Decrease the last violent state for criminals

[Haftbefehl]

Hello,

I want to suggest to decrease  the last violent state where cops can kill a criminal to 3 minutes.We want back the old times where we were able to run away from cops and have amazing chases. Cops nowadays are just kill arresting criminals and there's almost no chance to stay 10 minutes alive without defending yourself.

That's the update which I am talking about:

- Raised the last violent state where cops can kill a criminal from 1 minute to 10 minutes.

[Evil4N]

The violent state was changed just 1 month ago because CnR became unfair for law.
The succesfull suggestion-topic to remove violent state: http://cit2.net/index.php?topic=98373

Also what you call "amazing chases" is for us just a horrific system of cheating. You kill cops but those same cops cannot kill you after those 3 minutes ?

The whole concept of "non-violent state" has become obsolete and unnecessary since deathmatching against cops is possible.
So it's kinda ironic that deathmatching-criminals complain about cops who are kill-arresting. It's the same thing.

Also no offense, but Arran should had followed what the suggestion said, and that was to totally remove the violent-state feature.

Downvoted.

[Denos]

+1 10 min is way to long in my opinion. Plus I dont think that many chases last more than 3 min

[Juice]

Just another thing if I have let's say .03 stars for shooting a cop but I don't want that wl now I have to wait 10 minutes just so I can do /fine so yes in up voting for 3 minute non violent state.

[Saiven]

Do you think this is fair for the law side? We can be killed at anytime, and you can't be killed at anytime (when you are wanted), hell no.

Be happy it's 10 minutes, and not permanent.

[DeadlySehse.]

We can agree to make it back to 3 mins, only if the Dm rule will be back, because it's totally unfair to be killed everywhere anytime and for no reason, cops walking in the streets get killed people who are chatting get killed while typing, people trying to buy ammo/clothes or what ever stuff from stores, get killed while in markers even while buying cars they get killed, so actually cops now are like players with hits, if a criminal is driving his car and a cop passed by in the atm looking at his money, they just stop, kill him then take the car and run away, do you think that is fair ? it's not, down-voted.

[Evil4N]

Guys, let's all be honest to ourselves.

If the tazer was not nerfed (cops can not use tazer against shooting criminals), then
you guys wouldn't have been kill-arrested so much.

The tazer has been nerfed, because you guys complained about tazer being
used while you guys were trying to hold a gunfight.

Now the tazer has been nerfed and you guys got your gunfights back.
But now you guys are complaining that you are getting too much killed in those gunfights and want
a violent-state protection.
So we are not able to taze you guys and we are not able to shoot at you guys ?

You guys don't know what you want. In all fairness... if you dont want to be kill-arrested, then give us our full tazer-capability back.
We will start arresting you guys alive.

[JuanElSniper]

It was better at 3 seconds anyway, and like what Juice said, most of the time criminals won't last longer than 3 minutes when getting chased by 5-20 cops.

@CruZe about the tazer -

If the criminal is running from you should still be able to taze him and arrest him. Re-converting the Tazer isn't needed. Cops should be able to arrest a high-wanted criminal, especially if 5-20 cops are chasing just him. Oh yeah, lets not forget that the main reason the Violent-state was increased was because cops were complaining it was "To hard" arresting a criminal who runs.

So we are not able to taze you guys and we are not able to shoot at you guys ?

By the way, you can tazer criminals who are running away. The only thing you won't be able to do is shoot. Most cops nowadays are skilled enough to shoot once and taze the criminal.

Up-voted.

[Evil4N]

It was better at 3 seconds anyway, and like what Juice said, most of the time criminals won't last longer than 3 minutes when getting chased by 5-20 cops.

@CruZe about the tazer -

If the criminal is running from you should still be able to taze him and arrest him. Re-converting the Tazer isn't needed. Cops should be able to arrest a high-wanted criminal, especially if 5-20 cops are chasing just him. Oh yeah, lets not forget that the main reason the Violent-state was increased was because cops were complaining it was "To hard" arresting a criminal who runs.

By the way, you can tazer criminals who are running away. The only thing you won't be able to do is shoot. Most cops nowadays are skilled enough to shoot once and taze the criminal.

Up-voted.

Alright. Then let me put it at this way:

Since criminals can kill us cops all the time for no reason, then what makes you think the criminals has the right of a systemised "violent-protection" ?

The violent-protection dates back at the age when it was DM for killing a cop for no reason. However nowadays the killing of random cops is allowed. For this there is no longer any reason to keep up this "violent-protection". Maebe 1-stars who did not killed a cop deserves a violent-protection. But criminals who killed someone definitely deserves not a protection by the system.

Not to mention a wanted-criminal with 0-stars has the unfair-advantage of making the first-shot. With this 3-minutes protection they can repeat this unfair-advantage every time. This is unfair and destroys the balance.

Also cops gets confused, because there is no way to identify beforehand when someone is kill-able and who is not.
Most cops don't even have a tazer with them. When a criminal is violent-protected it means cops will be chasing them with their guns for no reason, this is equal to trolling/exploiting.

[Grandma]

First the criminals where whining about cops not fighting back with "real" guns and shooting, and now you are whining that the cops only kills you and doesn't chase you.

The system today is good and fair, it doesn't need to be changed back because some criminals is crying about not getting chased.

Downvoted

[Platinum]

Guys, let's all be honest to ourselves.

If the tazer was not nerfed (cops can not use tazer against shooting criminals), then
you guys wouldn't have been kill-arrested so much.

The tazer has been nerfed, because you guys complained about tazer being
used while you guys were trying to hold a gunfight.

Now the tazer has been nerfed and you guys got your gunfights back.
But now you guys are complaining that you are getting too much killed in those gunfights and want
a violent-state protection.
So we are not able to taze you guys and we are not able to shoot at you guys ?

You guys don't know what you want. In all fairness... if you dont want to be kill-arrested, then give us our full tazer-capability back.
We will start arresting you guys alive.

Its not about gunfights,its about,its impossible to stay 10 minutes without defend yourself,also with 3 minutes the chases would be awesome like before.Upvoted

[Evil4N]

Law doesn't want long chases. It's annoying for us. The fact that violent-protection gives you longer chases just shows how imbalance this is.

Besides back in the days of the 1 minute violent-protection, most of the high-wanteds stars were either hiding in houses or hiding in their LV-bases protected by large groups of group-members.

Or when they were either stacked up together: We law had to figure out which of the 10 criminals got violent-protection and which not. Because of us shooting at a criminal who couldn't die because of the protection, we ended up killed by the criminals who did not had any violent-protection. This violent-protection system is abusable.

[Arran]

5 minutes is about right.