[+++] Getting 150k reward when you get APB and when you killed APB

[Timbery]

As an actively serving head police chief for years, I have witnessed many absurd situations regarding the CnR system. Starting by having criminals who used to abuse the system by entering Las Venturas with extremely high wanted levels as an attempt to prevent the law enforcement to kill them... doing a countless amount of laps on the highways (annoying everybody) either until their vehicle gets blown up by an airstrike or runs out of fuel. As we know, LV is not a place meant for CnR activities because the gameplay in that city is completely chaotic and explosions are also activated and this leads to additional issues... Luckily, Arran resolved this problem by restricting high wanted criminals from entering in there back in 2020.
And ending up with individuals, that consciously team stack at dead time zones (for example, in the hours after midnight and until late morning), just for the sake of earning the meaningless APB. Their actions are causing the cops to be quitting the server or rather avoid being on duty in the morning hours. Not for once, I have seen cops switching to criminals and joining in the robberies instead of resisting them because of the fact they were outnumbered.

On another hand, Shyina clarified the most regular case which is happening nowadays in a very brief and simple way.

There is no point in awarding certain individuals with additional payment for driving from one AR/CE/store robbery to another one while most of them are just avoiding to engage in fire fights... Just for the protocol, I as a SO and a member of one law group, have been witnessing criminals to team stack intentionally at some "less" active time zones where cops have basically no chance to prevent the criminals from becoming APBs.

Neither cops deserve to get a higher arrest reward, whenever you jail an APB - you regularly earn 50k and if you are above 50th police level, the payment increases to 60k. Negative.

Criminals are almost always driving from one AR to another, avoiding fighting with cops outside any massive events. Most ridiculously, whenever they arrive at the next event, they begin the robbery and remain idle at a certain location until the robbery is finished. (once again bypassing the cops unless the police team doesn't manage to storm inside the building)
So basically, here is the list of what is happening usually ingame:
Drive from AR to another one -> join the CE -> win the CE as a criminal due to the constant re-entry system that helps criminals mainly, because they outnumber cops most of the time -> head to the next AR -> repeat until you don't get killed as criminal

The APB lost its meaning a long time ago as it turned into something that people grind for. Back in the days, it used to be issued by the PC team to dangerous criminals who are truly deserving it. (one of the few left ones is Shogun)

Moreover, I highly doubt if an increment of the payment of any of the sides is required as both ones are well paid, even if that is under the form of additional payment whenever you reach or arrest an APB. Criminals earn from 30k to 40k just by completing an AR and take into consideration that some of them may rob the event twice. In the meantime, there are cops that barely may get any kills/money in any ARs due to getting KS'ed.

[R2003]

Im not discussing about how APB got abused, You are not always the one who kill APB everytime, if you know that you can't kill him them its better to ignore and wait for your side to get crack. There is an earnlimit that limit criminals/cops to get more money if they get/killed APB many times, and as my experienced its too hard to get APB even if there are less cops because there are also some cops that are on duty and trying hard to kill high WL criminals. Be like Lucifer, he is the only PC I know that is most motivated to kill APB even if it's too hard and he didnt even mind how many forces that he got.

[Myth.]

Why would anybody deserve to earn APB status if all he does is what Timbery stated below?

So basically, here is the list of what is happening usually ingame:
Drive from AR to another one -> join the CE -> win the CE as a criminal due to the constant re-entry system that helps criminals mainly, because they outnumber cops most of the time -> head to the next AR -> repeat until you don't get killed as criminal

You are not always the one who kill APB everytime, if you know that you can't kill him them its better to ignore and wait for your side to get crack. There is an earnlimit that limit criminals/cops to get more money if they get/killed APB many times

Earnlimit's purpose is different, it exists to prevent players from gaining tons of money within several minutes but is not only limited to that. It is also used in cases where there are overpaid jobs. Regarding the rest of your post, how are you suggesting to "resolve" an obvious issue...? By neglecting it even more and rather becoming part of it, thus includes promoting it?

Players already earn more than enough and can't spend their money anywhere as cops and criminals. Even though, that the reward is not that big, it is just unnecessary and wouldn't be deserved in my opinion. Several APBs may be earned within 1 hour by multiple criminals if they are working as a team and are protecting each other. As far as I heard from one previous criminal boss, criminals are solo players. The majority of the criminals tend to be in robberies and attend at events alone which leads to serious issues related to team trust and teamwork.
The payment which is being suggested here won't have any significant change over the gameplay of any of the sides in my opinion.

[Axe]

So basically, here is the list of what is happening usually ingame:
Drive from AR to another one -> join the CE -> win the CE as a criminal due to the constant re-entry system that helps criminals mainly, because they outnumber cops most of the time -> head to the next AR -> repeat until you don't get killed as criminal

idk what u talking about, but the 'basic' plan you said is hard to do, If you're a criminal It's hard to escape from an AR to another unless you're skilled and know the basic skills and the required time to escape etc... cops are always focusing on on the highest wanted level, so idk what u say and btw, nowadays I see cops cracking CnR activities more than criminals and the re-entry system helpes both sides not just criminals, just wanted to point out that.

[R2003]

So basically, here is the list of what is happening usually ingame:
Drive from AR to another one -> join the CE -> win the CE as a criminal due to the constant re-entry system that helps criminals mainly, because they outnumber cops most of the time -> head to the next AR -> repeat until you don't get killed as criminal

OUTNUMBERED MOST OF THE TIME? Roflmao, do you hear yourself? Even your subbordinates getting crack and waiting outside the CE to finish, if they want to win the then they must go inside even if they are outnumbered you are a chief you have the commands. Even lucifer can go solo rush and killed APBs I really have massive respect to him.

Earnlimit's purpose is different, it exists to prevent players from gaining tons of money within several minutes but is not only limited to that.

Not most of the time they get APB. The earnlimit can still be reset after a minutes/hour.

Several APBs may be earned within 1 hour by multiple criminals if they are working as a team and are protecting each other.

Try to come online and go criminal, i'll help you to get APB and let see if you can say that APB can earn within 1 hour without cop. Cop kill is the most easy way to get high WL compare to robbing store(except AR) as I experienced everytime I rob it only gives me few WL and if you rob twice it will not give anymore.

[RealFunky]

As a criminal I really love this idea, they will grind harder to get the top 1 for their group!. 

[Soul]

It's a nice idea and I like it very much so yeah, I will go for positive

[Ouchiee.]

I like this idea it helps me to grind more and motivate me to get more RPs and increase my crim lvl. 

[Perfe]

I like this idea it has a feature for both sides and not only in one side. Im upvote 

[Mazenolla]

Everytime.

I think it should just be an achievement because getting 150k is too much when the earning limit is 500k (crims) and 600k (cops) which is around a quarter of the limit for both. Getting an APB is not that hard as a criminal especially when there are too many criminals where they just farm WL by robbing stores, doing ARs and CEs. So, earning 150k will be too much in my opinion, plus that will make a cop get 200k on a cop which is a third of their earning limit.

Negative.

[fr3o0on]

It's good idea, I like that because that will encourage them to focus on APB both sides law and criminal since it's hard to get APB nowdays so adding this will encourage the officers to join the APB fight and the criminals to get APB 

[FratBoy]

As a cop I really like this idea,since im an APB killer I have some new motivation to slay some high wanted criminals. im 

[SqueX]

So you kill a most wanted player why you not get a payment? or You've been robbing stores for a long time without dying and reaching APB Why don't you get a payment? Afaik Although I'm not proficient to Law side but if you killed a criminal it paying to you 50K at most, Correct me if I'm wrong but I think 150K is too much how about 75K or 100K?

50-75k is so low even cop can earn that in 2 kills with high wanted criminals.

So if it's 100 or 75k you can earn it in a kill is it not?

and I have a question if You Have Been An APB Doesn't It Pay You 100K At The End Of The Day? Or if you jailed an APB Doesn't Pay 100K? It probably pays, but if it does not pays, I say no need to add that. Neutral until answer.

[R2003]

So you kill a most wanted player why you not get a payment? or You've been robbing stores for a long time without dying and reaching APB Why don't you get a payment? Afaik Although I'm not proficient to Law side but if you killed a criminal it paying to you 50K at most, Correct me if I'm wrong but I think 150K is too much how about 75K or 100K?
So if it's 100 or 75k you can earn it in a kill is it not?

and I have a question if You Have Been An APB Doesn't It Pay You 100K At The End Of The Day? Or if you jailed an APB Doesn't Pay 100K? It probably pays, but if it does not pays, I say no need to add that. Neutral until answer.

I dont really understand what you say but most of the time 1 cop cannot kill multiple APBs in a day. And it so impossible these days.

[Raef]

Who would say no to free money when cops are literally outnumbered? Let me explain.

This morning, I have logged in and my groupmate has asked me to check F5 and to my surprise, it was full of 3 APB (including a criminal who has had 1930 WPs and later on managed to get 2170 WPs before directly getting killed by me (https://i.imgur.com/jLwqzcJ.png)) along with many other high wanted suspects (475+ WPs)

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. After clicking on TAB, I was once again shocked because there were 8 cops ONLINE. Not on-duty or contributing in clearing the field, just ONLINE (refer to the same screenshots above and count the On Duty Units). Therefore, let's assume only 3 were AFK if not even more, what do you expect us to do when we are 5 cops against 20 crims? And to make it look "fair", you have decided to "shut law side's mouth" by suggesting giving us 150k as a "reward" if we managed to kill those APBs who are basically abusing such timezones (all of this happened at 6 AM, GMT+1).
No thanks, I'll personally pass, not to mention that the payment is already fine for both sides.

Negative.