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Title: [+++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Krakenizer on 25 10, 2022, 07:49:39 pm: Well, the Fisherman job is heavily unplayed, and since I haven't seen a change in Fish's price for two years, then it's time to increase it, that way players will then make more cash as the fish resource is consumed daily for food crafting, taking a look below at the maximum sale price, it's $40/unit... according to the changes in Wheat (maxed at $89, AI sells for $90), Herbs (maxed at $139, AI sells for $140), Hemp (maxed at $$139, AI sells for $140) and Meat (maxed at $89, AI sells for $90) so the price changed for all of these and Fish remained forgotten, the Fish is the least max priced resource here, if we take a look at the screenshot below, it's maxed at $40 and the AI sells for $80

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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697417515617222707/1034519480824500354/unknown.png)

And here's the update line for other resources increment in maximum price;

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- Increased maximum sale price of wheat, herbs, hemp and meat. (Arran + TwCafe)

So to sum it up, I have seen an L10 Fisherman earning 1477 units of fish and 632 units of nitrous with no mistakes (he did it all in 11 minutes), so if we sell the Fish at the current maximum price which will be $40/1477 units of fish, that's a $59,080, put the nitrous aside as people automatically sell it to the bots on $8/unit as there are too many nitrous sellers, so earning something close to 60k-66k in 11 minutes is heavily underpaying, if the max prices increased to $79/unit then you'll be able to earn at least a 100k-115k in 11 minutes on that new set price, and then that would be a lot fairer to earn, as simply you are still controlled by the /earnlimit script and you won't go over the 480k earnings in an hour, even if you hit the limit within 40-45 minutes, there are jobs like LS Miner or Train Driver hit the limit in 40 minutes easily. I believe this change would make it popular again.
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Micko94 on 25 10, 2022, 10:58:26 pm: Full support. :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: TwCafe on 26 10, 2022, 05:22:00 am: Yes, for sure. :tick:

And he items that people cannot set higher but the hightest due to the maximum limit should be fixed, too.

Such as IRON, especially the LS miner got nerfed recently.
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: R2003 on 26 10, 2022, 10:11:53 am: Make Fish Great Again! :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Flacko on 26 10, 2022, 10:12:26 am: I believe increasing the fish amount the Fisherman get would be a better solution rather than increasing the resources' prices. This would mess up the economy and I believe this server should be newcomer-friendly. People should not suffer trying to save money to get themselves a car and make it fully tuned for example. In short, Fisherman job not paying good enough is what we don't want to see but increase the resources the Fisherman earns instead of a raise in fish prices.
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: MulderUwU on 26 10, 2022, 10:16:25 am: :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: TwCafe on 26 10, 2022, 10:25:03 am: Quote from: FLACKO on 26 10, 2022, 10:12:26 am
I believe increasing the fish amount the Fisherman get would be a better solution rather than increasing the resources' prices. This would mess up the economy and I believe this server should be newcomer-friendly. People should not suffer trying to save money to get themselves a car and make it fully tuned for example. In short, Fisherman job not paying good enough is what we don't want to see but increase the resources the Fisherman earns instead of a raise in fish prices.
In these days, LS Miner got nerfed, and some suggestions related to raising job payment got denied, cuz the admin thinks the payments are good enough, even too much(mostly Brian), so it's nearly impossible to raise the job payment atm.

Back to the title, why I support raising the maximum price?
CUz it's just a script to limit sellers setting the price, once the price is always the highest, or the sellers don't want to sell cuz even the max price isn't worthy to sell then you will see nobody selling the items. Yet, according to the supply and demand, all the price of items will be balanced even the limit scripts don't exist. So, don't worry about 'it'll ruin the economy'. The buyers and sellers will balance the price.
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Krakenizer on 26 10, 2022, 10:38:16 am: Quote from: FLACKO on 26 10, 2022, 10:12:26 am
I believe increasing the fish amount the Fisherman get would be a better solution rather than increasing the resources' prices. This would mess up the economy and I believe this server should be newcomer-friendly. People should not suffer trying to save money to get themselves a car and make it fully tuned for example. In short, Fisherman job not paying good enough is what we don't want to see but increase the resources the Fisherman earns instead of a raise in fish prices.

Fish remained at its old price, I'm sure it was forgotten because as I mentioned above, most of the used resources to craft food are raised up, also we don't see any fish sellers at any specific time, so in the end, players still need to buy Fish on $80/unit from the AI Trader, so it's surely the same case, raising up the prices will make it better, that's where I see the job getting better due to the low amounts it receives even as an L10 you won't surpass 1500 units of fish, and that's where I see a better income.
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Benzies on 26 10, 2022, 12:02:42 pm: :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: #MA on 26 10, 2022, 12:27:45 pm: This is the best suggestion for fisherman job, this might help making it alive again as no one is playing it anymore recently. :tick: :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Blue. on 27 10, 2022, 12:11:01 pm: Positive.
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: ruzgar on 29 10, 2022, 10:53:29 am: :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Cyaride on 29 10, 2022, 09:17:38 pm: Absolutely giving a positive as no one plays as fisherman in these days. :tick:

It's a good job and if we can improve the income of it, it will be played by more players in my opinion
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Flacko on 29 10, 2022, 10:43:35 pm: Quote from: Krakenizer on 26 10, 2022, 10:38:16 am
Fish remained at its old price, I'm sure it was forgotten because as I mentioned above, most of the used resources to craft food are raised up, also we don't see any fish sellers at any specific time, so in the end, players still need to buy Fish on $80/unit from the AI Trader, so it's surely the same case, raising up the prices will make it better, that's where I see the job getting better due to the low amounts it receives even as an L10 you won't surpass 1500 units of fish, and that's where I see a better income.
Quote from: TwCafe on 26 10, 2022, 10:25:03 am
In these days, LS Miner got nerfed, and some suggestions related to raising job payment got denied, cuz the admin thinks the payments are good enough, even too much(mostly Brian), so it's nearly impossible to raise the job payment atm.

Back to the title, why I support raising the maximum price?
CUz it's just a script to limit sellers setting the price, once the price is always the highest, or the sellers don't want to sell cuz even the max price isn't worthy to sell then you will see nobody selling the items. Yet, according to the supply and demand, all the price of items will be balanced even the limit scripts don't exist. So, don't worry about 'it'll ruin the economy'. The buyers and sellers will balance the price.

I see what you both mean, in addition, Fisherman earning a little bit more should be a thing too, as it would be more realistic. I'm personally not a civ side guy but I believe you both got some experince too. If that's what you both think, then you've got my support. Going with a positive vote anyway. :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: BornToDie on 30 10, 2022, 01:21:11 am: :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: RuDz on 30 10, 2022, 01:36:46 am: Supporting the idea :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Sleuth on 30 10, 2022, 05:31:03 pm: :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Aimboot on 01 11, 2022, 01:40:27 am: Since the other items' price has changed over time, I don't see any reason why shouldn't happen the same to Fish. It would be nice to, above all, revive Fisherman job, so I only see benefits for the server.

Useful idea. :tick:
Title: Re: Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: TwCafe on 02 11, 2022, 02:04:46 am: 14 positive votes. Marked as Low Priority.
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Pythh on 02 11, 2022, 02:10:51 am: :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: iMazen on 03 11, 2022, 05:37:37 pm: I do not see anyone working as a fisherman a lot, so because the fish does not bring in much money, but if the price is increased, people will be interested in the job ، Positive
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Axe on 04 11, 2022, 03:36:08 pm: :cros:
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Krakenizer on 04 11, 2022, 03:40:17 pm: Quote from: Axe on 04 11, 2022, 03:36:08 pm
:cros:
@TwCafe, useless post to be negative on an essential fix to fish price, the only guy who's voting negatively, as I voted on his discussion negatively, he came here to vote negatively too, such childish behavior to pay back.
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: TwCafe on 05 11, 2022, 01:52:21 am: Quote from: Krakenizer on 04 11, 2022, 03:40:17 pm
@TwCafe, useless post to be negative on an essential fix to fish price, the only guy who's voting negatively, as I voted on his discussion negatively, he came here to vote negatively too, such childish behavior to pay back.
Every single player has the right to vote here. And no reason needed since the old #13 was removed by Arran.
There is nothing we can do, unless a new board rule is made.
Maybe you can try to make a suggestion.
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: rbby on 05 11, 2022, 08:27:39 am: fisherman was my first job to ever achieve level 10 back in 2015. It used to pay around 50-60k as level 10, back when 50-60k was considered as high pay wage for civilian jobs. now comparing this to pilot, iron miner or any other civilian jobs I feel like it's way too underrated as you get 50-60k per 10mins, where instead I would prefer farmer or lumberjack for quick-up cash by selling it to the AI. I always sell it to the AI but still 50-60k is just not worth spending 10mins over. I don't need to go in detail about that, so in short, my vote is positive.
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Culph on 06 11, 2022, 11:23:02 am: This might be able to make the fisherman job more active :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Smith. on 09 11, 2022, 12:29:15 am: It's a good idea to increase the selling price of fish to 79$/unit because the original price I thought was too low and made the community members seem underpaid and doing nothing. But I believe that if we can raise the price, it will be good because more players will come back to earn money and make more fishing careers. :tick:
Title: Re: [+] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: TwCafe on 09 11, 2022, 02:20:32 am: 20 positive, 1 negative votes. Marked as Medium Priority.
Title: Re: [++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: DbZ on 09 11, 2022, 08:57:12 pm: :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Impostor on 12 11, 2022, 08:59:41 pm: Make fishing great again :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Private on 13 11, 2022, 01:10:07 pm: There is no reason to play as fisherman nowadays in order to make profit, as the max price we can sell fish right now is really low like Krakenizer said and we need to raise it so we make the job more playable, ofcourse positive :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Mask on 13 11, 2022, 03:18:21 pm: unfortunately the fisherman job has gone unnoticed, because the earnings are not so favorable for the player, some people (myself included) just work to get experience and have high levels in statistics and for the level up bonus, but I think that with this I think it would have a little more use, since what keeps a job alive is the pay unfortunately. :tick:
Title: Re: [++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: M1D0 on 13 11, 2022, 04:56:06 pm: People were working as fishermen because it was profitable at the time. This may make the job active again and motivate the players to work more. Positive.
Title: Re: [++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: TwCafe on 16 11, 2022, 02:26:21 am: High Priority now.
Title: Re: [+++] Increasing maximum sale price of Fish to $79/unit
Post by: Danzy on 20 11, 2022, 09:52:45 am: Increased it to $69, if needed more will increase again.

- Increased maximum sale price of Fish. (Danzy + Krakenizer)