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Title: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mordecai+ on 21 09, 2019, 04:48:17 pm
Hello everyone,today im suggesting to remove ''not being able to enter CE when you get a damage'' .It only makes cops farm kill outside of Criminal event.Im not even saying that it causes chaos.Since cops have a lot of advantages,criminals  are not even able to play with WL .Cops just waiting outside of CE to get easy kills,They don't even attend CE's(they are right since they have a lot of advantages outside).As I think no need to say anything else everything is clear,Criminals should be able  to enter  CE's when they get a damage like before.
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Should we remove not being able to enter CE when you get a damage?
Voting over! Yes: 14 (60%) No: 8 (34%) Maybe: 1 (4%)
Im not sure that everyone read the vote rightly but these are the results.

Please read this:Also with this Criminals won’t be able to leave from CE due someone may abuse it.
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https://youtu.be/EvxIPRwFaUM
Resolution might be bad but I hope this will show who is abusing this feature.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: dolphin00 on 21 09, 2019, 04:52:52 pm
Totally should be removed ,supporting this!
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Anuran on 21 09, 2019, 04:59:45 pm
Cop starts camping outside the CE once it starts and as a Wanted criminal, it's impossible to get in the CE bcz the Cops starts spamming ammo on u from the entrance.

I totally agree on this, it's now p much impossible for a wanted criminal to join a CE in peak hours both before start or late bcz of cops' camping
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mello on 21 09, 2019, 05:03:43 pm
The problem here is criminals getting spawn killed as they leave CEs, not being killed while entering CE but "spawn protection for X seconds when you leave CE" should be implemented to prevent it, not the thing you suggested because not every criminal goes to a CE from another CE. This way you are just suggesting something that can be abused to unfairly avoid being arrested by cops.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mordecai+ on 21 09, 2019, 05:05:27 pm
I agree that spawn killing is a problem but "spawn protection for X seconds when you leave CE" should be implemented to prevent it, not the thing you suggested because not every criminal goes to a CE from another CE, this way you are just suggesting something that can be abused to unfairly avoid being arrested by cops.
This suggestion has  nothing to do with spawn killing ,We are talking about we can't enter,not we can not run.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Apple.- on 21 09, 2019, 05:08:10 pm
The problem here is criminals getting spawn killed as they leave CEs, not being killed while entering CE but "spawn protection for X seconds when you leave CE" should be implemented to prevent it, not the thing you suggested because not every criminal goes to a CE from another CE. This way you are just suggesting something that can be abused to unfairly avoid being arrested by cops.
No, that's barely an issue, it's fair.

Anyways, I definitely upvote this suggestion, cops get easy kills by waiting outside the next CE and get easy kills when you try to enter, it's hard to avoid the bullets and go in if there are atleast 2 cops.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: CarvajaL on 21 09, 2019, 05:10:39 pm
I am a cop but I am positive to your suggestion. Cops not enter there until CEs starts. All cops waiting criminals outside of CEs. I think criminals should move free because they are playing against rules.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mello on 21 09, 2019, 05:17:30 pm
This suggestion has nothing to do with spawn killing ,We are talking about we can't enter,not we can not run.
This happens when criminals move from a CE to another one most of the time, that's why I mentioned spawn killing. I edited my post to a more reasonable one just before you posted but apparently it was a bit late.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: SnooP on 21 09, 2019, 05:40:32 pm
It's quite absurd that cops are usually camping outside CE's waiting for criminals to enter and it becomes impossible for us to avoid their shots when there are at least 2 or 3 cops waiting outside. Therefore, I am supporting this suggestion because IMO this will make cops enter CEs instead of trying to catch criminals outside/stopping them from entering.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: WooDy on 21 09, 2019, 07:45:03 pm
If this removed, criminals will abuse entrance too. They will exit and kills cops and reenter again.

How about replacing it with players who enter CE can't leave it or they can't reenter again?
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mordecai+ on 21 09, 2019, 07:53:13 pm
If this removed, criminals will abuse entrance too. They will exit and kills cops and reenter again.

How about replacing it with players who enter CE can't leave it or they can't reenter again?
It won't hurt anybody believe me ,if there are many  cops outside they still have risk to die,mm.That'd be good to if criminals couldn't leave the CE good idea.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Senza on 21 09, 2019, 07:54:08 pm
1 month ago exactly I saw how fucked up the system was when players could join CE any time, they always left CE and shot cops or even kill them and instantly go in before they die, players trolled a lot. I think the current system is fine.  :cros:
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Medusa on 21 09, 2019, 07:55:48 pm
If this removed, criminals will abuse entrance too. They will exit and kills cops and reenter again.

How about replacing it with players who enter CE can't leave it or they can't reenter again?
If a criminal abuse it, then he has no right to re-enter CE again. Means if you enter CE, then you exit just to kill cops you can't re-enter again. You MUST wait for the next CE. Or maybe it can punishable if someone abuse it.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Apple.- on 21 09, 2019, 08:18:37 pm
If this removed, criminals will abuse entrance too. They will exit and kills cops and reenter again.

How about replacing it with players who enter CE can't leave it or they can't reenter again?
WooDy has a great point, if you leave, would be fair if they make you unable to join again.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mordecai+ on 21 09, 2019, 08:28:27 pm
You're right, we don't need to remove it.
Can you give me a reason?None said no need to remove it.

And I added A thing “Criminals won’t be able to leave the CE”
If this removed, criminals will abuse entrance too. They will exit and kills cops and reenter again.

How about replacing it with players who enter CE can't leave it or they can't reenter again?
So I think problem is fixed now
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Sinon on 22 09, 2019, 04:18:16 am
Its really annoying and I by my self suffered from this , we really need to remove it ASAP  :tick:
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Atheer on 22 09, 2019, 07:31:24 am
I'm totally agree with you because most of the cops are deliberate to do that. So it needs to be fixed ( Speaking as a cop ). and also there is something trivial, The criminals also trying to get WL. Anyway Upvoting
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mitrok on 22 09, 2019, 11:12:52 am
This is unfair to cops also if you let criminals enter even if they get damage they will do like same what they did before they will exit and kill cops and enter again this will make no sense and in this new system you are right cops are camping out side waiting you until you enter.
If this removed, criminals will abuse entrance too. They will exit and kills cops and reenter again.

How about replacing it with players who enter CE can't leave it or they can't reenter again?
I'm with this suggest which is posted by WooDy , He is right , you can enter even you get damage and you can't exit and enter again to farm cops outside
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: grizzeRRR. on 22 09, 2019, 01:44:31 pm
Yes , remove it and if criminal got shoot by cop , they cant leave CE.Up-voting
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Zuvich on 22 09, 2019, 04:45:41 pm
It's really annoying and I personally do not like it, I want that feature to be removed but I'm afraid of players abusing it. Well, I'll go neutral for now since many players disagreed on this suggestion due to abusing issue.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mordecai+ on 22 09, 2019, 05:15:24 pm
It's really annoying and I personally do not like it, I want that feature to be removed but I'm afraid of players abusing it. Well, I'll go neutral for now since many players disagreed on this suggestion due to abusing issue.
Currently nothing is abusable,if crims can't leave from CE no probs, I also added it to suggestion.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Zuvich on 22 09, 2019, 07:26:24 pm
Then I am supporting this idea, If criminals can't go outside then there's no abusing issue.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mordecai+ on 22 09, 2019, 08:47:01 pm
WooDy explained everything, it's going to be abused.

Imagine you're cop and you hit a crim 100 time and he enter that CE, isn't unfair ?
Are you sure do you know how to read ? He said that it might be abusable if Criminal Leave kill and re-enter.So we added a thing  to suggestion called ''Criminals can't leave CE when they enter'' and you still call it abusable what is abusable how can anyone abuse it ?
And hitting 100  time and he enter ce... Not even possiblity you can kill anyone with atleast 5 shotgun hits.We are here to discuss not to put stable Opinions ,and please next time bother yourself to read.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: CJGIANNHS on 22 09, 2019, 09:45:19 pm
I dont think this is necessary to change it...
the only reason to agree its about how cops spamming to CE, so +1
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Shane on 22 09, 2019, 10:19:01 pm
 as long as they can not leave after they enter. then positive from me. because this personally happaned with me that the crims keep going it and out which is useless imo. up-voting
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: ReZn0v on 22 09, 2019, 11:42:34 pm
Yeah am done with this we really need to remove it , cops always camp outside the next CE entrance waiting for crims to come so they can kill them all ,and they won't join till the last seconds so they can make sure they don't miss any wanted criminal trying to enter so yeah it's kinda impossible to keep your wanted level while trying to get into CEs
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: LenoXFTW on 23 09, 2019, 12:26:10 am
It's a very logical thought, but on the one hand it's annoying, but I think it's fine and shouldn't be changed.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: FearLess on 23 09, 2019, 02:05:43 am
I respect all your words but why we need Everything to be easy or you looking for a easy way to enter and exit as you want why you wan't to kill us outside the CE and re enter once again after you entered Already as I see that Update is good and fair for both sides downvote
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Woodz on 23 09, 2019, 05:29:47 am
I respect all your words but why we need Everything to be easy or you looking for a easy way to enter and exit as you want why you wan't to kill us outside the CE and re enter once again after you entered Already as I see that Update is good and fair for both sides downvote
How is that update fair to the criminals? All you have to do as a cop is shoot one bullet at a criminal trying to enter, and its usually just a bunch of cops camping at the entrance of CEs, because it's basically free kills.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: xGreatben on 23 09, 2019, 05:52:13 am
The modification of not being able to enter CE after you get damage is mainly protecting Police sides having a fair fight and preform a proper response to those Hit and Run outside CEs.

Before that was implemented, Polices are often being engaged but unable to protect themselves from further attacks or performing an arrest due to criminals evading the arrest by entering CEs.

In before the situation become eased, I am voting Downvote to this suggestion.

Also, I would like to point out that. There is no what you call "Fair" situation in between CnR.. In this case, I cannot see why would criminals side would like to gain more advantage even tho they're in upper hand already.

Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Sinon on 23 09, 2019, 06:28:20 am
I understand your opinion ben but there is few CEs when they are so close to each other like BR so when you shoot at me I won't be able to join the other CE while I cant even dodge your bullets I don't have observation haki ...
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: -Joseph- on 23 09, 2019, 07:12:26 am
I could understand every one of you especially after reading all your posts, but we still have no right to judge if it's fair or no because every one of us is going to standby the side he's playing unless those who belong to "LAW side" but they still vote by "yes" which shows what's the point by that and you all know the reason, but yeah, do you expect a cop to agree on a removal of an "unfair advantage" that he has against a criminal? and the same thing goes for criminals and due to that, we shouldn't look through things by only one side, just a month ago before the modification of not being able to enter a criminal event after being damaged as a cop I was totally annoyed as some criminals use to attack us outside for non-reason then and once we are about to get them, they avoid being killed even if they had 5HP which also gives an advantage to criminals over cops, that's why none of you have the right to judge if it was really fair or nope. If you guys would like to find a solution to that then there should be a fair and balanced system between both sides such as giving the ability to criminals to enter if they don't get more than -50HP damage. Otherwise, they will not be able to, why not? isn't that fair enough for both? I do understand you all but I still didn't get the point of suggesting the addition back if it still gives criminals an unfair advantage over police too so far? what I wanted to say is, I am totally against both solutions, the current and recent system as they both give unfair advantages to both sides due to that it'd be better suggesting a balanced system as an example of what I stated above. Downvoting for this. Thanks for your attention.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Mordecai+ on 23 09, 2019, 08:49:20 am
The modification of not being able to enter CE after you get damage is mainly protecting Police sides having a fair fight and preform a proper response to those Hit and Run outside CEs.

Before that was implemented, Polices are often being engaged but unable to protect themselves from further attacks or performing an arrest due to criminals evading the arrest by entering CEs.

In before the situation become eased, I am voting Downvote to this suggestion.

Also, I would like to point out that. There is no what you call "Fair" situation in between CnR.. In this case, I cannot see why would criminals side would like to gain more advantage even tho they're in upper hand already.
I don't get the way you are always blaming CnR ,Cops with  LOTS of advantages currently ruining a criminal's CIT life,and the fact that I dont REALLY understand is you are calling criminals on ''Upper Hand'' you should be blind or what,what kind of advantages we have against cops ?Im going to count few advantages of Cops against criminals.
•Cops born with armor(criminals don't)
•They earn money from killing criminals(Criminals only earn with finishing CE and AR which we can not enter now)
•Cops have stinger (which is ruining criminals car and criminals don't)
Well im okay with these advantages  tho but It's only 3 of your advantages i'm not against of being cop but please don't blame CnR on annoying  situation .Im not here to get advantage to my side just trying to solve a annoying problem,I will try to record a video about it, with this way I think we all will understand how annoying is this.
Added a video.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Fraude on 23 09, 2019, 12:46:01 pm
Yes, it must be removed from this server. We can't enter the CE when we get a damage. Cops are waiting us in CE door and we can't enter the CE. They can enter the CE when we shoot to them. It is not fair. CE system mean criminals and cops will fight in inside but wanted criminals can't enter the CE. I am supporting your idea.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Ahmad L9 on 23 09, 2019, 02:45:29 pm
didnt read any comment, idk but as I saw from the title

This shit makes all criminal rage because when you've high WL and someones shoots you, you'll not be able to enter the next CE and sometimes you miss it because of that, so it will be very helpful


I just got this two times on a row and I actually got annoyed a lot.
Title: Re: Removing not being able to enter CE when you get a damage
Post by: Arran on 23 09, 2019, 05:55:01 pm
This was to stop those trolls who repeatedly enter and exit over and over and kill cops outside. Since you'd rather not be able to exit after entering, I've done but only for wanted criminals since only wanted criminals are possible trolls.