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Title: [+++] Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Zexeeo on 22 09, 2022, 11:57:00 pm
Hello CIT, i'm here to suggest simple and fair idea I just want to state some reasons.

1st of all it takes only 22 ak/m4 shots/ammo/bullets to destroy a (full tuned car) which is non-sense and unplayable for alot of reasons such as

1- Cops need more resistance to chase more crims also it's so dumb when 20 crim glue on a 1 hummer to one shot a cop or destroy his car with mgs within 1sec or ak he has 0 chances to escape same goes to a crim or apb running from cops using hummer or using any normal car it will take frm them less than 10sec to destroy his car shoting 22-24 ak ammos imagine if 4 cops in 1 ar shooting using ak there is 0 chances for that apb or crim to escape that not to mention when cops block the roads with barriers and camp with mgs it's just unplayable and shoting a car with ak will never stop a car irl unless killing the driver or ripping the car wheels if we talk about reality or real life so if anyone think it's over powered we have plan B which will allow players to shot cars wheels instead of using stingers


2-how to balance this unplayable situation:- We will just increase the car bullet resistance from 10 to 50. (Undertest also we will keep this topic unlocked for a week so we make sure that it's balanced to avoid making tons of topis in future).

3-How it is fair for everyone?:- simply everyone can buy engine parts with in-game money it's not restricated to any side for example crim or law side also not restricted to any type of players for example DLs or something so as long as EVERY PLAYER IS ABLE TO BUY IT WITH IN-GAME MONEY so it's fair because everyone can earn in-game money also if someoned tuned his car bullet resistance 50/50 it will destroyable for 110 (2 ak reloads) which is kinda fair, also it cost 17m tho to full tune a car to 50/50 bullet resistance
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: hyperlink on 23 09, 2022, 12:07:53 am
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Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Axe on 23 09, 2022, 12:49:38 am
Agree  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: T0Y-B0Y on 23 09, 2022, 04:18:44 am
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Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Crash28 on 23 09, 2022, 04:35:48 am
Maybe we can have a craftable armor for vehicles? Like lets say have it add another 100% HP to your car but once it runs out the max hp is back to 100% untill you craft it again?
Also maybe it should take damage only from bullets not from crashing into walls etc
But ye  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: TwCafe on 23 09, 2022, 04:37:03 am
Tbh, it sounds fair enough since this idea can solve this problem, and not benefit one team.  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: WizarD on 23 09, 2022, 04:50:35 am
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Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: BirdBoy on 23 09, 2022, 04:54:22 am
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Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Legacy on 23 09, 2022, 04:58:02 am
very good suggestion  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Avices on 23 09, 2022, 05:50:29 am
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Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Apollo on 23 09, 2022, 06:30:42 am
From my point of view the current average resistance to gunfire that vehicles have is already fair. Just the fact that its impossible to pop-up someone's tyres with an average gun, brings already a huge advantage to the vehicles' bullet resistance. Other than that special armored vehicles exist for a reason, in case you are about to drive through a heist, or any other event that would expose you to firing bullets, just pick the right vehicle instead of a supercar like cheetah.

Going Negative
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Blue. on 23 09, 2022, 06:58:25 am
Tbh, it sounds fair enough since this idea can solve this problem, and not benefit one team.

Positive.
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Zexeeo on 23 09, 2022, 08:22:58 am
From my point of view the current average resistance to gunfire that vehicles have is already fair. Just the fact that its impossible to pop-up someone's tyres with an average gun, brings already a huge advantage to the vehicles' bullet resistance. Other than that special armored vehicles exist for a reason, in case you are about to drive through a heist, or any other event that would expose you to firing bullets, just pick the right vehicle instead of a supercar like cheetah.

Going Negative
it doesn't matter which car you pick, all cars can be destroyed within 22-24 ak bullets except stafford and hummer ofc, also why would it be unfair when everyside and every player will be able to buy the same engine parts from F7 and using the same payment method aka in-game money and as I said in the topic itself, everyone can earn in-game.
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Taz on 23 09, 2022, 08:53:18 am
Well, I always use my Stafford I see a lot of people are angry with the other cars it can be destroyed in a few seconds with 22-24 AK bullets, So yeah I agree with this idea since it benefits everyone.  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Dokt0R on 23 09, 2022, 09:52:26 am
POSITIVE
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: HusnuCoban on 23 09, 2022, 10:15:35 am
You want another Cybertruck problem? Then why it got nerfed? I don't understand this community sometimes. It's hard for both sides because both sides use hummer with MGs. This solution is useful for only criminals because cops have to chase criminals. As I see the mostly voters are criminals. Some of fast cars have a big resistance when it gets all upgrades at %100 hp and this makes harder to chase them for cops because we have to shoot them to stop but all cars we got are slower than them. So if we can't stop them outside a criminal event then when?  :cros:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Cyaride on 23 09, 2022, 01:53:35 pm
I'm supporing this absoluetly.

When playing in LV, it takes just 2 seconds to get your car exploded. SO, I'm giving positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Zexeeo on 23 09, 2022, 04:08:43 pm
but all cars we got are slower than them. So if we can't stop them outside a criminal event then when?  :cros:
excuse me do you have enough experience about the cars in-game? according to in-game > F1 > Max speed of cars Police LS aka (5k car) is faster than the banshee itself aka (3m) car
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Police LS: 165 -- 322 KPH Banshee: Banshee -- 201 KPH -- 302 KPH
so you better to avoid talking about what is fair for both sides because there is NOTHING fair to crim side if you gonna compare the sides, imagine a crim wastes tons of time working and robbing to save 3m so he buy banshee then a cop wasted 2mins of his daytime to buy a police LS and get him ez...



You want another Cybertruck problem?
well to I have no idea why cybertruck was nerfed it was fair for everyone because even cops can use cybertruck and can buy it, and don't tell me that not everyone can save 8m to buy cybertruck because cops payments are actually the double or triple of crim's payments. you get 20-50k$ per kill we get 30k from AR per 3mins.



This solution is useful for only criminals because cops have to chase criminals. As I see the mostly voters are criminals.
how can it be useful only for crims when cops can buy engine parts, civils can buy engine parts and crims can buy engine parts even gangsters can buy engine parts? you guys are just going to any suggestion made by crim then you directly negative without even voting and the server will never be improved this way, do you know how many times a cop went to suggestion made by crim then he said the same words like you? "As I see the mostly voters are criminals."? just stop that non-sense stuff twcafe is a cop and he voted positive and we never talked in-game, this suggestion is not even meant to be for any type of sides it's a general suggestion to improve the gameplay for everyone no matter which side they are.



Some of fast cars have a big resistance when it gets all upgrades at %100 hp
I tested already whole cars and all of them are destroyable within 22-24 AK ammos which takes less than a reload all it takes to destroy a car is a left click. no need to even reload your ak lol, just test everything by yourself in-game 1st before voting or comming here to say "this suggestion is useful only for crim side and all voters are from crim side".



this makes harder to chase them for cops because we have to shoot them to stop but all cars we got are slower than them
you can also shot their cars while going near them and if your car got more bullet resistance it will give you higher chance and more time to shot their car even more also it will give you higher chance and enough time to go near crim car to ram and stop it also there are some of cops cars that can use stingers while driving such as enforcer, S.W.A.T tank or idk what is the name of it, all it takes just 2mins to think about it also I can tell you more of OP stuff in law side if you want so as I said before you better to not play "crim side is more op than law side" game here, because you just mentioned how it will work form crim point of view when you chase a crim and didn't want to mention it from cop point of view.



So if we can't stop them outside a criminal event then when?  :cros:
Well it's your job as a cop it's not my duty/job to tell you how to stop criminals but anyways I will just tell you, simply you can use road blocks(barriers) and stingers also you can shot the car wheels as I said in topic which confirms my words that you didn't even read the topic itself and just replied to say all voters are crims and its just useful for crims... you can also attend ARs and CEs instead of camping away with cars waiting crims to leave ARs so you go 20-30 cop vs 1 crim and ruin the whole CnR experience for the whole server players... i have 5k playtime so i'm aware of everything im talking about..
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: fl1cK on 23 09, 2022, 04:31:32 pm
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Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: nTLSkills on 23 09, 2022, 08:33:55 pm
Totally Agree  :tick:
Maybe not from 10 to 50 but at least double
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Zexeeo on 23 09, 2022, 08:47:44 pm
Totally Agree  :tick:
Maybe not from 10 to 50 but at least double
yes we will keep the topic unlocked for a week after arran add it in-game so we increase or decrease the number depends on the results in-game
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Private on 23 09, 2022, 09:03:20 pm
I'm really positive for this suggestion. Especially if a criminal is chased by numerous cops, he has little to no chance of escaping. Hummer and Stafford can be auto-repaired but not everyone has any of those cars. This update will balance vehicles and make the game more enjoyable for criminals.
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Pinky on 24 09, 2022, 02:46:32 am
OH YES
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Mattztz on 24 09, 2022, 11:39:42 am
 :tick: I agree... Cops are easily die when that happens.
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: M1D0 on 24 09, 2022, 11:46:04 am
It will be efficient for both sides. Cars need to be more stronger so we can have more fun while chasing each other. Nothing unfair. Overall idea is great. Positive.
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: CoPe. on 24 09, 2022, 12:01:43 pm
I'm supporting this, cuz it's fair for all sides  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Conroy on 24 09, 2022, 12:10:32 pm
This will be fair for both sides, increase the strength of the vehicles is a great thing, obviously Positive
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: TwCafe on 24 09, 2022, 01:42:34 pm
22 positive, negative votes. Marked as High Priority. :ree:
Title: Re: [+++] Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: iNathaFTW. on 24 09, 2022, 02:08:22 pm
Fair enough for both side.  :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Jayy on 24 09, 2022, 03:50:25 pm
finally, POSITIVE
Title: Re: [+++] Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Kadyy on 24 09, 2022, 04:26:22 pm
totally agree on this  :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: HusnuCoban on 24 09, 2022, 06:19:52 pm
excuse me do you have enough experience about the cars in-game? according to in-game > F1 > Max speed of cars Police LS aka (5k car) is faster than the banshee itself aka (3m) car
Show content
Police LS: 165 -- 322 KPH Banshee: Banshee -- 201 KPH -- 302 KPH
so you better to avoid talking about what is fair for both sides because there is NOTHING fair to crim side if you gonna compare the sides, imagine a crim wastes tons of time working and robbing to save 3m so he buy banshee then a cop wasted 2mins of his daytime to buy a police LS and get him ez...


well to I have no idea why cybertruck was nerfed it was fair for everyone because even cops can use cybertruck and can buy it, and don't tell me that not everyone can save 8m to buy cybertruck because cops payments are actually the double or triple of crim's payments. you get 20-50k$ per kill we get 30k from AR per 3mins.


how can it be useful only for crims when cops can buy engine parts, civils can buy engine parts and crims can buy engine parts even gangsters can buy engine parts? you guys are just going to any suggestion made by crim then you directly negative without even voting and the server will never be improved this way, do you know how many times a cop went to suggestion made by crim then he said the same words like you? "As I see the mostly voters are criminals."? just stop that non-sense stuff twcafe is a cop and he voted positive and we never talked in-game, this suggestion is not even meant to be for any type of sides it's a general suggestion to improve the gameplay for everyone no matter which side they are.


I tested already whole cars and all of them are destroyable within 22-24 AK ammos which takes less than a reload all it takes to destroy a car is a left click. no need to even reload your ak lol, just test everything by yourself in-game 1st before voting or comming here to say "this suggestion is useful only for crim side and all voters are from crim side".


you can also shot their cars while going near them and if your car got more bullet resistance it will give you higher chance and more time to shot their car even more also it will give you higher chance and enough time to go near crim car to ram and stop it also there are some of cops cars that can use stingers while driving such as enforcer, S.W.A.T tank or idk what is the name of it, all it takes just 2mins to think about it also I can tell you more of OP stuff in law side if you want so as I said before you better to not play "crim side is more op than law side" game here, because you just mentioned how it will work form crim point of view when you chase a crim and didn't want to mention it from cop point of view.


Well it's your job as a cop it's not my duty/job to tell you how to stop criminals but anyways I will just tell you, simply you can use road blocks(barriers) and stingers also you can shot the car wheels as I said in topic which confirms my words that you didn't even read the topic itself and just replied to say all voters are crims and its just useful for crims... you can also attend ARs and CEs instead of camping away with cars waiting crims to leave ARs so you go 20-30 cop vs 1 crim and ruin the whole CnR experience for the whole server players... I have 5k playtime so i'm aware of everything im talking about..

  ;D Okay you are the most opposition I have no word for you anymore because you don't know anything about mathematics, on paper-in practise. Btw twcafe votes positive for every suggestion nowadays.
 
Title: Re: Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: TwCafe on 24 09, 2022, 06:47:08 pm
Btw twcafe votes positive for every suggestion nowadays.
Not true.
Hmm..  I couldn't find I voted negative recently.  :fp:
But I have to say I do the moderator duty, and vote(leave my opinion) as a normal community member the same as others. I support some suggestions of course, and decide to participate those I'm not interested or disagreed or not.
Title: Re: [+++] Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: NeVe on 25 09, 2022, 05:04:00 am

Agree  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Micko94 on 26 09, 2022, 01:38:47 am
As someone who recently came back after 4 years of CIT break, I must say I find it very frustrating not being able to escape the AR/CE on your own. Full-tuned vehicle (with bullet resistance) gets destroyed in no time by only 1 player, so it makes me wonder what's the purpose of that "bullet resistance" ? I fully support the idea of reverting to the old bulletproof body kit.  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Increasing car bullet resistance because it's unplayable nowdays.
Post by: Arran on 26 09, 2022, 04:32:20 pm
- Increased car tuning bullet resistance so that each level gives 0.05 instead of a 0.01 bullet resistance boost. (Arran + Zexeeo)