@Danzy Guess you have to explain it for the billionth time.But administrators can make it possible, we have to make changes if that for the sake of our community's safety.
Something you need to understand, L4s and admins literally have no access to your PM inbox so could you tell me how would they be able to know you've not modified the words said there using "Inspect Element"?? Or know that this person really flamed you? It's not punishable for a reason, it's not like they made it upon their mood or "yeah lets make not punishable it's useless".. There's a main reason why they've made it not punishable.
@Danzy Guess you have to explain it for the billionth time.Guess what too, they can clarify it if I disturbed them and give me a warning level wow :kek3: do you think if I insulted a staff he won't warn me? he will just use his powers, but if any kid did the same to me sadly they can't clarify it :'( use ur brains for love sake, I am supporting that idea Maximo and they have to punish those kids who's insulting everyone without getting even a warn, and please do not ask me to put them in ignore list, why should I put them in ignore list when they're insulting my whole family because of a game :ree:
Something you need to understand, L4s and admins literally have no access to your PM inbox so could you tell me how would they be able to know you've not modified the words said there using "Inspect Element"?? Or know that this person really flamed you? It's not punishable for a reason, it's not like they made it upon their mood or "yeah lets make not punishable it's useless".. There's a main reason why they've made it not punishable.
But administrators can make it possible, we have to make changes if that for the sake of our community's safety.If it's possible, then fill me up with the way to do it. (If it's possible, then your inbox will be insecure and basically every message you send and receive will be seen by the staff members and administrators).. Arran made it like that for your privacy.
Guess what too, they can clarify it if I disturbed them and give me a warning level wow :kek3: do you think if I insulted a staff he won't warn me? he will just use his powers, but if any kid did the same to me sadly they can't clarify it :'( use ur brains for love sake, I am supporting that idea Maximo and they have to punish those kids who's insulting everyone without getting even a warn, and please do not ask me to put them in ignore list, why should I put them in ignore list when they're insulting my whole family because of a game :ree:Common sense, when you go insult a staff they can literally see your message in front of their screen.. UNLIKE seeing it over a screenshot that could be easily manipulated.. I don't know what kind of "common sense" you got, put them into your ignore list and grow up a little bit.
If you're so bothered, you can give a staff your forum password so they can login and see it. Can't really see how else you expect us to be able to validate them.I can do it right now I don't have anything to fear of, who can handle that and I will give him my account? and I just need my rights, so you gonna deal with everyone insulted me in my forum pms?
I can do it right now I don't have anything to fear of, who can handle that and I will give him my account? and I just need my rights, so you gonna deal with everyone insulted me in my forum pms?
Isn't it possible to just make an API call around it instead? Or simply a form, just like with the punishlog page.Wouldn't adding an option to report the message (it just replicates the same message to the staff) be easier and wouldn't effect the security of it at all? everything will still be private unless you manually report the message (you can't edit it, it just gets duplicated to the staff inbox or reports list or whatever).
So then we can insert FROM, TO, and DATE, and then the PM will be shown to us.
Or is that too much of a security breach? It would feel weird to login onto someone else's account.
If you're so bothered, you can give a staff your forum password so they can login and see it. Can't really see how else you expect us to be able to validate them.Why not, we trust the staff team. But this solution not the right to do. It will complicate staff's work and it's not really what we want to. I hope you can make search engine like the mentioned above.
Enable reporting of personal messages - This option allows your users to report personal messages they receive to the administration team. This may be useful in helping to track down any abuse of the personal messaging system.I suppose this thing is there by default and should work if enabled by an administrator
I just tested "report to admin" feature and unfortunately it has 2 problems: it can only be reported to those with forum admin and it basically just sends me a PM with a quote which could be faked too so yeah :/
Ptole gave us a good idea which the one he is going to make report he will have to fill few informations which are the message from X, to Z in the Y date. By filling the staff will have search engine if the information are correct he will access the message.Imo, adding search engine is the best way that can't be faked.
Profile > Modify Profile > Personal Messaging > Receive personal messages from: > Buddies and Administrators onlyThe concept of this suggestion is to make Forum PMs punishable. Already staffs saying the same thing in any complaint related to this subject. Read the suggestion before replying please.
The concept of this suggestion is to make Forum PMs punishable. Already staffs saying the same thing in any complaint related to this subject. Read the suggestion before replying please.
Provide SMF mod for sending PMs to non-administrative staff and suggest it after. Private Messaging speaks for itself, if it's PRIVATE no staff should have access to your messages and if you're getting annoyed by players, either ignore them or disable receiving messages from everyone. This suggestion is nothing but to add a useless, childish rule for people who seek to get others punished. Soon you'll request discord messages to be monitored by staff, grow up.You can't call it childish/useless rule. Rules are clear if it's broken, the action must be taken. So, we can avoid a lot of toxic player including one of your group's leader that was reported by Dogigos for flaming his whole family heavily. I am not going to argue with someone that ignorant to the concept of discussing a thing. Furthermore, we know it's private message, but anyone can send you a PM it's not linked to your CIT Book friends or anything. So whoever gonna PM you his goal is to offend you with flaming your family, or threating you.. Here the actions must be taken.
Provide SMF mod for sending PMs to non-administrative staff and suggest it after. Private Messaging speaks for itself, if it's PRIVATE no staff should have access to your messages and if you're getting annoyed by players, either ignore them or disable receiving messages from everyone. This suggestion is nothing but to add a useless, childish rule for people who seek to get others punished. Soon you'll request discord messages to be monitored by staff, grow up.I wanna talk about a point here, I guess rules in the server is no longer strict like before, Like nowdays if someone flames a guy and the guy reports him the complaint goes invalid due to it being trivial or so, I guess that's making most of players being toxic and annoying to others since they know that they won't get punished, take a look at these complaints for example
As you can see above, these uneducated players heavily attacked the X player by flaming his family, disrespecting him. But all you have do is to add him in ignore list, and the one that flammed mustn't be punished. Just he is free to do that, any logic on this?
we can avoid a lot of toxic player including one of your group's leader that was reported by Dogigos for flaming his whole family heavily.
you need to back off and watch the words, you mentioned to me twice which is unacceptable, you called me an uneducated and toxic player while you never know if the PM is real or not so just fucking grow up and stop mentioning me in your senseless posts because that won't give you more attention when you start mentioning me in every single post you write.I am really so sorry if you thought that the words directed to you. But I never meant you specifically, except the 2nd reply to GoldNugget after I saw the post of Dogigos that contain a complaint against you. But I gave your complaint as an example. Don't ever take my words personally, because I really don't meant you. I am generalizing whoever being toxic toward our community individuals. So, I hope you accept my apologizes. @daddy
I already said that I agree about having the possibility to report to admins so, just grow up and stop mentioning players
you need to care about your groupmate because I'm that kind of crazy guy that can share to any curious staff his forum password and let him get into my account so your groupmate can get what he deserves for the pms he sent (◔◡◔)
As an option, a new complaint format could be created for such cases, where a complainant should be asked if he agrees to having his profile checked by a staff.Your idea is good, but this will make a risk, I mean any staff member will be accessing to everyone's PMs, including these whom denies their PMs to be checked. Which is that why this feature not added yet. Everyone saying that staff team mustn't access our PMs for privacy. But I think my idea about adding search engine is perfect. Or we might add format in complain board specifically for forum PMs but if you can explain how will it work? Like will administrators handle it or I don't know how.. Can you please clarify it, in details @puhQ
In case the complained player denies breaking the rules, a staff would open complainant's account to verify the content of a personal message. Logically, one of the players will have to lie in such a case, so either complained players won't even deny anything (and then the account check is not necessary), or someone will get warned for lying. Knowing both sides might get punished, people won't risk it (except those who don't really care about punishments), so it seems like a win-win. Haven't really thought of any downsides though.
But I think my idea about adding search engine is perfect.You would need access to the site's database, I assume only administrators have it. Giving it to other people is a security risk, so I guess that would only be possible if Arran himself dealt with all the complaints, which is obviously not possible. Arran can correct me if I'm wrong though, maybe there is a way to use the database in a better way.
Or we might add format in complain board specifically for forum PMsThat is exactly what I meant. Doesn't have to be an administrator, any staff can be of use (I guess). Something like this:
You would need access to the site's database, I assume only administrators have it. Giving it to other people is a security risk, so I guess that would only be possible if Arran himself dealt with all the complaints, which is obviously not possible. Arran can correct me if I'm wrong though, maybe there is a way to use the database in a better way.your idea so good, and I think will make community fair and no one will bored again.so easy for players to does this system
That is exactly what I meant. Doesn't have to be an administrator, any staff can be of use (I guess). Something like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/QdqyZjT.jpg)
You would need access to the site's database, I assume only administrators have it. Giving it to other people is a security risk, so I guess that would only be possible if Arran himself dealt with all the complaints, which is obviously not possible. Arran can correct me if I'm wrong though, maybe there is a way to use the database in a better way.
That is exactly what I meant. Doesn't have to be an administrator, any staff can be of use (I guess). Something like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/QdqyZjT.jpg)
You would need access to the site's database, I assume only administrators have it. Giving it to other people is a security risk, so I guess that would only be possible if Arran himself dealt with all the complaints, which is obviously not possible. Arran can correct me if I'm wrong though, maybe there is a way to use the database in a better way.What a fucking great idea, I agree with you 100% and that's what should be done, Arran yea took my password and dealt with the guy who insulted me but its more easy if we added your idea, thanks alot for your work on it and we appreciate that for sure, I am Positive 100% with that idea :tick:
That is exactly what I meant. Doesn't have to be an administrator, any staff can be of use (I guess). Something like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/QdqyZjT.jpg)
This will cause a security risk, just remember what Precious did with his powers as GLM. I'm not saying that staff members aren't trusted enough to handle someone's account, but this is definitely not the best option. An ex-staff member gave his password to someone so that person could participate in scamming, etc. Just imagine what someone can do with all of the passwords... I know that you'll have to change it later, but there are always people that forget to do that. What do you think about a remote call using any program like google meet/Microsoft teams/Teamviewer? If you're interested in getting someone punished, then you'll do whatever it takes to do that. You can give perm to the staff member through those programs, he'll check your PMs and then, they'll decide about the case.
This will cause a security risk, just remember what Precious did with his powers as GLM. I'm not saying that staff members aren't trusted enough to handle someone's account, but this is definitely not the best option. An ex-staff member gave his password to someone so that person could participate in scamming, etc. Just imagine what someone can do with all of the passwords... I know that you'll have to change it later, but there are always people that forget to do that.Don't ARMs get access to players' passwords when recovering their accounts?
What do you think about a remote call using any program like google meet/Microsoft teams/Teamviewer? If you're interested in getting someone punished, then you'll do whatever it takes to do that. You can give perm to the staff member through those programs, he'll check your PMs and then, they'll decide about the case.Yes, maybe. Discord screen share is an option as well, but the problem is, both staff and complainant will have to be online at the same time, it will most likely be hard to set up the call.
You are right, it's a security risk, which is why you decide for yourself if you have something to give away or not. As a precaution, another question could be added asking if complainant changed his password, or he would be asked to do it before sending it to the staff. That way, no real issue.
Discord screen share is an option as well, but the problem is, both staff and complainant will have to be online at the same time, it will most likely be hard to set up the call.
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@ArranThis guy named IRN has sent me an FMSG Request today and he started flaming me out of no where, He's being known as a rule breaker and a toxic player in the server so I guess there's no blame on Slow that he sent that PM, and I'm pretty sure that this guy named Iron has provoked slow because slow won't send such a PM for no reason.
Even CEMs and duty holders are cyberbullying in PM no staff or rule protect our players that unfair you must do something about it this suggestion is helpful really