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Ingame Community => News and Updates => Topic started by: Sinon on 14 05, 2020, 10:43:47 am
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Basically, the idea is way simple to be explained, however, I will go on.
Criminal Bosses are able to kick/ban any criminal/gangster from the riot, this case works for trollers or even if anyone who disruptive the area by any form, this access allows us to clear the area from them, however before a couple of days I faced an issue that is if a criminal/gangster got Banned from the riot area (which each time he/she tries to get in the area he/she will instantly die), however, he/she turned into a civilian and kept disruptive the gathering by trolling, knocking us off the threshold doing improper animations towards us and kept punishing everyone, this actually annoying and what's frustrating is that I could not do anything about it since he/she is a civilian and at that time there were no any online staff, and doing a forum complaint won't be handled in like 1-2 minutes, and this is not the first time we face something like that, many civilians kept trolling us or even blocking the gathering by their vehicles or even trying to sell armor with their vehicle which blocks us, the riot is basically about 2 sides cops and criminals, the more people there the more fps drop, I'm not saying that every civilian is forbidden to enter the area, just the trollers and to anyone who disruptive it.
The solution:
Basically we will get the access to deal with the civilians that inside the area as we deal with the criminals/gangsters, trolling or disruptive the riot by any form will lead to getting banned from the area, and any criminal/gangster who got banned won't be able to enter the area even if he/she turned into a civilian, these will helps a lot to organize the riot.
Here I will mention all the current CBs to share their thoughts about this suggestion and to state if they faced anything similar.
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It must be frustrating, I’ve experienced such issue myself as a cop during riots actually. Civilians keep on trolling such events either by their vehicles or blocking the area trying to sell some items. Criminals shouldn’t be allowed inside of the riot, yet they could stay a few blocks away from it in order to provide us with equipment such as armor. Supporting
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It has happened many times. When CBs ban players from riot as criminal because of trolling, they do the same again but as a civilian. Civilians are still able to troll the riots, especially when gathering, so I am supporting this suggestion.
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I do not see anything wrong with it. It is true that civillians are able to troll the riot area using different tactics, while not always meant bad, It damages the riot. Often they almost block the entrances using boxvilles while trying to sell armor. This is frustrating for both sides.
Considering only CBs would be getting this perk , it will also prevent abuse. Even if we look at it from a role play POV , civillians should not be able to enter riot area.
Positive
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Hello.How do we know you're not going to use that against players you hate here ?
In order to implement this, the necessary measures should be taken and it may be absurd to kick/ban directly.At first, the player must be warned through the panel and then kick/ban action must be done.Trial Criminal Bosses should not have access to this kick/ban panel.After all, they're on trial and once they prove themselves to be a Criminal Boss, they'll be able to use it anyway.
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Hello.How do we know you're not going to use that against players you hate here ?
In order to implement this, the necessary measures should be taken and it may be absurd to kick/ban directly.At first, the player must be warned through the panel and then kick/ban action must be done.Trial Criminal Bosses should not have access to this kick/ban panel.After all, they're on trial and once they prove themselves to be a Criminal Boss, they'll be able to use it anyway.
We have a system of our own which will avoid these misusing. We already have this feature but it works for only criminals, and so far there have been no complaints, and there will be no complaints.
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Really useful suggestion. This has happened to me so many times, random civilians either because they want to troll or because they are new to the server get in the way of riots. I've had a few vehicles stolen when i'm in the middle of a huge riot and I didn't notice it because of it. Other times people keep getting in the way of my shots or come and punch me when i'm trying to survive. Maybe even something more could be added so we can "mark" trolling players by pressing x and clicking on them and then CB's can kick them, thus giving non-CB's the option to stop trollers when a CB isn't next to them.
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Greetings,
I agree with you it's really annoying, there is too many civilians join the riots areas in order to troll and ruin it by blocking criminals with their vehicles so in my opinion giving CBs the ability to kick/ban any civilian from the riots areas to avoid such childish things like sinon stated above would be helpful for everyone and espacilly for gangsters/criminals. upvoting
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Upvoting... it's not once or twice, it's almost every criminal activity and riot problem, some criminals or even cops to be specific turn into civilians and start trolling the activity by turning into civilians , they can block you when fighting and that's honestly pisses off by just standing infront of you so you don't fire with your weapons and cops kill you that happened for me orr anyone can confirm that happened for him. Not to talk about stealing crims cars and medics who block criminals or even blocking entrances with their vehicles. I highly support this kind of suggestions to prevent trollers from doing their silly actions and give admins more time to support people or to assist someone instead of calling them to every troller.
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Hello.How do we know you're not going to use that against players you hate here ?
In order to implement this, the necessary measures should be taken and it may be absurd to kick/ban directly.At first, the player must be warned through the panel and then kick/ban action must be done.Trial Criminal Bosses should not have access to this kick/ban panel.After all, they're on trial and once they prove themselves to be a Criminal Boss, they'll be able to use it anyway.
We have a system of our own which will avoid these misusing. We already have this feature but it works for only criminals, and so far there have been no complaints, and there will be no complaints.
Why would any Criminal Boss use his ability to do this? CBs/PCs/SOs worked hard to be where they are now. They are aware of the consequences of this kind of usage. Also CIT has a report system if any of these bosses uses their power bad. I'm upvoting this to be honest there is no need to argue. This will make riots, crim events way more better. It's a win win situation for cops and criminals.
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Hello.How do we know you're not going to use that against players you hate here ?
In order to implement this, the necessary measures should be taken and it may be absurd to kick/ban directly.At first, the player must be warned through the panel and then kick/ban action must be done.Trial Criminal Bosses should not have access to this kick/ban panel.After all, they're on trial and once they prove themselves to be a Criminal Boss, they'll be able to use it anyway.
With all your mean words, use your common sense please, we can’t kick the cops, also sometimes we don’t need to warn anybody before kicking/banning them, also you don’t teach us about how our role play, please stick to the suggestion.
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After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:
- 7 positive votes.
- 0 negative votes.
- 0 neutral votes.
The topic will remain as neutral priority.
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Staffs aren't free to handle this kind of trolling every time Since civilians are always trying to troll criminals in Riots and Criminal Boss can't do anything as they can't use their power to kick noncriminal players from Riot and cops might get more advantages to win the Riot quickly. This suggestion will be beneficial to all criminals and criminal bosses. Positive
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Some civilian players can go into riot area and block criminals and disturb them just for troll. Staff(s) should step in here, right? But most of the time, staff can't take away people like that because they're busy with other duties or aren't online. I think it could be given to Criminal Bosses to use that authority against civilians as well. I'm voting positive, good luck.
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good idea I think it could help many criminals in CE some times you will find some civilians in riot area they are just blocking and doing nothing and some times they are newbies who are just shooting randomly and if you talk with them they won't understand or they can't answer and this annoying I used to if I want to host a riot with CB I told him JFM is better than streets because of civilians so I think it is a helpful and useful idea so I will give you my vote Positive good luck :tick: .
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Positive, I read your suggestion as you mentioned [READ], and it makes way sense, just by looking at it I already know this is painful to see, we will be getting trolled by people that we can't do anything about, especially the blockers, doing what you have said will come in handy for sure, therefore I'm positive.
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I'm positively agree with you, this has to be stop, we are getting trolled by the civilians many times and we can't do anything about it, and that's frustrating honestly, I mean the staff may not be around most of the times, so if they were not around we can't do anything about it?, or we should just call off the riot, that does not make sense to me, thus I'm positive.
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Marked as medium priority
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Actually these civilians are not only an issue for criminals, their actions are having negative effects on cops as well. It's so annoying to be in a fight with a criminal and a civilian to come from nowhere and to start blocking your bullets. Or another example is when you're about to make an assault and X civilian come and block the entrance from where you want to make the assault, in other words to ruin your plan. So yeah, I am supporting the suggestion.
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I do not see anything wrong with it. It is true that civillians are able to troll the riot area using different tactics, while not always meant bad, It damages the riot. Often they almost block the entrances using boxvilles while trying to sell armor. This is frustrating for both sides.
Considering only CBs would be getting this perk , it will also prevent abuse. Even if we look at it from a role play POV , civillians should not be able to enter riot area.
Positive :tick:
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Well If we speak about trollers of course this should be added . It will def avoid trollers to troll .
But what about medics ??? , what about civilians who just work ??? It will not be fair for them .
My vote is neutral :cros: :tick: ,you should add more details like rules for this because some of civilians like I mentioned are NEEDED . Give me more reasons and I will positive :tick:
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But what about medics ??? , what about civilians who just work ??? It will not be fair for them .
Obviously they will not be banned from the riot if they are not causing any harm. CBs have common sense and logic.
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Well If we speak about trollers of course this should be added . It will def avoid trollers to troll .
But what about medics ??? , what about civilians who just work ??? It will not be fair for them .
My vote is neutral :cros: :tick: ,you should add more details like rules for this because some of civilians like I mentioned are NEEDED . Give me more reasons and I will positive :tick:
In addition of what Thehacker said, it’s obviously you have not read the whole post, as I actually explained that not every civilians are forbidden to enter the area, all I suggested is to have the access to be able to kick any civilian who disruptive the riot by any form as it goes to any criminal.
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Once I attended the riot hosted by Hacker at Outlaws hood and there was a civ in truck just honking and annoying so badly that hacker had to call admin, it would have been much better if he could just kick him from there and he also blocked one side of the hood with truck. And another scene was at C-Villa, where a guy with ice cream truck kept on playing that annoying music while all were gathering. This power should also be available at C=Villa while criminals are gathering. I am voting Positive.
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Well I support this idea and I think not only CB should can kick/ban civilians from riot but PCs too. Civilian players are mostly nice players but there will be always some trolls who will troll riot on different uncounted ways and it can affect not only criminals but cops too.
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I totally agree with this suggestion, most civilians use the riots area to sell armors etc .. , non trollish or blocking ones are really useful for the team. Although civilians who troll / or disturb the riot will affect the gameplay for both criminals / law. Banning those kinds of civilians will let the riot much more fun, and worth to keep attending. Unlike someone who is cotinuously trolling should be banned from the riot area. Positive
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I've noticed sometimes that newbies sometimes end up blocking the entrance of riots or just staying AFK, which can be abused by anyone so Criminal bosses being able to kick civilians to prevent abuse or trolls from taking over riots. It would be a great idea. This Addition would be great and it could be helpful in-case a person places his boxvile in the riot area while being a civilian or just working as a medic in general and blocking others, Upvoting.
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Well, sometimes a civilian trolling criminal or officer and, civilian on ghost mode none can touch him only staff can slap So, Civilian can block officer or criminal because he's in ghost mode, I think CBs needs this to stop trolling of some civilian and, CBs should set rules about that after adding this like police chief
Positive
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Even as one of FBI leaders, but I think this problem is common and we really get tired of that in LAW Side, I don't think that adding this feature for CBs will be harm, and it's fully useful for them, I'm Positive with this suggestion, and I hope it can be added as soon as possible, because I think it's easy to be scripted.
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I hope this suggestion will be good solution for trollers who come to riot area. I've noticed some civilians blocking area with vehicles or something like this, so CBs should be able to kick them.
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I’m voting positive, I honestly agree with you, it’s really annoying, I’ve faced those trollers, and we couldn’t do anything about them, one of them was blocking an entrance so he just can sell armor, and the other was literally blocking us to prevent us from shooting/killing the cops, not to mention if your vehicle was outside they may take it and destroy it or even throw it in the sea, and the list goes, therefor I do believe it’s necessary to let the CBs able to kick/ban them, since most of them are actually trollers. I only attended like 3 riots and that happened which shows how it's really annoying and happening each time they do a riot.
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Its really so frustrating to hear players ruining Riots through changing their occupation to Civilian and nobody can deal with that except staffs. Really I got bothered many times with that problem in Riots area. A Civilian player came to the Riot area and recovered his huge aircraft, and many players wasnt able to move or shot. And all of them lost their wanted level because that trollers. And staffs wasnt available to come in the appropriate time and kick that troller. Thats really so disappointing
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I believe it's really annoying since there is some peoples are just abusing it in order to troll the event with their childish behavior as they can easily block anyone with their car either provoke anyone with such animation etc so in my opinion giving the CB's the ability to kick or ban civilians from the riot area is a good addition, upvoting.
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I'm going with big Positive, I've read most of the replies and we all share the same thought, that civilians are honestly annoying at the riots since they are in the ghost mode so you can't do anything about them, but what is actually annoying is if they were blocking something, such as the door, or even an entrance, despite that, they are not necessary to be around, since the riot is already a crowded area, so no need for many unnecessary players since it will only cause more FPS drop, and the biggest frustrating part is, only the staff team are able to deal with them, which sometimes none of them are actually online or even busy when they are, so giving this access to the criminal bosses, I believe it will fix many things for both sides, with everything stated, I'm voting positive.
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I agree since too many civs come and troll when their is a riot they use boxvilles and food van,but also selling armors food is riot area is really porfitabel for them so its a good idea to only kick the one blocking or causing any problems in the riot area so yes its a good ideas should be added.i will give my vote as positive
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After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:
- 28 positive votes.
- 0 negative votes.
- 1 neutral votes.
Marked as high priority.
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After observing in some few days while in riot , I saw that some civilians are blocking the ways where should Criminal make their way to run or hide and it is so annoying for me. I guess that kick system will work so he still can go back to the riot and so he might notice that he is blocking the ways and change his position or place. Thus , I am supporting this.
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After joining / participating in outdoor riots, I have seen few civillians that were getting wanted level (mostly medics) when healing PED's on streets, implementing this idea will prevent civillians getting WL and getting killed by cops, nonetheless, im voting POSITIVE :tick: for this one.
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It is so disturbing to be blocked by civilians mostly players with low playtime. They often do it to protect their friends and it can be unfair for both sides. They also can block our sights via driving vehicle in front of us. They should be verbally warned first to avoid any unfairness for civilians, too. I trust in CBs, I hope there will be no unfairness for all. I am supporting your idea, positive.
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It's so frustrating to get killed in a riot because you got blocked by a civilian. that happened to me many times and it made me angry but can't get mad at any of them as most of them are newbies. so this suggestion will make it easier for us and for them to have fun. I am really Supporting this idea.
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Perfect suggestion and nice addition, I think this will help the sides (cops / criminals) so the civilian is his mission or he works for the money or the level, but the cops or criminals' mission is also for money and the level but for the cops to keep LS clean from criminals and criminals against this, the riots are only for the cops, criminals, or sometimes paramedics. i'm Positive
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I see your point, it's valid enough to enable this ability to the CBs. I would suggest to kick anyone who make a big distributive to the riot area such as blocking the vehicles, blocking the players...etc. The best way to prevent the abusive ability of the civilians to block the riot area is to be able to kick/ban them from Riot area. I'd vote positively.
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I'm supporting this idea, Every I responded in the Riots some civilians placed there "sell foods", and "boxville" in the wrong place some are medics, when I'm in situation in combat some civilians medic are blocking my way and my aiming so that I can't kill wanted criminals kinda annoying. Blocking the main door by there vehicle recovering in any circumstances that I'm running out to be not and got stucked. Civilians can place outside that can't be annoying and harm the other players in riot in a one right place possibly that can be a good feedbacks in police officers and criminals. I'm Positive
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