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Title: [Brian] Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Dredd on 02 09, 2020, 08:38:50 pm: I would like an update command for group leaders where you will be able to see CIT activity panel only for your own group.

This way it will be easier to monitor the activity of your group.

I think now only staff can use it because of this Brian's post on group profiles.

https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=344360.msg5300737#msg5300737

It could be like /gcap and the output will be top green text of your group's stats, like "AVG: *** mins - Days counted: *** - Total mins: ***"

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(If it's too much work it could be added us a free to public command where you will see all the info of all your groups, it doesn't seem very right though.)
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: BlackBear on 02 09, 2020, 10:54:51 pm: what will u get for monitoring ur group activity? nothing, basically the GLMs see if ur group activity is close enough to the groups
which have the same level as urs if it was below the average then u will get a warning. I think that how it works so having access to ur own group activity is useless.
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Infernogates on 02 09, 2020, 11:52:28 pm: Add group members into that panel in addition to your suggestion and then it'd be actually more useful for group leaders :thumb: Also SAPD is the only group that doesn't need that because we actually got a web application (http://test.grile-drept.ro/backup-app/#/profile/68722) that tracks members and group's total playtime hours ;)
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Hanns on 03 09, 2020, 12:09:14 am: Yes, in my point of view, this suggestion is kinda useful for the group leaders as the exact logging time isn't well counted in F6 - Groups and didn't give you the exact time. But i'm suggesting if this feature gets added for semi official groups +. So at least they could be aware of their members if they are logging daily or NO and how much minutes/hours he stayed online. I'm totally supporting your idea. Positive
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Mukhtar on 03 09, 2020, 09:29:12 am: I was thinking of suggesting the same idea as it will be useful tool for the leaders of groups in terms of maintaining the group activity. But, imo it was better if we added these information to "Group Members" panel in F6 instead of creating a separate panel for this. We already have "Group Members" in F6 Group Panel. The suggested details can be added there where we can see every other detail of members. We already see for how long members were online so instead of that we can have for low long they've been active which is a more useful information.

I vote positive anyways as access to such information is very helpful for group leaders.
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Nepenthe on 03 09, 2020, 05:31:52 pm: I saw that panel in the mentioned topic months ago when it first started getting our playtime. And I immediately said '' I wish we could check this thing ''. I saw a comment says '' What are you gonna do with it it is useless glm enough...'' well I'm totally against it because checking our own group activity helps your morale when you see high numbers. But when you see the low number you would say '' Ah that number isn't enough I need to talk with my members and get more! '' or you watch that panel to see your improvements. My vote is positive and I want to add one thing which is missing '' -/gcap '' must be only for L3 s because the panel only counts L3+ Groups. :tick:
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: UncleDrew on 03 09, 2020, 09:47:28 pm: It will be useful for groups above L5 because activity is an important criterion in the promote of L5 + groups.Before the application, the activity will be checked and sent from here, just like the / gmp command.This will prevent groups that do not receive accept for the level from making excuses.Positive
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: TheGam3r23 on 03 09, 2020, 10:02:48 pm: This seems like a waste of time, group leaders already know which members are active and which are inactive, there is no need for this panel to be accessible to them. Even in large groups with many members the leaders can keep track of the activity of the members ( at least on well organized groups), even if you aren't a leader and just a member you have a basic idea of the activity of your group-mates. However, the idea of having access to this panel and the exact hours seems nice. I'll go with neutral for now
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: SupraO7 on 04 09, 2020, 11:11:28 pm: ok all we know that will help the group leader to know if they got active or not people as y cant know if a guy log 5min after reconnect the F6 > Group Members will say 5min today so wish it gets added for L3 + gangs just to prove there activity as they need it more than lower level gangs
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Infernogates on 05 09, 2020, 01:55:32 am: And what stops group leaders to promote, demote, kick members their way? I mean they can just do what they want with their group, they can free invite a 0H player and promote them to Leader for all I care. And now you're coming here asking to make a stats window (that was designated to help an administrated community team known as GLMs to help them decide whether or not a group is performing well because they are a small team and they just can't watch over all of the groups' activities) public to other community members. For the sole purpose of ...
Quote from: Dredd on 02 09, 2020, 08:38:50 pm
This way it will be easier to monitor the activity of your group

I'm sorry but if you can't watch over the activity of some members in your group then I don't know what to say but of course I understand that you want to lead your group by example and award your members rightfully. So I must mention that CIT already lets you see "who's online right now" via this page (https://cit.gg/index.php?page=players). So if you're good with coding you can read that page via a program per x seconds or minute and store your group members' playtime hours into your database, which SAPD already does for a long time :thumb:

If you're all interested in this kind of program I can make a merchant topic under business board so you can request one from me
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: iCrazyCat on 05 09, 2020, 10:56:31 am: I agree partly in this topic .First of all ,it will make leaders find all the members that deserve a promotion or demote way faster .Secondly ,when you reconnect your hours won’t be reset (on F6) .Therefore they will know that you have played 8H etc not 2H.
But in the other had ,it doesn’t really take that time of your day to check out your group activity there is tons of ways to figure out if your group is active .
Anyway ,nothing more to add my vote is Positive :tick: ,good luck with future votes !
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: BoSs on 05 09, 2020, 11:23:38 am: I agree a lot with this, because he will help the leaders, He will explain everything easily to them, He will explain to them, who is loyal and who is active and it will be easy to place promotions for those who deserve it, I'll vote Positive.
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Ths on 05 09, 2020, 03:51:31 pm: Hello, Good day!

This would be totally useful for those group leader to check daily activity, maintain the group reputation to prevent getting warned or punishment by staff and also this suggestion is totally useful especially in the civilian side because leaders can improve the group's activity and I can't see any harm or disadvantage on this suggestion, so I'm going to give :tick: Goodluck with the other votes buddy.
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Brian on 05 09, 2020, 05:52:48 pm: This will work only if the output is about your group. Because some groups tend to watch what others do and criticize too much.
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Forager on 05 09, 2020, 05:58:29 pm: This isn't bad because the one that can be seen is your own group. Groups still have privacy on their own data. In this idea, group leaders has the information of their own group so they know their own activity if they are active or not. Also, for being transparent about this, leaders won't complain for if there will be a judgement for their group. In a long term, if a certain group is preparing for future promotion, they will be aware if they complied with the requirements before applying. Positive.
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Dredd on 06 09, 2020, 06:10:53 am: Quote from: Brian on 05 09, 2020, 05:52:48 pm
This will work only if the output is about your group. Because some groups tend to watch what others do and criticize too much.

Yeah I was thinking just output your group's line as a top message. I just mentioned accessing all the panel if code filtering was much a trouble for you, I agree that you should only see your own group stats (It's like GDPR thing)
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Diamond on 09 09, 2020, 10:44:56 am: After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 10 positive votes.
- 0 negative votes.

The topic will remain as neutral priority until next review.
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Emre on 10 09, 2020, 08:19:13 am: Well as Brian said '' This will work only if the output is about your group. '' well I totally agree because some people always try to find bad sides of every group and adding this like that would make this a tool for them. Well I saw this panel when Brian first posted it and it had only counted 3 days I'm still curios that how much did we get later that month etc..So I just want to add one more thing to this suggestion if it's possible we should add the first months that counted to the panel like '' Old Months Section '' to see your group's improvement or reduction and make some moves to prevent it. My vote is Positive even if we can't add the Old Months Section. :tick:
Title: Re: Group leaders will have partial access to CIT activity panel
Post by: Arthur. on 10 09, 2020, 02:23:01 pm: I think this would be good as Sometimes groups that are trying to keep their activities stable inorder to apply for promotion will be able to check if they're doing good or bad, This would basically allow them to keep track of everything but I agree with Brian, It should be only about your group because it's obviously some groups might try to criticize others that have less activity points than their own. Positive