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Title: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 12 03, 2022, 09:02:08 am
I know most of you might just reject this idea by the title itself, But hear me out.

What is the point of jetpacks as gangsters if everyone just abusing it to stay above buildings or avoid death, Gangsters shouldn't be able to use jetpacks because it's just not right for them, as in LV gangsters aren't allowed to use jetpacks

I can give you Millons of videos showing how Jetpacks aren't doing any good to the community.   

Let's remove it and you'll see a lot of skillful fights/wars.

The dream.
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Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: T0Y-B0Y on 12 03, 2022, 09:07:00 am
let me mention that LS isn't like LV since Gangsters at LV only Turf while Gangsters in LS do many things. we know Jetpacks are getting abused in LS by gangsters but you can stop them from using it since some people do CnR activities while playing as gangsters maybe we can add restrictions like you can't go higher than 10 meters something like that but about your idea sadly I am going negative.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 12 03, 2022, 09:29:30 am
Well, How about /criminal.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: TheHacker on 12 03, 2022, 10:04:41 am
Well, How about /criminal.
Feel free to do that if such minority of an action pisses you off.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: odai on 12 03, 2022, 12:44:01 pm
Couldn't agree more there are no players on the ground anymore everyone just hold some fking weird place and camp there. :tick:
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: BirdBoy on 12 03, 2022, 01:03:02 pm
For LV only, or also outside LV?

What if outside LV, what about criminals?
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 12 03, 2022, 01:05:32 pm
For LV only, or also outside LV?

What if outside LV, what about criminals?

LV is already disabled, And we're talking about gangsters only. I don't have any problem with criminals.

Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: iiSpeeD'511 on 12 03, 2022, 01:12:12 pm
Well, I believe making this change wont hurt anyone since it's easy to do and easy to undo it, So let's try it because really fighting above buildings seems unfair to others who are pushing them, And I really hope /rt also been remove.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Thug on 12 03, 2022, 01:14:56 pm
I wish if I can record to show you how their style works, they're running with jetpack to get in any roof and then wait you until you get down to fight them and you die so easily cause they're starting shooting before you get on the floors, that's bullshit, I am Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Mitrok on 12 03, 2022, 01:20:54 pm
Well since jetpack is absolutely abused in LS for gangster turfs , I actually support this idea because of preventing roof fighting also preventing of running between turfs , Suppose if the jetpack restricted to criminals without being able to use by gangster that would be better for fights , at least to prevent roofs fights , I'm positive
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Rabbiilovey on 12 03, 2022, 02:13:46 pm
I believe it's disabled in LV for a reason, and should be the same outside, so it's Positive from me.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: RoMaNa on 12 03, 2022, 02:15:26 pm
Well these days jetpack is very annoying because gangs use it to climb over buildings and it's hard to kill them if they are more in number This is a good suggestion  positive :tick: It would be better to stop them for gangs but what if he changed the job to a criminal and went over a building and then transferred to the gang wouldn't be that an abuse?
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 12 03, 2022, 02:29:09 pm
Well these days jetpack is very annoying because gangs use it to climb over buildings and it's hard to kill them if they are more in number This is a good suggestion  positive :tick: It would be better to stop them for gangs but what if he changed the job to a criminal and went over a building and then transferred to the gang wouldn't be that an abuse?

He can't change to criminal and then move back to a gangster as he pleased because there is 8 seconds cooldown each time, Also there is an additional 20 seconds cooldown if you got damage.
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Being hurt in the last 20 seconds prevents you from doing this action (Go criminal or gangster)

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You are now a Criminal Gangster! No shooting allowed for 8 seconds.

And if he keeps changing criminal to gangster that is Abusing/Exploiting with or without the jetpacks.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Wish' on 12 03, 2022, 02:39:18 pm
well tbh jetpack is very annoying specially in gangster because they always climbing to buildings and its not good, also when they are turfing and you need to defend your turfs they will just use the jetpacks to escape or changing position by buildings and its very annoying. This suggestion is good and this will be a normal war when it comes to LS if no more jetpacks. So Positive. :tick:
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Feaxygen on 12 03, 2022, 03:07:00 pm
The gangster job are based on turfing , and jetpack is doing great in turfs for go next or rush for peoples , as far as I know gangster(s) are already can't touch any turfs on high places like StarTower or any high buildings etc. + most of gangster(s) are using jetpack for jump from hydra. Here is my thinks about jetpack so I am not supporting this idea at all then my vote is negative  :cros:
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 12 03, 2022, 03:12:23 pm
The gangster job are based on turfing , and jetpack is doing great in turfs for go next or rush for peoples , as far as I know gangster(s) are already can't touch any turfs on high places like StarTower or any high buildings etc. + most of gangster(s) are using jetpack for jump from hydra. Here is my thinks about jetpack so I am not supporting this idea at all then my vote is negative  :cros:

What do you mean by going next? you're talking like turfs are 1000m away from each other, And about can't touch any turf on high places, This is my point why in god name gangsters should fight in StarTower xD or some random roof. Ground did something wrong?
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: AlabasterSlim on 12 03, 2022, 04:40:48 pm
The feature exists for a reason. If you do not like the feature perhaps you should play as a criminal. I'm against the whole idea of the limitation.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: DarBka on 12 03, 2022, 05:07:53 pm
Thank you for opening this suggestion and mentioning this point. One of the main reasons why people are getting bored from LS wars is that people there are always abusing jetpacks everywhere. People flying around which makes shooting them hard. And I have to wait him till he comes down anytime. What kind of fight is that. I believe that If jetpacks got disabled, wars gonna be more enjoyable. Positive
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: RoMaNa on 12 03, 2022, 07:21:15 pm
He can't change to criminal and then move back to a gangster as he pleased because there is 8 seconds cooldown each time, Also there is an additional 20 seconds cooldown if you got damage.
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Being hurt in the last 20 seconds prevents you from doing this action (Go criminal or gangster)

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You are now a Criminal Gangster! No shooting allowed for 8 seconds.

And if he keeps changing criminal to gangster that is Abusing/Exploiting with or without the jetpacks.
Well, as long as the problem of changing between functions is solved before.  No problem,  positive  :tick: as above
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 12 03, 2022, 07:52:38 pm
The feature exists for a reason. If you do not like the feature perhaps you should play as a criminal. I'm against the whole idea of the limitation.
The feature exists before the turfs in LS, so light us with the reason. 🌚
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: AlabasterSlim on 12 03, 2022, 08:06:26 pm
The feature exists before the turfs in LS, so light us with the reason. 🌚

If the feature was not working as intendent it would have been disabled by default, by one of the moderators. Jetpack's is being used by the majority, in the community. Whether you're a gangster, criminal or a cop.
I do not find it reasonable adding a limit upon gangsters who is using the feature as a tactic in fights.

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If you do not like the feature perhaps you should play as a criminal.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: CJGIANNHS on 13 03, 2022, 02:08:44 am
Well as Romana said, someone will go easily criminal just to fly with jetpack to a roof and he will wait this 8 seconds to take the gangster job and start shoot u just for the troll.
Roof wars became so trolls with the jetpack.
Maybe someone will find a way to abuse it.
But only because I miss the old gangwars in the ground I will go positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: WooDy on 13 03, 2022, 04:51:37 am
Some players don't have access to VIP features and can't buy VIP hours for a few minutes playing as gangsters. This is not pay to win game. In addition to that, jetpack was disabled from LV to prevent donators from having an advantage over normal players. Therefore, disabling jetpack will provide fairness game. My vote is positive.
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: SuperSonic on 13 03, 2022, 10:03:52 am
I am voting positive  for this suggestion, as removing Jetpack access from gangsters would remove an advantage that is being used by more experienced players, that allows them to reach spots that you can't reach without a helicopter. this discourages a lot of new players when they get roof killed as soon as they leave the protected area. as well as not all CIT players can afford to buy VIP lvl 3 / VIP hours, so this leaves them at a disadvantage.

Thank you
SuperSonic
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: TwCafe on 13 03, 2022, 03:23:27 pm
14 positive, 3 negative votes. Marked as Low Priority.
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: daddy on 13 03, 2022, 05:38:59 pm
One time my group was turfing in LS and yeah for real we had zero fights on the ground, More like a jungle, Everyone just keeps flying over and over till his mates arrive or just keeps picking a higher place, We end it having a fight above some random tower. +1
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: XAwe on 13 03, 2022, 05:48:10 pm
To be honest, Everyone just say everything I would say so just gonna upvote this removal of jetpack.  :tick:
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: JetNix1 on 13 03, 2022, 05:55:45 pm
Positive  :tick:  the jetpack is so annoying if you want to fight someone he will keep Running or go High Build
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Madaus on 13 03, 2022, 06:01:24 pm
I have suggested this before, I really would like to support the idea because there's zero of ground fights and jetpack only used to ESCAPE OR TO GET ON SOME BUILDING AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE BUILDING so who ever disagree is ABUSING Jetpack.
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Apollo on 13 03, 2022, 06:03:07 pm
I was thinking about the same thing yesterday, I am not playing as gangster very often but that which I have realized is that jetpack becomes extremely abusable when someone uses it in order to troll others as gangster in turf wars, it should be the same like in LV for obvious reasons.
Going Positive.
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Ouchiee. on 13 03, 2022, 06:17:36 pm
Hello community, This idea is really gonna make the fights more enjoyable and fair since all new players just keep getting farmed because no one of this know this jetpacks abuse (Ppl flying 24/7).
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: B0B. on 13 03, 2022, 06:19:44 pm
I am voting positive for this suggestion the jetpack is so annoying we need to see skillful fights/wars
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Ghost. on 13 03, 2022, 08:08:58 pm
Would be great if you add this, it happens to me every time I fight as a gangster, gang wars are more like a jetpack race now, everyone uses jetpacks to avoid getting killed nowadays, casting my vote as positive.  :tick:
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Darwin97 on 13 03, 2022, 08:11:35 pm
Positive

Jetpack is really annoying and turf wars become who gets to X roof faster atleast now we'll have actual wars. I have been in wars for over a month now and every war is basically X group holding a roof and the other group has to keep using jetpacks to get up there and fight them and that's just bad because you no longer fight its just a numbers game at this point you have to outnumber your enemy then try to takeover.
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: wilbert on 13 03, 2022, 08:33:21 pm
Currently LS gang wars have become so annoying and boring, some groups just use this feature to fly to an edificie or high place and spawn busses/airplanes and camp there, others just use it to escape when you are defending a turf. Voting positive :tick:
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Thug on 13 03, 2022, 10:15:15 pm
Hey there,

Jetpack from LV was disabled for serval reasons and massive exploitation which means that won't be allowed in such a country. In LS there is not any abuse or such as there is already a countdown from the last hurt that prevents you from using jetpack anyways. I am not going to support it, especially for gangsters in LS because in wars, for example, Criminal Villa's roof needs the jetpack for sure or there will be a bunch of ppls holding MGs when you trying to get there, thus negative...
Hey, about the abuse it's abusive for sure like the people whose running to roofs then attack you with snipers/rifles and whenever you try to reach the roof before you touch the floor you'll be dead or at least attacked by them and you won't be able to kill them at all, so it's abuse, why we don't fight in the ground? why we don't fight like men instead of running and standing in roofs to spawn huge planes to disturb and exploit people? also about the duration that you get whenever you get damaged, you right they won't be able to use jetpack for 10 seconds but they keep running until the 10 sec pass to use jetpack and run so where is the fun here? Just think about it and you'll know that it's annoying..  Thanks
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Kevv on 13 03, 2022, 10:20:19 pm
Very good idea, it's boring that you go to kill someone and start running through structures and then jetpack away.. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Madaus on 13 03, 2022, 10:30:04 pm
Hey there,

Jetpack from LV was disabled for serval reasons and massive exploitation which means that won't be allowed in such a country. In LS there is not any abuse or such as there is already a countdown from the last hurt that prevents you from using jetpack anyways. I am not going to support it, especially for gangsters in LS because in wars, for example, Criminal Villa's roof needs the jetpack for sure or there will be a bunch of ppls holding MGs when you trying to get there, thus negative...

its abuseable already, and who ever uses it just to get on the building or ESCAPING As MOST PLAYERS , and you just mentioned criminal villa thing, that doesn't make any sense did you just forgot the Vehicles You just voted Negative just because you just use it for this stuff and the players who voted negative is a player who use jetpack to run 24/7 hours.
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Thug on 13 03, 2022, 10:43:44 pm
Alright so, let's assume there is a "Gang War" on East Prison Release. After a while this gang war is still going, it will rarely happen to get on roofs because you need to teleport somewhere else, spawn hydra then get on the roof. If "me" in this example did this action while there is a gang war going on, I can defend my "Gang Side" very easily by sniping them from up and such that's just annoying because sometimes you will have to give it a lot of time just to get on that roof and later maybe you will kill him or get killed, etc. At Criminal Villa as I said, it will be just a dream to get on the roof of CV because people on there can simply handle miniguns/country riffles and take you down in less than 3-4 seconds, it's clear how annoying it will be and you will just have starting alliance/group countdowns just to get on that roof. This does more harm than good. Related to that "10 seconds pass" and you can use jetpack again after being hurt, we can simply suggest reducing the current Jetpack Prevent countdown from 10 seconds to 20, am I clear?
Reducing? you mean Increasing I think, anyway, if we increased the time to get jetpack after being shooted it will be worse and useless as fuck but if we removed it at all everything gonna be fine cause we will prevent everyone from using it also the planes exploits and Coach's will not be useable cause it will be considered as Abuse/Exploit and Blocking the streets, that's way much better for everyone to stop doing that, why we run to roofs then help our members/friends, you can't fight in grounds? what is the hard on that.. am I clear?
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 13 03, 2022, 10:48:52 pm
I am not going to repeat the same bullshit over and over, how do you judge the voters are the ones who "abuse"  jetpack? Just read what I said please, there are else things that can be reduced instead of "disabling" the feature directly without even thinking about something else that is possible to fix it all.
When you request the delay time on the jetpack, You're aware that jetpacks aren't balanced and are being abused. 20Seconds is nothing since the person will just keep running till it reaches 20 and spawn the jet again.

Jetpacks is an abusable tool that gangster must not use it.

@TwCafe 28 positive.

edit: https://streamable.com/vlq3qd two mins ago.  :fp:
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Thug on 13 03, 2022, 10:57:21 pm
You're trying to correct my English when yours is worse, if you read the whole sentence of mine it should be "reducing" instead of "increasing". How can you prevent everybody when the ram or spawning vehicles on the roof are not punishable already? What are u talking duh? You surely know who are the ones who fight with "Planes Spawning/ Ramming on the roof" and telling me "you can't fight on grounds", enough bullshit, please...
You're funny.. it's discussion board so you have to discuss things instead of voting negative cause of personal problems..  grow up and give us a valid reason of why you're negative or do not vote at all..  pathetic
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Fran[k] on 13 03, 2022, 11:02:03 pm
I agree with this suggestion as a gangster you shouldn't use it, It will give LS wars a better experience.
and if you want to use it you can just do /criminal +upvoting
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: CoPe. on 14 03, 2022, 12:56:50 am
I don't think it's necessary to remove it, if someone is on the building, you can go up there too, no one can use the jetpack for 10 seconds since it was hit. So I think it is not necessary to remove and that everyone can kill another from anywhere.
To put it this way, LV Gangsters and LS Gangsters are a big difference. So there is no need to change. In LS, you also have the police who can bother gangsters. And the police are allowed to use jetpacks ... My opinion is that it should stay like this, because it is fair for both gangsters and others.
Btw: Anyone can climb on the roof of a building with a helicopter or a plane ... So it will be the same.
My vote is  :cros:
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: TwCafe on 14 03, 2022, 02:05:28 am
explains all lol  :tick:
good idea - positive :tick:
Considered as useless posts and removed.
@Dottie @murkyatikor state anything when voting.

26 positive, 5 negative votes. Marked as High Priority.
Title: Re: [++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 14 03, 2022, 08:15:02 am
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I don't think it's necessary to remove it, if someone is on the building, you can go up there too, no one can use the jetpack for 10 seconds since it was hit. So I think it is not necessary to remove and that everyone can kill another from anywhere.
To put it this way, LV Gangsters and LS Gangsters are a big difference. So there is no need to change. In LS, you also have the police who can bother gangsters. And the police are allowed to use jetpacks ... My opinion is that it should stay like this, because it is fair for both gangsters and others.
Btw: Anyone can climb on the roof of a building with a helicopter or a plane ... So it will be the same.
My vote is  :cros:
I Disagree, First of all how police can bother the gangsters?
helicopters or plane takes a long time and can't be spawned in the middle of a war as easily as you guys seem to think, You don't see a guy in the middle of 5/6 players spawning a hydra or a maverick to fly it straight  (https://streamable.com/vlq3qd)towers the clouds.

To be honest, I don't blame you since you're not a gangster. but I hope you understand the point.
Title: Re: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Pythh on 14 03, 2022, 08:59:17 am
I agree with your opinion. This is a very frustrating event, they open the jetpack in the middle of the war and run away, and this spoils the fun of the war and turns me off from the game. As you said, if the jetpacks are removed, the battles will be more enjoyable in LS. Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: AdNaN on 14 03, 2022, 10:08:43 am
I know most of you might just reject this idea by the title itself, But hear me out.

What is the point of jetpacks as gangsters if everyone just abusing it to stay above buildings or avoid death, Gangsters shouldn't be able to use jetpacks because it's just not right for them, as in LV gangsters aren't allowed to use jetpacks.

I can give you Millons of videos showing how Jetpacks aren't doing any good to the community.   

Let's remove it and you'll see a lot of skillful fights/wars.

thx mate, for this suggestion. To be honest, this thing is annoying, especially when you get into a fight with another person and he uses a jetpack, which affects the game experience and affects the players. I'm positive  :tick: about that, I hope they act on this topic or add cooldown at least
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 14 03, 2022, 10:50:48 am
Exactly.

There is no reason to restrict gangsters from using jetpack in LS, this would be just stupid. It is also unfair when 10 groups are working against 2 and there is surely no fair fight to that but nobody talks of it, so jetpack ain't really the problem.

How disabling jetpack gonna be unfair? Explain your self please
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Krsha on 14 03, 2022, 11:24:18 am
I love gangster wars but more in LS because i'm not that good but jetpack is ruining the fun, all the players use it for the roofs or escaping and not fun.

positive
Title: Re: Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 14 03, 2022, 11:29:59 am
I didn't say it's going to be unfair, When I actually mentioned unfairness I was only quoting your post. Excuse me for the misunderstanding tho.
I just don't get why would you have to strict gangsters from being able to use jetpack, I understand your point but it's still usable for too many people. Even tho you mentioned LV, the gameplay in these 2 cities is way different, ls gangsters surely need the jetpack, there is nothing wrong with using it and there is nothing wrong with people fighting from roofs. Although, if someone is really interested in taking over via roofs and such, this won't really help as he will surely find the way to do it. The usage of the jetpack is important for any type of player in LS, you also earn time and you have less risk of someone damaging your car and fucking you up. So, the jetpack is something that could actually boost someone when he is getting outnumbered, that's what I believe.
Let's take outnumbered, for example, Let's say you're on the roof they will just easily use the jetpack and take you down, But when jetpacks are disabled you have a chance to take their planes down, and let's be real we're fighting above towers because it's easy to reach it with jetpacks, No one gonna stay above tower if jetpack is disabled.

Fighting above towers like monkies IS NOT a play style.

What is the difference between LS and LV gangsters? light me up, please. Because afaik they both have binds/turfs/claiming.
The only difference is Lv is a bit faster and jetpacks are disabled.

NOTE: By the way, the moment Arran hear us out and do this update I'll request that turfing above the building will not be available

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Title: Re: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: 9R on 14 03, 2022, 11:54:04 am
@TwCafe this guy (https://cit.gg/index.php?action=profile;u=86698) just keeps posting the same shit over and over. and he just double posted. Can u please remove his posts since he just makes the topic seems dramatic while there are only 4 negatives? Thanks and sorry for the mention.

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U can delete this post also.
Title: Re: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Al3raB on 14 03, 2022, 12:04:00 pm
I used to play everyday in 2021 as gangsters, Fighting groups and etc.
But yeah I can agree with my friend @9R About this removal of jetpacks because this is main issue and to be honest I didn't think that you can request to remove it till he told me about it yesterday and I was surprised. So please yeah remove it and let's have some fairness and enjoyable game please. Thanks.  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Abuklil511 on 14 03, 2022, 05:04:31 pm
It gonna be good idea for the new gagnster groups to turf without someone shooting at them from above  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Danube501 on 14 03, 2022, 07:44:22 pm
Disabling jet pack for LS gangsters will help balance the wars a bit and avoid fighting on top of buildings Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++]Disable jetpack as gangster
Post by: Arran on 14 03, 2022, 08:28:23 pm
This would harm gangsters that aren't turfing so:

- LS turfs can't be captured if you used a jetpack in your current lifetime. (Arran + 9R)


Reverted due to:

Arran the update you did gonna make it even harder for gangsters because trollers (enemy groups) gonna just call their alliance to camp the roof and they will fight us on the street, And we won't be able to defend the gangsters above the roof because we would have to be respawned in able to turf again.

New update:

- Gangster team can't use jetpack in the main dimension. (Arran + 9R)