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Title: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Arran on 11 03, 2013, 03:30:04 pm
The server development board was made JCM+ (Junior Community Member) only, as there were so many suggestions and so many useless posts about how people like an idea but had nothing to contribute to that idea.

This restriction caused a lot of people to lose their voice in the server, some people who may be able to contribute excellent ideas but didn't have JCM+ to do so. It also caused a bias in suggestions as it meant that only regular players (that had JCM+) got what they wanted and not what newer players might want. The system that we use for giving out JCM (I manually give it to people) is also prone to major bias meaning that there are people who may have 1000 hour play time but won't have JCM whereas somebody with 100 hours might get it.

If CIT is to develop in the right direction, we need every bodies input. Posts you make in the board will not be counted in your post count and anybody who makes useless posts like "good idea +1" will have the post deleted and receive a +25 forum warning.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Raz on 11 03, 2013, 03:35:50 pm
That means usual players like me can go passed Server Development ?

But how about if a player do +1 good idea but which long usefull sentences about it ?

Example as above : This is absolutely a nice idea. It should not ruined the community. But it should be replace it with marker Y to X. And change the location abit . +1 from me .

^ If its like above reply we can do +1 Arran?
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: ProTo on 11 03, 2013, 03:37:31 pm
That's amazing. Now, sharing ideas is not dependent on the forum rank. Great news.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: hamma on 11 03, 2013, 03:39:10 pm
Yay, finally I can share my ideas with everyone without searching for a JCM to help me out. Thanks
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: fo_ruM on 11 03, 2013, 03:41:27 pm
But how about if a player do +1 good idea but which long usefull sentences about it ?
Example as above : This is absolutely a nice idea. It should not ruined the community. But it should be replace it with marker Y to X. And change the location abit . +1 from me .
^ If its like above reply we can do +1 Arran?

Of course you can post that, but it should spread that like you did.. So you can post post with +1 but not only with that
...............................
Questions:
If I got it right the non-CM members can only post or make a topic too ?
If I got it right posts to the topic wont count to postcount ?
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Shomy on 11 03, 2013, 03:50:38 pm
That is good cuz now some non JCM can show what they really know.good job like always.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Arran on 11 03, 2013, 03:51:57 pm
You can say "+1 good idea" as long as you then have something useful to add to the topic for example:

"+1 good idea, we could do this differently because of this and that and that and so and and so on"

Not acceptable example:

"-1 stupid idea, you can already do this that way"

It's not acceptable because although you said something, you're not contributing towards the topic as other people can down rate it without reading your post.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: HellStunter on 11 03, 2013, 03:52:48 pm
Thank god, finally I can suggest some stuffs that I really wanted to from years ^^
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: zola on 11 03, 2013, 03:54:03 pm
Well, I do not want to praise myself, but it helps me a lot, I already gave good suggestions to the server, but now I was unable to do that, thanks for the update, will help me a lot.
Now I'll work to get a JCM only to delete my own posts.

Regards
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: CloudChaos on 11 03, 2013, 04:43:31 pm
I totally support this move, I've got many different suggestions to post. Being unable to spread out my ideas can be like a cage.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: HoRyKaN on 11 03, 2013, 04:56:13 pm
It's good give everybody a chance to say his suggestions , server will become great with this idea.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Moez on 11 03, 2013, 04:58:17 pm
Awesome, it's great to give us a chance to give our opinions and votes again.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Ex_TcR on 11 03, 2013, 05:00:45 pm
Well thats really a good news and good update and yes there are alot of people who had 1000+ hours but didn't got even JCM and they was not able to suggest any idea and now there is no need for them to send PMs to JCM+ that they have an idea and they are not JCM.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Terror. on 11 03, 2013, 05:05:18 pm
Nice to see that Non-community members now can post/suggest in server development board.Some non-Community members have great ideas but they don't know how to reveal it.

Good work :).
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Ex_TcR on 11 03, 2013, 05:09:36 pm
Sorry to say that won't it be hard for Admins to check that which Suggestion is good and Which is not?

Because within sometime the first page is filled with non community members and the old Suggestions with +20 votes are at the 3rd page.

Just asking because there are alot of suggestions now.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: AdA on 11 03, 2013, 05:18:24 pm
It should be implemented earlier though all are happy now with this update as now they don't have to beg JCM's to post their views and get their credits.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Bhavik on 11 03, 2013, 05:52:39 pm
Nice, because I have a lots of suggestions to share.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: mega on 11 03, 2013, 05:55:41 pm
You took the right decision, many people have excellent suggestions not only JCM's. I had a few ideas but couldn't post them, although they could've been rejected but at least would have given my voice and shared a suggestion that might have ended with positively towards the community. anyway, good to hear such news. :D

You should never use the same password on noobish servers as you do on servers that you seriously play on. You do realise that by registering an account on any noobish server you are giving away your username and password to the bunch of kids that run it and anybody else who could find a way to access their noobish systems.

If you have registered an account on any server that isn't CIT with the same password and you seriously care about your account on CIT, you should change your password right now. Also if you think somebody accessed your account you should make a complaint here: https://cit2.net/index.php?board=251.0 and include the evidence you have which would mainly be in the form of a screenshot showing your /recentlogins
I knew that some people were hacked, due to the kids and noobs on other servers that their main dream is to get this community down. I spammed their forum >:D an eye for an eye.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Haftbefehl on 11 03, 2013, 06:06:06 pm
It's a good decision to put this board 'public'.
In my opinion is it always better to have a high amount of feedback as from a selected group of people.
So I hope those which couldn't attend on this board respect this decision and follow the rules in this board.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Shomy on 11 03, 2013, 06:36:10 pm
I look at it,post and make sugg I was 3rd from when is oppened  today,this SD will change CIT on more better way :)
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: DaHoBo on 11 03, 2013, 07:02:48 pm
On the past,i had many ideas,but couldn't share it with everyone on the server,i tryed to PM JCM's And RCM's but none of them replied at me,all of them ignored me,even I had like .. great ideas about Crims events,Official groups..ect.So now,i will have the right to put My opinion on the server,thank's arran.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Silbester-. on 11 03, 2013, 07:08:40 pm
Thats awsome thanks arran
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: puhQ on 11 03, 2013, 07:14:40 pm
Awesome , the Server Development will have now more suggestions , I hope all of them will be useful.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: ALFRiDo on 11 03, 2013, 07:29:42 pm
I've missed the S-D section a lot, glad its more active & cleared from useless posts.

Good news ... had a few different suggestions over this period and tried a to post them in "General CIT "Discussion section .. they get locked but this is ceratinly one of the best and most helpful ones I've been waitin' .. so cheers to all that contribute to help or just make us grin from time to time especially now.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Lido on 11 03, 2013, 09:29:31 pm
nice new but I lf I lost JCm can I back it?!
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: ALFRiDo on 11 03, 2013, 09:36:45 pm
nice new but I lf I lost JCm can I back it?!
Yes .. if you keep working, you'll get it back.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: OlezhkA on 11 03, 2013, 10:34:51 pm
Quote from: Arran
It also caused a bias in suggestions as it meant that only regular players (that had JCM+) got what they wanted and not what newer players might want. The system that we use for giving out JCM (I manually give it to people) is also prone to major bias meaning that there are people who may have 1000 hour play time but won't have JCM whereas somebody with 100 hours might get it.
^Totally agree with it.

Yes, some players got only 100 hours, and they're JCM+

And someone has normal ranks, like Junior / Regular / Senior poster. Yes, I think, it's right decision from you. I know many good players, without JCM, RCM, SCM rank.

Quote from: Arran
If CIT is to develop in the right direction, we need every bodies input. Posts you make in the board will not be counted in your post count and anybody who makes useless posts like "good idea +1" will have the post deleted and receive a +25 forum warning.
^That's why You closed development board in the past, because of the 'random posters', because they just need to increase their postcount.

By the way, now all junior / regular / senior posters, have a chance, to deserver JCM / RCM / SCM rank, they're able to suggest good ideas, and maybe scripts.

Thank you.

As for me, it's perfect.

Regards.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: zendex_ on 11 03, 2013, 11:05:12 pm
For me, every person has a voice countless of how little or how big he is in-game. Doesn't really matter what a JCM + ideas really are but individually every person should have right to post their ideas and staff should decide upon it. Like always, I am happy to hear now every voice is precious for this board of development.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: joao1234 on 11 03, 2013, 11:26:12 pm
Well nice to know that, I was waiting for that much time :/ now I can make my own suggestions and see the other ones..
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: BlackBullet on 12 03, 2013, 02:47:57 am
Good idea arran most of the player want to suggest in "Development" but they didn't JCM to suggest their suggestion, It was really useful and helpful to us "Non-JCM" to see the server "Developement".
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: hindiakosijohn on 12 03, 2013, 02:51:53 am
Can't wait to see some ideas and new stuffs from other players. Good thing to hear about it
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: bryanzzzz on 12 03, 2013, 03:43:42 am
That's amazing. Now, sharing ideas is not dependent on the forum rank. Great news.
+1 ProTo Good Job
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: psyKapa on 12 03, 2013, 04:21:48 am
Can't wait to see the suggestions done by the "non-"community members.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Terminator on 12 03, 2013, 05:52:25 am
That's good to know that all have equal voice in the community ;)
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Denos on 12 03, 2013, 07:40:11 am
Good to hear, General Discussion was spammed with SD topics from non-CM members
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: G.Recon on 12 03, 2013, 10:03:13 am
Finally! No more asking for JCM+ players to suggest posts for you! Woohooo!! I just hope there wouldn't be any unnecessary suggestions such as manual/automatic drives....
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Falker on 12 03, 2013, 12:13:00 pm
One thing that may and probably will happen is all those spamming topics that are plain stupid. I honestly like server development as it, but I'm probably being a bit biased since I have JCM. However, of course there will be great ideas by non-community members. Waiting to see results.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: pachichi on 12 03, 2013, 03:43:54 pm
GooD idea  ARRAn I like it
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Rabbid Rabbit on 12 03, 2013, 04:22:47 pm
I understood why it was 1st removed, theres was A LOT of '' odd / questionable '' suggestions ... and some were useless or didn't add anything important / usefull or good to the server.

But as the weeks went on, I did wonder about people like you mentioned, who were smart, loyal and had amazing Ideas, but didn't have the required rank.

Adding it back IMO, seems great, we just have to make sure the silly suggestions don't fill up that board again. I'm all for people's ideas, some have REALLY good ones too, and they're not JCM.


I look forward to what people have to suggest.

We're continuingly getting better, it's awesome!
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Saracho on 12 03, 2013, 10:15:55 pm
Awesome, now everyone can put their suggestions.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: MsKitty on 13 03, 2013, 04:09:46 am
That's pretty damn Awesome  :)
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: SmokeMonSta on 13 03, 2013, 04:26:19 am
I love that everyone can make suggestions but I dont like how forums warnings are being handed out like tic tacs now
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: RiveraFTW on 13 03, 2013, 05:09:18 am
Good job, Finally We can share out suggestion in Server Development since we can see the Server Development not life before.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Hydar. on 13 03, 2013, 06:20:15 am
Well great job, we can suggest what ever we want to suggest.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Robert Timecock on 13 03, 2013, 07:13:00 am
I extensively agree with everything you said, Arran.
This is the exact line of thinking that develops a gaming community in the right direction.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Roy on 13 03, 2013, 12:45:05 pm
Great idea !

Can't wait to see some ideas and new stuffs from other players.  ^-^
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Mr.CrimeOne23 on 14 03, 2013, 02:17:08 am
Now, I can share my suggestion to Server Development, and we can see the server Development Suggestion by people.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: SilVaFusion on 14 03, 2013, 02:23:46 am
This is actually really good, now less people are going to ask me to suggest their ideas, less work for me.

This is a good way to get more ideas for the server, since a lot of players had great ideas but couldn't post them because they didn't had JCM or a JCM friend.

Thanks Arran, hope the server development increases now.
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Roooock on 14 03, 2013, 04:53:09 pm
great idea  ;D , now we can suggest every idea we want to suggest     0:)
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: jag007 on 14 03, 2013, 07:49:18 pm
awsome idea every one can give his opinion now :D
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: EfeC on 14 03, 2013, 08:10:11 pm
Great Idea !
We can suggest our ideas
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: kezbano on 15 03, 2013, 08:44:39 pm
It is great new.Since too long time we can see Server development board.I think some of us have a lot of great suggestion/idea(s).
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: TurkLe on 15 03, 2013, 08:55:28 pm
Awesome idea...
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Hummel on 15 03, 2013, 10:19:44 pm
Great Idea . That's pretty damn Awesome  :)
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: MrtGenC on 15 03, 2013, 10:25:56 pm
Great Idea . That's amazing  ;)
Title: Re: Server Development Public Relaunch
Post by: Lido on 15 03, 2013, 10:42:11 pm
great ideabut don't forget don't spam gyyss