many turfs not only 5-6 turfs KACC, North HBL, etc, and re-mapping old sea turfs.
How map editors will be chosen? Team leader probably will be me, I will choose mature/trustworthy players that will make their work in a perfect way that will satisfy the rest of the LV players.
Extra information after mapping and finishing everything LV map editors can ask current map editors to just make a final check/test if there are any typos.
what kind of "map editing" you're talking about? If its about adding some objects just to remove them after a short period of time because people start complaining again for this new change being bad, then this duty is pointless not gonna lie. How can you satisfy the rest of LV is a big question, and will the decision be based only on votes? what if an alliance wants an x object to be added to a y place but its something that's shit, but because they're many in number it seems to be heavily upvoted, then it will be added? that's fucked up more than current LV - Big no :cros:Map editing like adding new sea turfs or adding objects in land turfs to make it more playable and I don't think it would give an advantage to a specific alliance as you said because turfs will be played by everyone, not just 1 side, having a forum board so everyone is free to state his opinion just like that board so you can agree/disagree like map editor won't let his friends only vote.
Map editing like adding new sea turfs or adding objects in land turfs to make it more playable and I don't think it would give an advantage to a specific alliance as you said because turfs will be played by everyone, not just 1 side, having a forum board so everyone is free to state his opinion just like that board so you can agree/disagree like map editor won't let his friends only vote.
Ok but what if people outside of LV decide about LV's fate how can you prevent that. I think a better solution would be to make a forum topic about permament stuff with voting ability like you guys did with LV binds. Give time so more people respond to it, then the result will (or atleast should) represent the choice of the majority of LV players. Also it's not about new people playing in LV since that is barely happening now, you keep seeing same names in LV for many reasons that aren't necessary to be stated here.we won't rush in mapping changes anyways so we will give time to everyone to post his opinion.
You should at least provide some maps, that aren't 6 random wall objects, before requesting a duty and a "own team" and power and access to change maps. I recall Farhan provided several big maps before receiving a duty like CE map editor.I didn't provide the maps because it is still under review and voting but its okay, pictures will be uploaded in 2 minutes :poggers:
Not thank you, another "war" incoming. :knife:War is what is already happening, people ain't comfortable with current things.
War is what is already happening, people ain't comfortable with current things.You are talking too much while you did not know I was in a LV group and first GLM for gangster.
Also I don't really think your opinnion would be take into consideration as you are not an LV player, imagine if I pick a LV player and ask him how to fix LS, this is senseless in my way of view.
So LS players maybe shouldn't opine here.
You are talking too much while you did not know I was in a LV group and first GLM for gangster.as you said you "was" and your expectations never worked even you said before in LV Preference your negative votes that don't make any sense for me and LV players, Thanks for your opinion.
This would make another chaos and repeating the shit again. It is better to stop talking about this. But if you really have something against this you should make one topic for every preferences.no chaos no problems, nothing got repeated so maybe due to your inactivity you lost LV experience end of the discussion.
Negative.
as you said you "was" and your expectations never worked even you said before in LV Preference your negative votes that don't make any sense for me and LV players, Thanks for your opinion.no chaos no problems, nothing got repeated so maybe due to your inactivity you lost LV experience end of the discussion.I don't need to explain much for you also it is free to share opinion, if you don't accept my opinion then don't open a suggestion.
we don't need to fight here, because we both know which votes are ignored and which are not.
I don't need to explain much for you also it is free to share opinion, if you don't accept my opinion then don't open a suggestion.
I still say no for this, as this will make more chaos and power-whore incoming.
Don't worry mr.nothing. I don't really care about yourself. I just stated my opinion.
Okay mr. ex LV GLM noone don't even know you in LV community I rather take advice form random HoBoS member than you at least his more experienced than you.
You should at least provide some maps, that aren't 6 random wall objects, before requesting a duty and a "own team" and power and access to change maps. I recall Farhan provided several big maps before receiving a duty like CE map editor.
You should have mentioned that I suggested suggesting this.
He's provided a lot of good suggestions which is why I'd trust him to not do bad changes and obviously I'll have to implement some kind of action limits and of course objects to be edited must be in the LV area.
Ok, so how we will organize now?
The new 'duty' shall be made. (LV Map Editor)
no it shouldn't. it will cause more problems than solve
no it shouldn't. it will cause more problems than solvelist the problems instead of saying words without any sense or you waiting for us to guess them?
list the problems instead of saying words without any sense or you waiting for us to guess them?
i've already made a post on this board.. no need to say more.. also people here added more stuff that I didint think of like who's gonna choose the map editors, if the changes they're gonna make will be accepted by most lv players, how often changes would happen etc.. just imagine a LV map editor team or however you wanna call it adding changes in LV like everyday.. this will destroy lv more because from the phase where there arent often changes we will transfer to new one with many changes etc.. so let's say if a LV player quits the server or just lv for x amount of time then comes back it will be very different for him and what he has been used to.any game should keep updating. let's say you quit COD or any game for a while then you came back they won't make new maps or anything? illogical
any game should keep updating. let's say you quit COD or any game for a while then you came back they won't make new maps or anything? illogical
i didint mean that.. just wanted to say that map editors might overdo it and one add add x object and the next day remove it without asking LV for removing it just because they felt like = abusingI promise you nothing would happen without asking LV.
I promise you nothing would happen without asking LV.
i've already made a post on this board.. no need to say more.. also people here added more stuff that I didint think of like who's gonna choose the map editors, if the changes they're gonna make will be accepted by most lv players, how often changes would happen etc.. just imagine a LV map editor team or however you wanna call it adding changes in LV like everyday.. this will destroy lv more because from the phase where there arent often changes we will transfer to new one with many changes etc.. so let's say if a LV player quits the server or just lv for x amount of time then comes back it will be very different for him and what he has been used to.
You should have mentioned that I suggested suggesting this.
He's provided a lot of good suggestions which is why I'd trust him to not do bad changes and obviously I'll have to implement some kind of action limits and of course objects to be edited must be in the LV area.
I don't need to explain much for you also it is free to share opinion, if you don't accept my opinion then don't open a suggestion.
I still say no for this, as this will make more chaos and power-whore incoming.
no need to promise to me I dont care that much for server, more likely LV :kek4: mostly saying because lv players are known as whinning players so yes
How map editors will be chosen? Team leader probably will be me, I will choosethis is very funny quote
I will choose mature/trustworthy players that will make their work in a perfect way that will satisfy the rest of the LV players.And why would we let you chose the trustworthy players, when yourself isn't trustworthy, due to your behavior in game, provoking in team chat whole the time.
And why would we let you chose the trustworthy players, when yourself isn't trustworthy, due to your behavior in game, provoking in team chat whole the time.can you explain how it would let players lose interest to play?
Uh, well about your suggestion I don't really think it's needed. Since LV currently is satisfying place to play in, current locations of LV, such as KACC, NBL etc.. They all been existing for years without having map editor. There are also countless areas in LV to fight in. My personal opinion as an lv player, if this suggestion will be implemented most of LV will lose interest to play there. So please, keep it as it is.
can you explain how it would let players lose interest to play?
For example, sea nowadays because of the complicated objects over there none like to play there. And now if you keep placing objects in the land, you are going to change a pure San andreas locations where we all adapted to. And it's easy outgoing for new playersas I can see from my personal opinion and most of the players opinion discussed on LV discussion sea was being old not having complicated object because that turfs exists for more than 4 years and you still didn't get used to it?
as I can see from my personal opinion and most of the players opinion discussed on LV discussion sea was being old not having complicated object because that turfs exists for more than 4 years and you still didn't get used to it?Maybe changing sea turfs would be good, many areas there are bugged. But if you are going to f**k the land up then I am against you. Furthermore, I don't move to sea turfs often because it's really source of disturbance. Even many objects are bugged there.
Maybe changing sea turfs would be good, many areas there are bugged. But if you are going to f**k the land up then I am against you. Furthermore, I don't move to sea turfs often because it's really source of disturbance. Even many objects are bugged there.you guys need to understand that without voting no one can change anything I have it planned like we will have own board we can post the mapping update there, open voting for 1 week then we can decide if it should be added or not.
My personal opinion as an lv player, if this suggestion will be implemented most of LV will lose interest to play there. So please, keep it as it is. Totally negative :cros:
Maybe changing sea turfs would be good.
I can see how they are having fun in LV, they only playing in some parts which would be: HBL, Kacc, parking, this resumes LV, and LVPD.I don't think there are unused turfs in LV. Especially in the land, the only reason why it is inactive is because we lacks to players in LV. Now you saying that players are sticked with specific turfs like KACC, LVPD etc.. I am saying because these places are good ones to fight. But we only lacks to developers whom gonna work on Sea turfs and oil because they mapped since long time ago. They're older than my grandma.. Even players are getting bored of them since they became old ones and nothing really interesting/motivating to play there. But baddest idea is adding whole duty and their administrator daddy to make LV better.
We would edit only unused turfs and make it useful to play, like, players will have more options of turfs to play, because alot of turfs in LV are unused not the favourite of them to be playing.
Also, your lack of argument, I couldn't find any logical answer, in what you wrote. How players will leave LV if we edit unused turfs and now make it finally useful, maybe you got something personal against the OP that made the topic, and that's why you are not supporting the idea, you got some grudge.You must respect others opinion even if you don't agree with them, either that will be considered as ignorance from you. Furthermore, how dare you tell me that I have problem with the OP, and I voted negative just cuz I hate him, but the fact is I don't even know that person, I just know him from team/main chat as he is provoking my groupmates whole the time.thats why I am saying he is untrustworthy to give him such a position and allow him to do whatever he want on LV. Seriously, nothing personal but I am just a fair person, only being equal with everything. All I care about is our server's future.
Daddy will create/build the mappers team, he will choose who fits, whoever wants to help are welcome, plus every map modification will be put in the topic of the proper board of LV Map Editor to be voted. And in one week we will update it, we will gather the votes with one week, and receive the feedback, also, when we edit a specific turf and make it playable, players can share feedbacks if we should add more covers area (for the battle) more boxes or stairs, the map could be updated alot, like in modern games, updating it.
And in this "graph" I show where the players play, this will be useful for Arran as he doesn't know LV's turfs name (maybe)
Red: Most played turfs "24 Hours/7"
Yellow: Neutral, not that often played.
And others one are dead turfs. (If compared with red and yellow ones)Show content(https://imgur.com/iVXQQ6r.png)
Red: Why players play there? They got a decent scenario, they can hide, jump, go to a higher place, making it very dynamic, and even hidding inside a shed/hangar.
Yellow: Seems to be equal if compared to red but with lack of "objects/building" to do all what I wrote above.
I don't think there are unused turfs in LV. Especially in the land, the only reason why it is inactive is because we lacks to players in LV. Now you saying that players are sticked with specific turfs like KACC, LVPD etc.. I am saying because these places are good ones to fight. But we only lacks to developers whom gonna work on Sea turfs and oil because they mapped since long time ago. They're older than my grandma.. Even players are getting bored of them since they became old ones and nothing really interesting/motivating to play there. But baddest idea is adding whole duty and their administrator daddy to make LV better.
You must respect others opinion even if you don't agree with them, either that will be considered as ignorance from you. Furthermore, how dare you tell me that I have problem with the OP, and I voted negative just cuz I hate him, but the fact is I don't even know that person, I just know him from team/main chat as he is provoking my groupmates whole the time.thats why I am saying he is untrustworthy to give him such a position and allow him to do whatever he want on LV. Seriously, nothing personal but I am just a fair person, only being equal with everything. All I care about is our server's future.
Sorry but no from me. Daddy proved that he is bad example and we can never trust him on hard tasks like this, firstly he were warned recently on forum, 2ndly his behavior is unsuitable for that. How will he chose perfect editor when himself isn't perfect. I can imagine him when he get his power as administrator of lv map editor how will him abuse it. And lastly the guy being reported many times. He lacks to the common sense and he don't know how democracy works.
You've done a good scenario but it stay mess of your thoughts. Because all areas are playable but since sea and oil are mapped ones they must be edited due to its old age and bugged objects. But the rest are good enough, but they are dead cuz lv itself is dead. But I witness that KACC, PARK, LVPD, NBL, CASTLE, CASINO, PNS, CBL are most fun but they are enough locations if you want to play in mapped locations then shall you move to Sea.
I am saying he is untrustworthy to give him such a position and allow him to do whatever he want on LV. Seriously, nothing personal but I am just a fair person, only being equal with everything. All I care about is our server's future
Voting Negative. :cros: it will ruined LV gameplay again hehe. Just opinion :thonk: