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Title: [IMPLEMENTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 16 05, 2019, 06:16:06 pm
I do believe Weed Farm should  be removed for the same reasons why CE's from SF were removed. I have asked both players from Criminal and Law sides for their opinions regarding this and made a poll as a /teamvote



I will present you the opinions and poll results from Criminals point of view.

Do you think AR Weed Farm should be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 18 (66%) No: 8 (29%) Maybe: 1 (3%)

Their opinions from team chat why Weed Farm should be removed :
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(TEAM) [FFH]P4K.: Its too far
(TEAM) SK#Wizz{W}: Cops crack up too fast.
(TEAM) Larger|PiRuS:  cop peds at the bridge can damage cars
(TEAM) [FFH]Moons: It's far away from LS, and that stair that leads to the roof is bugged and giving advantage
(TEAM) [FFH]Moons: To whoever attacking from roof
(TEAM) 1337#Ammar: The teleport is probably the only reason cops bother with it anyway
(TEAM) [FFH]Haisum: Agreed
(TEAM) Larger|PiRuS: In my opinion, cop peds who are around the map like at bridge and etc, shouldn't damage cars

Summary of their opinions : Weed farm is too far away, after finishing the AR in LS and then moving directly to Weed Farm you have a hard time getting there because:



I will present you the opinions and poll results from Law Enforcement point of view.

Do you think AR Weed Farm should be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 15 (62%) No: 9 (37%) Maybe: 0 (0%)

Their opinions from team chat why Weed Farm should be removed :
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(LS) SGT-FratBoy*AX-SWAT: It should be removed because its so far
(TEAM) Croucher[FBI-MP]: Cos it's far, and shit, whole enviroment of it
(TEAM) OVS-Malone*BGAT-MP: It's so far as hell @noD3 also there is a lot of hard driving to aviod the trees
(TEAM) Croucher[FBI-MP]: Plus it's not as good as the rest of the AR's, it lacks something

Summary of their opinions : Weed Farm is too far away, it is hard to drive there, it is not the same as other AR's and it lacks something.



On that note I do believe that both players from both sides who participate in the Armed Robberies agree on removing Weed Farm because of various reason.
The AR is not played and a lot of players skip it and are doing other activities instead of it.



The proposal was brought to you by
@Golem  and @noD3 councillor's agenda

Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Anuran on 16 05, 2019, 06:19:47 pm
Definitely a far place to reach to and also the fact that there are cop ped in the bride that just instantly destroy your vehicle if you are wanted.
I think completely removing the Weed Farm AR is a bad idea.
Why not make a Island near LS (sideskirt of LS OIL) and relocate the Weed Farm AR there?
Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Airhead on 16 05, 2019, 06:24:13 pm
As a cop, I never goto the weed farm as it's in the middle of nowhere, but I do think that we should let weed farm stay (it's better to have something than nothing_
Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Malone on 16 05, 2019, 06:25:32 pm
well we need replace WF with other AR but not near LS because there is too many objects making lag, so we make it far a bit of LS.

Kinda law are suffering when they go to Weed farm because we need avoid trees as I said in law chat also too many Mountains to climb.
Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Anuran on 16 05, 2019, 06:30:21 pm
Adding something more with my previous Reply

I think we should remove the AR first and then look for a new place in LS or in the outskirt of LS.
When I go Cop or Criminal. I don't even bother to go there because I have to spend more money in fixing my car that often get damaged by the Ped Cops and in the mountains.
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 16 05, 2019, 06:45:38 pm
The voting is delayed

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I do believe Weed Farm should  be removed for the same reasons why CE's from SF were removed. I have asked both players from Criminal and Law sides for their opinions regarding this and made a poll as a /teamvote



I will present you the opinions and poll results from Criminals point of view.

Do you think AR Weed Farm should be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 18 (66%) No: 8 (29%) Maybe: 1 (3%)

Their opinions from team chat why Weed Farm should be removed :
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Summary of their opinions : Weed farm is too far away, after finishing the AR in LS and then moving directly to Weed Farm you have a hard time getting there because:
  • 1) There are peds on the bridge of Los Santos who shoot your car down pretty fast.
  • 2) There a lot of trees in that area which makes it hard to drive there.
  • 3) Cops get there first with rapid transportation before you can get it which makes you unable to enter the AR.



I will present you the opinions and poll results from Law Enforcement point of view.

Do you think AR Weed Farm should be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 15 (62%) No: 9 (37%) Maybe: 0 (0%)

Their opinions from team chat why Weed Farm should be removed :
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Summary of their opinions : Weed Farm is too far away, it is hard to drive there, it is not the same as other AR's and it lacks something.



On that note I do believe that both players from both sides who participate in the Armed Robberies agree on removing Weed Farm because of various reason.
The AR is not played and a lot of players skip it and are doing other activities instead of it.



The proposal was brought to you by
@Golem  and @noD3 councillor's agenda



I would like to state this proposal was changed into a VOTE
Councillors are free to state their votes.

Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: JimMys on 16 05, 2019, 06:48:00 pm
Dude, 24 hours didn't passed, dont rush. Fun fact,  you are the guy who tell to others follow the guidelines..
I don't agree to remove the weed farm.
I am from my phone I can't explain the reasons now, I was ready to do it from my PC later but I made this post because you rushed...

PS I will edit it soon. Thanks
Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 16 05, 2019, 06:56:28 pm
Dude, 24 hours didn't passed, dont rush. Fun fact,  you are the guy who tell to others follow the guidelines..
I don't agree to remove the weed farm.
I am from my phone I can't explain the reasons now, I was ready to do it from my PC later but I made this post because you rushed...

PS I will edit it soon. Thanks
You are right I have forgotten that rule somehow, thanks for reminding, I changed the topic back to proposal
Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: JimMys on 16 05, 2019, 07:03:28 pm
Ιn my view, weed farm is a special event, yes it's far but not too much. Also, there is a teleport there, mostly cops use it but criminals too. The main thing is that it's not an ''inactive'' AR, both sides join it. Another feature, you don't have lags or fps drop there, so the fights are fair without these problems. I believe that we should keep the Weed Farm in AR circle.
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 17 05, 2019, 10:09:05 pm
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I do believe Weed Farm should  be removed for the same reasons why CE's from SF were removed. I have asked both players from Criminal and Law sides for their opinions regarding this and made a poll as a /teamvote



I will present you the opinions and poll results from Criminals point of view.

Do you think AR Weed Farm should be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 18 (66%) No: 8 (29%) Maybe: 1 (3%)

Their opinions from team chat why Weed Farm should be removed :
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Summary of their opinions : Weed farm is too far away, after finishing the AR in LS and then moving directly to Weed Farm you have a hard time getting there because:
  • 1) There are peds on the bridge of Los Santos who shoot your car down pretty fast.
  • 2) There a lot of trees in that area which makes it hard to drive there.
  • 3) Cops get there first with rapid transportation before you can get it which makes you unable to enter the AR.



I will present you the opinions and poll results from Law Enforcement point of view.

Do you think AR Weed Farm should be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 15 (62%) No: 9 (37%) Maybe: 0 (0%)

Their opinions from team chat why Weed Farm should be removed :
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Summary of their opinions : Weed Farm is too far away, it is hard to drive there, it is not the same as other AR's and it lacks something.



On that note I do believe that both players from both sides who participate in the Armed Robberies agree on removing Weed Farm because of various reason.
The AR is not played and a lot of players skip it and are doing other activities instead of it.



The proposal was brought to you by
@Golem  and @noD3 councillor's agenda



I would like to state this proposal was changed into a VOTE
Councillors are free to state their votes.
Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: JimMys on 17 05, 2019, 10:17:25 pm
 :cros:

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Ιn my view, weed farm is a special event, yes it's far but not too much. Also, there is a teleport there, mostly cops use it but criminals too. The main thing is that it's not an ''inactive'' AR, both sides join it. Another feature, you don't have lags or fps drop there, so the fights are fair without these problems. I believe that we should keep the Weed Farm in AR circle.
https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=338277.msg4976275#msg4976275
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 17 05, 2019, 10:19:13 pm
 :tick: Weed farm is too far away, If we would check the amount of people in the previous AR before Weed Farm and the amount of players in the Weed Farm, you would see a big change, it is because most players find it annoying to get to the weed farm and it is not efficient to get there, the armed robbery itself looks weirdly mapped and easy to rush for law enforcement.
Title: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Airhead on 18 05, 2019, 12:10:54 am
As a cop, I never goto the weed farm as it's in the middle of nowhere, but I do think that we should let weed farm stay (it's better to have something than nothing_
:cros:
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 12:12:29 am
:cros:
We could come up with something similar with a new proposal what would be closer but near Los Santos, just Like LSO
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Randy on 18 05, 2019, 12:17:42 am
how about removing it and try to put a drugs factory there?
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 12:18:57 am
how about removing it and try to put a drugs factory there?

What do you mean by drug factory ? In that area we already have a weed farm , an activity for gangsters where they can harvest weed every hour or so
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Randy on 18 05, 2019, 12:30:50 am
What do you mean by drug factory ? In that area we already have a weed farm , an activity for gangsters where they can harvest weed every hour or so
Drug factory is like a building where you craft drugs and get wanted for it
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 12:33:21 am
Drug factory is like a building where you craft drugs and get wanted for it
I do believe that should be a different proposal , we already have enough drugs in the game and some of their prices are kinda high
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Ariana on 18 05, 2019, 12:34:33 am
Just move it somewhere above LS. Theres lots of empty land near Dillimore, Palomino and Blueberry.
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Airhead on 18 05, 2019, 02:43:40 am
We could come up with something similar with a new proposal what would be closer but near Los Santos, just Like LSO
Then, make a substitute plan before removing the weed farm.
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 09:52:56 am
this is bad idea,because we can get weed easily in weed farm.
Are you even reading these topics? You don't even get weed from armed robberies
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 10:18:46 am
Then, make a substitute plan before removing the weed farm.
@Airhead The reason why I want to remove the weed farm is because players hate it when it happens as showed by my polls and peoples comments, when you are playing AR's and get in the momentum and then weed farm happens and if u decide to go there at the end a rage quit can happen.
We could also see the following tendency :
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AR before Weed Farm 14 vs 10
Weed Farm 4 v 3
AR after Weed Farm 10 vs 7
When people are attending Armed Robberies they love it going from one to another but after weed farm I believe some people get annoyed.

I do have a new AR planned and the proposal is in the work at  the moment, should be published at the  beginning of the next week.

Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: iShadow on 18 05, 2019, 02:16:53 pm
 :tick:
Well, this AR always annoyed me. Thhe main reason that this AR a very far away and there is some problems with the way how to get there as fast as possible. Everything is explained properly, nothing much to say.
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Randy on 18 05, 2019, 02:23:56 pm
:tick:
Well, this AR always annoyed me. Thhe main reason that this AR a very far away and there is some problems with the way how to get there as fast as possible. Everything is explained properly, nothing much to say.
I don't think weed farm is AR?
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 02:47:36 pm
I don't think weed farm is AR?

Did you read my suggestion? I suggest removing Armed Robbery which name is "Weed Farm"
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Randy on 18 05, 2019, 04:01:41 pm
Did you read my suggestion? I suggest removing Armed Robbery which name is "Weed Farm"
I read it I just was inactive for sometime I didn't know it's in AR cycle now , I just knew it was a criminal activity
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 04:07:38 pm
I read it I just was inactive for sometime I didn't know it's in AR cycle now , I just knew it was a criminal activity

The place where activity takes there's an Armed Robbery called "Weed Farm" which is hated by the most CnR players because of this far location and the reasons explained in my proposal
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Ariana on 18 05, 2019, 04:13:42 pm
Why don't we just move it here? Next to Montgomery.

Much closer to LS.

(https://i.imgur.com/XMde5zW.jpg)
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: DroMa on 18 05, 2019, 04:30:26 pm

Sorry bro, I’m against removing the current weed farm, it’s an old place where we used to harvest weed from it, removing it won’t help, we can add another one in future, but the removal won’t solve anything.

 :tick:
i miss understood, in that case i'm upvoting this idea, since that AR is too far away from LS and other ARs.
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 18 05, 2019, 06:50:33 pm
Why don't we just move it here? Next to Montgomery.

Much closer to LS.

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(https://i.imgur.com/XMde5zW.jpg)

@Ariana Please put your image in spoiler for people who are using mobile data and it might be using their data.
How do you even think of "moving" an entire armed robbery?  You would still need to map it again, I am currently working on a new proposal, an armed robbery called Weapons Factory which will be not too far away from the location you have mentioned.
The thing is why we should remove this before waiting for new one is because players are genuinely bored by Weed Farm, most players access that place only be Rapid Transportation because if you are a wanted criminal you will have a very hard time to access place, unlike other armed robberies for cops to show up at this armed robbery it takes around ~3 minutes to do so, when at other armed robberies which are at Los Santos, Police Officers show up immediately.

The mapped place that is currently at weed farm could be left since it is in the middle of nowhere and the design of it looks pretty neat , something later can be taught on that.


I made again a poll after just playing an armed robbery "Weed Farm" , the poll was created in criminals team chat

Do you want AR Weed Farm to be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 25 (55%) No: 15 (33%) Maybe: 5 (11%)

As you see 45 players voted in that and 15 of them don't want it to be removed, while 25 agree on removing it and there's 5 people who don't know if they want to remove it. The reason they don't know why is because they haven't seen the idea I have got with the new armed robbery and how can they be improved.



:cros:
Sorry bro, I’m against removing the current weed farm, it’s an old place where we used to harvest weed from it, removing it won’t help, we can add another one in future, but the removal won’t solve anything.
@DroMa  Please take a closer look, we are voting now on removing the Armed Robbery called "Weed Farm" , not the Weed Farm itself.


Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: Randy on 18 05, 2019, 07:39:11 pm
 :tick: if criminals want it removed then fine
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: JimMys on 18 05, 2019, 07:43:17 pm
They want remove it because it's far and they are boring to go there. But this area is good because you dont have FPS drop, also there is a teleport, cops usually use it but the main point is that they are coming and we have fights, it's not an inactive AR. To remove it because some criminals are lazy, I can't understand. I am sure that if we transfer it close to LS, more will start complain about FPS drops or something...
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Weed Farm
Post by: Ariana on 18 05, 2019, 07:46:25 pm
@Ariana Please put your image in spoiler for people who are using mobile data and it might be using their data.
How do you even think of "moving" an entire armed robbery?  You would still need to map it again, I am currently working on a new proposal, an armed robbery called Weapons Factory which will be not too far away from the location you have mentioned.
The thing is why we should remove this before waiting for new one is because players are genuinely bored by Weed Farm, most players access that place only be Rapid Transportation because if you are a wanted criminal you will have a very hard time to access place, unlike other armed robberies for cops to show up at this armed robbery it takes around ~3 minutes to do so, when at other armed robberies which are at Los Santos, Police Officers show up immediately.

The mapped place that is currently at weed farm could be left since it is in the middle of nowhere and the design of it looks pretty neat , something later can be taught on that.


I made again a poll after just playing an armed robbery "Weed Farm" , the poll was created in criminals team chat

Do you want AR Weed Farm to be removed?
Voting over! Yes: 25 (55%) No: 15 (33%) Maybe: 5 (11%)

As you see 45 players voted in that and 15 of them don't want it to be removed, while 25 agree on removing it and there's 5 people who don't know if they want to remove it. The reason they don't know why is because they haven't seen the idea I have got with the new armed robbery and how can they be improved.


@DroMa  Please take a closer look, we are voting now on removing the Armed Robbery called "Weed Farm" , not the Weed Farm itself.

Providing something else replaces it closer to LS consider me voting yes  :tick:
Title: Re: [VOTE] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: Vampire on 18 05, 2019, 08:39:45 pm
:tick:

Moving it to somewhere else would be better than removing it completely.
Title: Re: [ACCEPTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 19 05, 2019, 12:58:37 am
Summary: Suggestion is set accepted, 6 councillors agreed and 2 disagreed.
Title: Re: [ACCEPTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: JimMys on 19 05, 2019, 01:37:26 am
Summary: Suggestion is set accepted, 6 councillors agreed and 1 disagreed.

Me and Airhead voted no. Some others voted Yes BUT...agreed on replacement, not permanent removal.  :thonk: (For example Vampire & Ariana)
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[ACCEPTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm ???
Title: Re: [ACCEPTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 19 05, 2019, 01:50:08 am
Me and Airhead voted no. Some others voted Yes BUT...agreed on replacement, not permanent removal.  :thonk: (For example Vampire & Ariana)
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[ACCEPTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm ???

Read my previous post
Title: Re: [ACCEPTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: JimMys on 19 05, 2019, 02:16:08 am
Change the title then. None accepted to remove WF from ARs circle.  :fp:

ΕDIT : You present it like everyone's agreed with you when actually almost none accept to total removal.  :thonk:
Title: Re: [ACCEPTED] Removing Armed Robbery Weed Farm
Post by: noD3 on 19 05, 2019, 02:18:05 am
Change the title then. None accepted to remove WF from ARs circle.  :fp:
Thank you for your opinion