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Title: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Zuvich on 07 09, 2021, 12:25:00 pm
Greetings,

I'm pretty sure a lot of players are already sick of the guard feature we currently have, which has pretty much ruined the whole combat system somehow. I would like to suggest either nerfing the feature even more or completely disabling it for gangsters for the time being. This poll (https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=328923.15) right here clearly shows how annoying the guard feature is. Furthermore, a lot of players suggested its removal countless times but apparently, Brian just doesn't get how this feature has made the game unbalanced, especially in gangster fights. The feature is consistently being abused by a bunch of L9 group losers who can't even imagine fighting without having the advantage of guards.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBYBR0HkT1Y
Here's a video showing how broken the guard feature is, lol. Despite all the nerfing which has been made, it's still extremely irritating.


Here's a few clips recorded by a friend showing how guards have made gangster PvP worse.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCWcUsAX5N4
https://youtu.be/2SkiEu1gEOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmZFQiJTsls
https://streamable.com/kzvqii
https://streamable.com/gq2c3b
https://streamable.com/wob30s
https://streamable.com/b5n9l8


Their damage is quite insane and literally, every second kill on the clips is being made by guards. It's nothing else but a disgrace to the combat system.


A good solution to this issue is disabling guards for gangsters and making it accessible to Cops and criminals only, as it was initially implemented for CnR (to balance the number) and I don't quite see a reason for having it for gangsters as it's a whole different competitive side.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Madama on 08 09, 2021, 08:20:11 am
Well.. I think it's pointless because it's already been suggested a 1000 times and has been denied.
This was rejected because it is a perk of groups that have been promoting and raising the level for many years. But I still don't understand.. Why is the entire server suffering because of these groups? Why do players complain about this, ask to remove but everyone doesn't care?
I personally know a few people who left the server because of the destruction of CnR on the server.. You're already losing players. Why don't you listen to the players? All of these ideas are obvious and make sense to it. These guards are only a hindrance to PvP and set our ass on fire. I'm sorry, but that's my eloquentness.
 Am I wrong? Am I right! Obviously, one player will not be able to kill another who has the ability to spawn the guard. It's almost unreal..
 I will always vote positively for such suggestions.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: MarK on 08 09, 2021, 08:31:00 am
Just get rid of this garbage script already. It was intended to be used by newbies and instead is being fully exploited by losers who hasn't learned the game after 10 years. It has also been nerfed countless times and is still the most frustrating thing to grace this server.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: SupraO7 on 08 09, 2021, 08:51:28 am
I have a better idea from removing it just add an time like 10minutes per guard as I see 1 group is that abusing the guard system and itd called chaosguardians they have bind T/guard in W and they spawn it every time the see a gangster turfing in ls its good perk but need some updates
Btw am positive on that
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: TheHacker on 08 09, 2021, 09:39:37 am
This topic has no purpose in this board whatsoever as it's basically people complaining about a feature without a valid reason other than some videos showing how they kept dying in a fight and put the blame on guards when there were several people shooting them at once. The whole purpose of this board is to SUGGEST RADICAL CHANGES, not to complain about a certain feature. I don't see any suggestion here other than removing the whole feature itself for no other reason than it being 'OP' when no one cares to explain in which aspect it's over-powered. MARK himself said that the feature has been nerfed several times, so there should be no reason for the topic author or anyone else to complain about it. Arran's words describe this topic the best.
Quote from: Arran
radical ideas not radical rants
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: FalconHawk on 08 09, 2021, 09:54:10 am
What about restricting it only for players below 100 hours of playtime? So both experienced players who suffer from this feature and newbies who sometimes need a guard around them could be happy.


Also this is a suggestion, not a radical idea.  ^-^
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Farhan on 08 09, 2021, 10:07:17 am
This topic has no purpose in this board whatsoever as it's basically people complaining about a feature without a valid reason other than some videos showing how they kept dying in a fight and put the blame on guards when there were several people shooting them at once. The whole purpose of this board is to SUGGEST RADICAL CHANGES, not to complain about a certain feature. I don't see any suggestion here other than removing the whole feature itself for no other reason than it being 'OP' when no one cares to explain in which aspect it's over-powered. MARK himself said that the feature has been nerfed several times, so there should be no reason for the topic author or anyone else to complain about it. Arran's words describe this topic the best.
These are actually asking for radical changes since most of people left server because of this unrealistic pvp gameplay here.. The feature has been abused multiple times which is offending and obstructing players gameplay, basically ruining the whole combat system of the game and he mentioned an issue and came with a logical solution too.
The main purpose this feature was added for basically newbies and cops/crims with outnumbered team to actually get the chance to play with fair advantages but what he suggested it It’s removal as gangster which seems quite logical since it was never added for this purpose at first place nor it make any sense as a gangster as it’s basically a fight between 2 groups for a particular turf so it’s making no sense giving one group an advantage over other by giving such feature which could be abused like he said in gangster fights and giving unfair advantage to the guard users with it’s excessive use which is actually making people really annoyed and frustrated and eventually let them leave because pvp fights here are so fucked up because of these unfair advantages.
And this is a RADICAL Idea to improve the current system and it’s  highlighting a great issue which made a lot of people leave server because of unfair combat system with a proper solution provided..
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Madama on 08 09, 2021, 10:13:40 am
This topic has no purpose in this board whatsoever as it's basically people complaining about a feature without a valid reason other than some videos showing how they kept dying in a fight and put the blame on guards when there were several people shooting them at once. The whole purpose of this board is to SUGGEST RADICAL CHANGES, not to complain about a certain feature. I don't see any suggestion here other than removing the whole feature itself for no other reason than it being 'OP' when no one cares to explain in which aspect it's over-powered. MARK himself said that the feature has been nerfed several times, so there should be no reason for the topic author or anyone else to complain about it. Arran's words describe this topic the best.
Some players leave this server just because of these guards. "As I mentioned above". Isn't that the reason for you? I don't know what you mean "No one cares to explain in which aspect it's OP.. Lol. A lot of evidence has been shown about how annoying it is and doesn't need to CIT at all. You just insert your five cents.

Im sorry about this but I can't see how people says absurd things and lie to themselves.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: zoldyck on 08 09, 2021, 01:08:17 pm
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852671199249956945/883663893359099944/image0.png)

Supporting this, since fighting stacked 0 quality groups and with guards is no fun, also with the new changes in GLM rules any group could reach L8 in some months, so this better get removed  ::)
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: seba on 08 09, 2021, 03:28:04 pm
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852671199249956945/883663893359099944/image0.png)

Supporting this, since fighting stacked 0 quality groups and with guards is no fun, also with the new changes in GLM rules any group could reach L8 in some months, so this better get removed  ::)


Man, you posted a screenshot from 5 months ago  :cringe:.



I'm supporting this since the feature has ruined ls wars. It's so fucking annoying fighting with groups that even while having 32 players online still using this shit.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: sK1NN on 08 09, 2021, 04:44:03 pm
The funny thing is the same clowns from the same side are the ones who keep suggesting these setuffs just to help their side ,  so these guys basically go inactive after gettinf beat up every single day in the past year after free invting 50 member just to win a war but ofc they cant first thing that comes in their minds gUaRdS oP Af oMFg , man accept the fact that u lack quality and suggest something usueful rather than crying all day about a feature that u can get if u work ur ass off to l8 not crying after losing bunch of wars even if u had some cheaters that I believe they are playing now cause they have no life and dont resign then u would have the same advantage of the iNsaNe gUarD dAmAGe  just like any other l8 group
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Prof.Gang on 08 09, 2021, 05:14:20 pm
I think some people tryhard complaining almost as much as they can, rather than trying to win that badass group  :kek2:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852671199249956945/883663893359099944/image0.png)

Funny how you can’t maintain quality nor quantity against a group  :kek:



Man, you posted a screenshot from 5 months ago  :cringe:.
This poll (https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=328923.15) right here clearly shows how annoying the guard feature is.

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10 11, 2018, 11:20:46 am »

Sorry im stuck at empathizing with your first world problems. :kek4: :kek5:
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: elektro on 08 09, 2021, 05:36:37 pm
I do not know why you are trying to provoke people here. If you think that you are playing well, then you will not lose anything if you remove the guards.

Group lvls and donat has never affected the gameplay, that's why we love this server. After added these guards. It has become simply impossible to play against people with guards, it just annoy and pushes away from pvp content.

I have a lot of friends who don't like LV binds and they played LS until the moment when L8 groups began to actively use and abuse the guards system. As I have already said, it just annoy me up and pushes me away to continue playing here.

What about  "L8" is easy to get... Are you serious, man?
Imagine you and your friends went to play on the server and you are simply destroyed by the guys with guards. you are not enough experienced so also players with guards are against you. to get the same privilege (i mean L8), you need to play actively for a whole year and get stress from players with guards.

It's funny to watch how players who have this privilege just joking here and think that this is normal

proof about abuse guards in save zone

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBYBR0HkT1Y&ab_channel=Elektro1337
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Zuvich on 08 09, 2021, 05:43:23 pm
Sorry im stuck at empathizing with your first world problems. :kek4: :kek5:
Still doesn't change the fact that half of the server is against the feature
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: sK1NN on 08 09, 2021, 06:08:29 pm
/settings vote disable guards  yes = problem solved no ?   :)
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: elektro on 08 09, 2021, 06:20:29 pm
/settings vote disable guards  yes = problem solved no ?   :)

We have a lot of laws groups that will not give up this feature just like you guys. And the new players don't even know about this in settings
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Prof.Gang on 08 09, 2021, 06:29:03 pm
Still doesn't change the fact that half of the server is against the feature
If half of the server is against this feature then how did we manage to use it, why it is not disabled? :what:
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Slow on 08 09, 2021, 06:34:36 pm
If half of the server is against this feature then how did we manage to use it, why it is not disabled? :what:

Because you keep telling the members in your low-quality group to vote on enabling them. Plus, "HALF" of the server does not even vote in those preferences, so it's mostly you and your group picking that preference for your benefit.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Zuvich on 08 09, 2021, 07:11:25 pm
/settings vote disable guards  yes = problem solved no ?   :)
Preferences are removed + those were manipulative either way. :)

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(https://i.imgur.com/rRSq5wh.png)

i'm just gona post this ,half of your group members approving this suggestion meanwhile if they had the /guard command they would do it  :kek3:
you just cant win a war so you come here nerfing what you cant do and what you cant reach to,anywayjust a question what about this lol
Your whole post on this topic is futile and off-topic. Also, I don't consider 2 people a whole group.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: elektro on 08 09, 2021, 07:20:24 pm
Lol. do you even read this topic?
do we also have no rights to use them?
To get a normal guard, I need to travel half the city to find a guard with a normal weapon and come to the war.
When will you guys be able to use / bind z guard. and just click one button to get it

as you can see in the videos that were shown above. At the same time, we can't kill your guard because he is in the save zone. But he can kill me. not bad.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBYBR0HkT1Y&ab_channel=Elektro1337

P.S. on video I killed by guard (check kill bar)
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: HosttyBoy on 08 09, 2021, 07:31:12 pm
95% percent of people supporting this are gangsters.
Just remove the ability for gangsters to hire guards instead of the whole server  :tetelaser:  :kek4:
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Zuvich on 08 09, 2021, 07:32:12 pm
95% percent of people supporting this are gangsters.
Just remove the ability for gangsters to hire guards instead of the whole server  :tetelaser:  :kek4:
That's what I pretty much suggested  :what:
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: HosttyBoy on 08 09, 2021, 07:35:26 pm
That's what I pretty much suggested  :what:
Then I don't see any problem with this topic. The ability can be removed from gangsters
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: sK1NN on 08 09, 2021, 07:40:51 pm
95% percent of people supporting this are gangsters.
Just remove the ability for gangsters to hire guards instead of the whole server  :tetelaser:  :kek4:
hey mathematician from where u got 95% I believe u never played gangster Iin ur life so keep ur equations for urself or say something worth hearing yet u know what im positive on removing guards now since all those cry babies keep crying all day just like they cried abt house teleport or turf in their hoods so lets see after removing guards what else they have to cry about maybe removing gangster job  :tetelaser: and since u wanna fair gangster fights why dont u make a suggestion abt  weekly invite limit since u guys inviting 20 daily  and lets  have fair fights cause I believe if I suggest u may bring dead peoplefrom their graves just to vote no  :kek5:
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: BlackBear on 08 09, 2021, 07:41:23 pm
here is my opinion about this matter:
1- unbalancing the combat system: nah it doesn't bcz you can create your own guard and "abuse it" as the other guy, so it's completely fair.
2- how this feature is distributed: it's not fair obviously. only a small number of people can use it(L9 or whatever), yes ik you can hire your own guard BUT L9 groups' members can use it anywhere + it is more powerful than hired guards so it's unbalanced.
3- bugs: yes it's totally broken and obviously Arran and other developers cant fix its bugs as you have already shown in your videos. not only your video, there are a lot of videos that can prove how this is broken.

my solution by priority:
1- fix its all problems(bugs) if you can't simply remove it like how you did with a lot of missed features.
2- nerf it or make it distributed fairly for everyone, either by removing that exclusive feature to L9 or make it everyone can spawn it(this would make a huge change to the combat system so I suggest doing the first one).
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Zuvich on 08 09, 2021, 07:49:55 pm
1- unbalancing the combat system: nah it doesn't bcz you can create your own guard and "abuse it" as the other guy, so it's completely fair.
Have you ever hired a guard? it has like 80% hp or even less and is not as overpowered as L9 group guards are  :wat:
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: thund3R on 08 09, 2021, 08:23:13 pm
Guards should be completely removed from the server, fair and square. That includes CnR as well. So no more /guard and hiring them from streets. Guards are just way too powerful (damage and accuracy wise not to mention MP5's fire rate and of course they sometimes don't die :hands:) and I got some clips to prove it. And also getting L8 takes times a long time but why rewarding that with such an unfair advantage, like seriously as I said before getting L8 takes a long time and you'd think that a group and its members being a part of CIT for so long would be somewhat decent in PvP, right (talking about law, criminals groups)? :cringe:

Here I acquired some clips showcasing how OP and just unfair guards are for those who do not have them, sure it must feel amazing having a bot that deals quite a lot of damage on your opponents. But it's a fucking headache and a demotivator for those who want to get some PvP not some cringe PvP+b action.

Let's go! These aren't some 3 months old clips, in fact all of them have been recorded this month. There's a date at the end of each ones title. You can slow the clips down to see the damage I was getting on bottom right corner.

Clip 1
So this cop saw that I'm wanted and proceeded to arrest me while having a bot but completely failed because of his lack of skills and took off worrying too much or trying to maintain his bad KDR (I'm assuming because a player with good combat skills wouldn't need a guard and wouldn't be fighting like this in a 1v1 :kek5:). I did the thing as him and hired a guard from street and when he saw me with it and proceeded to talk shit about me (check the chatbox at 1:40) as if he wasn't the same coward earlier in the clip. Hypocrite much? He can use bots but I can't? :smudge_cat:
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https://youtu.be/Q9UrSXHmqMQ


Clip 2
I had hired a guard myself and that's how I decided to bully some cops with it but I had only recorded this poor newbie getting "rekt" by my bot while I was standing still. Sure he didn't have much HP but still you hopefully get the idea. I'll try to remember to do this the next time I play but on a bit more skilled players just to show how OP these bots are.
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https://youtu.be/ywHbx3dQEZw


Clip 3
Basically I was killing a player but his bot managed to remove ~80% of my armor while he was dying, still think guards aren't overpowered? :cringe:
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https://youtu.be/o2N63qzav4A


Clip 4
1v1 action with miniguns, I'd have killed him easily there if it wasn't again for his bot which was behind my back shooting me which I didn't know and guess what I got killed by his bot (death log shows MP5 icon not MG). Not to mention the player had 200+ ping which made him receive damage delayed, sure not his fault but still considering how bad sync and hitboxes are in this game guards are nothing but an inconvenience.
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https://youtu.be/kc8VBIUDEEI


Clip 5
Again if weren't for his guard appearing out of nowhere (bind key guard). I'd have stayed alive because I got killed by this player's bot (MP5 icon next to my death while the player was using an AK-47).
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https://youtu.be/kQwni-RkasE


Clip 6
Just showing how accurate the guards are, being able to damage me from such a far distance and you can see how the player who hired the guard crouches to get a cover while his bot damages me, sure another player hit me twice with sniper but that doesn't change the fact I got obliterated by his bot (again killed by an MP5). This allows a coward playstyle, start shooting, quickly hide, craft armor and by the time you're done killing his bot (if it dies LOL, they tend to bug too and not die) you'll see its owner popping up with an armor and will still die at the end. And now tell me how is that fair?
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https://youtu.be/7sjIxURvjEc

95% percent of people supporting this are gangsters.
Just remove the ability for gangsters to hire guards instead of the whole server  :tetelaser:  :kek4:
For the whole server, that includes CnR too!

here is my opinion about this matter:
1- unbalancing the combat system: nah it doesn't bcz you can create your own guard and "abuse it" as the other guy, so it's completely fair.
2- how this feature is distributed: it's not fair obviously. only a small number of people can use it(L9 or whatever), yes ik you can hire your own guard BUT L9 groups' members can use it anywhere so it's unbalanced.
3- bugs: yes it's totally broken and obviously Arran and other developers cant fix its bugs as you have already shown in your videos. not only your video, there are a lot of videos that can prove how this is broken.

my solution by priority:
1- fix its all problems(bugs) if you can't simply remove it like how you did with a lot of missed features.
2- nerf it or make it distributed fairly for everyone, either by removing that exclusive feature to L9 or make it everyone can spawn it(this would make a huge change to the combat system so I suggest doing the first one).
Or get rid of them completely so our lovely developers don't waste their time on this and can focus on other stuff!

Everyone knows that this server is mainly quantity based unless the side with the quantity are total trash then of course the side with less but higher quality members will succeed. Combat system is bad enough already, some weapons aren't as strong as they should and of course let's not forget the sync and hitboxes here so yeah.

I truly hope this gets finally implemented so there's a true PvP not some parody of it! :tick: :tick: :tick:
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Western on 08 09, 2021, 09:37:44 pm
Absolute garbage script, I mean no offense, I understand you wrote hundreds of lines, or hell, even thousands, but for fucks sake, this feature is literally for sore losers and garbage players to use then talk shit and act tough and all that. Besides the gangster side, it’s also quite unfair for 2-3 cops to show up with guards, then you have a criminal or two trying to fight both, and Vice verses of course. It’s too much of a pain to handle, sometimes they get buggy and they don’t die. I am not lying because I have at least one video to prove that, but I’m not gonna bother as the ones above are enough. Just remove this shit already.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: BlackBear on 08 09, 2021, 10:18:52 pm
Have you ever hired a guard? it has like 80% hp or even less and is not as overpowered as L9 group guards are  :wat:
then I should add this to number 2. as long as you can use guards like other guys then it's fair, bro. it doesn't matter if you don't want to use it. but as I mentioned before, L9 members have more advantages in guards like spawning it anywhere + more powerful than normal guards so yea it's not fair at this point besides the bugs it has.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: sK1NN on 09 09, 2021, 12:20:13 am
 So what if a wanted gangster face l9 group cop who can spawn guard with a click dont u think it is a disadvantage? So if u  tryna remove guards remove them for everyone  not only gangsters cause then cops can abuse them for their advantage
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Medusa on 09 09, 2021, 01:10:43 am
If I were Arran I'd remove guards immediately after this rough discussion  :ez:. I guess it's the right time to remove such perk from L8+ groups, enough bs already.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Talha on 09 09, 2021, 06:23:20 am
So what if a wanted gangster face l9 group cop who can spawn guard with a click dont u think it is a disadvantage? So if u  tryna remove guards remove them for everyone  not only gangsters cause then cops can abuse them for their advantage
If you really wanna get wanted then play as a criminal.  :gimme:
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: MarK on 09 09, 2021, 07:55:54 am
Yeah keep fighting in this topic so you give the lazy peons an excuse to just write ''drama topic'' and close it so the rest of us are getting fucked over, and the worst part of it is that it's majority supported to remove it but imma call it right here and right now.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Stolenn on 09 09, 2021, 12:49:22 pm
Fight mechanics are same for whole LS.If you are thinking something is wrong with it cause of guards,it should not include gangsters only.The upcoming update must include cops and criminals as well.
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: sK1NN on 09 09, 2021, 01:58:38 pm
If you really wanna get wanted then play as a criminal.  :gimme:
nah I stopped playing criminal since cbs team became full of braindead people and I wanna kill cops as gangster so if guards are going to be removed they should be removed for everyone not only gangsters
Title: Re: Guard system
Post by: Talha on 09 09, 2021, 05:18:10 pm
nah I stopped playing criminal since cbs team became full of braindead people and I wanna kill cops as gangster so if guards are going to be removed they should be removed for everyone not only gangsters
I don't know how CBs are related to this and if you really hate CBs then disable teamchat and play peacefully.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: WooDy on 09 09, 2021, 07:25:03 pm
Guard system for +L8 groups (/guard) is over power. At least you can use the command every 5 minutes or it takes time to spawn it like crafting armor or buying food. Time could  be 20 seconds.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Harshil on 09 09, 2021, 08:25:33 pm
https://youtu.be/X_AptAbqU_g
This video clearly shows how easily bots are being spawned. He spawned the bot  after his armor was removed idk if its  delay or they is no script to prevent from using like being hurt in last X seconds.Positive :tick:
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Predator on 10 09, 2021, 08:28:49 am
ya I agree with you I see Guard It gives great energy to his owner and the injustice of those who are high skills so any member in L8 do T/guard and fight or anyone buy guard and just 5K and sometimes the guard after his owner death he does bug so I don't see any benefit from this system so I'm positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: thund3R on 10 09, 2021, 05:14:17 pm
another clip showing how broken this script really is. you can see a chaos member with a bot, I kill him yet his bot manages to kill me at the end and gets a kill for his owner while being dead. :kek5:

https://youtu.be/W1LYSEpECuE

btw recorded today :cringe:
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: zen on 10 09, 2021, 05:22:06 pm
I assume.
because they will  keep spamming spawns their guards including dressing high power so, I agree with you woody I guess 5 minutes is enough and good for all.
I dont get what makes you guys think guards are necessary for gangsters.. team stacking doesn't usually happen in gangster side so there's no point in having this feature as L9 group members are more in number and with access to guards, it makes the game unplayable. Therefore, I'm voting Positive on this one and I'll be glad to see guards being bound  to CnR only.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: sK1NN on 10 09, 2021, 05:51:04 pm
rip chaos most group as I see using guards I didn't know how? they kept spamming guards tho.   :kek5: :kek5: :kek3:
work iron miner pls and leave this topic to gangsters,  never saw this guy using  a gun yet he manage to open his mouth,  open ur eyes and see gUaRdS sPamMers votes since u blinded  with foolishness
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Marky' on 10 09, 2021, 06:30:35 pm
After seeing a lot of clip by abusing /guard command, it is pretty indeed to remove imagine your guard is more powerful than the owner it looks kinda bad, Positive. I hope this /guard should remove in server so we can see a true PvP in Los Santos not the war with a "GUARD"  :kek3:
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: holsteN on 10 09, 2021, 09:45:55 pm
I didn't play in both factions from before I mean crim/cop I want to talk about the point this guard system is composing problems about groups and players as you see most players preparing muted for flamming each other reason is the guard, of course, to be honest, I didn't like this guard system since add.
POSITIVE :tick:
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Eleven on 12 09, 2021, 04:42:54 pm
I’m supporting this idea since guards are a lot more overpowered than I thought. They are buggy and easily spawned everywhere, hence, I’m totally in favour of this suggestion.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Western on 13 09, 2021, 02:07:47 am
rip chaos most group as I see using guards I didn't know how? they kept spamming guards tho.   :kek5: :kek5: :kek3:
@HosttyBoy

This reply has nothing to do with this discussion as all his intention is to provoke. Also it doesn't go by the guidelines either way.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Surly on 13 09, 2021, 04:50:26 pm
I'm utterly supporting this suggestion as guards are really overpowered and buggy as hell, especially L9 group members abuse their guard feature a lot which results in an unfair fight. My vote is Positive
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Fida2youn on 13 09, 2021, 09:04:18 pm
It's pointless to add ls guards if anybody wanna play vs bots he/she can play offline GTA:SA instead, so I'm voting positive
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: LiteKiller on 13 09, 2021, 09:18:42 pm
Ls is ruined due to the bots imagine a bot which got a "aimbot" misses less shots why would someone waste his time/effort fighting a bot in a online game online games aint supposed to be played against bots so its just a dumb idea to be honest and ls wars got ruined to due ls bots same goes to ars etc , so im voting positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Zexeeo on 13 09, 2021, 09:32:57 pm
Ls is ruined due to the bots imagine a bot which got a "aimbot" misses less shots why would someone waste his time/effort fighting a bot in a online game online games aint supposed to be played against bots so its just a dumb idea to be honest and ls wars got ruined to due ls bots same goes to ars etc , so im voting positive  :tick:
well litekiller already explained everything and I agree with him, if anyone wanna play against bots simply play offline gta:sa u gonna find tons of bots there to fight, online games aren't the right place for bots fans since you downloaded MTA and agreed to play a online game then u should learn how to deal with ppl in wars just get use to it or play as civil ty, positive.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Hancengiz on 16 09, 2021, 10:37:54 am
Well, if you ask me I would like the guard system to get fully removed... I don't even have an idea why the hell it got added... Imagine you fight against a noob guy who got a guard with, but you lose as the noob guy takes an advantage with the guard. It would be so annoying, so remove the guard system at least for the Gangster Side. I go for positive.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Nordie on 19 09, 2021, 10:48:57 am
I back to CIT after big pause and… this system force me to leave CIT again: unfair, useless, abusable, etc.

You say me: “take your own guard and fight”
No pls.
Too hard to find suitable guard with useful gun.

But that’s not main reason why I hate this guard system.
Main reason here: just imagine all players got at least one guard and started to fight each other. Sounds like madness, chaos… call it like you want!

Let to players fight each other one by one without stupid peds. It’s about skill or isn’t it? Adding guard system destroys player vs player gameplay.

My opinion about this system is negative. We needn't it in CIT!
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Laurel on 19 09, 2021, 10:56:55 am
It can be removed, since wars are not good because' of Guards. Positive.
Title: Re: Guard system [Gangsters]
Post by: Arran on 19 09, 2021, 05:17:48 pm
- Disabled being able to hire guards. (Arran + Haisum)