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Ingame Community => News and Updates => Topic started by: RaMoS on 10 07, 2021, 07:43:35 am
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Well I'll explain the reason behind the suggestion that I was inside CE and I was surprised that some players abuse by placing barriers and they go to the other side, For example, I could abuse the barriers by placing them on the top of something and then being invisible to anyone and even going to cop's side If I was a Criminal in that case and killing them all without being seen, So giving that advantage only to CBs and PCs would be better because they are even responsible and were chosen based on their behavior and maturity, so I don't think it's possible for these officials to abuse something like that, Apart from the reason I said above, there also some players who placing barriers in front of the door to prevent the other side from attacking and this takes a while for the staff to come and remove it and sometimes there is no staff or CBs\PCs.
I would like to mention @Farhan-Khan because he can confirm what I have said above as he is official CE mapper.
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Its great idea but if there is no CBs and PCs online what will do both sides to protect themselves how you want to execute feature of placing barriers inside CEs only possible for CBs and PCs , put in your mind that there is group leaders while doing Activity and his most of group members with him he must craft armour I need solution for this My vote will remain Neutral Untill you explain
Hello mate, First of all, what're the benefits of placing barriers when CEs already designed to be closed and filled with buildings, and there are also some barriers that can actually protect you? Secondly, normal players cannot craft armor only CBs and PCs can do that.
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did you ever used barrier to crouch and craft armour as you old criminal ? Anyways I will change my vote soon
aha you mean that then, I would have thought you meant that the shield could be crafted by players, As I said there are enough barriers to crouch behind there is no need to craft more barriers.
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CBs/PCs ask players to place barriers to place them faster and cover a place faster than placing them alone.... I agree that sometimes players sometimes might abuse it, place it in a wrong way or something... but there's a better fix for this
That CBs/PCs can remove other players' barriers inside CEs instead of disallowing all players from placing barriers which will make the barriers a little bit useless because barriers are mostly used in CEs.
I'm voting NEGATIVE on this suggestion. sry.
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I have experienced this issue recently where normal players place barriers even tho me as a CE Map editor made it sure to place barrier in all the possible spots where it is needed but still they place around 10 barriers in a narrow path which is extremely annoying and is baseless… A player should be used to play with the area provided to them.
The other main issue is the misuse/abuse of those barriers. I have received multiple complaints where players place those barriers close to any wall or on any object which result in warping them outside the map where they can hide or freely move from one place to another or even move to the opposition spawn.
To avoid this issue either remove crafting barriers from CE at all or just limit the access to CBs or PCs which are actually the trusted people of the community who will not misuse it like any other player.
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It can be restricted to more trusted people who wouldnt risk getting punishment over a barrier.
RCM+
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Yes... I've been facing this issue a lot nowadays I remember a guy called Shrek[CID] used to block places in every CE as a cop and getting complained basically either he doesn't know the usage of the barriers or he's disturbing others' gameplay, restricting it to CBs or PCs would be actually great, or as HosttyBoy said, it could be restricted to +RCM because they're trusted and won't risk getting their community rank removed over a trivial thing, you can also remove crafting barriers from CEs (interiors) as it's not needed because as far as I know Farhan mapped it well with the required barriers. Positive.
That CBs/PCs can remove other players' barriers inside CEs instead of disallowing all players from placing barriers which will make the barriers a little bit useless because barriers are mostly used in CEs.
What if there are no CBs/PCs inside the CE and only 2 cops inside abusing barriers? They'll keep abusing because there's no one stopping them...
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It can be restricted to more trusted people who wouldnt risk getting punishment over a barrier.
RCM+
Making the barriers accessible for more trusted/mature community members will be a sensible decision since we don't see criminal bosses or police chiefs in every CE. Positive
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:tick:
Recently got angry at some dudes that were blocking a few entrances at criminal events, I had no idea that pretty much anyone could play them in interiors now. Back then things were different, and I totally agree with having only criminal bosses and police chiefs place these barriers. But as HosttyBoy mentioned, allowing people with Regular Community Membership or above to place barriers is probably a smart decision as well, or maybe for Senior Community Members, since getting RCM is rather easy nowadays.
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Almost everyone places random unwanted barriers at bad spots which as a result, blocks some places inside the CE which is a bit frustrating and I believe restricting this feature to CBs and PCs only might actually help us overcome this issue. I'm supporting this.
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Actually, I thought a lot about your suggestion about not limiting that feature to CBs and PCs only and giving this advantage to RCM+ but actually, I am against this idea because there are already some players who have RCM but their behavior is suspicious because it's actually according to the rules the penalties in the game have nothing to do with the forum so whoever owns the RCM status if he gets punishment in the game the RCM square will not be removed from him or even demoted to JCM, so he will not care about his actions or even will not be afraid to lose his RCM square and he can abuse the placing barriers at CEs as well, so it is possible to suggest that to give this advantage to the leaders of the official groups, at least they will be careful not to receive punishments so they don't harm their groups or themselves by receiving demoted.
I would like to hear your opinions @HosttyBoy and @GrandGhost
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I would agree with Ramos and Farhan, this barriers have become so annoying this days. Players will spam the area with barriers and making it impossible for either sides to rush as there would be a maze of barriers. I would suggest completely removing barriers from CE as enough barriers are already placed in CE map. :tick:
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CBs, PCs and humans can make bad decisions that can lead to the misuse of the barrier. Better it be restricted to RCM+ and if anyone gets 3 valid punishments on the barrier misuse, his access will be removed. No matter if he's PC, CB or any RCM+, if he gets more than 3 valid punishments on barrier misuse his access will be removed.
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Making it for official groups members or leaders would be more fair than restricting it to only +RCM which could only be gained if u spam this board 24/7 with random posts and suggestions
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- 8 Positive votes
- 1 Negative vote
Remains Neutral until the next review.
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I've seen too many trusted players who have been misused barriers inside the criminal events to get an advantage to ruin the others' gameplay, and that isn't fair for the other side.
The second thing is that if the devs made those abilities for the police chief and criminal boss only, it might be fair for both sides to avoid those who abuse that feature in a bad way. Therefore, I am supporting this idea.
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Regarding the suggestion itself, I'll be positive, and here's why.
A few days ago, I attended a CE and was amazed by the amount of placed barriers. They literally were put in a very bad way, preventing cops (I was a cop when I attended that CE) from running back to their spawn, also preventing criminals from rushing. This is indeed abusable and needs to be fixed as soon as possible. In my opinion, I guess that if you want to place barriers, you should have 500+ hours. However, if this restriction already works inside the CE area as well and people are still misusing barriers since it pops up to players who try to place barriers outside the CE dimension telling them their inability to place barriers just because their hours are less than 500 hours, then, I guess that we either increase the hours from 500 to 1000 (number can be negotiated) and/or create a warning, which could be: 'Beware, you're about to place barriers. If you somehow misuse them, you might get admin jailed. Be careful!' and translate it to the barriers' placer's guy.
And by the way, I don't agree with allowing PCs and CBs only to place barriers, as they're not always online leading their teammates, so another player needs to do the job instead.
It can be restricted to more trusted people who wouldnt risk getting punishment over a barrier.
RCM+
No. Imagine a civilian whose community rank is RCM+ as you're saying, tries the Law side and obviously has no idea about barriers because, simply, he's 'new' to playing on this side. He decides to place barriers as an intention of helping his teammates, however, out of nowhere, he gets jailed for something he didn't even try to misuse in the first place. Wouldn't this be unfair?
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Locked due to not receiving a sufficient number of votes since its last review/Not supported.
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- Due to abuse only police chiefs and criminal bosses can place barriers inside criminal events. (Arran + iRaMoS)