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Title: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: 9R on 20 03, 2022, 12:29:20 am
Hello, Community.



I'm here to suggest the nerf of sawn-off for the following reasons:


The Damage
- This kind of damage that fast isn't found in any weapon.


The Combo


Overused


Las Venturas


I would like to mention the impact of sawn to combat-shotgun Since we can't play against sawn because of the sawn buff, So combat is simply useless.


The Solution is to nerf the sawn like it used to be since the beginning of CIT, Fun, Balance, Useable Weapon.



Extra stuffs:
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(https://i.imgur.com/Ze42iDi.png)

1/ A weapon that is almost disabled (Can't move and shoot) in CE is rank #3. I guess this is enough proof.
Note: CE is every 5mins, If CE is like before, Combat would be ranked as 5-6, Tops.

2/ There wasn't any discussion or anything regarding the buff of sawn-off in the first place, Happened ig.

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- Increased dual sawnoff damage from 5 to 7. (Arran + Lucifer)
- Increased single sawnoff (weapon mod in F9) damage from 9 to 11. (Arran + Lucifer)




 <3 50+ Positive votes and zero Negative's, I guess the community has spoken. <3

Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: iiSpeeD'511 on 20 03, 2022, 12:42:46 am
Couldn't add anything more, Sawn is really need to be nerf because everyone single player using it outside CE's, And I guess if Arran just stand in one war or a riot he will nerf the sawn immediately Upvote
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Ximbas on 20 03, 2022, 12:54:10 am
I agree, the damage of the sawn compared to the spaz is absurd, the spaz is totally useless. Upvote
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: XvabdullahzX on 20 03, 2022, 01:08:11 am
sawn is very strong and it should be nerf and everyone uses it to enter ce and ar and people die fast and shoot 4 shots per second and that person dies quickly
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: ALMenhaLi on 20 03, 2022, 01:47:18 am
Sawn-off was balanced I remember a guys named Seemi was using it and really doing good with it, Idk why the weapon got buff in the first place, But seems Arran made the buff because of the userstats, But if u gonna take the userstats incase, M4, Shotgun must get buffed too.

And the userstats clearly show the over damage even while combat has more kills, Sawn-off manage to get more damage somehome, i'll go UPVOTE.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: inOri on 20 03, 2022, 02:03:03 am
Sawn off - AK combo has been too annoying lately, you literally can't even compare between both Combat shotgun and Sawn off, there is a huge gap between both of them, this weapon really needs to be nerfed as it used to be, so I'm obviously voting positive.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Abuklil511 on 20 03, 2022, 02:05:43 am
the "dual" sawn-off should have never received a buff this strong , it should have been the single-sawn off as it is literally useless now, so I am with nerfing the dual sawn-off. Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Uzaki on 20 03, 2022, 04:03:09 am
Just the ability to run and be agile while youre at it, then added with its absurd amount of damage I dont see why moderators havent even saw how awfully overpowered Sawn off is right. You cant even wish to compete if youre only using the spaz or pump, especially if youre having pings such as mine or other PH players.

So, Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: AdNaN on 20 03, 2022, 05:43:36 am
Hello, Community.



I'm here to suggest the nerf of sawn-off for the following reasons:


The Damage
  • Sawn-off deals about 26 damage for each bullet which is 94-104 damage(4Shots).
  • The total time needed for sawn to shoot 4 bullets is less than is one second.
- This kind of damage that fast isn't found in any weapon.


The Combo
  • AK47, The damage of sawn, following it with spamming AK is the main tactic in LS for 100% of the sawn players Because there isn't any better combo whatsoever, Whatever you do, Whatever you use, You can't win in any scenario against that.


Overused
  • There is no doubt about the overusing of this weapon because of its Overpowered damage.
  • Isn't hard to use.


Las Venturas


I would like to mention the impact of sawn to combat-shotgun Since we can't play against sawn because of the sawn buff, So combat is simply useless.


The Solution is to nerf the sawn like it used to be since the beginning of CIT, Fun, Balance, Useable Weapon.



Extra stuffs:
Show content
(https://i.imgur.com/Ze42iDi.png)

1/ A weapon that is almost disabled (Can't move and shoot) in CE is rank #3. I guess this is enough proof.
Note: CE is every 5mins, If CE is like before, Combat would be ranked as 5-6, Tops.

2/ There wasn't any discussion or anything regarding the buff of sawn-off in the first place, Happened ig.

Show content
- Increased dual sawnoff damage from 5 to 7. (Arran + Lucifer)
- Increased single sawnoff (weapon mod in F9) damage from 9 to 11. (Arran + Lucifer)

To be honest I try many time to kill who has the sawn-off weapon in LS but my tries it doesn't work at all even in LV the weapon it's so strong and powerful too much and I think that not make a good experience in game and we know every day new players came to the server and when they see that they leave because It's pist them off and that not a good for us as a community so for that I'm positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: zurq on 20 03, 2022, 06:19:04 am
Sawn-Off is way more over powered, I guess it really needs a nerf and back like before. I am positive!
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: They SeeMi Rollin' on 20 03, 2022, 06:38:18 am
In past Sawn-off double and single both were perfect but later on in 2020 admins made it worse idk why and almost no one used it then. When people spoke to arran on mainchat to make it normal again but it was buffed more than enough. So I guess it is supposed to get nerfed inorder to get balanced with combat shotgun and shotgun. Positive  here.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: varG on 20 03, 2022, 06:51:31 am
The current combat style is basically sawn-off + ak47 which is literally what everyone does. Spas are barely being used and if you use them against a sawn-off player you basically lose all the time. Positive.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Zuvich on 20 03, 2022, 06:52:22 am
It's indeed overpowered, I'm positive.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Thug on 20 03, 2022, 08:24:12 am
You're right, it's overpower as fuck and yea have to be nerfed to make balance in each shotgun, I've tested the other shotguns ingame and it's not that easy to beat sawn user with combat cause it's moving gun, whoever is going to deal with that have to decrease the damage to make it balanced, I am Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Talha on 20 03, 2022, 08:39:12 am
I agree, even the combat shotgun users are forced to use sawn-off because sawn-off is way more better than combat shotgun. It should be nerfed. Voting positive.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Tareq. on 20 03, 2022, 08:48:32 am
You’re right, The sawn doing a overpower damage which is unfair for other players who playing with spas etc. it should be nerfed. Upvoting :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: AlabasterSlim on 20 03, 2022, 09:00:50 am
According to the playerbase the weapon is too "over powered" which is why I do support the topic of yours. It seems like the current playerbase do not know how to encounter the weapon and, it seems to be the main issue with the weapon.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: ~×Wk~ on 20 03, 2022, 09:11:42 am
SAWN OFF needs a nerf, the 4 bullets take away armor and a percentage of life, for players with lower ping it is super effective, SAWN OFF must be balanced,
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Danube501 on 20 03, 2022, 09:22:19 am
Unlike all the other weapons the Sawn-Off became the meta and no other shotgun will be in use because of how over powered it is changing the stats of the sawn off would the reduce the impact that it did Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: SuperSonic on 20 03, 2022, 09:45:43 am
I totally support your idea of balancing out the sawn-off, I myself love using it as it suits my playstyle, but I can see it have an effect on some of my friends who recently have started playing, I noticed this when they asked for any counter plays for the sawn-off and I couldn't answer them. so yeah Voting Positive   :tick:

peace,
SuperSonic
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Vilch0 on 20 03, 2022, 10:36:38 am
Absolutely agree about nerfing the sawed off. The other guys before me said explained everything. The weapon is so powerful imo a little nerf won't be bad for sure.  I'm voting Positive.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Farhan on 20 03, 2022, 10:50:39 am
Sawn off buff actually killed spas and made it limited to CEs only just bcs you can run with it there… I used to be spas fan but with such sawn off damage I am forced to use sawn off… There is literally no skill in using sawn off just a proper aim is enough… I am damn positive for its nerf.

I would also like someone to highlight the issue to rifle damage… It's almost near impossible for sniper to go against rifle where sniper is supposed to be more superior than rifle.. Rifle accuracy and damage is kinda more than its supposed to be, even the range reduction didn’t help the main issue at all.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: R2003 on 20 03, 2022, 11:27:20 am
The sawn off is too much OP I cant even handle that gun so im very positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Smith. on 20 03, 2022, 11:30:42 am
I agree with reducing the power of the Sawn-off gun because it is really too strong. I hope it's more balanced and won't cheat other players too much so your thoughts are good for the community. I will give a positive rating  :tick:
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Apollo on 20 03, 2022, 11:31:03 am
Sawn off over-powered without a doubt. From a close distance has the power to break an entire armor in less that a second. There are two options, either expand the frequency of the shots to last longer, or keep it as it is and reduce the damage which is being dealt from the shots that are fired. Making the crosshair even bigger would be ugly and nonsense tho.
Going positive with the idea of this weapon's nerf.
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Mark.- on 20 03, 2022, 12:50:10 pm
Voting positive, sawn became definitely an over powered gun and the dmg needs to be reduced. The number of players using it nowadays make it obvious
Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: odai on 20 03, 2022, 01:03:00 pm
I'm playing in LV and LS both and in both cities the sawn is everywhere the nob, the pro, everyone using it. I'm a combat user and I have to chance to play against that kind of damage that fast.

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Title: Re: Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: HosttyBoy on 20 03, 2022, 01:04:40 pm
25+ Positive votes. Marked as High priority.
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Xbandar on 20 03, 2022, 01:09:28 pm
Well, I'm not that active but I have been playing lately, The sawn-off is just something that I have never seen before.

I was mad because of the AK-47 spam but I used to counter that with Combat+Dealge, Nowadays you really can't do anything against Swan+AK.

So, I'll upvote this suggestion and hope the sawn gets the nerf it needs.  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: XAwe on 20 03, 2022, 01:22:45 pm
To be honest, The problem is if you look at /userstats you'll find the AK-47 is just way ahead and I believe half of that kills must count as sawn kills, Because every AK-47 user using sawn to lower the enemy health first  :tick:.
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: LiteKiller on 20 03, 2022, 01:45:22 pm
It’s damage is really overpowered and buggy, hence, im voting positive. :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: #jOKer on 20 03, 2022, 02:17:40 pm
Just nerf the sawn already, It's so hated and even the players who used it, want it nerfed, I can't see any reason to keep the sawn buffed.

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Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Pythh on 20 03, 2022, 02:21:50 pm
I don't know really if sawn needs nerf or not but for sure combat is dead and everyone else using the sawn including myself, So I believe the weapon needs to be nerfed.  Pyth.   :tick:  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Maybe'~ on 20 03, 2022, 02:24:43 pm
Sawn off is just so busted and need to get nerfed like before, And I would like to mention the fact that there isn't any negative votes yet, So the community seems to want it so badly.
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Smith. on 20 03, 2022, 02:40:12 pm
I have a question. Will we be rebalancing this gun soon? It needs to be fixed ASAP because it's mostly a very annoying gun with too much damage and it will make the game less fun I hope it will be fixed soon.
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: DarBka on 20 03, 2022, 02:48:14 pm
This suggestion must be implemented for sure, the damage of the sawn-off is totally unfair. As 9R mentioned, rarely any player is using spas or shotgun anymore(except in CEs). AK and sawn combo is being way overused. Same thing in LV, only a few players using spas, the rest using sawn to desync. Positive
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Akkaman on 20 03, 2022, 02:52:47 pm
just like everyone said its too op , and definitely needs to be reduced a little bit   :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Dark. on 20 03, 2022, 02:56:43 pm
Everything is mentioned above, everyone can realize the over-powered damage of sawn-off. Totall supporting this suggestion. Positive
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Vey on 20 03, 2022, 03:07:26 pm
I agree with the sawn-off nerf, I sure that everyone can realize the over-powered damage of sawn-off, Also I experienced it when fighting in war. :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Happy on 20 03, 2022, 03:25:33 pm
The sawn is brutal nowadays, without a sawn you can't do anything in 1vs1 that's ridiculous, just nerf it or make it equally strong with the SPAS !

Positive !
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: wilbert on 20 03, 2022, 04:11:33 pm
To be honest, since the Sawn get buffed, Combat Shotgun (Spas) become useless, a lot of players is using Sawn cuz is easy to use and got an absurd damage, a balance/nerf to this weapon will be nice, voting positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Madaus on 20 03, 2022, 04:13:45 pm
Sawn is really strong weapon, it can remove your armor in less than a second. Positive
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: NoSystem on 20 03, 2022, 04:40:39 pm
It’s damage is really overpowered. I agree with the sawed-off nerf. positive  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Tested69 on 20 03, 2022, 06:48:25 pm
Hello Community, I believe everything has already been said, The fact that sawn is the only weapon useable in outside CEs, is enough to get it nerfed. so I'm voting up   :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Ghost. on 20 03, 2022, 08:11:31 pm
This weapon is overpowered as hell, nerfing it is a really good idea, going positive. :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Taz on 20 03, 2022, 08:42:28 pm
It's a very powerful gun just a few minutes ago somehow he shot me and I felt from his gun 「(゚ペ) , it's really should be nerfed immediately
finally, I totally agree with the sawed-off nerf. positive for me  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Zeth on 21 03, 2022, 08:54:27 am
I'm positive on this the gun is clearly overpowered and as you mentioned that the AK & Sawn combo is very annoying thus nerfing the gun will bring balance between spaz & sawn
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Wish' on 21 03, 2022, 11:10:40 am
I'm agree to nerf this gun since its Overpowered gun, just make it balance so still sawn is usable. Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Fida2youn on 21 03, 2022, 01:52:35 pm
Sawn-off damage is awful and can beat any weapon compact etc, and LS tactic became so simple nowadays because everyone playing sawn + AK only, so I'm voting Positive
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: WooDy on 21 03, 2022, 10:19:22 pm
Sawn-off is overpowered weapon, especially in duel fights because players can shoot 4 bullets with less a second. My vote is positive
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: TwCafe on 22 03, 2022, 12:03:43 am
Auto upvote :tick:, members before me said all the reasons.
Voting without any own statement will be considered as useless post, and has been removed.
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Feaxygen on 22 03, 2022, 01:06:17 pm
You are staying at the good point , the sawn-off's damage is understandable high and lots off players began to change their weapons to combat to sawn and I can't play clearly with combat anytime because sawn is really overpowered so then there need to be a balance for good future to server. I am with you at your discussion upvote  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Nerf The Sawn-Off.
Post by: Arran on 22 03, 2022, 07:36:25 pm
- Reduced dual sawn off damage by 17%. (Arran + 9R)