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Title: [++] [Arran] kill will be countable if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: chaiNNAlAzim07 on 27 09, 2020, 07:08:04 pm: What kind of criteria your suggestion holds: Reduce inconvenience.

Good day, I'm opening this topic because I've seen players killing themselves when they're almost died by their opponent, so this topic is simple and no need much explanation since I will provide two videos below.

1. in LV when someone is about to die either he uses RPG or uses a grenade to be killed which is very annoying since you waste bullets and grenades and he ends up killing himself. here is a short video of what I'm talking about
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgN5NG0QvHs

2. in LS the same things happen but not like LV one, for example; 2 players are fighting on roofs and 1 is low, that low hp player suicide by falling down to prevent being killed by the other player who wasted bullets. a video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgN5NG0QvHs
and same thing can be done with molotoves in LS by the way but I don't have any videos for it, later I will provided another video.

what I'm suggesting: so I'm suggesting that if X player damaged Y player and Y player tried to suicide by any way before 15 seconds pass, the kill will still be counted for X player.
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Ths on 28 09, 2020, 03:07:54 am: Hello, Good Morning/Evening,

This is actually good since some of the players are like this in the video. Wasting Time + Money to killed that guy but he is going to suicide himself like what you stated above if the X player going to kill Y player and Y player have 1hp and he will be going to suicide himself maybe the reason is not to count the kills on the X player or just to annoy him. I'm going to give POSITIVE good luck with other votes.
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Inno# on 28 09, 2020, 05:10:45 am: Personally expirienced this a lot of times as an LV player, After having to spend so much of money behind the ammo that goes into killing one person and then he simply suicides to not give the enem their kill, its simply absurd and very annoying. They just run all the time and when they're low they resort to killing themselves so that their opponent doesn't get their kill. Its highly annoying and I think it would make a good suggestion to add this feature in game. Positive.
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Vibe. on 28 09, 2020, 05:18:54 am: As I play in both LS and LV, I can confirm that the players who can't fight or they are scared to do so, this is the only way out for them. We waste so much of ammo and grenades on these guys just so that they go in some corner and bomb themselves? And not to mention the time we spend on killing these suiciders. It's annoying and poses as a great way to disturb other players gameplay. The main thing making me want to upvote this is because it literally happens all the time.Nevertheless, I feel that this suggestion is highly logical and it's only reasonable to add this in-game, Supporting.
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Ahmed? on 28 09, 2020, 05:43:35 pm: I faced the same problem a lot with a lot of players doing this to not get killed and this is very annoying to me because I have finished it and try to kill him and in the end he kills himself and this is what annoys a lot of players also in LS This problem exists but not like LV and I this suggestion will benefit Many of the players are for me because he will force the players who evade killing to force them to kill them or flee to not die.
Voting. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Compl3x on 29 09, 2020, 07:26:52 pm: This is actually quite frustrating if someone flees away while being Low and commiting suicide and dies. And this might fix it. The system should be like this - if a player gets damaged heavily, tries to die anyhow before 15 sec, the top damager gets the kill and the 2nd most recent damager gets the assist ( killfeed ). If the top damaging player died, and the player with low hp suicides, the kill should not be counted rather be an assist. Anyways I like the suggestion as it reduces inconvenience between players. So Positive :tick:
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Backsage on 30 09, 2020, 06:29:36 am: Seems trivial in my opinion. And what would be the point of getting the kill if he suicided? So you can make the game easier than it already is or to make you happy because you can't kill him? I could see this being helpful maybe in LV in order to capture the turfs. But for LS? Definitely no. That would just give you drugs (in ARs) that, in my opinion, you didn't really earn because you didn't actually kill the crim/cop. I vote negative.
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: seba on 30 09, 2020, 10:33:09 pm: Although I don't think that this generates many inconveniences, it is a bit annoying, and more in LV where most of the players spend a lot of money on grenades and RPG's, I think the idea is good, the time is fair, and it can be a good one implementation. Therefore, my vote is positive.
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: TroubleShot on 01 10, 2020, 12:42:30 am: This is actually annoying mostly in LV and sometimes on LS this abuse should be fixed, ppl that are gonna die that suicide when he's about to die is annoying by blowing himself or drowning himself by diving onto the water, there are many ways to do this kind of thing, thus im Positive
Title: Re: The kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Sleuth on 01 10, 2020, 01:59:44 am: I have faced that multiple times myself out there when fighting other players and they commit suicide to prevent me from taking the kill off them which is a clear imbalance. Adding this is only sensible and a good addition out of many to make the Player V Player much better.
Title: Re: [Arran] ill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: Stockholm1738 on 01 10, 2020, 12:52:48 pm: Specially when someone's holding a turf and he gets attacked inside of it, he kills himself to prevent you from having the 3% turfing-kill decrease. which it makes you take the turf slower even though he's fighting you.
Title: Re: [Arran] ill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: OhhKarim on 01 10, 2020, 01:25:29 pm: This may not be an issue in LS, but it is definitely an issue in LV, so I'm upvoting this suggestion because it's a waste of ammo and especially a waste of time if you've fought with a player for a minute and then when he's low HP he just kills himself. Right now, if someone suicides and you did you did damage, lets say, player 1 damaged player 2, and then player 2 suicided, it will say this in the killfeed:

+Player1 killed Player 2 (grenade)

So just let it be so that the person after the "+" gets the killcount whenever the player kills himself.
Title: Re: [Arran] ill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by any way
Post by: LDLnguyen on 01 10, 2020, 02:54:27 pm: This is exactly what I have always wanted it to be solved a long time ago, some players because they don't have enough HP to fight, they choose to kill themselves and kill themselves so that the other player doesn't count the kills, this should be corrected by the way the person commits suicide, it will be counted towards the kill of the person closest to their damage because for the sake of fairness this is definitely necessary to be corrected, it also helps people. do your best to fight, not choose suicide. I've also been playing as a gangster at LV for quite a while so I think this proposition makes perfect sense and I will support it positively.
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Lone on 03 10, 2020, 12:57:23 am: Positive. I think that many players find it annoying, that when we are doing pvp, the enemy runs and falls on purpose or he simply runs away and use /kill, this happens on both sides, criminal side and cop side and I imagine that also in LV, besides it is somewhat frustrating that one uses ammo or iron and oil to create armor for killing someone and this player commit suicide therefore, I support your request.
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Barcode on 03 10, 2020, 01:05:33 am: Hello Chain,
Firstly I think there is a system like this. If a criminal use -/surrender or -/kill command, when this criminal die or got jailed, its AP will be transfered from last damager or cop who is nearest to him/her.
In your proof this gangster abuse this situation and his attitude is really bad and against fair play. It should be added for sure. My vote is positive.
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Forager on 05 10, 2020, 11:47:01 am: I agree. Like for an example, a player suicide due to low health and to escape a death, it should be counted to the player who damage the last. Like a kill steal, the assist should get the kill for the player who suicide. Most of the player wanted this especially those players who takes their kill counts seriously. Obviously the killer damaged a lot so it must be his kill. I'm supporting this.
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Zeky on 06 10, 2020, 08:28:24 am: Totally agree with this suggestion, there's nothing more annoying then spending a fair bit of time trying to kill someone and then they resort to running away and killing themselves and then on top of that sms you to provoke you further. However, instead of making it for the last 15 seconds, it should only be 10 seconds as 15 seconds is too long of a cooldown for damage dealt in my opinion, other than that this suggestion is great and I would love to see it, especially in LV.
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Diamond on 07 10, 2020, 04:05:30 pm: After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 14 positive votes. ^{(1 positive vote wont be count due to one negative)
- 1 negative votes.

The suggestion remains as a neutral priority until next review.}
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Violet on 09 10, 2020, 02:36:21 am: Since its like a style for who can't even try to play fair iam voting up for you. And it happend to me today in LS "JFM" buildings while iam fighting a gangsters someone suicide from the roof. So its really bothering when you waste ammo whatever how many, still wasting money. Beside we dont have to report someone suicide to avoid dying from you because its really trivial thing.
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Axe on 09 10, 2020, 02:11:58 pm: Well, I see this is happening sometimes with me or always when I'm fighting a gangster or a cop when he reach 10 hp he suicide the kill won't count to me so I've wasted ammo etc. Then he suicide in 1 sec to avoid give me his kill which is a imbalance in my opinion not to mention that this happened with me in LS imagine this in LV after people wasting millions on grenade and RPGs I find this annoying a bit for both cities voting Positive.
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: FerociusWizz on 10 10, 2020, 01:58:23 pm: I have experienced it many times while playing as a gangster and in ARs when I damage a cop and suddenly he falls down and it get counted as Sucide , and in LV scenarios people usually kill themselves with their nades or RPGs so as the opponent want get his kill , sometimes it is really annoying so I'm definitely voting Positive
Title: Re: [Arran] kill will be counted for you if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Diamond on 14 10, 2020, 01:14:15 pm: After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 16 positive votes.
- 1 negative votes.

The suggestion marked as a Medium priority.
Title: Re: [++] [Arran] kill will be countable if your opponent tries to suicide by anyway
Post by: Arran on 19 10, 2020, 05:47:20 pm: - If you're fighting a player, then they suicide within 10 seconds of you harming them, you will be classed as the killer. (Arran + chaiNN)