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Following on from the last news topic, which had great success, I noticed that a lot of people were bring up problems with the rules and administrators. So now we'll be focussing on the rules. In this poll, you can pick up to 3 rules, if you believe that those rules need changing or getting rid of altogether. The whole rules:
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Note: Some rules have been removed which is why there are missing numbers and the rule IDs can't change without affecting our auto punishment for repeat offending system.
2. Listen to server staff. - Server staff can be identified by a [CIT] tag and are here to help players.
3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
4. Do not cheat, exploit bugs or scam players - Cheating is defined as an unfair advantage. Do not camp in a CITy zone while you're wanted in order to avoid being arrested unless your zone is fully accessible. Hosting car shows where entrants must pay is forbidden. Scamming is mainly when you have an agreed transaction with another player but you don't intend to fulfill the transaction. It is also scamming to buy a CITy zone from the server and then sell it to someone else for unfair profit. If you do this the profit you made and the cost of the zone will be both taken from you and you will be banned for 2 weeks.
5. Do not purposefully evade ingame situations or admins by disconnecting.
6. Do not spam, complain about lag, post quick stats, or advertise outside of F10 (Car shows and events do not count). - Press J if you need to contact an admin. All admins start with [CIT]. Do not misuse the chats that are there for a purpose and not for chatting randomly in. Do not go on about somebody getting punished.
7. Do not request an unfair advantage from a member of staff. Do not request 'group job' from an official group.
8. Play nice. Don't troll or grief. Don't impersonate a player, group or squad. Only use a group tag if the group says you can. Don't harass players that are in a group base. Don't kill cops who are waiting for a criminal event to start.
9. Don't use a stupid, spammy or unacceptable name. For example the name 11111111 is stupid, use something that's actually a word!
10. CIT is a politics and religion free zone, keep real life arguments out of CIT!
11. Selling accounts, arrests, or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted and if a player scams you that is your fault for breaking this rule. Selling ingame money / VIP/ etc for real life money via PayPal is prohibited.
12. Do not flame / insult / offend people. Don't do it, ever.
13. Speak English only in main and team chat.
14. Do not misuse the CIT support chat. "Misuse" can mean the following: spamming, flooding, non-english, advertising, flaming, trolling, warning players (especially saying "English please"), repeating a question more than once although it was already answered, repeating an answer that has already been stated at least around 6 seconds ago, asking a not CIT server related question and anything else that is not "asking a CIT server related question" or "answering a question".
18. If you have access to deploy a barrier, they must not be placed some where that will block players, this especially applies to tents which must only be placed in an open area. Barriers are intended to provided cover, not block players.
So just post below with what you have to say about the rules.
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
if we can't ask staffs to recover hijack or we can't talk with them about something/problem or anything else... then why staffs team made for ? they should do their job and if someone really annoyed/trolled them they can punish him .
i think you know what I mean .
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Rule #14
14. Do not misuse the CIT support chat. "Misuse" can mean the following: spamming, flooding, non-english, advertising, flaming, trolling, warning players (especially saying "English please"), repeating a question more than once although it was already answered, repeating an answer that has already been stated at least around 6 seconds ago, asking a not CIT server related question and anything else that is not "asking a CIT server related question" or "answering a question".
a lot of staffs punish you for no reason, even if u ask or warn someone...
admins should warn before punish you, if you didnt listen to them so they can punish you
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I'm fine with the current rules, but ...
admins shouldn't be that strict with the rules like "don't block with barriers". This rule is good but if you block something very short u shouldn't get punished, the admin should go to you and tell you what you have to do, and only punish if you don't show respect or don't listen.
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13. Speak English only in main and team chat.
1 (8.3%)14. Do not misuse the CIT support chat...
about Non English : what is the way it can Hurt or badly Effect the community ? I mean that Nothing Happen if he Talked with a Non English Words For one time , Some Times They Cannot Show what they Really means With English so he can Use Un English words for 1 time If he wanna explain NOT TO CHAT only if he wanna Explain ... hope you got me .
and Don't Misuse the support chat : why it would Hurt someone if you said " English Please " or " Dont Misuse " Actually He is Helping the Supporters and the Staff Team .. Thanks for reading
Please Mention my Name if you wanna say or edit something on my words so I can see it
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if we can't ask staffs to recover hijack or we can't talk with them about something/problem or anything else... then why staffs team made for ? they should do their job and if someone really annoyed/trolled them they can punish him .
i think you know what I mean .
We disalowed asking for the hijack to be recovered because it respawns itself so it's just impatient people being annoying.
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well guys about non English thing they have done /main so if you did non English so its like you want to do it ( I don't know how to say it ) so I think that main idea is awesome and brilliant
but when it comes to team you need to make a command for it too because u and y are very close too each other
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@HuLk<3
Though it has /main, some new players can still use it and still talk non - english in it
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I think we need a more clearer explanation on Rule 12. Depending on the admin - you can get muted for saying 'Fuck you' or 'Fuck off' but I have also been told by some admins before that words like 'Fucking nab' are allowed. In 2013 I saw many people getting muted because they said noob in mainchat. There needs to be a better clarification on this rule.
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11. Selling accounts, arrests, or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted...
Maybe take away the part about 'or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted' ... people can take their own risks.
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Maybe take away the part about 'or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted' ... people can take their own risks.
Well this kind of ties in with the whole 'Less unique players' issue. When I was a new player (was back in 2012) I said in main chat that I wanted a base (I did not own a group or anything I just wanted a personal one because I did not know the guidelines) and some guy said he will sell one for 300k, so we went to this gangs base, I gave him 300k and logged off. Getting to the point then: it takes hours for a new player to make any kind of mass money in the server (except donating of course) and I think these players will leave if someone just like me got scammed a large sum of money. Sure you could just say 'use common sense' but newer players just don't quite get the hang of the game and how it works.
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"14. Do not misuse the CIT support chat.." This rule should apply for guys with over 20 hours played or so. It's not fair for guys with 5 hours who are just testing a new feature to get muted for saying [ for example] :" pefefefe" once in the support chat.
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"14. Do not misuse the CIT support chat.." This rule should apply for guys with over 20 hours played or so. It's not fair for guys with 5 hours who are just testing a new feature to get muted for saying [ for example] :" pefefefe" once in the support chat.
And can't they say just simply "Test" or they have to spam any random word 5-6 times?
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And can't they say just simply "Test" or they have to spam any random word 5-6 times?
5-6 times it's no doubt a thing they should be punished for. Rules should be explained so all the staff members will be able to punish evenly. For example you may not punish a guy with 3 hours for saying :" KKKK " once in the support chat but some other staff member may do it. And anyway, what harm is done even is he says it not once, 3 times? Again, saying it 6 times it's a different thing.
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Remember when anyone could kill anyone outside LV? when you went afk for any reason and returned and you were in the hospital? A player could kill anyone and then an admin had to come and ask why. Then the player may or may not be jailed for deathmatch. Total waste of time. And a simple script fixed it. Why let users kill themselves if they shouldn't...
Not all problems can be addressed with a script, but if the problem is way too common, why not do it?
I already gave you an idea via PM about the non english in main/team chat. Let me rephrase it:
Why does a player talk a nonenglish language in main/team chat? I see 3 posible reasons:
1.-A newbie asking for help.
2.-A veteran player who just clicked Y/T(or the new /main bind) by mistake.
3.-A player who wants to have a "Good time" spamming...
Whats a mute? it prevents you to keep using the main chats. The second player had a mistake, so why mute him? he won't do it again, he likes the game, he wants to respect the rules. Why mute him? Oh right, its a PUNISH! so he understands and has more care next time... (all the punish mentality must go out the window). Only the third option deserves a mute. Because s/he will infact keep doing it. But how will we know?
What about having this system:
When a player says something in main/team in another language, instead of an admin muting him, have the following command "/warnlanguage <partialname>". The player will recieve a big message in his/her screen saying the following "Please talk only english in main/team chats". This message will be in his/her language (The system can detect it alone, I see in stats the country of the players).
The newbie will say "oh, ok I didn't know". The veteran will say "gosh, I made a mistake, wont happen again". And the spammer will keep spamming, so here it comes the second part:
If the user does it again in less than 1 hour, then the same command will make the message appear in his/her screen for 2 minutes (so it gets the point) and he won't be able to use anychat for those 2 minutes, but there will be no punishlog.
Finally a 3rd time, (in less than 1 hour) will mute him, and add it to punishlog. With increasing mute times every time.
Reasons for this system:
*the newbie will learn.
*the veteran wont make the mistake again.
*the server will be more friendly with players.
*The spammer will learn that even though the server is soft and friendly with players, it doesnt tolerate rule breakers.
Sure you will have some messages in another language once in a while, but you already have that, the difference is the player is punished and may not even come back again.
inbefore "Newbies must read and learn rules before even using the chats". It's true, but you must be softer with the players if you want them to keep coming back... Not all will read the rules so, you must (as an admin) do it the easier for them to do it.
We disalowed asking for the hijack to be recovered because it respawns itself so it's just impatient people being annoying.
Another example of something that can be fixed using a script. If a player writes all the following words in main, team or support chat:
"CIT/admin/staff", "recover", "hijack"
(in this example cit, admin or staff must be there, but you can make it that only recover and hijack be the words)
Instead of the message being sent, a red message would appear "Please don't ask admins for recover hijack, it recovers itself".
But players can do "cits, please recovr hojick". Well, that can be treated as nonenglish in chats using the idea above, soft and lets the user knows s/he is doing wrong.
These scripts would only need to be created for very common "rule breaks", like the ones posted above.
The rules are ok, its just matter of making them easier to digest to the players. Players don't come to the game to be "punished" because they had a mistake, especially if its its first day playing. Right now I'm sure 50% or even more of punished players didn't deserve it. I played this game for 2 years and my punishs are like 6, but all of them were because of simple mistakes, I am a well behaved player.
Advertise outside f10.
First of all, noone uses F10. Even you said it once when you created GLA xd...
I already advised you in my PM to go play a game made by a professional company, like WoW. To learn from them. So I will tell you how 90% of the games I have played handle this situation:
They have a chat channel called "trade". And then players can even spam 10 times whatever they selling. Player who don't like to see it, can easily disable it in "J" interface. You may think that spam would be an issue... If it isnt an issue on other games, it wont be in this one.
Inbefore the most commonly used argument used everytime someone suggest a new chat. "We dont need 100000000 new chats! J is already overloaded!"... well, the argument is so idiotic I dont think it needs a reply.
This chat will be much more useful than f10, so the ammount of players trying to advertise in main will be less. The ones who still do, can have the same treatment as the ones talking in other languages (the messages I suggested above). command "/warnadvertise <partialname>".
You can (as admins) think what are the most commonly broken rules. And design a way to handle it without beign too hard with players. Just be hard with the players who actually deserve it:
Trollers.
Scammers.
Spammers.
etc etc.
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Regarding the 2nd option, It's just too stupid how is it that admins close their SMS while they are L2 or 3.. I mean honestly without mentioning names, I have been apart of this server since a year and few months, I sometimes needed staff help, All what I see is that some SMSs are closed.. now you need to wait or just go to the staff member, Going to him could lead to a punishment, Which is stupid, Sometimes people deserve being punished while other times they don't depending on the situation.
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if we can't ask staffs to recover hijack or we can't talk with them about something/problem or anything else... then why staffs team made for ? they should do their job and if someone really annoyed/trolled them they can punish him .
i think you know what I mean .
You simply annoy staff by asking them to recover hijack because it gets recovered automatically, you can now talk to them via admin help room in J if you didn't notice, we do our jobs, but contacting a staff because his friend is annoying him for example rather than using /report is considered being annoying.
Rule #14 a lot of staffs punish you for no reason, even if u ask or warn someone...
admins should warn before punish you, if you didnt listen to them so they can punish you
You should have realized by now that support chat is a sensitive chat room, 85% of players ask there, some admins ask too if they need help, so any spam/random characters will cut of the connection between the one who asked and the one who answered/will answer, besides to write in support chat you need to write a command or J > support chat, so you really can't fail, why can't you just follow the rule ?
about Non English : what is the way it can Hurt or badly Effect the community ? I mean that Nothing Happen if he Talked with a Non English Words For one time , Some Times They Cannot Show what they Really means With English so he can Use Un English words for 1 time If he wanna explain NOT TO CHAT only if he wanna Explain ... hope you got me .
and Don't Misuse the support chat : why it would Hurt someone if you said " English Please " or " Dont Misuse " Actually He is Helping the Supporters and the Staff Team .. Thanks for reading
Please Mention my Name if you wanna say or edit something on my words so I can see it
- Do you really like when someone talks about you in a language you don't understand ? No, that's one of the reasons CIT "MAIN" chats should be English and I mean by "MAIN" is that you can talk Non-English in a lot of other places, such as localchat and chat-rooms of your language.. J >> Select your Language.
- It's Supporters and staff team's job to warn/take care of the support chat to prevent chaos, if everyone warned, then it will be a mess.
Maybe take away the part about 'or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted' ... people can take their own risks.
They do take their own risks, but when they do, we find the complaints board flooding with complaints of players who got scammed because they have done a transfer that isn't guaranteed.. Why take the risk ? Use F7.
Maybe the 5 second period at support misuse rule needs to be removed, but I find rules okay, although a lot was removed, edited. Now you find loads of cars in the middle of the road because rule #17 got removed, which means if the spamming rule gets removed, we fill find "GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG" every 1 second and no one would be able to play. Just sayin..
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I think the rules are ok, please do not take me wrong, but there are some admins who make people leave the server, for example if we ask something to a admin and he says "GO ASK THAT TO SOME ONE ELSE U NOOB" or something like that, people won't like it and might leave the server, admins should instruct the rules, but should also be friendly, so people really like to be on the server, see this example:
You go to a restaurant and u ask what this plate has on it, of course that if the waitress responds you nicely you will be happy, and if he responds to you with sarcasm or even with bad words, you probably wont go again to that restaurant.
I want to tell that this is just my opinion, and in the past, I have seen some staff members being rude to players, and that is one of the reasons on why people leave CIT.
Please take on this opinion gently, and I don't to cause any problem to any one, I am just giving my opinion has it has been asked.
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I think the rules are ok, please do not take me wrong, but there are some admins who make people leave the server, for example if we ask something to a admin and he says "GO ASK THAT TO SOME ONE ELSE U NOOB" or something like that, people won't like it and might leave the server, admins should instruct the rules, but should also be friendly, so people really like to be on the server, see this example:
You go to a restaurant and u ask what this plate has on it, of course that if the waitress responds you nicely you will be happy, and if he responds to you with sarcasm or even with bad words, you probably wont go again to that restaurant.
I want to tell that this is just my opinion, and in the past, I have seen some staff members being rude to players, and that is one of the reasons on why people leave CIT.
Please take on this opinion gently, and I don't to cause any problem to any one, I am just giving my opinion has it has been asked.
You can complain that staff for being rude, many staff got punished for that.
The only way we ask players to ask someone else because we don't have access to do what they asked us to do.
For ex. A player asked L1 staff to marry him, ofcourse you know that L1 can't so we tell them to ask L2+.
We want to help the players but maybe a staff is busy to do something with another player so he tells him to ask another staff. Sometimes a staff isn't sure of sonething so he tells him to ask another staff so he can help him.
he says "GO ASK THAT TO SOME ONE ELSE U NOOB"
That doesn't happen and if that happened the staff should be reported.
I hope you got my point.
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Sorry for grammer mistakes, using phone atm.
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You can complain that staff for being rude, many staff got punished for that.
The only way we ask players to ask someone else because we don't have access to do what they asked us to do.
For ex. A player asked L1 staff to marry him, ofcourse you know that L1 can't so we tell them to ask L2+.
We want to help the players but maybe a staff is bisy to do something with another player so he tells him to ask another staff. Sometimes a staff isn't sure of sonething so he tells him to ask another staff so he can help him.That doesn't happen and if that happened the staff should be reported.
I hope you got my point.
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Sorry for grammer mistakes, using phone atm.
As I said, I told it "in the past", I haven't seen it happening in the last times, and I think that players are currently happy with most of the staffs.
But I hope you get my point: First time some one logs in into CIT and he sees a staff being rude, do you think he will complaint or he will leave the servers? Just that point I wanted to show.
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Do not annoy staff members...
This was the only one I felt that needs changing. I know sometimes people can be annoying but, some staffs have 0 patience at all.
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This was the only one I felt that needs changing. I know sometimes people can be annoying but, some staffs have 0 patience at all.
A guy that is following you with his faggio and started to use the horn next to you alot and after slapping him he does that again, what would you do ?
A guy that smsed you saying " Come fassssst " then you stop what you were doing and when you warp to him he laughs, what would you do ?
I hope you know what I mean, also if it is unfair punishment, you can complain that staff.
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I wanted to say that in my opinion the rule #3 should be modified. Not removed.
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
This rule causes a lack of communication between the staff members and the players. I'm not saying that we should allow players to troll/annoy staff members by calling them everytime or "honking" if they found them on the middle of the road. But we could modify it so that the player that actually needs help staff member won't get punished. Maybe someone is hoking because he doesn't know what he should press to talk or he can't speak english. Another things is if someone sends an sms if it's possible for staff members to actually reply and not ignoring it (Also making the staff members have their sms open 24/7). But this doesn't mean that the players should spam or be extremly annoying. What im trying to say is that if it's possible to modify one only thing about this rule and that is the staff patience if it's the first time that one specific asks for help. But if the player gets annoying in an extreme way, then the actual rules should be applied.
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To be honest, no change necessary, however:
Agreeing with @Powder here. I mean, some of the admins seem to be under the impression that the more punishments that are being given out, the better ('Specially for the trials... More punishments = Pass trial). Check out the admin log whenever - It's actually pretty common to see a player punished twice because admins are almost "racing" to be the first to give out punishments.
Like seriously, any excuse seems to hold up these days with punishments, and a hell of a lot of punishments that I see appealed on the forum were quite harsh/unnecessary, but they were still denied.
Legit, I see people asking for help in main chat... And then they get muted. Punishing someone for asking for help about something they didn't know... Just, bullshit.
Another thing that links to above... The attitude of some admins.
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(http://puu.sh/c3F5i/87254418fc.jpg)
This dude asked for help in support chat, to no avail - Then this unnamed admin goes along and trolls... Might I mention this was a very highly ranked admin too... Like yeah there's a bunch of idiots that flame the server, I get that. But this guy was asking for help - He wasn't bitching for the sake of it.
It's not the rules that need to be changed... It's the mindset around the rules.
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I'm on my phone, so I'll have to get straight to the point.
The support chat rule...I mean, are you serious?
Why should there actually be a time limit on answering someone's question after it's already been answered UNLESS they're a complete idiot and repeat the first guy's exact words? What if I decide that I have a better answer to a question that's already "solved"? (and I quote the word solved because giving a bullshitted lazy answer just to get an admin's acknowledgement of your activity in hope to get recommended for staff is not solving a question)
So is support chat supposed to be some sort of race to see who can type the fastest, or are we supposed to actually give other players QUALITY assistance? Because if it's a race, I have the perfect name for a game like that. Let's call it: "First One to get Muted Loses Even Though His Answer was the Best out of All of Ours"
It's sad see folks getting muted because they were typing a longer, more helpful answer to a question from a player in need, while the lazy pricks who write short and unclear answers sit in their chair rubbing their pregnant-like bellies.
So who wants to play a good game of First Person to get Muted Loses?
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So is support chat supposed to be some sort of race to see who can type the fastest, or are we supposed to actually give other players QUALITY assistance? Because if it's a race, I have the perfect name for a game like that. Let's call it: "First One to get Muted Loses Even Though His Answer was the Best out of All of Ours"
I agree with you on that. I think a complete answer is better than a simple and fast answer. That usally happens between the IG Supporters and the wannabe supporters that are answering every question 24/7.
Another thing is that most of the people that acutally talk on the support chat always spam. Like you will always see people saying "Admin plz" or "Gif me moni please". That's where something should be changed. I ain't sure what exactly it should be done but a suggestion is to just warn them. Not muting them the second they talk or spam. This would apply on the IG Supporters, I think most of the people get muted by them due to "misue on the support chat" and I think that if the want to help they could just warn them and if they keep spamming, then they can mute them. I don't say this is not being done right now, but most of the times people get muted without a previous warning. And staff members are not the ones who muted them, IG supporters are.
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7. Do not request an unfair advantage from a member of staff. Do not request 'group job' from an official group.
People should try each official group job, but not unfairly for the group they can ask for the job but he cannot get access like a member in the same group
he can use skin and name color, I think its fair like this.
14. Do not misuse the CIT support chat. "Misuse" can mean the following: spamming, flooding, non-english, advertising, flaming, trolling, warning players (especially saying "English please"), repeating a question more than once although it was already answered, repeating an answer that has already been stated at least around 6 seconds ago, asking a not CIT server related question and anything else that is not "asking a CIT server related question" or "answering a question".
a lot of people getting punished for this rule, I think "misuse" of support chat should get removed the other stuff i'm ok with them.
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
I think this rule should be modified/deleted, Why? I think it´s unnecesary and just will create hate trought the staffs-regular ppl. Yea, maybe it can be annoying if someone hasn´t never seen an admin and is following you or asking question or something else, but punishing people for this? its kinda stupid in a game like that, you are admins and its supposed to be popular people, so dont punish a poor newbie player for this stupid thing, also I think admins are enoguh mature people to ignore players who are following them or doing animations like /piss near them Show content
its funny somethimes huh ;)
, so dont be mad! admins have a bad reputation because a lot of people thinks that "you cant do anything near them or you will be permanently banned or smth like that", cmon guys, its supposed that admins are friendly and hepful people, not someone who you should have fear of.
That´s what I think.
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I´ve mentioned this several times months ago. It is not the rules that need to be changed, it is the staff team behaviour. The way the rules are being enforced. They need to analyze the situations where they punish a lot more, and a lot better. They must warn people, asking before rushing to the punish button. They have to treat the players a lot better, as people that needs help, and that do not have the experience that the staff team has with the server, instead of treating them like stupid noobs that are only trying to troll or annoy them. Sometimes the answers that to the old players and to the staff team seem obvious and stupid, for a new player, are not that easy.
Try having a more comprehensive staff, a more human staff, and a lot more players will be happy.
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6. Do not spam...
I think we shouldn't get muted if we spammed a bit in localchat when there is less than 3 players next to you watching, Example for the spam:
By DarkRise (http://cit2.net/index.php?topic=148084.0)
"COOOOOOOOPs"
Otherwise depends if it was really spammy the guy must get muted, Not big deal imo if the player got annoyed from others spamming a bit next to him he can simply leave the area if he spammed hard then he can use /report. No need to harsh in the rule.
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I'm on my phone, so I'll have to get straight to the point.
The support chat rule...I mean, are you serious?
Why should there actually be a time limit on answering someone's question after it's already been answered UNLESS they're a complete idiot and repeat the first guy's exact words? What if I decide that I have a better answer to a question that's already "solved"? (and I quote the word solved because giving a bullshitted lazy answer just to get an admin's acknowledgement of your activity in hope to get recommended for staff is not solving a question)
So is support chat supposed to be some sort of race to see who can type the fastest, or are we supposed to actually give other players QUALITY assistance? Because if it's a race, I have the perfect name for a game like that. Let's call it: "First One to get Muted Loses Even Though His Answer was the Best out of All of Ours"
It's sad see folks getting muted because they were typing a longer, more helpful answer to a question from a player in need, while the lazy pricks who write short and unclear answers sit in their chair rubbing their pregnant-like bellies.
So who wants to play a good game of First Person to get Muted Loses?
You misunderstood the part where you could actually see some people really trying to help. It's supporters choice to decide who is actually misusing in the support chat based on what is mentioned in the rule.
I agree about the that 'first person to answer' stuff.. it used to happen before more than it is now. After understanding players who give answers on support more, I've learnt that they observe and then try to improve themselves. The rule itself is not much of a problem.. But the mindset of the players is. Some are eagerly trying to help, some want to become a supporter.
As a supporter, you need to understand who is misusing support chat and in what way, considering the rule #14. That's techniically why we have a "support"chat and why there is a "support"ers team. Support is where players are to be first directed for help and then they expect us to give a full, satisfying answer, even I believe in giving a full and satisfying answer.
Incase you think there needs an improvement in any of the supporter's duty, you can personally ask and solve it out with them. I don't think so anyone of us (sup's) are not willing to listen to any player, be it a negative opinion or just a doubt clearance.
Each player answers on their own, with their own knowledge about the particular question which is asked. We can't force them to give a big answer. We can only encourage them regarding this. One thing I can assure you, I believe they can't achieve supporter status with answers with no effort.
I'm on my phone, so I'll have to get straight to the point.
The support chat rule...I mean, are you serious?
Why should there actually be a time limit on answering someone's question after it's already been answered UNLESS they're a complete idiot and repeat the first guy's exact words? What if I decide that I have a better answer to a question that's already "solved"?
SMS the person? I understand that support chat is meant for help, but if a person really wants to help someone, I firmly believe that he/she is going to SMS that guy and atleast make him satisfied with your help, instead of typing and ending an answer in between of 4-5 question and answers.
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The Support chat rule about warning players,
This rule just gets on my nerves I mean players are already nice enough to help players in the support chat.
but when someone talks non-english or spam then a player says "english or dont spam", they get punished.
like wth, all I see is are admins or supporters (not gonna point out names) punish them when they aren't even helping in the support chat. They just wait for players to get punished when they don't even bother helping in the chat.
It's just players trying to help by warning players! It doesn't ruin anyones gameplay!
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About the support channel rule
Most of people are not only helping but they are farming lines.
So if we removed the rule, everybody would spam it by warning players.
Think about what may happen before saying that it should be removed or something.
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Admins should be more friendly, they have to learn to respect players, they have to be nice to players if they want players to stayon the server.Admins should understand that they are nothing just part of virtuality, so they are in totaly same level with rest of players.
P.S: Admin who warned me for saying "Kick xb0x and Cherry for their arogant acting" is teletubies, because I told my opinion because admins cant deal with truth they are warning other players.That is the reason server lost over 500 regular.Sick of admins "maturity".
I will tell you from my perspective , I enter server, have fun , admin came and start smarting about some rule like he is Einstein, I told my opinion about his smarting and He finds out that im right, he warns me.Everyone can tell that this is the truth.
Warn me again if you want I really dont feel guilt for internet forum and telling a fucking reallity.And I'm giving advice only because I spent big part of life with this server, so Im not doing anything against it.
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Well, in my point of view, all the rules are good but there are some parts in some rules that should be removed.
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
imo, as a staff member you must be friendly with players, that should be your main job/duty, be gratful that people are following or talking to you. I know it may get annoying at some point but you should deal with it. I feel bad whenever I see a player get punished for obstructing staff and I'm pretty sure that poor player didn't do anything but an animation near the staff.
If a player did /piss on you, why don't you just do it back and make that player sure that the staff team are not harmful.
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6. Do not spam, complain about lag, post quick stats, or advertise outside of F10 (Car shows and events do not count). - Press J if you need to contact an admin. All admins start with [CIT]. Do not misuse the chats that are there for a purpose and not for chatting randomly in. Do not go on about somebody getting punished.
I don't understand how posting quick stats is even spammy, I don't have a lot to talk about it, all I know that it adds more limits to the players that is abviously not needed.
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7. Do not request an unfair advantage from a member of staff. Do not request 'group job' from an official group.
About money, you're not allowed to request money from an on duty staff member. For me, if I was a new player, the first person I would head to asking for money is staff member, staff members should help you, not by giving you money of course but by teaching you how to work and teach you how to work instead of jailing you.
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9. Don't use a
stupid, spammy or unacceptable name. For example the name 11111111 is
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, use something that's actually a word!
Removing these words will make the server look more professional, and they're not needed because it's the same if the player didn't understand the rule, these words won't help him understand the rule.
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18. If you have access to deploy a barrier, they must not be placed some where that will block players, this especially applies to tents which must only be placed in an open area. Barriers are intended to provided cover, not block players.
About this I have a little suggestion, just to improve the rule, I wanna suggest adding a line when add/remove a barrier so it gets saved in your logs, in case you deployed a barrier by mistake in the road and removed it after few seconds, you don't get a punishment for a mistake that you never did on propuse.
Overall the staff member should help you, not scare you, when someone see a staff member on the minimap they should not take a completely different road to avoid him. As a staff member if someone came to you screaming for help(with broken English, with caps or whatever), tell him to get help by pressing J, or tell one of your friends from the same country to teach him if you don't speak the language.
I still remember when Flucado warped to me, went invisble, saw how I got scammed for 200k and even refunded me from his OWN money, I still respect him to this day for that, players don't forget good things that the staff members do to them, same for Rusty, he helped me using forum PMs with IRC stuff that I don't remember specificly what it was, but I remember him being patient with me long time ago when I was a noob, and I can get you a quote like 2 weeks ago when I was saying to my friend (Wait for Rusty to get online then I'll talk with him for you, I'm sure he'll help you).
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I would like to talk about Rule #9 (do not use unacceptable name)
There should be some changes
Some people who just join the server without even reading server rules and give their nick like "555555" or "Hitler" (something like these).
As I said the player is a newbie who did not read the rules, and after someone report him or staff just see him so they just jail them which is very bad for our newbies, and for thay they just start flaming and abusing in chat and staff just BAN them and they leave the server, which is ver bad for server.
Solution.
If a player (newbie) or (any) gave their name which is unacceptable so staff should warn them with respect OR change their name and tell them that its against the Rule #9 so please do not use unacceptable name because your name was unacceptable thats why I changed it. It can avoid our newbies from leaving CIT.
Thank You.
Regards
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well and I want to say something about local chat and waiting 2 seconds its boring as if I am writing fast I must write again or I am completing sentence I don't know if that can be removed any way if somebody spammed there is /report spamming
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Rules are simply ''perfect'' .it's the staff's behaviour that needs to be changed.They simply jail/mute anyone without a single warn ,nothing at all ,all they want is more punishments lines for them (Not all the staffs ofc) .Also some of the staff members are simply ''too rude'' .Since when a staff can troll new players ,since when a staff can curse players ,since when a staff ignore u when u need help .Staff members needs to chill a bit and stop racing to punish people and they really need to change the way they treat players ,cause some of the staff's attitude are just making people leave the server.Who would like to play in a server where the staffs troll/ignore you and in some cases even provoke you?,that's simply messed up .Seems like the new way isnt working ,so why wouldnt we go back to the old way ,where staff actually ''Warned ''people ,they even asked them why they broke that rule .That would make some changes for sure .
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I´ve mentioned this several times months ago. It is not the rules that need to be changed, it is the staff team behaviour. The way the rules are being enforced. They need to analyze the situations where they punish a lot more, and a lot better. They must warn people, asking before rushing to the punish button. They have to treat the players a lot better, as people that needs help, and that do not have the experience that the staff team has with the server, instead of treating them like stupid noobs that are only trying to troll or annoy them. Sometimes the answers that to the old players and to the staff team seem obvious and stupid, for a new player, are not that easy.
Try having a more comprehensive staff, a more human staff, and a lot more players will be happy.
YES.
Like come on, all nowadays staffs are hungry for lines to get promoted or w/e. Old players and mature ones get punished for stupid reasons and trust me, if that had happened to you, you'd feel the disrespected and so damn mad and that's when you think of leaving the server and maybe get yourself banned eventually. We login daily to have a laugh and some fun not to get bullied with punishments and arrogant staffs. Surely, players who works on annoying our game-play must be punished severely and maybe banned permanently because nobody would love to annoy other players except if he's immature / retarded and we don't need both kind of players in the server. Rules are pretty well-written and following them isn't hard that's why I think it must be kept as it is but staffs should change their behavior and remember they aren't above everyone just because of their power.
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People should try each official group job, but not unfairly for the group they can ask for the job but he cannot get access like a member in the same group
he can use skin and name color, I think its fair like this.
a lot of people getting punished for this rule, I think "misuse" of support chat should get removed the other stuff i'm ok with them.
The rule was added because the group leader themselves got annoyed of your questions, they decide about their job, not you.
I wanted to say that in my opinion the rule #3 should be modified. Not removed.
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
This rule causes a lack of communication between the staff members and the players. I'm not saying that we should allow players to troll/annoy staff members by calling them everytime or "honking" if they found them on the middle of the road. But we could modify it so that the player that actually needs help staff member won't get punished. Maybe someone is hoking because he doesn't know what he should press to talk or he can't speak english. Another things is if someone sends an sms if it's possible for staff members to actually reply and not ignoring it (Also making the staff members have their sms open 24/7). But this doesn't mean that the players should spam or be extremly annoying. What im trying to say is that if it's possible to modify one only thing about this rule and that is the staff patience if it's the first time that one specific asks for help. But if the player gets annoying in an extreme way, then the actual rules should be applied.
It doesn't cause any lack of communication, many players want to talk to staff just to asslick them nothing more, you got support chat, Admin support chat, some people ask in mainchat, and most staff has their sms open, what communication are you talking about ? Any question can be answered in support chat, any other stuff about ban appeals etc we are not supposed to answer it, everything has it's place, you can't expect us to make a move when you sms me saying "HEY I GOT SCAMMED HELP" you will just have to open a complaint in the board.. "Making the staff members open their sms 24/7" It's not your decision to make... Although 75% already open it, including me, but still you shouldn't say what you said.
To be honest, no change necessary, however:
Agreeing with @Powder here. I mean, some of the admins seem to be under the impression that the more punishments that are being given out, the better ('Specially for the trials... More punishments = Pass trial). Check out the admin log whenever - It's actually pretty common to see a player punished twice because admins are almost "racing" to be the first to give out punishments.
Like seriously, any excuse seems to hold up these days with punishments, and a hell of a lot of punishments that I see appealed on the forum were quite harsh/unnecessary, but they were still denied.
Legit, I see people asking for help in main chat... And then they get muted. Punishing someone for asking for help about something they didn't know... Just, bullshit.
Another thing that links to above... The attitude of some admins.
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(http://puu.sh/c3F5i/87254418fc.jpg)
This dude asked for help in support chat, to no avail - Then this unnamed admin goes along and trolls... Might I mention this was a very highly ranked admin too... Like yeah there's a bunch of idiots that flame the server, I get that. But this guy was asking for help - He wasn't bitching for the sake of it.
It's not the rules that need to be changed... It's the mindset around the rules.
About that picture, actually there are supporters, that's their job, if you think no one is helping, why didn't you step in and help ? You know you are allowed to help, right ?..
Maybe staffs should be less strict, but believe me we are under a lot of pressure and you don't want to see us when we get torn up. If you haven't tried being a staff, then you don't know what "trolling" is..
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Rule 2 and 3 are similiar to each others. Would be better to merge them in 1 rule
Rule 5 needs some updates. Let players know what will happen with them if they evade ingame situation. Like "5. Do not purposefully evade ingame situations or admins by disconnecting. This will lead to get extra punishment (1 punishment for breaking actually rule and 1 more punishment for evading in game situation)"
Rule 6 also needs some updates. Like remove sentence "All admins start with [CIT]" because rule 2 already has this information. Also, add "Do not spam or flood" because you will get mute if you flood something on main chat.
Add "Selling group or squad is not allowed" to rule 11
And rule 10. If it is possible add sentence that "You can celebrate your religion holidays and wish good holidays in main chat". Like Happy Eid!
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9. Don't use a stupid, spammy or unacceptable name. For example the name 11111111 is stupid, use something that's actually a word!
This in itself is very broad and I see people with stupid and over exeggerated usernames on the daily. It's a given I say this ,naming yourself after a celebrity or something should be against the rules too. Then there's people who have non english names as well.
The annoying admins rule is as flexible as an elite gymnast too. Admins annoy players daily as well. We know when it's all in good fun and when it's just plain abuse.
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Uh, well. Stupid me. I voted for wrong rules *and can't change it.* :|
- I think you should merge all rules related to staff to just one rule. #2, #3, #7.
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stupid, spammy or unacceptable name.. Not sure what "stupid" name is.. and "unacceptable" is imprecise, it depends on who sees it and the situation. You can't use something ambiguous as a fixed rule. i.e. The "N" word. Used commonly by African-American people to call each other but somehow count racist when caucasian (And other races) say it.. I've seen people got jailed when naming themselves containing the "N" word. Once I even seen someone got jailed by naming himself "Jesus". I mean, seriously.. We know he's not a real Jesus. - Remove #18. Because that's basically griefing, which is already on #8.
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
I don't understand how some of the staff members can get annoyed by everything players do. For example (just an example) if a player (let's say a new player) reports someone for "DM" in LV isn't it easier for them to simply delete the report and tell that player that he/she shouldn't do that because it doesn't make sense? Or it's better to jail that player to get an extra line added to their admin log?
Staff members should be frienly to every player ingame, not just their friends and not so rude. Also, wouldn't it be nicer and better to warn players at least once before punishing them? If that player is known rule-breaker then a punishment without warning should definietly be given. If they don't want to warn these older players, why not the new ones then?
I don't want to be rude, but staff members should really be friendly, not so rude, they should be members with better behaviour and they shouldn't rush with punishing players just to get an extra line. Then players would be much happier and who wouldn't play here?
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11. Selling accounts, arrests, or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted...
Alot of members want to selling accounts.
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Admins should be more friendly, they have to learn to respect players, they have to be nice to players if they want players to stayon the server.Admins should understand that they are nothing just part of virtuality, so they are in totaly same level with rest of players.
P.S: Admin who warned me for saying "Kick xb0x and Cherry for their arogant acting" is teletubies, because I told my opinion because admins cant deal with truth they are warning other players.That is the reason server lost over 500 regular.Sick of admins "maturity".
I will tell you from my perspective , I enter server, have fun , admin came and start smarting about some rule like he is Einstein, I told my opinion about his smarting and He finds out that im right, he warns me.Everyone can tell that this is the truth.
Warn me again if you want I really dont feel guilt for internet forum and telling a fucking reallity.And I'm giving advice only because I spent big part of life with this server, so Im not doing anything against it.
Instead of talking like a civilized person, you come here and threaten staff members. How do you expect them to not be arrogant when they have to deal with pricks threatening them? I saw quite enough of your acting and surely you're not in the position to bitch at Cherry and xb0x for "acting arrogant" while you're the first starting useless drama because you have dark green dots under your name..
PS: Teletubbie who warned you is Arran.
11. Selling accounts, arrests, or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted...
Alot of members want to selling accounts.
A lot of members want to scam.
I don't understand how some of the staff members can get annoyed by everything players do. For example (just an example) if a player (let's say a new player) reports someone for "DM" in LV isn't it easier for them to simply delete the report and tell that player that he/she shouldn't do that because it doesn't make sense? Or it's better to jail that player to get an extra line added to their admin log?
About DM thing, I usually delete that stuff as 1 report doesn't actually bother me. For some staff it's better to get a new line than clicking on delete button.
Staff members should be frienly to every player ingame, not just their friends and not so rude. Also, wouldn't it be nicer and better to warn players at least once before punishing them? If that player is known rule-breaker then a punishment without warning should definietly be given. If they don't want to warn these older players, why not the new ones then?
Be friendly: Yes we can, too bad that 800 players out of 900 mistake that "friendly" with "oh come here I'll misuse my power to treat you better than other 899 players". So yea, excuse us but some players don't understand that having to deal with them 24/7 causes too much stress for a thing on which you spend your free time. At this point you can say: but why are you staff if you can't cope with that?. Well yea, some joined staff team to help, but players are never happy about anything and keep asking. I literally experienced players following me through all the map. I warped to Admin Island and they could manage to get there anyway. That's the amount of ridicolousness of some players.
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I don't understand how some of the staff members can get annoyed by everything players do. For example (just an example) if a player (let's say a new player) reports someone for "DM" in LV isn't it easier for them to simply delete the report and tell that player that he/she shouldn't do that because it doesn't make sense? Or it's better to jail that player to get an extra line added to their admin log?
Staff members should be frienly to every player ingame, not just their friends and not so rude. Also, wouldn't it be nicer and better to warn players at least once before punishing them? If that player is known rule-breaker then a punishment without warning should definietly be given. If they don't want to warn these older players, why not the new ones then?
I don't want to be rude, but staff members should really be friendly, not so rude, they should be members with better behaviour and they shouldn't rush with punishing players just to get an extra line. Then players would be much happier and who wouldn't play here?
And that's what happenes, we jail them for reporting the same report that doesn't prove anything more than once ( like reporting it more than 4 times after being deleted.)
Saying that DM in LV shouldn't be reported doesn't mean the staff jails for that if they didn't report that more than once after being deleted.
Also you are saying that staff members shouldn't be rude to the players, if you know a staff is rude, why don't complain him ? We get punished for that.
You are just saying that some staff are rude toward the players but if you really know who is doing that, why haven't you reported them ? You are just saying that we don't have good behavior but you also know that you can complain a staff member for his behavior.
2. Staff members will not behave immorally
What you are saying has nothing to do with rule #3 in my opinion.
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I remember that i'v asked Cherry once to tell me why did she jailed my teammate so I can take action as i'm a leader . Then , guess what , she muted me for annoying . I'v see that some high staffs abuse their power and when they got reported , they give some excuses and lock the the complaint topic . That's should be changed here .
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I remember that i'v asked Cherry once to tell me why did she jailed my teammate so I can take action as i'm a leader . Then , guess what , she muted me for annoying . I'v see that some high staffs abuse their power and when they got reported , they give some excuses and lock the the complaint topic . That's should be changed here .
You shouldn't come here telling us what to change while you:
1. Admitted ban evasion in order to complain a staff
2. Evade a ban again to come and bitch at staff
Then players wonder why they get punished by staff...
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11. Selling accounts, arrests, or anything else that isn't a guaranteed transfer is not permitted...
Alot of members want to selling accounts.
So that then noobs start off with these ridiculously high stats compared to what others have worked so long for to achieve? You're kidding me.
(I'd definititely like to sell steam/origin games tho)
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I´ve mentioned this several times months ago. It is not the rules that need to be changed, it is the staff team behaviour. The way the rules are being enforced. They need to analyze the situations where they punish a lot more, and a lot better. They must warn people, asking before rushing to the punish button. They have to treat the players a lot better, as people that needs help, and that do not have the experience that the staff team has with the server, instead of treating them like stupid noobs that are only trying to troll or annoy them. Sometimes the answers that to the old players and to the staff team seem obvious and stupid, for a new player, are not that easy.
Try having a more comprehensive staff, a more human staff, and a lot more players will be happy.
I totally agree with that.
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So that then noobs start off with these ridiculously high stats compared to what others have worked so long for to achieve? You're kidding me.
(I'd definititely like to sell steam/origin games tho)
really think it would really be nice,yeah it's just a game.It doesn't really make effects if it was allowed,game will be better
@xb0x
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90% of people who post in this topic just want to get show and excuses for their punishments, 8% are the staffs explaining why such things happens, and only 2% are really giving their opinion.
I really think it would really be nice,yeah it's just a game so Really make effects
Noty! If you want good stats work for them
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6. Do not spam, complain about lag, post quick stats, or advertise outside of F10
i dont like this rules advertising out side f10 will get punishment :P now adays 2 less peoples uses f10
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i dont like this rules advertising out side f10 will get punishment :P now adays 2 less peoples uses f10
At least make a constructing comment about it ? 2 less people use F10 ? You mean too less people follow the rules.. You guys just want it without rules, and you think it would be okay.. You haven't seen anything yet.
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i dont like this rules advertising out side f10 will get punishment :P now adays 2 less peoples uses f10
It can be solved by suggesting a better way to use F10, Maybe changing it to a chat that anyone can enable it to see it in his chat.
But how is that related to the rule ?
i dont like this rules advertising out side f10 will get punishment
That doesn't make sense, you wanna change/remove it because you don't like it ?
really, I don't wanna see people spamming the whole chats about the things they wanna trade.
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
People gets punished for sms'ing a staff member, even though, staff members are supposed to help people. Also, standing near a staff member does worth a punishment today. This rule should be modified as it's too harsh.
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People gets punished for sms'ing a staff member, even though, staff members are supposed to help people. Also, standing near a staff member does worth a punishment today. This rule should be modified as it's too harsh.
You only get punished for smsing a staff member when you spam/annoy the guy with irrelevant stuff, questions/problems that can be solved by reading F1 or even asking at support chat, easy as 1 2 3.. As for the standing thingy, yes it's strict, but you haven't seen when you are asking a player some questions and 500 other players come around you speaking at the same time "Hi Deadly, give me money" "Please, marry me" "Nice skin brah, come marry me" "Money please"... C'mon man, it's called logic D:
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People gets punished for sms'ing a staff member, even though, staff members are supposed to help people. Also, standing near a staff member does worth a punishment today. This rule should be modified as it's too harsh.
1. Why would people get punished for smsing a staff unless they are like '' HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY, BRO '' or '' I Wanna some cookies pls. '' '' How to fuck/rape my wife ? '', you know what I mean.
2. We work hard to help people though if 10% really wanna help, 90% of the players find it funny to troll.
3. standing near a staff, it's ok, none punish for that but it's not like standing near us and using /piss or /wanking and taking SS. they think it's funny to do that to us. We don't punish for things like that (a slap is better), but you know some people don't stop and come again to do that again( in that case we punish them ).
4. you can use '' Contact admin '' channel in the J, and you can easily find help there.
5. we jail people for standing near you when we actually trying to help people and they start to troll around you.
how is that unfair ?
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People gets punished for sms'ing a staff member, even though, staff members are supposed to help people. Also, standing near a staff member does worth a punishment today. This rule should be modified as it's too harsh.
If u sms a staff member for good reason he wont punish you, if you spam a staff sms, then you deserv to be punished.
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First of all, I am not here to complain or argue. I think none of the rules need to be changed. What needs to be changed is how admins react to them. I've seen people with less than 20 hours speak non English in the main chat because they might not have read the rules and then an admin comes and punishes the person. Some of them don't even warn those players, they just punish them. Same does with unacceptable names. Most people don't even know what unacceptable names are as it is not specified anywhere what non acceptable names are (I know it says "use your brains" somewhere). So the only thing I got to say is that admins should try and warn the player before they punish them (Unless they do it on purpose). Thank you for reading.
Also, if you see here (http://cit2.net/index.php?topic=148203.msg1993352#msg1993352), you can see that he is a new guy (Registered at 8/10/2014) and he didn't know where to post. And just after he made his first post, he was muted. Is asking why he was banned in the wrong board worth a mute? (80%)
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If u sms a staff member for good reason he wont punish you, if you spam a staff sms, then you deserv to be punished.
Thanks for such effort and information, I didn't know that.
You only get punished for smsing a staff member when you spam/annoy the guy with irrelevant stuff, questions/problems that can be solved by reading F1 or even asking at support chat, easy as 1 2 3.. As for the standing thingy, yes it's strict, but you haven't seen when you are asking a player some questions and 500 other players come around you speaking at the same time "Hi Deadly, give me money" "Please, marry me" "Nice skin brah, come marry me" "Money please"... C'mon man, it's called logic D:
Yes, the rules says DO NOT STAND NEAR THEM. It could be 'Do not troll them' if you feel offended by those trollers, yeh and I know it annoys you.
Sick, I didn't say it's unfair but I suggested to modify it. Calm.
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I will be focusing mostly on "LV Rules",
Add #8 - You cannot turf from inaccessible roofs.
Add #5 - You cannot evade ingame situations by running to a base or a protected area. (Except Hospitals area)
Add #8 - Do not troll, by trolling I mean these kind of people who comes with a vehicle to a turf to provoke it and than run away to another turf, it's really annoying.
Modify #6 - "Don't post quick stats" Remove that line as it is useless, quick stats are copied sentences from a command, Example: /qs turfs, I will get the amount of my total turfs taken and I will post it in main or team chat "*My total turfs taken: 5" to show off, but I will get muted for doing so, (Tbh I never saw someone getting muted for doing that) but if I will do /stats and check how many turfs taken I have and write it on main or team chat like " I have 5 turfs taken" I won't get muted, so it is the same sentence but written in a different way. So simply this line is useless.
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Also, if you see here (http://cit2.net/index.php?topic=148203.msg1993352#msg1993352), you can see that he is a new guy (Registered at 8/10/2014) and he didn't know where to post. And just after he made his first post, he was muted. Is asking why he was banned in the wrong board worth a mute? (80%)
Looking at the warning log, looks like he PM'ed Arran multiple times
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Hello guys I Suggest to add at rule 4 that some people can't kill hits if they drove them, I mean some people hit with their friends car and these friends are driving the car and sometimes we lose alot of time by following the hit because we want the money sometimes these people who are driving kill the hit and I think its trolling.
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Well, I suggest a small addition to the following rule:
13. Speak English only in main and team chat.
It should be, in my opinion, like this:
13. Speak English only in main and team chat. Staff personal must warn at least once before taking actions
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I´ve mentioned this several times months ago. It is not the rules that need to be changed, it is the staff team behaviour. The way the rules are being enforced. They need to analyze the situations where they punish a lot more, and a lot better. They must warn people, asking before rushing to the punish button. They have to treat the players a lot better, as people that needs help, and that do not have the experience that the staff team has with the server, instead of treating them like stupid noobs that are only trying to troll or annoy them. Sometimes the answers that to the old players and to the staff team seem obvious and stupid, for a new player, are not that easy.
Try having a more comprehensive staff, a more human staff, and a lot more players will be happy.
I know that, but it's easier to change the rules so we're doing that first.
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There is a lot of important rules and we should keep it for ex non english in main chat and team chat is very important cause if we will remove it it will be a crazy server and everybody will talk at the same tme and no one will understand anything for ex a player flaming other player with italian english will the staff understand it ?
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The Rules 3 and 14 :
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3. Do not annoy staff members, do not stand near them and do not honk at them. Do not send blatantly invalid reports like "DM" in LV or at a criminal event. If you do this by accident you can delete the report, else face punishment. Do not ask for the hijack to be recovered.
14. Do not misuse the CIT support chat. "Misuse" can mean the following: spamming, flooding, non-english, advertising, flaming, trolling, warning players (especially saying "English please"), repeating a question more than once although it was already answered, repeating an answer that has already been stated at least around 6 seconds ago, asking a not CIT server related question and anything else that is not "asking a CIT server related question" or "answering a question".
About rule 3 some people for example go near staffs and get punished for annoying staffs and they didnt do any thing let us give an example people can go near a staff and they stop for some time for a probleme or some thing and get punished for nothing ._. so I think staffs could try to ignore people who stands near them as they are doing nothing some times and they have to punish people who do any animation that realy annoys a staff .
about rule 14 some people try to answer a question in support but answers late they get muted thats alright but some people answers late cuz of some sort of lag and they get punished and they feel so bad and they wont use support chat as it happened to me and giving example again 1 day I heard that if I help people a lot in support chat and on forums I will get to be a supporter I was happy trying to then on the first answer it was fine and in the seconds on I got muted ._. and then the mute expired and I answered again and got muted ._. and after it I got muted again ALL OF THEM CUZ I MAKE A FALT LIKE THIS I write 'gp' in the place of 'go' for example and thnx for listening to me and hearing my point of vue .
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Do y'all really need to quote the rule if you're not suggesting a re-write
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Rule 3 and rule 5.
So the rule 3 says do not annoy staff member.
If they are standing somewhere and wearning CIT,It's normally that players will go to them and keep asking questions so they should teleport somewhere where is no players or help locally to players that are asking a questions instead of putting them in jail.Or if they decide to play 2 - 3 hours as normally players,without staff adventages ,they can simply remove CIT tag and put tag of their group like I saw Hidde did.
Rule 5 :
Sometimes some players don't have time to speak with staffs so they need to disconnect,or some of players have internet problems.
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I will be focusing mostly on "LV Rules",
Add #8 - You cannot turf from inaccessible roofs.
Add #5 - You cannot evade ingame situations by running to a base or a protected area. (Except Hospitals area)
Add #8 - Do not troll, by trolling I mean these kind of people who comes with a vehicle to a turf to provoke it and than run away to another turf, it's really annoying.
#8 That's stupid as it's using tactics and you can easily kill someone on a roof
#5 In game situations like what? Admins will tele to you in your base if you try and evade as well
#2nd8 What if someone is solo turfing and then 20 cracks cone out of nowhere? Then he'd be 'trolling' lol what joke
I have to say I have to agree with what people are saying. The rules themselves are fine tuneable or mergeable. The main thing is the attitude staffs have towards people. There are level 1s who punish left and right and are total hard asses purely and simply because they want L2 and beyond. Then they ass lick higher level staffs as well. Personally I find the higher level staffs more level headed and apply common sense and are reasonable on a case by case basis.
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4. Do not camp in a CITy zone while you're wanted in order to avoid being arrested unless your zone is fully accessible.
I think that it should be allowed to make difficult zones for cops to die in as they try to get you. This only makes it more and it's almost like creating your own criminal events if used together with other criminals.
6. (if this is the rule about the website shoutbox)
I think it's extremely annoying that I can't complain and cry in the shoutbox during server downtime. I don't have anything else to do and it's funny to read what people are saying when the server is down. But every time we get a fun conversation going there is an annoying admin who has to censor everything and delete all the posts. Its annoying and the admin is clearly bored since there is no harm in a bit of complaining and crying about server downtime. It just helps to lift the lid of frustration with server being down and its good to let off steam.
We disalowed asking for the hijack to be recovered because it respawns itself so it's just impatient people being annoying.
I once hijacked a lot and the hijack doesn't respawn fast enough. You can call it being impatient, but the hijack doesn't pay that well so pro hijackers who try to make money care a lot about time.
The only problem with allowing this is that people might drive it into water as a revenge for trolling. But most wouldn't do that because their greed outweighs their desire to troll. And they will be greedy as long as they are driving the hijack. Anyway, it might still happen that other people push the car into the water, but still. I think you should allow asking for hijack recovery, but not always grant the request if it's happening constantly. However, 20 hijack recoveries in a day should be manageable for the staff team and I think players would be very happy.
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I think that it should be allowed to make difficult zones for cops to die in as they try to get you. This only makes it more and it's almost like creating your own criminal events if used together with other criminals.
Yh, make something that cops can barrely enter so you can spam your miniguns into us.
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People gets punished for sms'ing a staff member, even though, staff members are supposed to help people. Also, standing near a staff member does worth a punishment today. This rule should be modified as it's too harsh.
What's the point of standing near a staff anyway? Please do tell me. All you do (you intended as plural) come there while we are probably doing something and start spamming "Hi Brian" then if there's no answer again "hi" then maybe spawn a vehicle and start using your horn to get more attention. At that point if you didn't get jailed yet, you start again "Hi Brian" "may I ask?" and start spamming our local chat, like if we don't have enough stuff to keep looked in chatbox. Arran added a new chat to request help to staff. There's /support and also forum support section. Why would you still have to come to us while you can ask in one of those channels?
This is not an exaggeration, it really happens. When we ignore players to avoid punishing them, they keep going and going and going instead of just leaving. Till we open panel and jail them for being brainless annoyers. @Merridew
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Ye I've just understood you, there's no point in neither standing near a staff nor honking at them. However, you do still have the rule which says do not annoy staff members, it includes those annoyers thus there's multiple rules that's the point. After your explanations I wouldn't mind them though.
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Brian not everyone on this server are mature enough to understand this, the just want to have a admin as friend, u still could warp away or slap him or anything. A ban or jail is to much
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I think that it should be allowed to make difficult zones for cops to die in as they try to get you. This only makes it more and it's almost like creating your own criminal events if used together with other criminals.
@ZtyX
Are you being sarcastic or you're serious? That's complete madness if you ask me because yeah you're trying to victimize law units without even being able to fight back because of criminals spamming MGs towards the narrow opening. It's just farming lifetime wanted points, nobody that has a brain would make that unbalanced CnR situation. If you do this, you're abusing CITy features and you deserve to be banned / jailed for exploiting. The rule must stay in my opinion.
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Brian not everyone on this server are mature enough to understand this, the just want to have a admin as friend, u still could warp away or slap him or anything. A ban or jail is to much
What if I have to do a thing IN THAT PLACE? I have to warp away because they think that slaps are a joke? I don't think so. It's clearly written in rules and the friends excuse is lame since I explained in my other reply that 99% of times players befriend staff only to try to get advantages.
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The most important shit, in my opinion, is the way that staff think that they are VIP (the actual meaning of the acronym V-I-P).
Staff Team is there to help, yeah they may be busy but.. come on, what the actual fuck? The only ones who I bet that may be actually busy are L5 and not all for sure, Arran, Cheeze and Brian have hard duties which kinda forces them to be working every minute that they're online. Cherry has no duty yet (I'm not saying that she doesn't do anything, don't get me wrong.. if she's L5, she made something to deserve it and she deserves L5 in my opnion but she has no duty, that's why I'm saying this) so, she is the L5 that people should sms firstly if they need help from a L5 staff... in my opinion.
What I'm saying is that staff are players as well. Even if they may be doing something, that 'something' won't last forever. I've seen people afraid of smsing a staff (not talking about L5) and starting by "Hey, sorry for disturbing you, are you busy?" Something like that.. wtf? People should not be that afraid of the staff team.
If someone is afraid of the staff team, then something is surely wrong.
That's my opinion.
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There are 4 levels of staff before L5, why people have to SMS Cherry when there are other 30 staff members? She's more busy than me doing every kind of stuff that needs to be done, without asking for duties. @Luther
Being without duty doesn't mean she HAS TO answer and get spammed by people requesting every single little thing. Once again, there are other 30 staff members and most of things asked to L5 are either "requesting unfair advantages" or are things that can be done by lower staff levels.
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Brian that happens to me I asked a lot of staffs and seriously most of them ignored me that's why players get bored from them and they go talk to cherry or other L5 staffs
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Look at this, last night a player that was probably his first time in the server, asked "alguien aqui es espanol?", and even before some one could tell him anything, like use /es to talk spanish or something like that, he got instantly muted, he could have just being a new guy asking for help, that will for sure not log in again because he cant even ask for some one who talks the same language as he does.
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The most important shit, in my opinion, is the way that staff think that they are VIP (the actual meaning of the acronym V-I-P).
I think they have to be "VIP". Well, yet they are. And that's probably why players wanna be a staff in the first place. There's nobody in this world doing something for complimentary. If they do their duty properly, they deserve to be VIP in this community so that they know they earned it. But being VIP doesn't mean it has to affect their work ethic, that's what they have to understand.
I've seen people afraid of smsing a staff (not talking about L5) and starting by "Hey, sorry for disturbing you, are you busy?" Something like that.. wtf? People should not be that afraid of the staff team.
I don't see that as they're afraid. I see that more like an attempt to just be polite. Like you know that they might be busy so they start it with such small talk instead like "Hey staff, come to me. I have a problem. Solve this fast." Staff ain't slave either. Remember, they actually volunteered themselves to help. They don't get anything in return.
But I get the point. Staff shouldn't be harsh too. Staff don't have to jail or ban people that might annoy them. Just tell them that if they can't. If the player don't understand, ignore them. They will get the point.
Though players supposedly to ask through the support channel for their own problem. Only ask staff if the problem affect the gameplay/community as a whole. (Like bugs, exploits, etc)
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There are 4 levels of staff before L5, why people have to SMS Cherry when there are other 30 staff members? She's more busy than me doing every kind of stuff that needs to be done, without asking for duties. @Luther
Being without duty doesn't mean she HAS TO answer and get spammed by people requesting every single little thing. Once again, there are other 30 staff members and most of things asked to L5 are either "requesting unfair advantages" or are things that can be done by lower staff levels.
People don't trust L1-L3 staffs like they do more exeperienced L4 & L5 staffs. It's as simple as that. Players live in fear of contacting a L1-3 staff because they'll either be ignored and or muted and jailed as per 'the rules.' But I digress, 89% of people out there don't know when it's okay to do so and when it's not.
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People don't trust L1-L3 staffs like they do more exeperienced L4 & L5 staffs. It's as simple as that. Players live in fear of contacting a L1-3 staff because they'll either be ignored and or muted and jailed as per 'the rules.' But I digress, 89% of people out there don't know when it's okay to do so and when it's not.
We don't punish for SMSing us for help, but if you be like "hi" "yo" "you there?" Don't expect a reply, as it's sometimes annoying to answer to every greeting, just go straight to the point.
As for the rules, I suggest allowing non guaranteed transfeers but under their own responsability, meaning they can't complain if they get scammed, etc.
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We need one staff to play except Turkish Turkish don't and sometimes the staff knows the nightwolf complaint very different decisions to not understand so you're back from the prototype consciousness or a good knowledge of English staff of Turkish staff do you recommend
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Brian that happens to me I asked a lot of staffs and seriously most of them ignored me that's why players get bored from them and they go talk to cherry or other L5 staffs
Yes, I know. We are currently reviewing all staff members and INCLUDE their behavior. No need to add anything else.
Look at this, last night a player that was probably his first time in the server, asked "alguien aqui es espanol?", and even before some one could tell him anything, like use /es to talk spanish or something like that, he got instantly muted, he could have just being a new guy asking for help, that will for sure not log in again because he cant even ask for some one who talks the same language as he does.
This is utterly sad. Like it's sad that the same guy got muted 4 times at the same time because current staff members are only capable to camp chats to punish. Yes, because some of them are too busy bullshitting around and playing with their "friends" that checking reports and assisting players ruin their fun. I got a report by a staff member that there's someone who keeps open panel and camp chats just to punish players. Ridicolous.
I'm going to fix this and get rid of this kind of deadweight.
People don't trust L1-L3 staffs like they do more exeperienced L4 & L5 staffs. It's as simple as that. Players live in fear of contacting a L1-3 staff because they'll either be ignored and or muted and jailed as per 'the rules.' But I digress, 89% of people out there don't know when it's okay to do so and when it's not.
Please provide me names of those who mute you for requesting help. I'll gladly take care of these powerwhores and get rid of them if this is proven to be the truth.
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Yes, I know. We are currently reviewing all staff members and INCLUDE their behavior. No need to add anything else.
This is utterly sad. Like it's sad that the same guy got muted 4 times at the same time because current staff members are only capable to camp chats to punish. Yes, because some of them are too busy bullshitting around and playing with their "friends" that checking reports and assisting players ruin their fun. I got reported by a staff member that there's someone that keeps open panel and camp chats just to punish players. Ridicolous.
I'm going to fix this and get rid of this kind of deadweight.
Please provide me names of those who mute you for requesting help. I'll gladly take care of this powerwhores and get rid of them if this is proven to be the truth.
Good on you Brian! I'm glad you're the one who's willing to take that step and do good for the community. Keep up the good work!
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We need one staff to play except Turkish Turkish don't and sometimes the staff knows the nightwolf complaint very different decisions to not understand so you're back from the prototype consciousness or a good knowledge of English staff of Turkish staff do you recommend
I agree with this situation and also we are trying to help turkish people(Who doesnt know english well actually most of them) to translate their ban/punishment appeal to english but when we will have a turkish ban/punishment appeal board like the one we used to have it will be much easier for the ones who are appealing and for us(who are translating) . (Because sometimes before we translate staffs reply they are locking topic .) And I would like you to say that Most of the players liked the updates especially the new ones .
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At least make a constructing comment about it ? 2 less people use F10 ? You mean too less people follow the rules.. You guys just want it without rules, and you think it would be okay.. You haven't seen anything yet.
sir have u seen the votes yesterday 76% or plus wanted to add it in J no one likes F10 so what do u say now sir @Deadly BTW
I think there should be a special admin A spy one who keep on eye on every staff and see their activities in cit and there should be some rules announced for Admins also what do u think Admins?
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I think there should be a special admin A spy one who keep on eye on every staff and see their activities in cit and there should be some rules announced for Admins also what do u think Admins?
Wouldn't this essentially fall under the Staff Performance Manager duty?
Certain L4 (myself and Nitrocide atm) look over and review L0-L3. (L5 handle L4 and Arran handles L5)
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I think the flaming rule needs an alteration. People are getting muted for saying stuff like "Fu*k" "dic*head" and the most ridiculous one of all "Gay", which isn't even a curse word. It's not like one word is gonna offend someone so badly and most are using this rule as an excuse to get back to people by reporting them for saying just 1 damn curse word. So, I would like to suggest so that people only get muted in cases were they flame excessively, like families, race, religions etc.
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Stop using your superior powers to entitle people as "Official Dumbass" and "Ungrateful piece of garbage" and see how far that'd take you, just sayin'.
How is that related to the rules ?
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Stop using your superior powers to entitle people as "Official Dumbass" and "Ungrateful piece of garbage" and see how far that'd take you, just sayin'.
It's funny you said that, since you have the "Official dumbass'' title on your forum profile. Now everyone that got punished/banned/ or treated badly will come talk about it, I guess that we have a lot of banned players, why don't they all come here and vote to remove the rule they were banned for ? Logic lol
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I think that is not so much about the rules, is more about how they get applied :-\
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I think that is not so much about the rules, is more about how they get applied :-\
They get applied with a very strict way and this is the most important thing that I hope it will be changed.
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Stop using your superior powers to entitle people as "Official Dumbass" and "Ungrateful piece of garbage" and see how far that'd take you, just sayin'.
Agreed. Just because someone made mistakes doesn't mean he is an official dumbass. Haha. I've seen so many times people got banned by flaming and admins flamed the flame. It's like fighting fire with fire. it won't stop until they despise each other. The one with power wins. But what is power for without grace?
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If you actually read his last account posts you'd know why he became CIT's official dumbass. Another big mouth that said "I leave CIT" 40 times and he's still here crying over a title instead of doing something to deserve its removal like others did. @Claire
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Having members playing in the environment with the new rules that have stayed shouldnt be voting, these people are not those players that left 1-5 years ago, these people are the 1000 that are here not the 4000 that are away, IMO these votes dont matter because they are biased, take it from someone playing almost 2 years ago, we want the old CIT back, You can ban me, mute me, wateva but with this posting im leaving behind, the old players aint coming back forever!
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If you actually read his last account posts you'd know why he became CIT's official dumbass. Another big mouth that said "I leave CIT" 40 times and he's still here crying over a title instead of doing something to deserve its removal like others did. @Claire
I don't want to know what he did and how he did that though. My point being 'don't fight fire with fire'. I have no idea how staff sees it, but I think such forum titles are unnecessary. Proper punishment should be a mute or certain duration of ban, you should not label people. Honestly, if I found myself with 'official dumbass' title. I would be disappointed to myself and would probably rage quit CIT forever because of ashamed of it. Haha.
People do change you know. Who knows if someone is still they were months ago? Not everyone can show it properly that they change because not everyone can control their emotions as good or as bad as the others. And putting a negative label to them won't help them changing, really. Well, some people can, but most people can not.
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The fact that someone rants on it, making various players go offtopic while he could appeal in the correct section demonstrates he's the same kid that deserved the title with his actions. You demand for a punishment which clearly brings for a long ban instead of a title? It's fine with me but then once again you are requesting something that many players are complaining about: Staff punishing in a strict way.
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The fact that someone rants on it, making various players go offtopic while he could appeal in the correct section demonstrates he's the same kid that deserved the title with his actions. You demand for a punishment which clearly brings for a long ban instead of a title? It's fine with me but then once again you are requesting something that many players are complaining about: Staff punishing in a strict way.
Not necessarily a long ban. Just a right duration of ban (Like a week or so) or a right punishment. How I see 'staff punishing in a too strict way' is when they ban/punish someone more than they deserve. Like in the past there were 28 days ban for flaming staff (Which mostly barely flame). perma ban for naming himself [CIT], perma ban for flame, perma ban for 'having no brain' (<-This is just mean). That sounds like a death penalty for just an unarmed shop robbery.
You demand for a punishment which clearly brings for a ban instead of a title?
Just take it this way. If you make a mistake, what would you prefer: Get the punishment you deserve for or let the system tells everyone you know that you're a bad person?
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Rather have a stupid title and work on getting it removed than being banned and not being even able to TRY to fix it. Trolling has always been punished with permabans, it's been like that since I joined this server.
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Trolling has always been punished with permabans
Are u kidding me? I remember times when staffs were JAILING for trolling
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Are u kidding me? I remember times when staffs were JAILING for trolling
Jails are for trivial stuff like punching players without reason.
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Rather have a stupid title and work on getting it removed than being banned and not being even able to TRY to fix it.
Hmm. Actually a proper punishment fixes it automatically. Just like when someone is out of jail, he is free of what they have done. Lemme give an example: Someone says "CIT sucks, I leav cit 4ever, f you!" on forum, then you punish him, let's say 7 days mute. After 7 days, he paid what he did with that punishment. He might become better but if he doesn't and he flames again, mute him again for 7 days. At some point he would change and be better, but if not, well, he still has the right to not be punished more than he deserve. So at least he knows he gets the justice.
In another example, you give him a label of 'ungrateful piece of trash', nobody likes being labeled negatively. he would think that you don't want him here. because he think you think he is a trash. They feel unneeded, they rage or they quit, less unique player. The chance of him to be a good player is thrown away just because of a stupid label. Again I say, because some people may or may not be able to control their emotions as good or as bad as the others.
In another less on-topic example, TRYing to fix what you have done in this community is a hell of hard work. Your reputation is glued into you. No matter how many good things you have done in the past, it's nothing when you make mistake. I think at some point I saw JTPenn's profile as 'ungrateful piece of garbage' or something (And Glenno too). They did good things in the past. Dunno what they done until they disappear but now what people know of them are "Ungrateful Piece of Garbage" despite all the good things they did. That's why you should not label people. It changes people's perception to them. It's not just unnecessary, but also unfair.
Trolling has always been punished with permabans, it's been like that since I joined this server.
Isn't the point of this topic is to change the rules? Punishment is part of the rules, right?
Just opinions though. No hard feeling or such.
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4. Do not camp in a CITy zone while you're wanted in order to avoid being arrested unless your zone is fully accessible.
I think that it should be allowed to make difficult zones for cops to die in as they try to get you. This only makes it more and it's almost like creating your own criminal events if used together with other criminals.
The only reason why we build those cop killing zones is just too have some fun. We aint doing it for the farming of stats, who gives a shit about stats anyways ?
When you build a new zone you can't just have a straight way into the core of it, there's several things you need to take into consideration and especially here on CIT.
Is this a server where people play with 100 ping as maximum and min req of 50-60 fps ? No it's not, so how can we proceed ?
Well when we're building a new zone for cop killing it might seem like we're gonna build something that we can abuse, but when we put down fences and other stuff it's mainly for the laggers and sometimes the cops just drive into the zones with vehicles like the NRG's. How can this be considered abusive ? And yes!! we stand there with our MG's,M4's,AK's whatever to just nuke the cops, but when they actually rush it's not that easy to defend.
We had several admins at our zone which we now have deleted cause admins tend to read & understand the rules differently. Some say it's allowed while some say it's not, stuff like this is really annoying.
We would like more freedom when we're building our zones and if the cop's gonna whine about them, can't they just leave the area and let the other cops that don't whine kill us and gain some sweet cash ? Starting to get a bit sick of 'this and that' all the time...
The 3 important things.
- More Freedom when building zones for cop killing.
- Inform the admins of what's allowed and not allowed to do at the zones.
- Less whining from the cops, calling admins just cause the can't catch some random crims even if the zone is open.
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"More freedom to kill cops"
This server had the example when u could freely kill a cop that it will lower the players working as police members, do you really want to end with a small ammount of cops where u would only kill the sames over and over?
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So the top three right now are , from top down, "No changes required", #3, and #14.
I'm honestly confused on #3, is there anyone here who has, in recent days/weeks, actually been punished who could tell us their side of the story as to what makes the situation unfair? (again, just for #3)
#14 makes sense as it is.
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"More freedom to kill cops"
This server had the example when u could freely kill a cop that it will lower the players working as police members, do you really want to end with a small ammount of cops where u would only kill the sames over and over?
Yea and I miss that... there's like 0,1% RP on this server and why would you bother if we had some cop killing event at our zone. Just stay away if you're gonna whine like that, you cops have ruined most of the fun already.
Have you noticed how many players that are playing as cops now that you guys earn a shit ton of cash ? If we kill a few cops, within 2-3 mins i'll have 10 cops chasing my ass due to the high payment. We don't really care about the cash or stats... We just want more freedom to build what we want and if you don't like it stay away, simple. Enough of the puny police now..
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Yea and I miss that... there's like 0,1% RP on this server and why would you bother if we had some cop killing event at our zone. Just stay away if you're gonna whine like that, you cops have ruined most of the fun already.
Have you noticed how many players that are playing as cops now that you guys earn a shit ton of cash ? If we kill a few cops, within 2-3 mins i'll have 10 cops chasing my ass due to the high payment. We don't really care about the cash or stats... We just want more freedom to build what we want and if you don't like it stay away, simple. Enough of the puny police now..
Smart thinking @sandisk,
You're the one who are provoking cops to come to fights by saying "NEED MOR COPS AT JFM" or some bullshit like that, There is a dude named "wowcamilo" this guy spams the chat all day with provokative things to cops, I think half of the police community will agree with me, he just spams "Cops come to JFM nobbs or a piggs?"
"cops nabbs com to JFM or are nubbs?" Yet you're the one who is saying;
Just stay away if you're gonna whine like that, you cops have ruined most of the fun already.
We ain't gonna stay away from provokers who seek battles with cops for no reason.
And how did we "ruin" your fun? By whining? LOL GIMME A BREAK PLEASE.
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Smart thinking @sandisk,
You're the one who are provoking cops to come to fights by saying "NEED MOR COPS AT JFM" or some bullshit like that, There is a dude named "wowcamilo" this guy spams the chat all day with provokative things to cops, I think half of the police community will agree with me, he just spams "Cops come to JFM nobbs or a piggs?"
"cops nabbs com to JFM or are nubbs?" Yet you're the one who is saying;
We ain't gonna stay away from provokers who seek battles with cops for no reason.
And how did we "ruin" your fun? By whining? LOL GIMME A BREAK PLEASE.
I don't give a shit what some random guy say in main... By whining I mean that random cops sms admins/spam main about zones they cant rush inside solo. When some admin arrive we have to stop what we're doing to discuss if the zone is ok or not and that simply suck all the fun out of it. When we had our zone we had admins there several times due to some random cops chasing or typing to the admins to come and have a look.
Our zone got deleted once but then we got the perm to rebuild it, it was kinda the same just some small adjustmets and even after that cops started to whine again and something else had to go away.
If you're that easily provoked you should get off the internet mate.
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So the top three right now are , from top down, "No changes required", #3, and #14.
I'm honestly confused on #3, is there anyone here who has, in recent days/weeks, actually been punished who could tell us their side of the story as to what makes the situation unfair? (again, just for #3)
#14 makes sense as it is.
Well I am confused about that rule (#14) and I can't say that I didn't get punished about that rule too and I deserve my punish also..
But this rule is important for the server if it will be removed everybody will spam the support chat and it will be like the main chat everybody is talking over there then in this case better delete the support chat
But for me why should we musus that chat ?
Everybody need some support to play the game..
And without it there will be a big problem.
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I think the best thing to do is to remove CnR from zones, this way u can make your "perfect" zones...
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7. Do not request an unfair advantage from a member of staff...
This rule is useless because rarely players get punished for it
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cit ples can u tell me how to apply in group?
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cit ples can u tell me how to apply in group?
Go to: http://cit2.net/index.php?board=6.0 (http://cit2.net/index.php?board=6.0)
Don't use here in future use the general support board.
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Oh damn I forgot to give you a forum warning for that. Too late now.
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Welcome to #staff
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Voting has closed for more than 24 hours, yet people still keep complaining about things that has nothing to do with the topic.
This was supposedly to see if any rule needed to be changed, if you guys got anything against a staff member, take proper proofs and report it, easy as that.
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Every one is fine now and i'm happy for these new rules ^-^ But really #14 has kind of being bad rate my Duscussion
thank you .
It will be nicer if you increase some RP because the Server is now Low of RP .
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"OOH I Just owned Biggy on the fourms!"
*Copys the link to staff chat*
*everybody Laughs*
*Xbox is a superior boss on a game*
*Self esteem is boosted*
Cycle repeats itself.
and why should you reply here ?
this is not the place to discuss about your custom title if you have something to say about the rules say it if you don't please don't fight here and go to the complaint topicand do what ever you want
there ,over
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13. Speak English only team chat.
Many members take their two Arab sanctions because of this thing . It may be a new member does not know these laws.
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13. Speak English only team chat.
Many members take their two Arab sanctions because of this thing . It may be a new member does not know these laws.
Dude come on, do you know it says press 'F1' when you log-in? Following the rules isn't that hard and some 'Arabic Support' section just got added too so can you stop picking random rules and just saying 'some people doesn't know the rules'? The voting is closed already and no changes is required.
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Dude come on, do you know it says press 'F1' when you log-in? Following the rules isn't that hard and some 'Arabic Support' section just got added too so can you stop picking random rules and just saying 'some people doesn't know the rules'? The voting is closed already and no changes is required.
+1 All players not pressing "F1",Some Suggestions - if new players logged on , They automatically see the Rules , and if some staffs do that , that will be awesome.
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+1 All players not pressing "F1",Some Suggestions - if new players logged on , They automatically see the Rules , and if some staffs do that , that will be awesome.
True, true...But lets be honest, when u get in CIT for the first time u wont read F1, u want to try the server before reading pages n pages of rules n information...There should be a mini guide for new players, because no one will read F1 without knowing the server first...It's way too much info and the new players dont care about that because they could not like the server so, they wont waste their time
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Use your L5 administrative powers to view Xbox Private Messages, There is not section to appeal custom titles, how can a custom title substitute a punishment? I deserved to be called a Dumbass by someone who doesn't know a thing about me because I decided that I didn't want a Forum Rank on a GAMING server? You have staff who punish people excessively and use the powers given to them to assist players of this server to try to humiliate people becuase they take offence to their actions.Changing the rules isn't gonna change anything, figure out what should, it's kinda obvious ya' know?
I see people being creative and appealing their stuff anyway. Once again you show us you well deserved that title. Now stop spamming and go back to your troll cave. SMF does not allow us to watch PMs of members unless I change xb0x' pass and break in his account. Your behaviour shows one more time xb0x did well. Now please leave this page.
and why should you reply here ?
this is not the place to discuss about your custom title if you have something to say about the rules say it if you don't please don't fight here and go to the complaint topicand do what ever you want
there ,over
Exactly.
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I have implemented various rule changes.