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Title: [Brian] Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: FalconHawk on 13 11, 2020, 01:36:59 pm: Criterias of the suggestion: Increasing entertainment, improve community and socialization.

My suggestion is changing some stuff in waste manager job and turning it into a fun and co-op job. There aren't many civilian jobs in the server that you can work with your friends so maybe if we modify this boring job a little, it could actually be fun as you will be playing with your friends (if you have any). First of all, the borderlines of the trashmaster needs to be edited. I don't have enough knowledge about these stuff but I was told that its doable. The borders of the vehicle from right and left back should be accessible to the players, so that they can jump on those pads and glue, just like in real life.

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So that, for example, 3 players can work together to collect the bags in front of the houses. One will be the driver and other two will be collecting trash bags. This gif shows how you can't jump on those pads right now:

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So this is how I imagine the borderlines of the trashmaster look like (I know the front is not like that but ignore that, focus on the back of the vehicle):

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It should be changed to something like this:

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or even this (if you can accept the logic of players standing in trash):

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So this is how it should look like:

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Conclusion and some points:
>The borderlines of the Trashmaster vehicle should be edited.
>Non-VIP Waste Managers should be able to glue on Trashmaster.
>The trash bags spawning for players should be server-sided.
>The truck capacity must increase by %30.
>The payment should be increased by %20 as there will be some competition.
>You can only put the trash into the vehicle if the vehicle is stationary.
>You should be able to put trash into other players' Trashmaster.

I believe the suggestion is simple and doesn't need walls of text.
Edit: Added the last point.
Title: Re: Turning Waste Manager job into a cooperative job
Post by: Senza on 13 11, 2020, 01:46:08 pm: Why can't it be optional, if I like to play as a waste manager, why must I play with other 2 players who would slow me down or they won't be available at my playing time?
Title: Re: Turning Waste Manager job into a cooperative job
Post by: FalconHawk on 13 11, 2020, 01:54:00 pm: Quote from: Senza on 13 11, 2020, 01:46:08 pm
Why can't it be optional, if I like to play as a waste manager, why must I play with other 2 players who would slow me down or they won't be available at my playing time?

I didn't say you must play with 2 more players. You can still play it alone.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Pyxtro on 13 11, 2020, 02:22:59 pm: To be honest, I really liked your opinion. In real life, garbage trucks have 3 employees in total. Waste manager job is not as good as before. It can be very boring. If the add-on you mentioned can be integrated into the game, I think it will really have a nice effect in the friend environment. Payments continue in the same way, we can finish the job easily and our level of entertainment increases a little while doing our job. Thanks for your consideration. I fully support it. Positive ! :tick: Good luck.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: MacMan on 13 11, 2020, 05:17:36 pm: Well, fuckin decent idea, I really liked it. But uhm it's not possible to add something to the trucks back, but we can just attach the players in a position of the truck where it i'd appear like you want, I think it's possible yeah. So no need to change the trashmaster, I can maybe bind a key that when you're close to the truck and you press it you will be attached to the vehicle in the same place you wanted.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Scarface. on 13 11, 2020, 05:36:40 pm: Greetings

I wanna say that Falcon has made a good topic here. Waste Manager is very boring in CIT but in real life, 3-4 people work together as a squad. And if we play it that way with our friends, it would become interesting and this can even bring the Waste Manager job alive too. Positive
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Ahmed? on 13 11, 2020, 06:00:01 pm: It is also a good thing all the people who do this job all over the world do the same thing which is called the collective Bilal, and this will be better for all players because teamwork is the basis of everything, but if there are no friends to play with you, you can play alone positive :tick:
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: DraGo on 13 11, 2020, 09:32:59 pm: Brilliant idea to be honest.Especially after they nerfed this job I noticed that it's being useless since it's boring in the first place.
I believe this will bring entertainment and it will be fun to share and co-operate a civilian job with your friends.Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Maximo on 14 11, 2020, 01:55:00 pm: This remind me with old Fisherman job, you can glue with your friends in boat and work togather, it is removed. I liked your suggestion I believe it can make Waste manger job more relastic and will motivate players to work this job. Especially if groupmates they want to work togathers to clean those streets from garbages this will help them to work togather and increase the entertainment in the job. As currently the job is inactive, rarely you find peoples working it. Positive.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Arran on 14 11, 2020, 02:24:57 pm: I thought Brian already added some co-op component to waste manager?
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Emre on 14 11, 2020, 03:24:37 pm: The idea is simple, funny, and realistic. Those there factors makes this idea brilliant. We need some new things in civ side since we tried all the jobs and learned all the tricks. My vote is positive because anything that will be able to make people have good fun with their friends in any side or job is a must add. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Nepenthe on 14 11, 2020, 03:32:15 pm: Look at this idea! I laughed when I tried to imagine 3 players trying to this job while talking in vc with a little rp. This looks so much fun and I really want to work with my lads as co-op. The novels are pretty enough in co-op but this is a new level. My vote is positive :tick:
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Zeky on 14 11, 2020, 03:46:21 pm: Just need some clarification as I don't think you mentioned it, what if I just get on the job and hop on my friends Trashmaster and then just go AFK, let my friend do all the work while I sit there and farm money. I think you need to elaborate more on this and maybe think of something the players sitting at the back can do in order to prevent people from abusing/farming money while being AFK - maybe adding a timer like AR robbery timer? If you don't move in 20 seconds it'll start beeping and then you'll lose the mission if you don't move, not sure if you've had another idea for this but we definitely need an explanation for this or further elaboration.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: wetto on 14 11, 2020, 04:05:49 pm: Co-op things is a must need in CIT since there isn't much jobs you can do at the same time helping your friends like fire fighter. As a civ side pmayer I'm very interested in this idea and I don't think this will bring any unfair. My vote is positive :tick:
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: FalconHawk on 14 11, 2020, 04:23:17 pm: Quote from: Zeky05 on 14 11, 2020, 03:46:21 pm
Just need some clarification as I don't think you mentioned it, what if I just get on the job and hop on my friends Trashmaster and then just go AFK, let my friend do all the work while I sit there and farm money. I think you need to elaborate more on this and maybe think of something the players sitting at the back can do in order to prevent people from abusing/farming money while being AFK - maybe adding a timer like AR robbery timer? If you don't move in 20 seconds it'll start beeping and then you'll lose the mission if you don't move, not sure if you've had another idea for this but we definitely need an explanation for this or further elaboration.

Only the driver (owner of the Trashmaster) will get the payment once they unload their capacity (like how it is now). This is where the communication and co-op also occurs, The owner of the vehicle should divide the payment they got to their friend(s). If you have been AFK and your other 2 friends did all the job, they may not send you some of their profit.

It really doesn't matter if you are AFK or not, as the driver will decide how to split the money they earned, if your friend is a scumbag and did not give you your deserved share, don't work with him again? We have team system (/team) but I did not want to add it to the suggestion to avoid making it more complicated.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Zeky on 14 11, 2020, 04:40:41 pm: Quote from: FalconHawk on 14 11, 2020, 04:23:17 pm
Only the driver (owner of the Trashmaster) will get the payment once they unload their capacity (like how it is now). This is where the communication and co-op also occurs, The owner of the vehicle should divide the payment they got to their friend(s). If you have been AFK and your other 2 friends did all the job, they may not send you some of their profit.

It really doesn't matter if you are AFK or not, as the driver will decide how to split the money they earned, if your friend is a scumbag and did not give you your deserved share, don't work with him again? We have team system (/team) but I did not want to add it to the suggestion to avoid making it more complicated.

I don't really think that'll work, you'll have people abusing this by paying their friends little to no money at all. If I'm driving from checkpoint to checkpoint and I've got friends just sitting at the back for them to come and take a portion from my earnings, I'd just rather not even have them there in the first place seeing as they're not doing anything anyways don't you think? If it's all about communication in order to not feel like you're working for long periods of time, we've got multiple chat boxes such as FMSG, group chat, squad chat, unit chat etc, so what's the point? Speaking about units, if people wanted to split their payments with friends just invite them to a unit instead of implementing such a suggestion.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: FalconHawk on 14 11, 2020, 04:53:52 pm: Quote from: Zeky05 on 14 11, 2020, 04:40:41 pm
you'll have people abusing this by paying their friends little to no money at all.

Then don't work with those 'friends' again? You are not obligated to.

Quote from: Zeky05 on 14 11, 2020, 04:40:41 pm
If I'm driving from checkpoint to checkpoint and I've got friends just sitting at the back for them to come and take a portion from my earnings, I'd just rather not even have them there in the first place seeing as they're not doing anything anyways don't you think?

Again, seems like they are not really your friends but more like scammers. If such things happen, don't work with those people? Again, you are also able to work alone. You are NOT obligated to play with your 'friends'.

Quote from: Zeky05 on 14 11, 2020, 04:40:41 pm
If it's all about communication in order to not feel like you're working for long periods of time, we've got multiple chat boxes such as FMSG, group chat, squad chat, unit chat etc, so what's the point?

For example, the biggest difference between communicating with in-game chat and in any voice chat is, you lose time by typing and you can't both type and do your job at the same time, however, you can both work with %100 efficiency and still talk with your friends. I also never said its about "in order to not feel like you're working for long periods of time", I have never mentioned anything about 'time' but rather the ability of working with your 'friends'.

Quote from: Zeky05 on 14 11, 2020, 04:40:41 pm
Speaking about units, if people wanted to split their payments with friends just invite them to a unit instead of implementing such a suggestion.

As far as I know, the waste manager job pays with materials (it mentions how much they worth as well), so it is not possible to share the income with your friends via Unit system.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Brian on 14 11, 2020, 05:32:37 pm: Quote from: MacMan on 13 11, 2020, 05:17:36 pm
Well, fuckin decent idea, I really liked it. But uhm it's not possible to add something to the trucks back, but we can just attach the players in a position of the truck where it i'd appear like you want, I think it's possible yeah. So no need to change the trashmaster, I can maybe bind a key that when you're close to the truck and you press it you will be attached to the vehicle in the same place you wanted.

You can edit model of truck.
Title: Re: Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Resko. on 14 11, 2020, 11:13:35 pm: Such a good idea! the add of a co-op way to job as citizen had a lot of potential in almost all jobs. I mean, we can add "co-op" rutes to truck job for example, making a kind of "SanAndreas-truck simulator". My vote is totally POSITIVE :tick:.
Title: Re: [Brian] Being able to play Waste Manager job as co-op
Post by: Brian on 11 04, 2021, 07:48:18 pm: :tick: :thumb: