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Title: [+++] New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Farhan on 21 03, 2021, 11:42:11 am
Greeting everyone,

As the title explains, The idea is about adding a new CE which would be named as Military Base Raid.
Inshort, the criminals will raid a secret military base situated in LS.

Flaws in the current CEs maps: So, as we all know that the current CEs map sucks due to the following reasons.

Reason why it should be added/ What's new? It covers all the above flaws mentioned in current CEs maps.


CE location: https://imgur.com/a/6iM7XIs

Preview of the map:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jpD5gzmN70


Spawn Points: https://imgur.com/a/nuhzCzC

Map file link: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705031961995116585/823037825796538409/SecretMilitaryRaid-CE.zip


Note for Arran:
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EM[#EM + 1] = {268.421, 1862.799, 8.757, 224.053, 1862.886, 13.146, 904, "MBR", createMarker(955.173, -1449.362, 13.541 + 0.6, "arrow", 1.5, 0, 255, 0, 150)}
exits[createMarker(264.870, 1857.692, 8.757 + 0.5, "arrow", 1.5)] = 904
exits[createMarker(213.787, 1875.574, 13.146 + 0.5, "arrow", 1.5)] = 904
doors[createObject(5422, 226.486, 1873.047, 14.746, 0, 0, 0)] = 904
doors[createObject(5422, 283.013, 1869.426, 9.770, 0, 0, 0)] = 904
cePos[#cePos + 1] = {955, -1449}
exitPos[#exitPos + 1] = {961.946, -1448.229, 13.428, 90}
antiRush[#antiRush + 1] = {275.267, 1863.876, 8.757, 217.701, 1868.592, 13.140}


The CE has been mapped by Me and JayXxX.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Brian on 21 03, 2021, 12:09:12 pm
Why the base has a shop entrance?  ??? Can't find a more suitable entrance? Like where old CID base was...
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Farhan on 21 03, 2021, 12:42:36 pm
Why the base has a shop entrance?  ??? Can't find a more suitable entrance? Like where old CID base was...
You mean This (https://imgur.com/6Y477TM) one?

Well the base is actually a secret base so we had to chose a normal place but yeah that can be changed too, the only reason we didn't pick this spot was that usually it had bases and it's really exposed and has no way out for criminals to escape, also cops will camp on the roof so it will be unfair for criminals.

Tho, we came up another place which will be way more suitable and realistic than the last one.
here it is: https://imgur.com/a/6iM7XIs (Changed it to this one)
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: JayXxX on 21 03, 2021, 02:20:29 pm
So imma explain a bit the map based on the video.

- I've tried to give each side the advantage to push by placing objects that benefits them and not the other team.

- We want to avoid players camping with MG (and it will still happen probably) and for that we left many parts of the map open without cover.

- Many parts of the map are accesible from different points so a team doesnt stack in one place camping.

Those were our main ideas when mapping this. Obviously changes will be made in case its needed to improve the map.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Farhan on 21 03, 2021, 02:27:17 pm
If you remember Farhan in the old days 2015~2017 there was CE at the same place and it has been removed because its mapping was needed to be fixed and we didn't see this map again. I check the whole video Its nearly like the old Map but some boxes added at the side of the Meeting room. Your mapping skills are so good but the place is huge and it's not an acceptable Criterion of the CE mapping system. You may better change the map cuz if you can explain where is the place of both spawning cuz if There is spawn at the Meeting room it will be a bad spot for cops to move. My Vote will be Neutral till you explain the two spots of Spawn
I am playing since 2012 and I don't recall such map but even if it was and was removed for mapping issues so that's not gonna be a problem here, we have mapped every corner of it carefully and checked the whole map twice trice to avoid any kind of glitch or bugs.

About the map, so you might have played the CE LC, and people loved it because the map is really open and wide and people enjoy to play freely. The map is indeed  big and that's the fun part of it. The CE will not be boring like other small CEs, it has a lot of space which will be enjoyable as a CE.

About the spawn points so you didn't get it right, The first spawn point is the start of the video and the 2nd spawn point starts from 3:00 in video. Each spawn is expended furthermore so none of these spawns are small and have wide space for cover and such.

These are the SS which may clarify it for you:
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https://imgur.com/a/nuhzCzC
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Eleven on 21 03, 2021, 03:18:56 pm
Current CEs are very boring because both of the sides are spamming MGs till the end of CE. I watched the video and the place is too large and both sides can have a fair fight, there will be less MG spamming. There are different paths which is good because all the team will be not stuck in one place. There will be less team-stacking and blocking etc. I am positive.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Talha on 21 03, 2021, 04:21:18 pm
The idea of the new CE is cool because we are playing the same CEs for like a year now but now we are going to get a new CE which is pretty cool, From the video, I noticed that there are many different places for combat fights and the CE is very large so no side will be stuck in 1 place. I definitely support it.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Brian on 21 03, 2021, 05:23:24 pm
You mean This (https://imgur.com/6Y477TM) one?

Well the base is actually a secret base so we had to chose a normal place but yeah that can be changed too, the only reason we didn't pick this spot was that usually it had bases and it's really exposed and has no way out for criminals to escape, also cops will camp on the roof so it will be unfair for criminals.

Tho, we came up another place which will be way more suitable and realistic than the last one.
here it is: https://imgur.com/a/6iM7XIs (Changed it to this one)

There are several buildings that look like government buildings in LS. Just not far away from the location you suggest there's an anonymous building that fits more than a random shop.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: NIGHTMARE on 21 03, 2021, 05:37:18 pm
Lately criminal events are getting less popular , maybe this will make more people attend criminal events, interior looks amazing , I also like the idea of having it in a normal location and making it look like a secret base , positive.

Also in case this gets added don't forget to add it to /gps.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: thund3R on 21 03, 2021, 06:54:31 pm
This is something that I'd actually love to play as it seems spacious and hopefully is gonna prevent never ending MG spam. I also like the fact that the CE is different, meaning it doesn't have those stupid corridors like most of them do. I really hope that there's gonna be more new/improved CEs since most of the players are bored/tired of existing ones. :tick:
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Danzy on 21 03, 2021, 09:56:02 pm
@Farhan-Khan As far as I see, there are no checkpoints whatsoever in the script code to add the CE, is that intentional?
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Justice on 21 03, 2021, 10:04:44 pm
@Farhan-Khan As far as I see, there are no checkpoints whatsoever in the script code to add the CE, is that intentional?
I think he may have forgotten about the checkpoints.

I like the way it is mapped and tbh I think most of the criminals who always join in CEs will like this, since some CEs are too big and sometimes there's not enough boxes to hide like the SR. Adding this in the future will make the CE more exciting.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Farhan on 21 03, 2021, 10:51:26 pm
@Farhan-Khan As far as I see, there are no checkpoints whatsoever in the script code to add the CE, is that intentional?
Checkpoints are removed from CEs, so there was no need for it to be added in the code.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: GaMeFeR on 22 03, 2021, 12:19:38 am
It would be good to see a new CE and yours fit good to be implemented since we always assist to the same CE everytime I believe that would be good to see a new Criminal Event like yours i'm sure it will bring some entertaiment, Indeed positive.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Nevez on 22 03, 2021, 04:03:10 pm
Well, honestly it is nice to see new CE getting added ingame as far as I remember CEs are too much old and a bit laggy like slide and etc.., anyway the vd proved everything so idh much thing to say about this, so going with positive.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Farhan on 22 03, 2021, 09:43:21 pm
There are several buildings that look like government buildings in LS. Just not far away from the location you suggest there's an anonymous building that fits more than a random shop.
Would love to see if you have anything in mind.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Axe on 23 03, 2021, 01:50:59 am
To being with my vote is Positive.

We all know CEs are boring nowadays as there's nothing new, both teams spamming MGs till 20th min pass or even to the end of the CE, not the mention the CEs are very old and full of places where u can spam MGs, probably this map will bring some close-range fights (I'm sure that both teams will find a place where they can spam MGs) but there are many places where u can backstab the opposite team..etc it will be fun because the map is well-mapped with many objects to decrease the MG/Rifle spam.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Pyxtro on 23 03, 2021, 09:13:14 am
To be honest, I was also planning to offer a new CE, but today I saw your suggestion. I can say that it is really a thoughtful and designed suggestion. A new CE can add a different feel to the game as existing players are bored with the current CEs. Therefore, I was in the opinion of designing a new one (I gave up right now). As a result, your suggestion will add some difference to the game and make the players curious. I would like to state that I fully support your suggestion. Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Zuvich on 23 03, 2021, 10:13:47 am
I'm voting Positive since the current CE maps are pretty small compared to this new map and I'm sure criminals would enjoy this new map. The map has been designed very nicely and has a lot of space for an ordinary CnR fight. I'm definitely willing to have this map in-game.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: maxon1196 on 23 03, 2021, 10:16:12 am
Voting positive for sure, I'm glad you still care about maps and keep mapping, the map itself looks interesting for gameplay.  :thumb:
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Ghost. on 23 03, 2021, 11:27:35 am
The map seems cool, I hope that it'll be better than other CE's also I liked the CE place it will make the gameplay every interesting, I believe that players want a new CE map, I'm voting Positive
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Greengrocer on 23 03, 2021, 01:21:12 pm
The map seems amazing cuz as a FFH member I thought it'd be more enjoyable for our gorgeous tactics during events. My vote is Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: CJGIANNHS on 23 03, 2021, 07:53:17 pm
It will be nice to see a new one CE after long time, and this one looks a good one, so im gonna vote Positive
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Apollo on 23 03, 2021, 11:52:55 pm
Amazing edit and mapping, the interior of Area 61 is suitable to support a Criminal Event and I totally love it, can't wait for such a CE to be added Ingame.
Voting Positive.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Ahmed.. on 26 03, 2021, 05:34:51 pm
 UPVOTING. It’s a very nice CE, the map is designed pretty well and it can overcome all the current issues. Thanks
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: JayXxX on 26 03, 2021, 06:36:10 pm
I'd like to mention that we used invisible and resized objects to make it look this good. We've have also made some objects to be unbreakable but thats not a big deal.

If there's any extra step to do for the invisible and resized objects stuff, let us know.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Danzy on 26 03, 2021, 06:57:09 pm
Collisions with scaled objects don't scale with the object itself. Meaning if you resize and object it's collisions remain the same size, please re-test the map if any scaling occurred.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: JayXxX on 26 03, 2021, 09:04:41 pm
Collisions with scaled objects don't scale with the object itself. Meaning if you resize and object it's collisions remain the same size, please re-test the map if any scaling occurred.

No worries I knew that already, the map has no bugs
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Predator on 27 03, 2021, 12:09:21 am
My friend, I think you have made a lot of effort in designing this map, and also this is a beautiful work and it will make the server in progress and continuous renewal Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Ahmed? on 27 03, 2021, 11:53:40 am
Amazing editing and mapping, but I think it's a little big and I also like it and I want to see it in the game and wait for it and it will also be something better in CE and the idea of the new CE is great and also we have been playing the current Ce for more than a year and we haven't updated it and I think it's great At the time I saw his video, which is very good and it is very large, and he will not comment on any side of it, and I am positive
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: James on 27 03, 2021, 05:56:25 pm
Ugh, I don't mind having a new Criminal event, which means we will have more fun in my opinion, I enjoyed the previous design you have been made "SR" and you designed it very well, so I am sure this one will be amazing! I'm voting Positive.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Jova on 27 03, 2021, 07:22:50 pm
It would be a great if we have a new CE. Im so Positive. its good to keep CnR updated, first of all, its an interesting place to do a Criminal Event, using the military base basement as a map, yet so unique.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Elijah on 29 03, 2021, 10:03:25 am
Finally someone who actually care about CEs and doing some efforts to make the maps more exciting and fun for us. We all are aware of the current Maps issues as it’s extremely outdated and extremely small where most of them are mapped in such way that force players to hold and spam MGs..
I am happy to see such maps and hope you or any other mapper will continue mapping more CEs like this and update the current one. Clearly upvoting this one.
Title: Re: New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: HosttyBoy on 29 03, 2021, 12:39:21 pm
20+ positive votes. Marked as Medium Priority. To be marked as High Priority when there's a free slot.
Title: Re: [++] New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Farhan on 29 03, 2021, 12:53:28 pm
There were a lot going about the location of this CE so we eventually changed the location too but a friend came up with another location so I thought I should share to take your opinion guys.

Location we can consider:
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(https://i.imgur.com/zUQjYF3.png)


Current Location we selected:
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(https://i.imgur.com/jQo7oqp.png)



Would love to see your opinion about the location.
Title: Re: [++] New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: HosttyBoy on 09 04, 2021, 08:38:01 pm
Marked as High Priority.
Title: Re: [+++] New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Sleuth on 11 04, 2021, 02:37:15 am
I have personally always thought that the Military Base is a very suitable place for Criminal Events, the space, the different and strategic way objects are put in, it all pours into making a great CE. there are also many hiding spots that can make a side flip the tables on the other, a 2nd floor where there can be 2 sides fighting each other from different spots, not to mention the lab and the sewer part, it is a perfect Criminal Event for big numbers of Criminals. the fact that this Criminal Event Interior is also made in a way that could save us the Minigun spamming and encourage more close combat is great, we need more Criminal Events that are built in this way.

Upvoting.
Title: Re: [+++] New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: ese on 12 04, 2021, 02:15:32 pm
I don't want to be disrespectful towards your effort, but this map is huge as fuck. In a normal CE map, players cooperate to stay alive and win the events, but in this one people will play hide and seek surely. As you know, no one able to enter to CEs after 20 minutes pass. Imagine you're the only one who left on the criminal/law side, would you still keep fighting? Especially new players will hide until someone finds them. Because fighting against one is easier than fighting against the whole team.
On the other hand, the location of it is not appropriate to an army base, there is nothing about militarism. Either you need to add something outside or change the location but the only suitable location for this CE is DeltaTeam's base. (but it's impossible, since it's located in LV and too far away from other CEs.) I wish you good luck with other votes but I am negative since this map is VERY BIG for a Criminal Event.
Title: Re: [+++] New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: GoldNugget on 12 04, 2021, 03:21:03 pm
Why do we need new CE maps where 3 days in a row I've never get to play CE in the first place, criminals are overcrowding the queue, but no cop responds to it. Yeah, new maps and things are cool for sure not saying that your work is bad either, but I wouldn't want my map which I worked for hours not to be played normally. Especially, seeing that the interior itself is huge and it'll be so god damn frustrating for small amount of uncoordinated players to enjoy the event. Let's even say that somehow CEs start to work in a near future and we'll see cops attend it, even then the active player count is too low for this map to be considered as enjoyable.

My conclusion and verdict: Map is great, good work, but currently there are root problems which first need to be dealt with until players will enjoy the map. I don't vote anything, since this is a discussion not a poll.
Title: Re: [+++] New CE MBR (Military Base Raid) [MAPPED]
Post by: Arran on 16 04, 2021, 06:34:10 pm
- Added a new criminal event called Military Base Raid. (Farhan-Khan + JayXxX)