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Ingame Community => News and Updates => Topic started by: North on 26 08, 2020, 02:44:25 pm
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This is a simple suggestion. Her only purpose is to give a certain amount of drugs to each (criminal/police officer) you kill in the AR.
We know that when we go to the Crime Event, we get drugs when we get assistance, in that, it was good to implement in the Armed Robberies, even because sometimes the ARs are easily crowded.
This suggestion works for both sides. Criminals and law officers can receive quantities of drugs for assistance.
The idea was that for each assistance, you would win 10 random drugs.
Example: If I got assistance killing a criminal, I could get 25 Steroids/God/LSD/Crack/Speed/Weed. (Randomly). ( 10 random drugs.)
If a criminal gets assistance when he kills a cops, he could get the same amount of drugs.
Post your opinions so that I can discuss and even edit them.
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If a criminal gets assistance when he kills a cops, he could get the same amount of drugs.
Wouldn't that be too much? That would leave no difference between the killer and the kill assister to have the same amount. Getting kill assist is easy and for you clue, it counts even after you made damage to the target and he escaped away and died after a certain period of time, so what's your comment about this matter. They'll be able to farm rewards with what you purpose.
I'd say the kill assistance will give you 50% of the actual reward, but not the same.
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Wouldn't that be too much? That would leave no difference between the killer and the kill assister to have the same amount. Getting kill assist is easy and for you clue, it counts even after you made damage to the target and he escaped away and died after a certain period of time, so what's your comment about this matter. They'll be able to farm rewards with what you purpose.
I'd say the kill assistance will give you 50% of the actual reward, but not the same.
But this would only be valid inside the AR, from the moment the criminal leaves the AR, he would no longer count the drugs if he got assistance outside the AR area.
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I'm totally with Diamond's idea.
Actually giving 25 Drug each assist sounds overpowered, I'd say Drugs can be distributed depending on The amount of players inside the current Armed Roberry, How?. Well, Let's suppose there's +30 Crim / 30 Cop, Each assist gives around 70 - 60% of the amount you get when killing a crim/cop.
If there is fewer people inside the ar, Drugs should be dispensed by a low percentage ( around 20-50%). ~Up for discussion tho~.
That idea came up to my mind rn, but however, I just wanted to clearifly that there must be a specefic % so the amount of drugs obtained per assist is actually logical.
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It would be great! I agree with the idea of assists in AR, because it would be fair for both sides (cop and criminal). It's not just going to benefit a side and exclude the other, but, benefit the whole community. Besides of that, people will try harder to give assistance and get drugs of it, what makes a better team work. This suggestion has my complete support, because when I said: "it will benefit the whole community", it'll help new players too. Then, I give my positive vote for this.
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I'm totally with Diamond's idea.
Actually giving 25 Drug each assist sounds overpowered, I'd say Drugs can be distributed depending on The amount of players inside the current Armed Roberry, How?. Well, Let's suppose there's +30 Crim / 30 Cop, Each assist gives around 70 - 60% of the amount you get when killing a crim/cop.
If there is fewer people inside the ar, Drugs should be dispensed by a low percentage ( around 20-50%). ~Up for discussion tho~.
That idea came up to my mind rn, but however, I just wanted to clearifly that there must be a specefic % so the amount of drugs obtained per assist is actually logical.
We can increase this idea too, the intention is also to give drugs in the assistance as well as CE do. I just want to bring the same concept from CE to AR.
Diamond you probably read it wrong. North wanna say, Cops and Criminals would get same amount of drugs on assisting their fellow teammates in killing their enemy.
He didn't say they both will get same amount of drugs.
Now, let me give my view, getting assist is very easy and as Diamond said, u get assist even if u damaged someone a long time ago and he gets killed so some players may get profit of drugs for no reason and it would be quite buggy.
My opinion is Neutral for now
It was like I said, you would only get the drug for assistance while the AR was rolling, if by chance the AR ran out and got assistance outside of it, you would not count the drugs.
Not that he receives 25 drugs in total, but that he receives a certain amount when he gets assistance. That was just an example that I mentioned.
In some parts, criminals have a certain "advantage" in ARs. They have reduced theft time when they kill a cop, they earn around 24 - 36k of money and some quantities of drugs if the robbery is over. While cops only make money when they kill.
I just suggested that both sides receive drugs for assistance while the AR was in progress.
It would be great! I agree with the idea of assists in AR, because it would be fair for both sides (cop and criminal). It's not just going to benefit a side and exclude the other, but, benefit the whole community. Besides of that, people will try harder to give assistance and get drugs of it, what makes a better team work. This suggestion has my complete support, because when I said: "it will benefit the whole community", it'll help new players too. Then, I give my positive vote for this.
When I thought of the suggestion, I suggested it to both sides, so that it could be fair. Thank you for your trust.
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I kinda liked your suggestion, But as diamond said the reward once you kill a cop or kill inside an Armed Robbery is too much, Sometimes when I kill a cop I gets about 25/30 random drugs. The idea is pretty cool and needed as the armed robbery is way similar to criminal events, And there's no big difference between them, They both a fight between cops and robbers, If you decrease the price I would edit my vote. For now, I will keep it as neutral. Good luck with other votes.
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Actually I agree to the idea that players who got the assist must atleast gain rewards too. Usually it happens that the player who got the assist and deal more damage is the one that have been stolen by the players. It is not that bad to gain drugs for the assist. It is just right to get compensation for a kill. Since when killing a player, there is only one player who can get the assist so only one player can get the compensation too. The compensation reward must be lower than the killer reward like diamond mentioned and effective for both sides. I like this idea so players won't rant if they were KSed. Positive. :tick:
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Well, nowadays the arl s are based on stealing kills at much of the time. People camps on the doors to get the last hit and decrease their arl time or get bounty etc.. As a suffered person from this I literally left the game with my anger because of the guys who steal my kills and I don't get anything for my assist. About the amount is good I think because a player can make lot's of assistances in one arl and get plenty of drugs.10 is the perfect amount in my opinion. My vote is positive for this simple and usefull thing. Positive :tick:
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Diamond you probably read it wrong. North wanna say, Cops and Criminals would get same amount of drugs on assisting their fellow teammates in killing their enemy.
He didn't say they both will get same amount of drugs.
I know what I said, you misunderstood me. I meant what you've said right in first paragraph.
Example: If I got assistance killing a criminal, I could get 25 Steroids/God/LSD/Crack/Speed/Weed. (Randomly). ( 10 random drugs.)
Now after you've heard our opinions and fixed your suggestion to not count the "same" amount of drugs when kill assisting but 50% of each kill assist, you've my support because it sounds reasonable and worthy. A lot of players get kill stealed, I honestly see no problem in that but having a reward for assisting is also a positive motivation to participate in ARs as well.
I just fear it of in case you shoot EVERYONE and you kill zero in AR, you will be rewarded for EVERYONE. You know, so please tell me what is your comment about this case?
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I think there's no harm by adding this feature it can be much better than getting drugs in criminal events, do you know why? Criminal events are kinda dead nowadays means all the majority of the community goes to armed robberies, and that makes the armed robbery much better than criminal events. Very unfortunately, the armed robberies have no such a feature but on the other hand criminal event does have it. So, it would be such a great addition to the armed robbery. That's my opinion. I am voting positive.
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That feature already exists in the criminal events, in every assist nor a kill you'll receive an amount of drugs But unfortunately, that feature doesn't exist in the armed robberies. As you've said in the suggestion, sometimes armed robberies are high in the attendance by criminals so that thing may force cops to head to the ARs instead of attending criminal events or the opposite. That might be a great addition towards the armed robbery system since for every kill inside the armed robbery area as a criminal just aimed at the ped's head and then kill a cop the time will be decreased but sadly the guy who assisted in that kill didn't receive any reward. Also, there are some cases such as stealing kills which is really annoying especially when he's aiming to improve his kills in the heists. Hence, I will be voting positively.
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I know what I said, you misunderstood me. I meant what you've said right in first paragraph.
Now after you've heard our opinions and fixed your suggestion to not count the "same" amount of drugs when kill assisting but 50% of each kill assist, you've my support because it sounds reasonable and worthy. A lot of players get kill stealed, I honestly see no problem in that but having a reward for assisting is also a positive motivation to participate in ARs as well.
I just fear it of in case you shoot EVERYONE and you kill zero in AR, you will be rewarded for EVERYONE. You know, so please tell me what is your comment about this case?
I will give you an example, sometimes when the police burst in some cases many fail to catch death, most of the time assistance right? What I want to suggest is that no one leaves empty handed, understand?
The same thing is when the AR is full of criminals, there are often some criminals who can't get the kill just by assistance.
And I had put 25 drugs, because it wasn’t ALL drugs, it was 25 drugs being random. example: If I got assistance, 25 steroids. Then if I got assistance again, another 25 drugs. And so on. Now I reduced it to 10.
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I will give you an example, sometimes when the police burst in some cases many fail to catch death, most of the time assistance right? What I want to suggest is that no one leaves empty handed, understand?
The same thing is when the AR is full of criminals, there are often some criminals who can't get the kill just by assistance.
And I had put 25 drugs, because it wasn’t ALL drugs, it was 25 drugs being random. example: If I got assistance, 25 steroids. Then if I got assistance again, another 25 drugs. And so on. Now I reduced it to 10.
Makes sense. If that the amount of drugs you have a suggestion for kill assist is the minimum number of actual kill reward, then I support the idea. :thumb:
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This is a very useful idea in my eyes. The endless fight about who kills and who doesn't is been going on for years because of that(High wanted levels/APBs excluded) it just always seems that some people are crawling to get a kill in ARs and this wouldn't completely solve such a big problem but it would please the majority as they will get their deserved share at least. I seen people get insane kill assists in CEs/ARs but at least in CEs they get drugs as a reward and that should apply on ARs too. Its only logical.
Positive.
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The amount of drugs given to the assistant seems fair considering that sometimes it's hard to get a kill when there are too many players attempting to an AR, so it's good to have some kind of reward to motivate people.
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I mean, what's the point of coming to ARs to trying to farm some drugs ap/rp and you got ksed all of a sudden without getting anything ? It's pretty lame. Well let me say this. I actually really like this suggestion and it seems fair because as you all can tell. In CEs you get a small amount of drugs when you got an assist so I would love this feature to get added into the game it will motivate people to attend to ARs and also make them more enjoyable. Nonetheless giving this a Positive, other than that cheers!
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So after reading the topic and most of the replies ,the 50% reward sounds the best and you did a good job changing it to that .Furthermore ,there is sort of a chaos in AR’s and you might not end up killing people but you might just get assists if you are the first person to rush in and that is kind of sad ,because you lead your team to secure the area and you don’t get rewarded ,while if this gets implemented the first people that rush in and die for their team will get rewarded with some drugs .That’s how I see it and it looks like a great suggestion .
So I will vote Positive :tick:
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This suggestion should've added before in my opinion because lot's of players steal's kills . I hated them so much back in time and I still hate them. I may have lost my precious time and wanted points because of them. I'm voting positive and I want to see this in game as soon as possible. :tick:
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Your opinion is needed at this time
this will be good to be added because some times there are some cases such as stealing kills which is really annoying especially will make players uncomfortable, we need to add this feature to help balance equal to players participating in armed robberies
My vote is Positive :tick:
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In fact, it is a great idea but honestly I think criminals take drugs from CE in a good quantity or by other ways , In fact too, this will destroy market prices because most of the people will take more and at the time of sale there will be huge quantities in the market and no one will buy much and This will lead to an economic crisis over drugs.
Sorry i'm Negative
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In fact, it is a great idea but honestly I think criminals take drugs from CE in a good quantity or by other ways , In fact too, this will destroy market prices because most of the people will take more and at the time of sale there will be huge quantities in the market and no one will buy much and This will lead to an economic crisis over drugs.
Sorry i'm Negative
I respect your opinion, but nowadays what I see is that almost nobody buys drugs through F7, that is, it is not affecting the economy as you say. Drugs can be sold by BOTs precisely through F7. I just want no one to leave empty handed in armed robberies
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I just want no one to leave empty handed in armed robberies
What makes you think people leave empty handed from armed robberies ::)
Cause you see right there: https://imgur.com/a/O4X8gi8 I have around 180M worth of drugs and I didn't buy a piece of it from the market, I got em all from CE/AR kills despite the fact that I'm not even stopping drugs when I go AFK for hours... I just earn 5-10X more drugs than I spend whenever I'm online trust me
Edit: Maybe you can turn this suggestion title to: Getting drugs when you get assistance in Armed Robbery for new players 'cause like I proved above, experienced players like me don't have any problems earning drugs. But then again, new players already have unlimited drugs enabled until their playtime reaches to certain amount like 30H right?
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What makes you think people leave empty handed from armed robberies ::)
Cause you see right there: https://imgur.com/a/O4X8gi8 I have around 180M worth of drugs and I didn't buy a piece of it from the market, I got em all from CE/AR kills despite the fact that I'm not even stopping drugs when I go AFK for hours... I just earn 5-10X more drugs than I spend whenever I'm online trust me
Edit: Maybe you can turn this suggestion title to: Getting drugs when you get assistance in Armed Robbery for new players 'cause like I proved above, experienced players like me don't have any problems earning drugs. But then again, new players already have unlimited drugs enabled until their playtime reaches to certain amount like 30H right?
As I said, not everyone has this advantage that you have to have this much drugs, I just just suggested that no one should leave armed robberies empty-handed. This is simple, everyone will have the right to win drugs, from novice to experienced...
Most of the time there are people who go to robberies and instead of winning drugs, they usually lose about 5 to 7 drugs due to AR. And earning in assistance at least he can get a little out of the profit.
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What makes you think people leave empty handed from armed robberies ::)
Cause you see right there: https://imgur.com/a/O4X8gi8 I have around 180M worth of drugs and I didn't buy a piece of it from the market, I got em all from CE/AR kills despite the fact that I'm not even stopping drugs when I go AFK for hours... I just earn 5-10X more drugs than I spend whenever I'm online trust me
Edit: Maybe you can turn this suggestion title to: Getting drugs when you get assistance in Armed Robbery for new players 'cause like I proved above, experienced players like me don't have any problems earning drugs. But then again, new players already have unlimited drugs enabled until their playtime reaches to certain amount like 30H right?
Many cops leave ARs empty handed because of ksers... so, those people should at least earn something from their assistance.
Regarding to amount of drugs I don't have any idea of how many would be fair or just giving it same as CEs to be more simple.
Anyway I'm positive with it, since it would benefit everyone and decrease some unfairness cases.
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After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:
- 14 positive votes.
- 1 negative votes.
The topic remains a neutral priority.
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As someone also stated that this system might be buggy. If the developer can do something about that thing and made the system of assisting more clear than I see no harm in adding this suggestion. Also, people can ks you easily nowadays and this suggestion will motivate them and they will try to damage also instead of focusing on ks only. Also, people join armed robbery primarily for drugs so adding this suggestion is in fact more logical and effective. Positive from me :tick:
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Those who kill or steal kill in ARs really gain an advantage.However, those who make assists are left with only assists.Considering the number of drugs the person assisting in the proposal will win, I don't think that this will bring injustice.For these reasons I'm positive :tick:
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Indeed this is a really good suggestion. Most of the people can't make that much by doing most of the work ( assist ) losing a big part of their rewards to KSers that without much work can make it. This way I do think that rewarding more drugs to people who get assists is a really nice Idea. Positive from me :tick:
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Nice Idea Mostly Doing assists and cant kill cops cuz they arenot skilled for kill a cop in Armed Robbery in AR to kill cop is hard sometimes but sometimes when u are killing a cop or a crim u are getting assist cuz someone steals it from Away or just comes out shots 1 and leaves after that u are dying and getting nothing so this update will help us to get a small amount of drugs and not doing for nothing
Positive :tick:
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In my opinion it would be a great idea, it would attract more people to the AR, being fair to many people who cause a lot of damage but cannot kill due to the number of people, both for both teams,having more options to farm. My vote is positive :tick:
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Hello, Good Day/Night,
This feature already existing in Crime event if you are having kill-assist on the event. but this feature does not have in Armed Robbery. We all know that Armed Robbery is the most active than the Criminal event sometimes outnumbered crims in AR's and frustrating when you give full effort to kill the cops and they will steal it from you it is like you wasting your ammo for nothing but thanks for this suggestion can help the AR's active and also having fun with it. there is no advantage with this both sides will have these benefits too and I don't see anything harm in this suggestion so I'm going to give you big POSITIVE Good luck with the other votes fellas!
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Indeed this is a really good suggestion. Most of the people can't make that much by doing most of the work ( assist ) losing a big part of their rewards to KSers that without much work can make it. This way I do think that rewarding more drugs to people who get assists is a really nice Idea. Positive from me :tick:
LOL
You call them KSers and at the same time you think they deserve a reward!
North
Didn't you say that Kill Assistant is not an important thing in another suggestion? I wonder how you suggest reward for kill assistant when you don't even consider what they do valuable!!!
As I found the system sometimes does not detect the actual people who assisted in a kill and this means that sometimes people that don't deserve the reward will get the reward. People who assist in kills do a valuable job in events but before we reward them we have to fix the script that fails to detect the actual people who assisted in a kill.
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LOL
You call them KSers and at the same time you think they deserve a reward!
North
Didn't you say that Kill Assistant is not an important thing in another suggestion? I wonder how you suggest reward for kill assistant when you don't even consider what they do valuable!!!
As I found the system sometimes does not detect the actual people who assisted in a kill and this means that sometimes people that don't deserve the reward will get the reward. People who assist in kills do a valuable job in events but before we reward them we have to fix the script that fails to detect the actual people who assisted in a kill.
haha bro, it's amazing how you want to discuss a topic right. Come on, as I remember you suggested that we have top Assistance for CE / AR, and what benefits you in that? let other players know that you assisted?. It is one thing for you to make a suggestion that benefits and get some drugs, than appearing on top of assistance without getting anything.
When I made this suggestion, I made it very clear that criminals and cops would win the same amount of drugs, won't it benefit? Better than having top assistance and not earning anything. I think that was why your suggestion was not very good.
We must think about the community and what it can help, not just its preferences. If you don't want to help, you don't need to waste your time on my topic.
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haha bro, it's amazing how you want to discuss a topic right. Come on, as I remember you suggested that we have top Assistance for CE / AR, and what benefits you in that? let other players know that you assisted?. It is one thing for you to make a suggestion that benefits and get some drugs, than appearing on top of assistance without getting anything.
When I made this suggestion, I made it very clear that criminals and cops would win the same amount of drugs, won't it benefit? Better than having top assistance and not earning anything. I think that was why your suggestion was not very good.
We must think about the community and what it can help, not just its preferences. If you don't want to help, you don't need to waste your time on my topic.
1-This happens when you rush to farm a post without having a research or enough knowledge about the topic. People in top always get rewards. :fp:
2-You consider Kill Assistance useless as you said. Could you explain why would you ask for reward something you consider not valuable?
3-The script that detects Kill Assistance fails to detect the actual people who helped in the kill so rewarding people that didn't help in killing a player is pointless. If the script is fixed, I already agreed on Kill Assistance being a valuable job in events.
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Hello,
I completely agree with you in what you say, this will increase fairness between the two sides, it usually happens that the player who got the help and caused more damage is the one who was stolen by the players so, it will be a great addition to armed robbery, I'll vote Positive, good luck.
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People who are constantly not fighting, they keep waiting and waiting with full HP and armor in order once they see someone with low hp they suddenly appear and still your kill. Couldn't agree more with this suggestion. Totally upvoting. Hope it gets added so people wont rage so much about kill-stealing.
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After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:
- 21 positive votes. (1 positives wont be count due to one negative vote)
- 1 negative votes.
Marking the suggestion as a Medium priority.
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yeah it good idea cause a lot of times there are kills steelers and they take my kills and I don't get any thing and it should be get drugs + REC points for assits kills POSITIVE :tick:
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I agree totally, we criminals keep getting KS and not getting the drugs we spent, assists should somehow give some drugs (not as much who killed) but would be way more fair.
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I believe there should be reward for participating into getting someone killed on AR. Therefore it would be nice compliment if we allowed players who take part in killing X player get a reward. specially now when people fight, get someone on low hp and before they reload, someone runs out and kill steals with sniper shot.
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The amount 10 is pretty enough for a assist and most of the time people lose their kills because of their bad positions and the bad tactic they use. So giving them a little take like 10 drugs is enough.And it effects for both sides not for only one side which is very fair and there isn't any bad sides other than good sides in this so my vote is Positive :tick:
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This should Definitely Get added. People starts a beef for KS within seconds, Causing them to flame. Adding this would actually decrease selfishness for the KSers. Giving 10 Drugs to the Assister isnt that much tbh. People will finally start to be more into fighting than KSing. My vote for the addition of assist reward will nevertheless be Positive :tick:
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Personally, I think it would be a great idea, since we police officers only get drugs in criminal events (this, if we get assistance or a kill, otherwise we don't get anything), we all cops know that drugs are very important when it comes to pvp so receiving drugs for kill or assistance in AR would be great, since many cop, including myself, we don't get many drugs (either because a cop don't like to attend CEs or because of the lag that these cause many times). My vote is positive.
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27 positive votes and 1 negative vote so 1 positive vote will not be counted.
It'll be marked as High Priority whenever there's a free spot.
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yes I think this is a good suggestion you said, because most people do not prefer CE anymore, if we look at the majority of the game everyone in AR, (if there are 10 people in CE (non-award-winning CE) there are 25-30 people in AR) and no one in AR Can't benefit from something, only 1 minute is reduced, I think a good suggestion, my vote for you is positive
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I think it would be a great idea, it will encourage the criminal to not be AFK at ARs ^-^
:tick: positive for me.
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This will be just like BR, assist = giving drugs randomly, or afaik all kind of drugs. Btw, I am postive, why? Everytime, I was going to kill anyone, I make his HP, 1-10 and someone steal it. That's the problem how it's going on, so I am positive as I said before.
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I've joined many ARs and I have been KSed multiple times so I think this suggestion will be a lovely addition since many people are about to get the kill but they die/get KSed etc. so adding this will make both sides (Killer-Assister) get something in return because it's not fair that only CE's assisters get drugs and AR's assisters get nothing at all. And this will make more people attend ARs as well since as we all know nowadays criminals crack ARs and Cops go to the CE instead of getting nothing in ARs. Positive with this.
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Marked as High Priority.
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- Kill assisters in armed robberies will now get 30% of the rewards. (Arran + North)