This would make another chaos and repeating the shit again. It is better to stop talking about this. But if you really have something against this you should make one topic for every preferences.What do you mean another chaos while we're having currently 51 players in LV 39 in 1 single side and the other side having 11 players only
Negative.
We must choose how we will playI'm not the one who choose that preferences to stick with
Negative
What do you mean another chaos while we're having currently 51 players in LV 37 in 1 single side and the other side having 14 players onlyYou know the history about how we can treat LV players? You guys are so special even you have many preferences. If we disable this shit again in the next week another player from LV will make another suggestion to make a preferences. As I said we are bored about your problems while another side make some improvements you guys always asking for reverting and upgrading. So, here we go again! The cyclus never end.
so the side with 37 players can control the whole gameplay of LV by making it classic LV so it cannot be playable for the 14 players or by enabling RPG spam.
You know the history about how we can treat LV players? You guys are so special even you have many preferences. If we disable this shit again in the next week another player from LV will make another suggestion to make a preferences. As I said we are bored about your problems while another side make some improvements you guys always asking for reverting and upgrading. So, here we go again! The cyclus never end.let's wait for the votes and it gonna decide what's gonna happen if most of the LV players supported this idea if the lower percentage like 10% who doesn't support it made 1000 suggestions it won't be even supported or accepted.
Just like this image.
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AHAHA that's why some LV clowns tried to disable LS turfs so they could ruin our LV x LS (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872775242773331990/872795721361915904/mta-screen_2021-08-05_01-51-26.png) takeover you hypocrite, and if that's the case so, then LV players shouldn't be able to vote about any shit in LS, and btw we were 32 on.here is real proof of how someone can gather 32 people to change the gameplay of a whole city the speed and change everything a real live proof of how that system should be removed.
Okay, we have a live example right now and that's the MAIN reason why I chose to make this suggestion.i consider changing it to positive, then. :tick:
we have ChaosGuardians as an example they decided to come to play in LV so they changed OUR Gameplay so they can play it alone and take LV
[LV] Classic / Old LV: Yes (Yes: 19 No: 14)
what stability u guys talking about if any group of people can change the gameplay the mechanics and everything okay now LV is unplayable because of that preferences system I like the fact most of the people who voted negative aren't LV players and didn't face this issue before.
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Players have the right to play in any style they want without being forced to play in a specific style. I'm voting negative.What about the other players? those who don't have the number to actually make a change and enjoy fighting cracks, screw them right?
Okay, we have a live example right now and that's the MAIN reason why I chose to make this suggestion.
we have ChaosGuardians as an example they decided to come to play in LV so they changed OUR Gameplay so they can play it alone and take LV
[LV] Classic / Old LV: Yes (Yes: 19 No: 14)
what stability u guys talking about if any group of people can change the gameplay the mechanics and everything okay now LV is unplayable because of that preferences system I like the fact most of the people who voted negative aren't LV players and didn't face this issue before.
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Okay, we have a live example right now and that's the MAIN reason why I chose to make this suggestion.
we have ChaosGuardians as an example they decided to come to play in LV so they changed OUR Gameplay so they can play it alone and take LV
[LV] Classic / Old LV: Yes (Yes: 19 No: 14)
what stability u guys talking about if any group of people can change the gameplay the mechanics and everything okay now LV is unplayable because of that preferences system I like the fact most of the people who voted negative aren't LV players and didn't face this issue before.
(https://i.imgur.com/jcHR5Qz.png)
EDIT:here is real proof of how someone can gather 32 people to change the gameplay of a whole city the speed and change everything a real live proof of how that system should be removed.
Voting is one of the good features that we can get, everyone will vote for what they want and the more votes the more quality and it looks totally fair.we're talking about voting in LV and I can see from your player statics you have 2402 hours (https://i.imgur.com/J57JNc4.png) while you have 0 playtime in LV (https://i.imgur.com/TzYzeEe.png) and low LV stats (https://i.imgur.com/oMaPWLH.png) which means you're not playing in LV all the time so you never faced this issue maybe you're visiting LV once a month
-Negative :cros:
we're talking about voting in LV and I can see from your player statics you have 2402 hours (https://i.imgur.com/J57JNc4.png) while you have 0 playtime in LV (https://i.imgur.com/TzYzeEe.png) and low LV stats (https://i.imgur.com/oMaPWLH.png) which means you're not playing in LV all the time so you never faced this issue maybe you're visiting LV once a month
since April you just played 14 hours so I guess u never faced this issue in LV before so I don't know you're just voting about what. but I appreciate your vote but for me, it's non-sense
I can call out ten different people from this same post with exact same case, stop calling people out when you've barely step foot in LV yourself, people are free to post in the thread. The reason this "preference" thing was created was due to several changes to the LV gameplay style within short periods of time. You wouldn't know that but would be the first to jump out and call on people like a baffoon.I called Chaos because it happened after I created this suggestion, it was a live example second point if you're reading the topic carefully you would found out I said no for sea sparrow so just re-read the post instead of jumping and post useless words. as I said I appreciate the guy vote and he is free to do it. I said my own opinion about his vote so I can be free to say my opinion about the vote of his guy. I just wanted to prove some statics of the voters and you're free to call out the ten different people
You've called out Chaos for doing this, meanwhile, you and your alliance do the same thing, it's fairly easy to point fingers at others and overlook oneself. Chaos barely plays in LV, people can pull up stats if needed. That preference gets updated maybe at most four-five times a week.
I don't mind removing some of those preferences, but I really don't want to play with 250+ ping players using undamageable sea sparrows.
I called Chaos because it happened after I created this suggestion, it was a live example second point if you're reading the topic carefully you would found out I said no for sea sparrow so just re-read the post instead of jumping and post useless words. as I said I appreciate the guy vote and he is free to do it. I said my own opinion about his vote so I can be free to say my opinion about the vote of his guy. I just wanted to prove some statics of the voters and you're free to call out the ten different people
not everyone is gona agree with your own LV pref,you're gona need to make a poll here or vote or whatever it is,and guess what everyone is gona come voting no or yes because that LV players told him to do it and there is no way it aint gona hapend,its just another war of LV sides but in voting,and then we're gona see wall of suggestions of bringing back old speed or anything or any fucking shit,so just keep things as they're and say alhamdulillah , just like LS, 8 or 9 topics in the last 3 months about removing LS and every topic have atleast 11 pages and it didnt go infavor because every city is split in two sides,the guys with the positives votes and the negatives votes,and the other 2 citys is also split in 2 sides,the helpers of the negative votes team and the other helpers of the positive votes team.
i'm not gona vote ,i just gave my opinion
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If a moderator counts the vote and enough players support this then we'll have a poll as to what to keep the preferences permanently as.
1- If your suggestion is clearly supported, moderators can mark it as Medium/High Priority without needing to wait 7 days. The same applies if your suggestion is clearly unsupported, we are free to lock it. Moreover, moderators can lock a suggestion if it got less than 5 votes in 4 days.Marked as High priority.
Poll added to topic. Vote open for 7 days.
The fact that these preferences are still being voted on by players makes it functional and not useless, as the main point of the preference is the presentation of the majority will (LV players to be specific) which seems not to be applied here as an in-game. If someone asked me to vote on something I don't want to be applied, I simply ignore it. and if the majority voted on something then this is not abuse, but the majority voted for it which sounds more reasonable than the minority having control over the gameplay.
That's not how democracy should work in theory, given the example of the one group and an alliance having control of the "majority" of the player count, it's very clear. Taking into consideration that the system was intended to be used fairly among the players, it is being abused by controlling the gameplay favoring the groups and alliances with a much higher members count. That's also how democracy is being abused at every other community or society, give all the people ability to cast a vote on very influential changes, without demanding or evaluating reasons behind them, and you get some particular group of people influencing every other people's votes to gain advantages for themselves. Democracy's flaws explained on the in-game incidence, what would you not learn by games, huh?
Projectile Cool Down: Yes 52 (3.8%)
Projectile Cool Down: No 71 (5.2%)
Explosive Resistance: Yes 56 (4.1%)
Explosive Resistance: No 68 (5%)
Well, the main point of the suggestion is to remove the LV preferences and stick with specific options.
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Therefore I'm here to suggest removing LV preference and we will stick with:Show contentExplosive Resistance: No
Classic / Old LV: No
Drop Grenade When Running: Yes
200 Max Health: Yes
Sea Sparrow Shooting: No
Sniper Instant Shoot: Yes
Buy RPG Command: Yes
Switch When Throwing Exploit: Yes
Extra Game Speed: Yes
Switch When Shooting: Yes
Projectile Cool Down: No
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Poll added to topic. Vote open for 7 days.
That's not how democracy should work in theory, given the example of the one group and an alliance having control of the "majority" of the player count, it's very clear. Taking into consideration that the system was intended to be used fairly among the players, it is being abused by controlling the gameplay favoring the groups and alliances with a much higher members count. That's also how democracy is being abused at every other community or society, give all the people ability to cast a vote on very influential changes, without demanding or evaluating reasons behind them, and you get some particular group of people influencing every other people's votes to gain advantages for themselves. Democracy's flaws explained on the in-game incidence, what would you not learn by games, huh?What is the difference between the current in-game preference system and the current poll made? People would still call others to vote, but worse they may even call inactive people/friends with forum accounts to vote on X/Y/Z. Eventfully the current system works better than this whole vote suggest system as it mainly depend on the vote of the majority in LV. And preference enabled by the majority is better than having anything changed to perm by inactive players after being called to vote (I, myself was called to vote in here but I'm expressing my opinion), current system and the way it works by active majority LV players is better than any other changes like this.
The thing is that I said poll "could be done", because after removing LV preferences people would be able to suggest any LV changes or additions on discussion board separately. Did I mention anywhere that a forum poll is anything better than the preferences we have currently in-game? No, let's just get rid of preferences first and then we discuss on changing or adding anything new.Yet people are voting on doing some perm changes, not to remove the preference system, then we vote. which is why I'm saying having the ingame preference vote system is way better then the votes being counted in this suggestion
Just wanted to point out that preferences with very close voting results such as 45% vs 55% should be left the way the are right now, as a preference.
Recast the same vote then and you'd have something like 55% vs 45% in favor for the previously losing preference. If the opinions are equally divided you can't have a concrete answer.