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Ingame Community => News and Updates => Topic started by: Jason on 01 12, 2020, 12:39:47 am
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Criteria this suggestion meets: Increase entertainment
Many people including myself have expressed the opinion that 90 minutes is too long to wait between CEs. The current wait time of 90 minutes is the result of Arran's opinion that the more often CEs take place, the less enjoyable they are. While there is some truth to this statement, considering that CEs are a lot more fun now than when they were constantly running, I believe we need to find a balance between building anticipation and wait time. Considering that currently for every 1 CE we have 12 ARs (based on the fact ARs run for 7 minutes, 90/7), a person who plays for 1,5 hours a day (a realistic estimation of someone who is busy with work or school) could end up playing 12 ARs in a row and no CEs.
Why 45 minutes?
I believe that reducing the wait time to 45 minutes will help achieve the balance I'm talking about. We will have 6 ARs for 1 CE, which will switch up the gameplay often enough for the average player to be able to play both CE and ARs. Also, since older players were used to CEs being on constantly, I believe 45 minutes will still be a decent amount of time to build up anticipation.
Adjustments to rewards:
As seen here https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=367699.msg5390156#msg5390156, according to Arran, in order for this suggestion to be implemented, the rewards will need to be adjusted. The convenient thing about reducing wait time to 45 minutes, means that rewards can be balanced by halving them. Afaik, the current rewards are 7.2k and 8 of each drug per kill, which can be made to 3.6k and 4 of each drug. For assists it can be made to 1.8k and 2 of each drug (half of current).
Discuss.
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I have seen many people complaining about having to wait 90 minutes to have a CE for me it will be more beneficial if we can reduce the time to 45 minutes we will have more people satisfied and enjoy more of CE's I'm giving Positive because players want to play more in CE like I want to.
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I like your idea, mostly because I am one of those people who are very busy with studies and jobs and I can only play that if 1 or 2 hours in a row, reducing the waiting time between each EC from 90 minutes to 45 minutes I see it well , so more people will have the opportunity to at least be able to play 1 CE while they are in the game, in addition I also see logical reducing the rewards that you can obtain within it by half, this is super important since if it is not done it would be a bit unfair since you get that amount in an event that was rarely done on the server, but now you can attend it much more often. You have my support for this suggestion
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but you didnt mentioned the rewards that you get when you solo-killed a cop which is 24k along with 4000 RP and 24 drugs each. One time I managed to solo-kill (meaning that I was the only one that damaged him in the last 5 minutes or more inside or outside the CE.) a cop insde a CE (Ship Robbery to be exact) I was confused why it gave me a prize that's so large, when I looked at the kill log, there's no assist just my name and the cop's name.
Anyways back to the main topic, reducing it to 45 minutes seems good since alot of criminals wanted CEs more than ARs when cops are cracking. Halving the rewards will be a great idea in order for it to be more fair and prevent farming drugs, money and rp. im gonna go with Positive
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You made rewards weird. You just spiled them into two halves, Somehow I agreed reducing wait time between CEs to 45 minutes because 90 minutes is a lot of time. I witnessed it. Current CE with it system should be available every 45 minutes and we can have more fun often. Instead of participating about 12 ARs and lose the taste of Armed Robbery. By the ways I am suggesting you to update rewards and make it like the old CE. 1.7k RP for each kill. and 5 from all drugs. I think this would be better. I will stay Neutral for now.
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There is no need to much talking about that suggestion.90 minutes for me too long.45 Minutes is better for me because I sometimes can't play CE in 2 3 days.Not everyone plays this game a lot of hours and aslo people wants playing more CE.My vote is posivitive
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I think half the time will not solve the problem either, and the problem is that this is the most enjoyable thing on the server, so how does this get an hour and a half. Do you hold that this is good and you suggest that it be 45 minutes? I do not know the reason for your suggestion because it also will not solve anything after that a lot of people are bored with this matter and many of them have left the server, so why are they waiting, I do not know why the old system does not return only, which is 3 minutes and it will be much better than the current system and it will return Some people who left the server [positive]
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I'm really up for this change. When the new CE system was implemented it supposed to be an experiment which caused tons of disadvantages and despite of that it hasn't be removed + The idea of the experiment has never been discussed at this board which wasn't the best option if the experiment was going to last long. Overall I believe reducing the time will cause balance as right now balancing both sides at CEs seems to be harder than before. I am not saying anything about the old CE system, what I am saying is by reducing the time, sides will have more time of regrouping and preparing for CE. In other words, they will be more ready as it happens more often. Positive
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I'm always up to joining CEs, sometimes even giving up on turfing in LV only not to miss it. CEs have been the most thrilling part of LS for me and having such a big gap between them is disappointing. Even though 45 mins is still long, I hope to see better attendance by players to then lower the time even more. I'm positive.
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If you play for 3 hours a day, you only have the chance to attend in 2 CEs. If you want to attend in more CEs, you must give your hours. That's why people want to have fun while spending time. On the other hand, if you have a poorly performing computer like mine, this would be an even better idea. AR areas are different. Of course, so are CE areas. But playing on a different dimision will keep your performance stable. So this makes me play better.
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but you didnt mentioned the rewards that you get when you solo-killed a cop which is 24k along with 4000 RP and 24 drugs each. One time I managed to solo-kill (meaning that I was the only one that damaged him in the last 5 minutes or more inside or outside the CE.) a cop insde a CE (Ship Robbery to be exact) I was confused why it gave me a prize that's so large, when I looked at the kill log, there's no assist just my name and the cop's name.
Wasn't aware of that on account of it being such a rare occurrence, but my point of halving the rewards can easily apply to this situation as well (12k, 2000RP and 12 drugs). Thank you for bringing it up.
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Surely 90 minutes is pretty long to wait to play a 30 minute in-game event and we had tons of conversations whether that should be suggested or not. I am pretty confident that most of the players will enjoy playing 1 CE inside their hour, so there's pretty much nothing left to say than positive.
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90 Minutes is long period to be honest, and spliting it into two halfs will be good idea. That will reduce inconveniences and will increase entertainment inside our criminal activities. nothing pervert me to vote negative so voting Positive.
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45 minutes seems like a better wait time than 90 minutes. Sometimes I attend a lot of armed robberies that just gets boring and exhausting quite honestly. The CE is kind of refreshing after attending all of these ARs, and that's mainly because you wait an hour and a half to play a 20 minute-ish event. But I don't think reducing the time to 45 minutes would take its refreshing feeling away from it, and cutting the rewards by half since the wait time was also cut by half seems like a fair approach. I'm in favor of this.
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I like this suggestion. Because, I feel that participating in a crime event takes 90 minutes to join it and I feel that time is too long. This makes many criminals lose their balance in their operations. as if it were. reduced to 45 minutes per crime event which proved to be quite helpful in helping players lessen their boredom with everyday AR besides CE, now unable to function as often, I vote Positively
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I Have to say, I agree with you waiting 90 Minutes for CEs are so long and too desesperation I think implementing this will be more fun and not have to wait for too long as I know CEs gives 1k Reputation if you assist in a Kill or sometimes if you kill a Cop | Criminal so I think this is why we have to wait 90 minutes which is way too much time and big desesperation for both sides so no more frustration, Positive.
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I honestly was in-active for a while, but when I came back and saw that CEs are 90 minutes apart, I was very annoyed. CEs is probably the most fun thing in this server at the moment, and not everyone has the time to stay online for hours just to play a couple of em. So we definitely need this suggestion implemented.
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This board aims to reduce CE waiting time. We, it's very good because we wait for 90 minutes for CE. 90 minutes, seriously 90 minutes. I don't know when this system came. I miss the old system when we didn't had to wait for the next CE, only for 4 minutes. I miss that system because ARs are boring. But, reducing CE waiting time is also good. I hope you guys get more and more support. Good luck. Positive
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I think most of the community wants the old CE system back but I believe the old system is not balanced enough basically people gets bored easily and eventually quits doing it meanwhile 90 mins is literally too long to wait..imagine playing for 2 hours and only attending 1 CE it's a mess.so I guess your idea is the best choice and for sure it's gonna be balanced
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Either leave it as it is or decrease it back to 3 or 2 mins because either way waiting for 45 mins to play a single CE that often doesn't last a minute is still too much, therefore that won't make a difference in my opinion. CEs were not being played just because players don't like how the system is, they actually hate how the current restrictions prevent them from enjoying the CEs. Take a look at how CEs were years ago when everything was nice and simple, you will realize that none of those restrictions and recent updates was ever needed.
CEs were and are still a lot more fun and popular than ARs so you guys decided to make them "unique" and more active by adding a delay to them and are now, again, suggesting to reduce the wait time. Good job.
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Either leave it as it is or decrease it back to 3 or 2 mins because either way waiting for 45 mins to play a single CE that often doesn't last a minute is still too much, therefore that won't make a difference in my opinion. CEs were not being played just because players don't like how the system is, they actually hate how the current restrictions prevent them from enjoying the CEs. Take a look at how CEs were years ago when everything was nice and simple, you will realize that none of those restrictions and recent updates was ever needed.
CEs were and are still a lot more fun and popular than ARs so you guys decided to make them "unique" and more active by adding a delay to them and are now, again, suggesting to reduce the wait time. Good job.
It was literally one person who suggested it (Iron-Man) and Arran thought it was a good idea and added the 90 minute delay. Don't blame the community on this.
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It is literally unfortunate to imagine waiting for 90 minutes just to play one single criminal event, after that, it literally can end in 2 minutes or even in 1 minute, if cops weren't responding there due to lack of them. As we know, criminals are the ones who crack criminal events, and it is barely to see more than 10 cops inside one at the same time. So, even though this suggestion won't probably bring all the cops to play and attend one, it will at least give the active officers, who love this event, the ability to play it twice, instead of 1 in 90 minutes. Thus, I am positive.
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Although I don't like CEs as much, I can say that I miss the old system a little. I usually don't have time to join CEs (in the new system) For this reason, I think that 45 minutes will allow many players, including me, to participate because as stated in the statement, 90 minutes is really long and until that time comes, we can get bored or have to exit the game. we can be. I don't think a little time shortening would do much harm. So I'm Positive
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positive some criminal waiting at CE a long time of waiting then cops not cooperating there So I vote here positive.
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- Halved the criminal event wait time. Halved the payments. (Arran + Jason)