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Title: Disallowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Combat on 02 09, 2018, 10:48:26 am
The general idea of the suggestion: Dis-allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster.
The party effected by the suggestion and the effect: Military and Crims and gangster with WL.
The possible outcomes:
- This will make fair to both sides.
The calculation needed to the suggestion: N/A
Detailed explanation of the overall suggestion:
- I'm suggesting to dis-allow/not allow Military to damage wanted crim and gangster, As i've seen there are some Gangster go to Military turf on LV and troll Military as we know, Gangster and Crim that has wanted level can kill military as well also they can be killed by military if they got Wanted Level.

- Military are for Rebels, and military were not for Crims and gangster with Wanted level, As i've seen Military can go to LS and join Crimevents and Rebel's can't join Riot or crimevents on LS, So this is too unfair on rebel side as their they can't use the advantages that military has.

- I'm telling that Military are for Rebels and Crim and Gangster ( With Wanted Level ) Are for Police Officers/Cops.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: BoBzky on 02 09, 2018, 11:31:50 am
I alway see military on LS, I get your point that is is unfair to rebel side because military can join the riots that are on LS also it is not fair to rebel because their role is only at Turfing so I support this suggestion.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Combat on 02 09, 2018, 11:57:16 am
Military are helping ud a lot in killing criminals you didnt think about cops I will vote netural but I have questions rebels cant kill cops?
Yep, Rebels can't kill cops. ( That's why I made this suggestion as to be fair on rebel side )

EDITED:
So If they want to help cop's to kill crim's so then, They must take a cop job and not the job that they were already taken.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: ReDuXy on 02 09, 2018, 02:52:19 pm
If Rebel cant kill cops then Military also should not be allowed to Kill Criminals I am Supporting this
Idea
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Neb on 02 09, 2018, 03:39:25 pm
It should be desame for another side like a police, by the way I think this will be must good if we can pare it to the rebels, so this will not be unfair, I hope this will possible, so im going to support and give my vote for this suggestion.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Pandex on 02 09, 2018, 03:41:54 pm
If Rebel cant kill cops then Military also should not be allowed to Kill Criminals I am Supporting this
Idea

Totally agree with you ahmed it must be fair to rebel, Also as combat said if you want to help cop to kill crim go take police officer job and not military job, The role of military are to take and defend their turf again'st the rebel and also same on rebel but why they are involved in LS as they kill crims so I totally support this.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: DubStep on 02 09, 2018, 04:58:07 pm
I will Support your suggestion .Combat, As It is not fair because Military can kill criminals and gangster with wanted level as it is not supposed to be
The purpose of military is to take turf and defend turf from rebels and not killing crims or players with wanted level as you stated.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Drake on 02 09, 2018, 04:59:00 pm
I support this to remove the 2 job (damage Wanted Crims and Gangster) for military cuz its police job.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Meteor on 02 09, 2018, 05:39:15 pm
I approve this suggestion. All players will benefit from that. This will make fair to both sides. We will organize our system because It's annoying to see all players kill each other.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: PizzaKen on 02 09, 2018, 06:43:36 pm
I think this is a strong argument, I  support  the idea too
If Rebel cant kill cops then Military also should not be allowed to Kill Criminals I am Supporting this
Idea
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Zuvich on 02 09, 2018, 06:49:19 pm
Agreed, Military job is made to fight with rebels not with the Crims in LS....
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: FrNckeTn on 02 09, 2018, 09:03:22 pm
I was think about this case cause always saw military in LS specialy JFM I think it must be added for make Rebel's/Military fair side (bothe)
Supporting
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Destiny. on 02 09, 2018, 10:27:10 pm
I totally agree with this idea that could be abused by the military.

Also, it would be fair from both sides.

:tick: I AM SUPPORTING :tick:
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Adeka on 02 09, 2018, 10:50:07 pm
I'm negative, I see it doesn't really affect the gameplay and according to the stats of the server cops amount is low comparing to the criminal & gangster side. Actually, the current amount isn't enough to deal with the emergency calls. in my opinion such suggestion, it may be will help but not more than it will hurt as the law side still needed more cops.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Harley on 04 09, 2018, 01:49:10 am
supporting Militray must be in SF like rebel and militray use the mod of militray and troll/kill criminals without effort
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Coke on 17 09, 2018, 01:42:18 pm
To be moved.
Title: Re: Not allowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Goku Black on 17 09, 2018, 02:07:10 pm
Moved from Development Stage 1.
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: TrickStar on 01 12, 2018, 05:16:53 am
I was onced surprised why I was losing HP as a wanted criminal since there were no cops nearby and suddenly I realized there was someone who's not blue shooting at me.
I had already seen the olive green blip on the mini map but didn't give it much thought, I thought it was some group color or something but turned out it was a military guy who has absolutely no business in LS in the first place.
Upvoting
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 01 12, 2018, 06:51:02 am
Downvoting  :cros:
The military deals with 6 star criminals/gangster and violent suspects in the break, removing it would make it really suck!
And besides it would feel totally unreal.

Ignore all these criminals wanting advantages and making the game lame!!!

Jesus Christ, this should not pass! They are destroying the game!!!
8 Criminals upvoting this because they dont want to fight!
Dont want trouble? simply Dont get wanted!
Stop removing features!
This is the same populist idea of giving 1 million to everyone!
The Military job already has Movement/vehicles and skin restrictions to balance the fact they hunt criminals!
IF this passes, military should be able to use any vehicle and receive aditional skins, and cops should get aditional advantages to compensate for the loss of personal!
We must consider that the server usually has 20 cops for 140 criminals!
This stupid suggestion can make the army job boring and underplayed! As well making the criminal life even easier and boring too!
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: LucasPLBR on 01 12, 2018, 06:58:24 am
Negative! No way!
Officers hunt criminals when requested, it is not fair to law groups! And this is related to the DSLE!
Please lock this topic! unrealistic and Cops are not being heard!
The military is cool but it would be not if we are disallowed to Arrest criminals!
What next? forbidding cops to arrest criminals?
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Senza on 01 12, 2018, 07:13:56 am
There is no difference between military and police. I am as a leader of a military group. I am really against this and this will ruin our system. There are few organised players who want to play as military, using patrol vehicles and etc. The military has the opportunity to shot criminals even in real life when everything is hard and the situation is out of control. That's when military team interferes. It makes no sense to block the military from this opportunity, otherwise just delete this team already. Downvoting.
Quote
- I'm telling that Military are for Rebels and Crim and Gangster ( With Wanted Level ) Are for Police Officers/Cops.
Then restrict the gangster's team from killing cops. If that's the case.
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Brutallized on 01 12, 2018, 08:07:49 am
I totally agree with you!
Military is for Rebels located in LV they shouldnt have contact with criminals/gangaters and cops! I am supporting
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: TrickStar on 01 12, 2018, 03:05:55 pm
Downvoting  :cros:
The military deals with 6 star criminals/gangster and violent suspects in the break, removing it would make it really suck!
And besides it would feel totally unreal.

Ignore all these criminals wanting advantages and making the game lame!!!

Jesus Christ, this should not pass! They are destroying the game!!!
8 Criminals upvoting this because they dont want to fight!
Dont want trouble? simply Dont get wanted!
Stop removing features!
This is the same populist idea of giving 1 million to everyone!
The Military job already has Movement/vehicles and skin restrictions to balance the fact they hunt criminals!
IF this passes, military should be able to use any vehicle and receive aditional skins, and cops should get aditional advantages to compensate for the loss of personal!
We must consider that the server usually has 20 cops for 140 criminals!
This stupid suggestion can make the army job boring and underplayed! As well making the criminal life even easier and boring too!
What are you even talking about? He didn't suggest removing the whole Law side wtf?
If you want to kill criminals then work as a cop no need to bring more colors into CnR.
There's a reason rebels don't do criminal activities in LS and so militäry men should also not partake in any LS activity. Stay in the desert and turf like you're supposed to. Want to kill wanted criminals work as a cop

Also how tf is it realistic for military to go arrest criminals?
IRL if there's a case of a very dangerous criminal or criminal group the swat team or other special POLICE force is dispatched not the damn military
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Uzaki on 01 12, 2018, 06:37:49 pm
I HONESTLY NOTICE THAT SUGGESTION PAGE HAVE BECOME A DEBATE FIELD OR A WARZONE FOR HARDCORE CRIMINALS AND COPS. FOR THEY ARE FIGHTING TO PASS OR GET A SUGGESTION PASSED WHICH WOULD BENEFIT ONE SIDE, raise your hand you agree.

Anyways, let's proceed.

As you said "Military are for rebel", you said it's unfair? Well, gogangsters are for LV, crims are for LS? Have you seen cops or military ranting about newb criminals who run down to LV Everytime they have wanted levels to seek shelter from a fast pace, new gameplay warzone? You didn't even argue that crims are for LS, yet you see them In LV.

SO BIG NEGATIVE!  :cros:
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 01 12, 2018, 07:12:47 pm
I HONESTLY NOTICE THAT SUGGESTION PAGE HAVE BECOME A DEBATE FIELD OR A WARZONE FOR HARDCORE CRIMINALS AND COPS. FOR THEY ARE FIGHTING TO PASS OR GET A SUGGESTION PASSED WHICH WOULD BENEFIT ONE SIDE, raise your hand you agree.

Anyways, let's proceed.

As you said "Military are for rebel", you said it's unfair? Well, gogangsters are for LV, crims are for LS? Have you seen cops or military ranting about newb criminals who run down to LV Everytime they have wanted levels to seek shelter from a fast pace, new gameplay warzone? You didn't even argue that crims are for LS, yet you see them In LV.

SO BIG NEGATIVE!  :cros:

Uzaki is completely right about this!
Especially in this part:
"You didn't even argue that crims are for LS, yet you see them In LV."
Legendary comment!
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Leon on 01 12, 2018, 08:04:02 pm
Military is a part of Law side. so im Downvoting
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 01 12, 2018, 09:51:27 pm
No it's not. It's a part of the rebel turfing system.
It was never been a exclusive part of the ""rebel system""!
It has always been a division of the law side! The rebel idea came later to give a pvp option to low fps players!
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Senza on 01 12, 2018, 09:59:32 pm
They have unfair advantages over police officers. Such as going prone. If that didn't exist, I would agree with you.
Also military have disadvantages over the police. They can't drive any vehicle or even chasing fast cars. They don't have nightstick that would be pain to you.
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: TrickStar on 01 12, 2018, 10:01:41 pm
I HONESTLY NOTICE THAT SUGGESTION PAGE HAVE BECOME A DEBATE FIELD OR A WARZONE FOR HARDCORE CRIMINALS AND COPS. FOR THEY ARE FIGHTING TO PASS OR GET A SUGGESTION PASSED WHICH WOULD BENEFIT ONE SIDE, raise your hand you agree.

Anyways, let's proceed.

As you said "Military are for rebel", you said it's unfair? Well, gogangsters are for LV, crims are for LS? Have you seen cops or military ranting about newb criminals who run down to LV Everytime they have wanted levels to seek shelter from a fast pace, new gameplay warzone? You didn't even argue that crims are for LS, yet you see them In LV.

SO BIG NEGATIVE!  :cros:
What are you taaalking about dude? Criminals could literally have business everywhere on the map except for LV maybe.
An illegal trucker has to go out to various places outside LS so no criminals are not just for LS. Gangsters on the other hand are just criminals but with the ability to turf. The gangster team was made for criminals that dislike turfing and since there are turfs in LS that's also where they belong besides being criminals anyway.
Military on the other hand I remember years ago you had to apply to become part of the military and those played in LS. Now it's a job to fight Rebels so unless Rebels get the ability to do criminal stuff and kill cops in LS you military doesn't get the luxury of roaming LS.

Furthermore you sais there are criminals that avoid arrest by fleeing to LV, so how about instead of using such a lame excuse to downvote an actually good suggestion you go and suggest that wanted criminals shouldn't be allowed to enter LV?

Conclusion:
Gangsters are simply criminals that have the ability to turf and kill each other.
Criminals and Gangsters do not belong only in LS but all over San Andreas
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Uzaki on 02 12, 2018, 01:27:34 am
What are you taaalking about dude? Criminals could literally have business everywhere on the map except for LV maybe.
An illegal trucker has to go out to various places outside LS so no criminals are not just for LS. Gangsters on the other hand are just criminals but with the ability to turf. The gangster team was made for criminals that dislike turfing and since there are turfs in LS that's also where they belong besides being criminals anyway.
Military on the other hand I remember years ago you had to apply to become part of the military and those played in LS. Now it's a job to fight Rebels so unless Rebels get the ability to do criminal stuff and kill cops in LS you military doesn't get the luxury of roaming LS.

Furthermore you sais there are criminals that avoid arrest by fleeing to LV, so how about instead of using such a lame excuse to downvote an actually good suggestion you go and suggest that wanted criminals shouldn't be allowed to enter LV?

Conclusion:
Gangsters are simply criminals that have the ability to turf and kill each other.
Criminals and Gangsters do not belong only in LS but all over San Andreas


Exactly dude! That's what I'm talking about.

You're here ranting about how flexible the ability of a military is? What's the difference? You can see him in the map when his coming, he has the same HP as cops.

Why not let him be flexy? As you said crims and gangster can have business everywhere either SF, LV or LS.
Why not let military have the same privilege sto be fair and square, right?
IF YOU DONT AGREE FOR GIVING THEM FWIR PRIVILEGES YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING BECAUSE YOU WANNA HELP SOCIETY BUT YOU WANT SOMETHING IN YOUR ADVANTAGE. Lovelots
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: TrickStar on 02 12, 2018, 01:39:11 am
Exactly dude! That's what I'm talking about.

You're here ranting about how flexible the ability of a military is? What's the difference? You can see him in the map when his coming, he has the same HP as cops.

Why not let him be flexy? As you said crims and gangster can have business everywhere either SF, LV or LS.
Why not let military have the same privilege sto be fair and square, right?
IF YOU DONT AGREE FOR GIVING THEM FWIR PRIVILEGES YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING BECAUSE YOU WANNA HELP SOCIETY BUT YOU WANT SOMETHING IN YOUR ADVANTAGE. Lovelots
Why do so?? Why don't you just become a cop and save everyone some headache and extra work?
If military people remain allowed to roam LS then so should the rebels. Also you're completely neglecting Petro's point that military can shoot from a proning position.
Preventing military to arrest criminals in LS does not create unfairness or less opportunity. They can always go to LSPD and take the police job I doubt it'd be a problem since they would have already gone to the desert to get the military job so what's a little trip to LSPD?
Extra work because if they remain like that it would be unfair and eventually something will have to be done against the prone position. Also if all of the military is out hunting crims in LS who's supposed to defend the desert from the rebels?
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Senza on 02 12, 2018, 05:45:03 am
Then play as a cop.
Still, not a reason to add this suggestion.
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 02 12, 2018, 04:10:16 pm
If this ridiculous suggestion to take out military from the law side pass, the cops WILL
make a suggestion to prohibit gangsters from shooting cops. And it will pass.
IT is just logic.
If militars can't shoot criminals because they are """"meant"""" to fight rebels, then Gangsters cant shoot cops nor rob because they are """"meant"""" to fight other gangsters.
and Criminals are the only ones meant to fight cops.
 
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Nidus on 02 12, 2018, 04:12:30 pm
Military in LS obviously have some advantages that should be disabled.

Usage of Hummer.
The prone of theirs which indeed disturbs the criminals aim in such activities in CnR.
Cops can abuse this as when a criminal aims at a military, the criminal does not even get wanted level.
Criminals lose wanted level even nearby a military.
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 02 12, 2018, 04:21:33 pm
Military in LS obviously have some advantages that should be disabled.

Usage of Hummer.
The prone of theirs which indeed disturbs the criminals aim in such activities in CnR.
Cops can abuse this as when a criminal aims at a military, the criminal does not even get wanted level.
Criminals lose wanted level even nearby a military.
Your statement makes no sense.
Usage of hummer? seriously? where?
ain this is not an advantage to the criminal side! Boohoo! I need everything equal when there are 140 criminals online against only 20 cops! otherwise I cant win! That is what advantage seekers complain about.

Cops must be just like us to be fair! But i did not mentioned that they have skin restrictions and they are outnumbered by a  1:7 ratio.

You never play as military nidus!
You don't know about this job restrictions, the military will be boring and underplayed if they can't fight criminals.
This kind of advantage seeker mentality is what is destroying the server and making it boring.
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Nidus on 02 12, 2018, 04:22:32 pm
Your statement makes no sense.
Usage of hummer? seriously? where?
ain this is not an advantage to the criminal side! Boohoo! I need everything equal when there are 140 criminals online against only 20 cops! otherwise I cant win! That is what advantage seekers complain about.
Wat? were you even here when someone suggested why hummer was only enabled for Military?
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 02 12, 2018, 04:26:24 pm
Wat? were you even here when someone suggested why hummer was only enabled for Military?
The Hummer is now exclusive to military?
What happened to it's price?
I think it is a terrible idea!
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Nidus on 02 12, 2018, 04:29:46 pm
The Hummer is now exclusive to military?
What happened to it's price?
I think it is a terrible idea!
Quote
Saturday 13th October 2018
- Advanced Hummer is now restricted to Military team. Added the old criminal Stafford that has 80% damage resistance. (Arran + Annex)
Here is the update, this is why they reverted the stafford, even FBI trucks now have 60% resistance of damage (I think)
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 02 12, 2018, 04:45:08 pm
Here is the update, this is why they reverted the stafford, even FBI trucks now have 60% resistance of damage (I think)
Are you sure it is the FBI trucks? or SWAT?
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Nidus on 02 12, 2018, 04:55:25 pm
Are you sure it is the FBI trucks? or SWAT?
Quote
- FBI Truck will have 60% damage resistance. (Arran + Synax)
Title: Re: [A]Disallowin Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: StarKid on 02 12, 2018, 05:12:28 pm

Even with all this, it is not reason to destroy part of the law side.
And plus, criminals still have Stafford.
Title: Re: Disallowing Military to damage Wanted Crims and Gangster ( With Wanted Level).
Post by: Arran on 03 12, 2018, 10:36:49 pm
 :tick: :tick: - I'm going to be expanding the military and rebel teams so this was a necessary prerequisite.