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Title: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 200m distance from AR.
Post by: Sirat on 03 03, 2024, 01:42:36 pm
Suggestion: Disable shooting while glued on hummer when the danger level is above 1.6 or below 1.6 for both side to make people play armed robberies more.

I have always heard of why cops are not attending armed robberies, as a police chief the two main reasons I know is backstabbers and hummer, according to a recent update, the hummer can only have 4 cops or 4 criminals glued if the danger level is less than 0.8 or greater than 1.8. But I don't think it was as useful as I imagined because four people can glue to a Hummer while four more can sit inside and fire. not only that the updates also disable more than 4 people to glue on hummer, which creates a little bit of confusion, so it's better if more than 4 criminals or cops can glue on hummer even after 1.6 (above or low) danger level, but only disable the shooting because it's killing the Ar and ce concept and one of the major reason why cop side is suffering, They want to play armed robberies, but if a criminal hummer keeps roaming around near ar, which also gets auto repair (and not to mention how buggy this vehicle is), it is incredibly hard to even go near . (video proof in the end of the suggestion), especially when cops are heavily outnumbered and can't even come near to ar. This video is a proof which I recorded after the update that how hummer with 4 people glued and 4 insides are not letting cops near to Arl when cops are highly outnumbered, your input needed
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https://streamable.com/7q8exj https://streamable.com/5kem41

Roaming around arl and not doing robbery , just killing cops who are playing AR, and its really hard to get this vehicle too
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https://streamable.com/7n9s4r

I think its time to get rid of this trashy vehicle gameplay to balance the CNR and one of the main reasons why cop side is not attending ars, backstabbers and Hummer! not only that it will make criminals to play ce ars and not roaming around the ar to not letting cops attend it! also the numbers I provided (above or below 1.6 danger level) can be changed if you guys have better numbers.

Also, I would like criminal councilor team to talk with other cbs as well as noted criminals on this suggestion too so that they can understand the problem cop side is suffering.

Note: I will provide more videos if you guys need but its obvious how hummer is killing ar.

Edit: Disabling firing when glued on hummer when you are near to armed robbery with less than 131 meters of distance. Here are some examples of what 131 meters away from AR will look like. https://imgur.com/a/8NRQdJQ
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: MandM on 03 03, 2024, 03:08:57 pm
Wouldn't this make the Hummer even unworthy of 20 million? and not 70?
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: FreezingX on 03 03, 2024, 03:40:38 pm
Wouldn't this make the Hummer even unworthy of 20 million? and not 70?

Exactly, to be honest, people paid a lot of money for a vehicle to gather together and do anything, and I believe there was already a nerf regarding the glued people on Hummers with the danger level. I understand that it is a boring game while players try to play at ARs and they arrive to backstab, but I believe the prior restriction is adequate. Consider how cops would patrol to kill high WPs, which I'm sure occurs but I've never heard anyone complain about it. I mean, the more restrictions, the less valuable the vehicle becomes. As for me, I don't care about that vehicle because I never backed people grouping together and ruining the CnR, just thinking about what's best for everyone involved.
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: Safwan on 03 03, 2024, 03:45:31 pm
My opinion is that the current system is fair enough. Some cops are lazy to chase, and they want the criminals to fight them 1v1. It's how criminals work, to be honest.  Hummer costs 70 million not everyone can afford to buy it.
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: MG on 03 03, 2024, 03:55:30 pm
no ty  :cros:
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: Sirat on 03 03, 2024, 04:32:23 pm
We once had a cybertruck, which was an overpowering vehicle with a high cost, however it was also nerfed by its cost. I don't think "70m" is a concern when we're working on balancing the CNR rather than letting people play AR then backstabbing them, which is completely destroying the AR concept. maybe another suggestion we might recommend disabling shooting with a Hummer near an armed robbery? My main reason for making this recommendation is not to nerf this vehicle, but to discourage criminal and cops from using it near armed robberies and to allow everyone to play fairly.
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: HeadBoss on 03 03, 2024, 04:36:58 pm
That's going to be considered as Hummer nerfing. I would support the idea of disabling shooting while glued NEAR AR. That's another reason why we have to make borders and limits around AR Area.
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: BOMBKHAN on 03 03, 2024, 04:42:10 pm
 :cros: :cros:
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: Sirat on 03 03, 2024, 05:15:09 pm
So I am going to replace the suggestion with disabling firing when glued on hummer when you are near to armed robbery with less than 131 meters of distance. Here are some examples of what 131 meters away from AR will look like. https://imgur.com/a/8NRQdJQ

wdy guys think
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: Safwan on 03 03, 2024, 05:22:25 pm
So I am going to replace the suggestion with disabling firing when glued on hummer when you are near to armed robbery with less than 131 meters of distance. Here are some examples of what 131 meters away from AR will look like. https://imgur.com/a/8NRQdJQ

wdy guys think
I agree with that.
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: FreezingX on 03 03, 2024, 05:46:32 pm
So I am going to replace the suggestion with disabling firing when glued on hummer when you are near to armed robbery with less than 131 meters of distance. Here are some examples of what 131 meters away from AR will look like. https://imgur.com/a/8NRQdJQ

wdy guys think
Sure, why not.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Ammar1 on 03 03, 2024, 06:39:36 pm
Mmm, this is good for the police, but as for criminals, it is not suitable for us, so it is better to be old, and also the police sometimes ride a Hummer, their number is 10, and they have machine guns. Why do you want to do this? Also, there are active police at night, and the last time I was playing alone, there were a lot of police on the Hummer and they killed me, and you are complaining to the criminals? Not a bad idea  :cros:
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Coke on 03 03, 2024, 06:50:08 pm
Arran seems to have forgotten to lock this board people can post on it freely.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Sirat on 03 03, 2024, 07:14:14 pm
Arran seems to have forgotten to lock this board people can post on it freely.

Yes already messaged him let's see
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: FerociusWizz on 03 03, 2024, 08:23:25 pm
So I am going to replace the suggestion with disabling firing when glued on hummer when you are near to armed robbery with less than 131 meters of distance. Here are some examples of what 131 meters away from AR will look like. https://imgur.com/a/8NRQdJQ

wdy guys think


I agree few criminals tend to do that and try to backstab in ARs even tho the number of cops are less, this will will to resolve that.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Arran on 03 03, 2024, 09:06:32 pm
Non councillors shouldn't be able to post here any more.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Sirat on 03 03, 2024, 11:08:30 pm
I need all the criminal councilor to share their views on it too @HeadBoss  @SoloBlade
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: HeadBoss on 03 03, 2024, 11:15:25 pm
That's going to be considered as Hummer nerfing. I would support the idea of disabling shooting while glued NEAR AR. That's another reason why we have to make borders and limits around AR Area.
I am supporting this, would be much better to have such borders around AR area(131 meters are good as you mentioned).

Adding borders will surely make it easy to have a deal with your suggestion as well as this (https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=398387.0).
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: SoloBlade on 04 03, 2024, 03:20:11 am

Edit: Disabling firing when glued on hummer when you are near to armed robbery with less than 131 meters of distance. Here are some examples of what 131 meters away from AR will look like. https://imgur.com/a/8NRQdJQ

I also agree
near of AR /Ce protect hummer needed
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Sirat on 04 03, 2024, 08:46:29 pm
So we all agree on this solution.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: MandM on 04 03, 2024, 09:31:57 pm
If you don't mind, I would like to hang this suggestion until we discuss this (https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=398882.msg5844051#msg5844051).
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: RX1 on 04 03, 2024, 10:32:23 pm
So we all agree on this solution.
I do agree.  :tick:
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: DeathWish on 06 03, 2024, 06:41:23 pm
I do believe this is an issue, I can't say the amount of times we were hunted down by criminals and killed outside AR while just trying to attend.

 :tick:
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Arran on 07 03, 2024, 07:28:14 pm
Perhaps mention all councillors and any that don't give any input can be kicked as councillor. Whenever all councillors have given their input make a summary of their inputs and mention me.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Sirat on 07 03, 2024, 07:37:55 pm
@RX1 @Safwan @HeadBoss @SoloBlade @FreezingX

@MandM @DeathWish @kitten @FerociusWizz 

Guys anything else to input we can discuss and make a summary of it and mention Arran then
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: HeadBoss on 07 03, 2024, 07:58:20 pm
That's going to be considered as Hummer nerfing. I would support the idea of disabling shooting while glued NEAR AR. That's another reason why we have to make borders and limits around AR Area.
I have nothing else to add, everything is stated here.
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: FreezingX on 07 03, 2024, 08:24:27 pm
Exactly, to be honest, people paid a lot of money for a vehicle to gather together and do anything, and I believe there was already a nerf regarding the glued people on Hummers with the danger level. I understand that it is a boring game while players try to play at ARs and they arrive to backstab, but I believe the prior restriction is adequate. Consider how cops would patrol to kill high WPs, which I'm sure occurs but I've never heard anyone complain about it. I mean, the more restrictions, the less valuable the vehicle becomes. As for me, I don't care about that vehicle because I never backed people grouping together and ruining the CnR, just thinking about what's best for everyone involved.
Sure, why not.  :thumb:

You have my input on both options, the first and the second after you changed the discussion totally. I have no more to say.
Title: Re: Disabling shooting on hummer according to danger level
Post by: Safwan on 07 03, 2024, 09:38:22 pm
I agree with that.
there is nothing to add.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: RX1 on 07 03, 2024, 10:47:02 pm
I do agree.  :tick:
^^
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: MandM on 08 03, 2024, 12:34:38 am
I Agree.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: FerociusWizz on 08 03, 2024, 05:31:44 am
I agree as well
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: kitten on 08 03, 2024, 06:34:55 am
Yep, it's a good solution.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: SoloBlade on 08 03, 2024, 11:45:50 am
I agree too again
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: Sirat on 10 03, 2024, 01:36:14 am
Okay, so we all decided to prohibit the Hummer from shooting while glued when it is near an armed robbery within 200 meters of distance. (before we decided on 131 but after seeing this type of thing
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https://streamable.com/hq7lah
where a criminal hummer can shoot people inside 131 meter and not letting cops and criminal play AR peacefully with long range mg and rifle spamming while glued, we decided to fully forbidden shooting while gluing on hummer near ARs and extend 131 meters to 200) But I also expect few things if it's possible. 

1. If the criminal's hummer is inside the prohibited area, include a text on the right corner of their screen in red "You cannot shoot while glued when you are near an armed robbery" (or something similar) to avoid confusion.

2. They can only shoot when they leave the hummer, which means they can't shoot while moving on the hummer to abuse the glue system. for example, You can also add a maximum of 2-3 seconds of cooldown for hummer users (glued player) to be able to shoot again after leaving the hummer, preventing them from abusing glue, ungluing, and shooting.

3. just like we can see the AR borders, criminals and cops can also be able to see borders of hummer restriction area
that can be enable from /settings (default: disable) but its totally optional and not very needed, if its too much work then nvm.
 
@Arran

Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 131m distance from AR.
Post by: FreezingX on 10 03, 2024, 09:10:59 am
Okay, so we all decided to prohibit the Hummer from shooting while glued when it is near an armed robbery within 200 meters of distance. (before we decided on 131 but after seeing this type of thing
Show content
https://streamable.com/hq7lah
where a criminal hummer can shoot people inside 131 meter and not letting cops and criminal play AR peacefully with long range mg and rifle spamming while glued, we decided to fully forbidden shooting while gluing on hummer near ARs and extend 131 meters to 200) But I also expect few things if it's possible. 

1. If the criminal's hummer is inside the prohibited area, include a text on the right corner of their screen in red "You cannot shoot while glued when you are near an armed robbery" (or something similar) to avoid confusion.

2. They can only shoot when they leave the hummer, which means they can't shoot while moving on the hummer to abuse the glue system. for example, You can also add a maximum of 2-3 seconds of cooldown for hummer users (glued player) to be able to shoot again after leaving the hummer, preventing them from abusing glue, ungluing, and shooting.

3. just like we can see the AR borders, criminals and cops can also be able to see borders of hummer restriction area
that can be enable from /settings (default: disable) but its totally optional and not very needed, if its too much work then nvm.
 
@Arran


This is a fantastic idea, however if they were just attacked and ran into the area, they should still be damaged or killed otherwise it would be extremely abused.
Title: Re: Disabling firing when glued on hummer with less than 200m distance from AR.
Post by: Arran on 10 03, 2024, 10:45:06 pm
Dear councillors, thank you for all posting, it is a great relief to see 10 out of 10 posted as I was worried this idea would fail due to inactivity. I will implement this suggestion within the next few days.

Sunday 10th March 2024
- Players can't shoot while glued to hummer if they are within 200 meters of the Armed Robbery event. (Arran + Sirat + CnR Council)