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Title: [+++][A/B] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 27 03, 2024, 09:49:44 am
While nerfing the supposedly overpowered dual wield guns like uzi and tec, colt got converted to single wield as well which doesn't make sense because it already had a really slow fire rate paired with an even lower damage per bullet (10 per hit according to F1 > weapon damage, while Uzi has 7 per hit and shoots almost 3x faster)

The update disturbed the weapons balance quite a bit with guns like MP5 becoming the meta and single wield guns being abandoned. I am suggesting to make the Colt dual wielded again, since it was not overpowered before the update and now it's completely useless.

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Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: thund3R on 27 03, 2024, 10:00:16 am
It really is god awful slow. make it dual-wielded or increase fire rate a bit. :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Ammar1 on 27 03, 2024, 10:10:22 am
No, if we make colt a double, this will not solve anything and will be completely unfair. Why? Because most of the players use the tec uzi, these weapons are not double. If we make the colt double, this will be unfair. If we make it fair, we make the tec uzi double as well, and the problems are solved. It is better for it to be single. :cros:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 27 03, 2024, 10:17:03 am
No, if we make colt a double, this will not solve anything and will be completely unfair. Why? Because most of the players use the tec uzi, these weapons are not double. If we make the colt double, this will be unfair. If we make it fair, we make the tec uzi double as well, and the problems are solved. It is better for it to be single. :cros:

Colt has way lower damage and fire rate compared to Uzi and tec therefore your vote is invalid and shouldn't be considered by the DS mods
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: O7 on 27 03, 2024, 11:04:07 am
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Ammar1 on 27 03, 2024, 11:17:38 am
Colt has way lower damage and fire rate compared to Uzi and tec therefore your vote is invalid and shouldn't be considered by the DS mods
bro I respect your  suggestion :o7: but this is my vote.
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: chain on 27 03, 2024, 11:41:41 am
Most useless weapon in cit  :cros:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: thund3R on 27 03, 2024, 11:44:33 am
Most useless weapon in cit  :cros:
then smth needs to be done so it ain't "most useless weapon in cit", innit?
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: chain on 27 03, 2024, 11:47:45 am
then smth needs to be done so it ain't "most useless weapon in cit", innit?
dual wont make it useful ???
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: MG on 27 03, 2024, 11:59:39 am
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: SoloBlade on 27 03, 2024, 12:06:39 pm
my vote is   :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Nobody_ on 27 03, 2024, 12:09:15 pm
dual wont make it useful ???
What would do it then? Try to improve something.

I think that making it doubled will not make it useful as MP5 is rn, but it could be adaptable to someone's gameplay  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Wish' on 27 03, 2024, 12:09:54 pm
Most useless weapon in cit  :cros:
I don't think so, dual colt is awful depends on the user, which is why Lucifer suggested making it twice. At least then, it would be useful. In PVP scenarios, I've seen some people use this gun when the enemy began to run away. Anyway, POSITIVE
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: KakCraft on 27 03, 2024, 01:04:01 pm
Sure but it will still be useless because there is no reason to choose it over deagle even with dual wield (which is a good thing imo, colt used to be retarded pre-nerf years ago)

No, if we make colt a double, this will not solve anything and will be completely unfair. Why? Because most of the players use the tec uzi, these weapons are not double. If we make the colt double, this will be unfair. If we make it fair, we make the tec uzi double as well, and the problems are solved. It is better for it to be single. :cros:

You do realize sawed off is still dual wield right?
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: 3eNab on 27 03, 2024, 02:12:39 pm
I see that the matter will be restored to the way it was in the past before these weapons, tec, uzi, and cilt were made useless.
positive
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 27 03, 2024, 02:19:13 pm
Most useless weapon in cit  :cros:

Which is why it needs to be improved

Sure but it will still be useless because there is no reason to choose it over deagle even with dual wield (which is a good thing imo, colt used to be retarded pre-nerf years ago)

Colt is useful trying to kill enemies that are low HP and running away since it has kinda good range and fire rate compared to the deagle, which is why colt was usually preferred in gangster wars before this update
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Smith. on 27 03, 2024, 02:49:00 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Denos on 27 03, 2024, 06:03:52 pm
 :cros:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Dread on 27 03, 2024, 06:08:37 pm
Only civilians & people who usually die from single colt would vote negative.

 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Boles on 27 03, 2024, 06:14:09 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: denn on 27 03, 2024, 06:54:01 pm
This is something that depends on balance, and I think it is a good idea for everyone, so I will vote yes  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Ivan# on 27 03, 2024, 07:09:42 pm
Colt isn't an used weapon, the nerf wasn't needed so Im supporting this, it is useless now  :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Cerberus on 27 03, 2024, 08:16:24 pm
 :cros:

You talk about dual Uzi and colt being useless, well, when those weapons were dual-wielded, it made a lot of the major weapons useless against them in a gun fight.
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: iMazen on 27 03, 2024, 09:15:25 pm
:cros:

You talk about dual Uzi and colt being useless, well, when those weapons were dual-wielded, it made a lot of the major weapons useless against them in a gun fight.
Like Cerberus said  :cros: :cros:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Clark on 27 03, 2024, 09:18:25 pm
So we are buffing a weapon among the lists of weapons we just nerfed to have it overpower the weapons that were nerfed? I don't support it maybe it makes no sense to me that's why, but finally there is a nice little balance in combat after getting rid of the dual-wielded SMGs. Let's keep it that way.  :cros:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Nobody_ on 27 03, 2024, 09:22:51 pm
:cros:

You talk about dual Uzi and colt being useless, well, when those weapons were dual-wielded, it made a lot of the major weapons useless against them in a gun fight.

Colt almost dont have damage, making it dual will only made the fight less static. (Uzi used to be really strong, but colt wasnt that powered)
Btw, if it be so overpowered, you can always suggest a damage adjust. 
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 27 03, 2024, 09:29:55 pm
:cros:

You talk about dual Uzi and colt being useless, well, when those weapons were dual-wielded, it made a lot of the major weapons useless against them in a gun fight.

Did you even read? Colt was never overpowered yet still nerfed, I'm just suggesting to make it balanced with the other weapons

So we are buffing a weapon among the lists of weapons we just nerfed to have it overpower the weapons that were nerfed? I don't support it maybe it makes no sense to me that's why, but finally there is a nice little balance in combat after getting rid of the dual-wielded SMGs. Let's keep it that way.  :cros:

Can you please explain to me how Colt affects the balance? Read the statistics about these weapons that I mentioned in the main post
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: TheGam3r23 on 27 03, 2024, 10:18:24 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Clark on 27 03, 2024, 11:05:38 pm
Can you please explain to me how Colt affects the balance? Read the statistics about these weapons that I mentioned in the main post

I went based off what you said, I disagreed with you that it disturbed the balance quite a bit. I don't think it disturbed or off-scaled the balance at all. It brought a perfect balance. If we revert the colt back to dual-wielded that would disturb the balance, because now we have a gun that was in a list of guns that were nerfed to bring balance, buffed again to bring balance  :huh:.

If it wasn't overpowered during the time it was dual-wielded, then the community should have had more attention to detail to mention that the colt should remain as is. This back and forth discussions regarding the dualies need to stop in my opinion, we can't suggest something, get it added into the server then suggest for the same thing (almost same thing) to get added back in less than 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Ster on 28 03, 2024, 01:04:22 am
I want uzi and tec to back dual again but not only colt  :cros:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: MadaFuq on 28 03, 2024, 01:38:05 am
 :tick: :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 28 03, 2024, 08:15:39 am
I went based off what you said, I disagreed with you that it disturbed the balance quite a bit. I don't think it disturbed or off-scaled the balance at all. It brought a perfect balance. If we revert the colt back to dual-wielded that would disturb the balance, because now we have a gun that was in a list of guns that were nerfed to bring balance, buffed again to bring balance  :huh:.

If it wasn't overpowered during the time it was dual-wielded, then the community should have had more attention to detail to mention that the colt should remain as is. This back and forth discussions regarding the dualies need to stop in my opinion, we can't suggest something, get it added into the server then suggest for the same thing (almost same thing) to get added back in less than 2 weeks.

Colt was never overpowered. Even its dual wielded version is weaker than the single versions of Uzi and Tec so I really don't get your point.

I want uzi and tec to back dual again but not only colt  :cros:

What kind of logic is that lol if the dual tec won't return we should be stuck with a weak ass colt? As I mentioned before the dual version of colt is still not better than the single Uzi and Tec
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Clark on 28 03, 2024, 05:36:07 pm
Colt was never overpowered. Even its dual wielded version is weaker than the single versions of Uzi and Tec so I really don't get your point.

If it wasn't overpowered during the time it was dual-wielded, then the community should have had more attention to detail to mention that the colt should remain as is. This back and forth discussions regarding the dualies need to stop in my opinion, we can't suggest something, get it added into the server then suggest for the same thing (almost same thing) to get added back in less than 2 weeks.

The answer to your question is in my reply already. ^^
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Tupac2 on 30 03, 2024, 12:01:13 pm
Yes, firing rate can be increased.  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Metall on 30 03, 2024, 01:15:08 pm
The Colt was not an overpowered weapon while it was dual-wielded, making it dual again will just simply make the weapon not totally useless.  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Hymie on 30 03, 2024, 07:28:00 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: FreezingX on 31 03, 2024, 12:20:07 am
The Colt 45 is a dual-wielded weapon by default in GTA SA; nevertheless, the weapon is undoubtedly over-nerfed, as demonstrated in the video.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: White Death on 31 03, 2024, 06:52:29 pm
 :cros:

after this update, people will go suggesting dual tec and Uzi:what:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: CalaBaSaS on 31 03, 2024, 08:36:46 pm
colt is now really useless from what I see, making it back dual wielded will make it atleast good at pvp  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Private on 31 03, 2024, 09:01:42 pm
:cros:

after this update, people will go suggesting dual tec and Uzi:what:

 :cros:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 01 04, 2024, 10:14:10 am
:cros:

after this update, people will go suggesting dual tec and Uzi:what:

That was already denied by the community, there's no way to suggest it again. I know discussion board voters aren't the smartest people on the server but please atleast put a little effort in making good arguments..
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Private on 01 04, 2024, 09:04:09 pm
That was already denied by the community, there's no way to suggest it again. I know discussion board voters aren't the smartest people on the server but please atleast put a little effort in making good arguments..

I really don't get what's the point of making colt dual again, like it was used before. People only used it when the other person was already really low hp, just to get the kill message with "colt" and "embarass" him for dying like that.
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: thund3R on 01 04, 2024, 09:32:25 pm
I really don't get what's the point of making colt dual again, like it was used before. People only used it when the other person was already really low hp, just to get the kill message with "colt" and "embarass" him for dying like that.
true that but colt was also effective against those who decide to start running when about to die since colt's got nice range and accuracy
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 01 04, 2024, 09:55:16 pm
That was already denied by the community, there's no way to suggest it again. I know discussion board voters aren't the smartest people on the server but please atleast put a little effort in making good arguments..

true that but colt was also effective against those who decide to start running when about to die since colt's got nice range and accuracy

thund3r explained everything I wanted to say
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Bon on 01 04, 2024, 10:07:40 pm
The Colt was not an overpowered weapon while it was dual-wielded, making it dual again will just simply make the weapon not totally useless.  :tick:
Agree with Metall Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Sirat on 02 04, 2024, 02:03:55 am
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Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Violet on 02 04, 2024, 03:50:39 am
:tick:
colt/uzi/tec guns are useless. The colt does not hurt now, if the colt becomes dual , it is fair. :npc:
Voting twice isn't allowed, Read board rules before posting next time. @MG
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Coolshot on 02 04, 2024, 03:01:47 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Violet on 03 04, 2024, 05:34:53 am
After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 23 positive votes.
- 9 negative votes.

Stays as neutral.
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: KarabiN on 03 04, 2024, 10:31:44 am
Everyone's slots on the server are almost exactly the same, and weapons like this have become useless due to their low features. Colt pistol deserves this update to bring change to this dusty situation. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Knife on 03 04, 2024, 10:37:22 am
 :tick: as this sugesstion would keep the meta balanced and this would also reduce the usage of MP5
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Fiwz on 03 04, 2024, 10:38:14 am
Upvoting for sure while I am a deagle user. I have not seen people use it much before and there was not any problem at all when it was dual.  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Yutapon on 03 04, 2024, 10:39:31 am
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Daigo on 03 04, 2024, 11:18:46 am
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Wolfzy on 03 04, 2024, 11:45:55 am
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: kingarthas on 03 04, 2024, 01:25:25 pm
 :tick:
Either make it dual again or buff it’s damage/fire rate
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: wocao on 03 04, 2024, 01:32:51 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Musang on 03 04, 2024, 01:46:33 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Nateng on 03 04, 2024, 05:11:41 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: .Snow on 03 04, 2024, 06:51:57 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Chaosweaver on 03 04, 2024, 09:39:23 pm
The Colt was not an overpowered weapon while it was dual-wielded, making it dual again will just simply make the weapon not totally useless.  :tick:
Nothing further to add.  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: xenonso on 04 04, 2024, 04:13:17 pm
Didnt see anyone using colt for long time. Supporting  :tick:
Title: Re: Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: HeadBoss on 05 04, 2024, 03:46:29 am
After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 36 positive votes.
- 9 negative votes.

Marked as High.
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Ace on 05 04, 2024, 04:44:52 pm
was never used anyway even when it was duel, so I don't see what benefit making it like that will have unless you buff it to be better than it was before.
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: shadow' on 06 04, 2024, 04:22:08 am
 :tick:  :tick: missed colting randoms
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 06 04, 2024, 10:13:38 am
was never used anyway even when it was duel, so I don't see what benefit making it like that will have unless you buff it to be better than it was before.

Not true, it was used quite often in gangster wars. It's dual version will be more used now since the dual Uzi and Tec have been reduced to single wield.
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Pythh on 06 04, 2024, 10:22:32 am
We all want the same thing bro  :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: snow-. on 16 04, 2024, 01:26:03 pm
Colt will become useful this way  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: DarBka on 16 04, 2024, 11:52:10 pm
Positive
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: JimMys on 18 04, 2024, 02:26:50 pm
This gun should be dual. Please fix it.

Upvoting.  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: RayanMJ on 18 04, 2024, 03:29:40 pm
Like they said it's not powerful anyways so I don't see any problem making the gun dual  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: ManeXi on 18 04, 2024, 08:36:11 pm
Shouldn't this be added to the '/vote' system that was added by Nuko?
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Nuko on 18 04, 2024, 11:28:44 pm
Shouldn't this be added to the '/vote' system that was added by Nuko?
Good idea, added it.
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: iFighTeR7 on 20 04, 2024, 12:13:42 pm
 :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Master2003 on 20 04, 2024, 01:42:24 pm
Negative  :cros:
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Violet on 21 04, 2024, 02:56:11 am
We all want the same thing bro  :tick: :tick:
It needs to be dual again because no one plays like it anymore.  :tick:
Voting twice isn't allowed, Read board rules before posting.
@Pythh
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: JimMys on 22 04, 2024, 01:39:20 am
What was the ingame result of poll?
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Lucifer. on 22 04, 2024, 07:00:57 am
What was the ingame result of poll?

It passed, should be added now
Title: Re: [+++] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Violet on 22 04, 2024, 10:45:08 pm
Suggestion is clearly supported therefore it will be locked till a developer decides about it.

Poll by nuko. (Passed)
Locked.
Title: Re: [+++][A/B] Make Colt dual-wielded again
Post by: Danzy on 26 04, 2024, 11:13:58 am
- Colt 45 is now dual-wielded again. (Danzy + Lucifer)