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Ingame Community => News and Updates => Topic started by: daddy on 28 09, 2021, 08:38:00 am
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What is the suggestion going about?: Add a delay switching from Deagle to Shotgun/Sawed-off in LV.
Description: After the recent update, people started abusing with 2 ways such as Deagle-shotgun, Deagle-sawed off with macros which give them an unfair advantage especially in close-range fights.
What would this suggestion improve: It will improve the gameplay here in LV because it gives an advantage to cheaters who use macros and become undefeatable because it deals a lot of damage and makes combat fights fairer.
Why does this needs to be added?: It's totally unwanted in LV because single sawed-off deals with high damage + Deagle damage so it's annoying here.
Can you provide us any examples?: No.
EDIT :
https://youtu.be/EzvA50KeWp8
NOTE to developers: we need the same fix as Deagle-spas which delay shooting instantly after switching from Deagle to Sawed-off/Shotgun
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Remove the sawed-off part, I personally never saw anyone spamming this combo but I noticed other players spamming deagle/shotgun
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Sawed-off is easy to counter and hard to be perfect at unlike shotgun/spaz - deagle because of the animations and static aim. I would appreciate if you could remove sawn-dgl combo like Mark said.
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It's indeed an overpowered combo especially with the single sawed off, upvoting since I already stated in the previous suggestion that I'd also agree with adding the limit to the sawed off shotgun, sure we can add it for the shotgun too.
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Going to say that it's more annoying than spas deagle and more powerful but hard for normal players to use even so the laggers can give you x100+ damage in a second without knowing, voting Positive this thing should be removed
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I do think this should be implemented to prevent the game play in LV from being repetitive and uncreative. a city full of nades and rocket launchers should have a diverse way of fighting instead of having only one way to counter people's attacks, as fighting this way forces the opponent to fight in the same way, otherwise, they'd lose. I'm always in support of maintaining a healthy and constructive game play in combat.
Positive.
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since combat/deagle have nerfed, there would be also nerfed sawn/deagle with them but as it seems like we are doing it now..Positive
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provide us a video of how it's being spammed/abused so we can vote based on real issues :fp:
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Deagle-sawed-off, Deagle-Shotgun disturb and ruin my gameplay alot. If we fixed the abusing ways for deagle-spas, why don't we do the same rest of shotguns so we can have fair-play? Agree
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Won't add anything else because the guys above already said it. Rather than the (deagle/combat) spam, they already made something else which is the spam between the deagle and the Shotgun/Single Sawed-Off. It's the most annoying thing which been ever made in CIT, our gameplay been so dilapidated from this useless spam. These duo are very vanquish ones, made our gameplay so ruined and fucked up. I am undoubtedly positive.
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So many people came from inactive to play because that binds back , removing this binds will make the Lv dead and they will back inactive again. NEGATIVE
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I prefer disabling deagle from LV than keep changing things and later reverting them . :kek5:
POSITIVE
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Shotgun can't even be used in LV, but with macro deagle-Shotgun it makes the damage overpower af, adding a delay on Deagle-Shotgun is indeed since people started making macros which gives them an advantage over others. Positive for the Deagle-Shotgun delay.
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Previously suggested adding a cool down between each desert eagle shot but nobody listened, this would've fixed every single deagle / *any gun* abuse.
Supporting this for sure anyway.
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We might have patched deagle/spaz spam, but as the video shows spamming deagle with sawn off or shotgun can be just as abusable. Sure for some skilled players its not impossible to counter, but newer players who play more statically can get smashed in under 2 seconds by this. Voting positive.
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dude u just make LV dead again, sawn is not same as spas did u try sawn before lol
NEGATIVE :cros:
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dude u just make LV dead again, sawn is not same as spas did u try sawn before lol
NEGATIVE :cros:
The single sawn and the deagle are both being spammed more than the combat shotgun/dgl. It's an over powered weapon. Plus, it's with deagle, what a great combo :fp:
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You can play with much delay as you want in LS, this delay slow down the lv game play
Negative :cros:
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It's really annoying to see players using an excuse like 'This will make it look like LS' anyway i'm upvoting this suggestion since spamming deagle with sawn off or shotgun is easily abusable currently on LV.
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I'm voting positive for a delay in those two weapons, shotgun and sawed off, since it's really unfair and we can't play in this LV because of exploiters using macros to gain some unfair advantage.
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One of the ways that exploiters are using macros and shooting like Usain Bolt. Of course I am Positive :tick:
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this boi hh , just suggest to remove all binds and lv is great again , lv been with binds for years now this bum trynna make lv only sniper nades nega :cros:
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You can play with much delay as you want in LS, this delay slow down the lv game play
Negative :cros:
Its not delay like LS its delay like the deagle-spas one. So when shoot with deagle and switch to sawed it will have some delay to fire the 2 bullets,this is not op than spas and deagle. if you try it you will see. if you try it with shotgun, there is already delay with reload in shotgun. so you will stuck when the shotgun ammo out. and it can get you killed. also with sawn off, you cant spam with sawn off like spas. also accuracy is bad when u spam with sawn off. you will see if you try it out. spas and deagle enough. this will slow down the lv game play. if this get added somehow, your next suggestion will be nerf the tec-9,uzi. because there will be no other way to get rid of tec 9 spammer. :kek2: negative with this. :cros:
About the accuracy is bad I already posted a video proving my point of view, Deagle-sawed off is running weapon combo so it deals alot of damage plus moving faster than deagle-spas so how you guys saying deagle spas was more op lol :kek5:
this boi hh , just suggest to remove all binds and lv is great again , lv been with binds for years now this bum trynna make lv only sniper nades nega :cros:
After we removed deagle-spas I was playing with it normally and alot of LV players playing normally without using macros or combos to win a combat fight.
dude u just make LV dead again, sawn is not same as spas did u try sawn before lol
NEGATIVE :cros:
Have you seen the video I posted? why don't you play classic without any combos and switch weapons normally like 2014-18 ｢(ﾟﾍﾟ)
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voting positive, I want to see the old LV again, these spammers just ruin people's gameplay by spamming and killing you very fast, where's the fun of the combat if u end it within 1.2 sec.
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I changed my mind. After seeing the video u posted. Yeah it is op. If we delayed sawn off, people will start to use shotgun to spam. So kt will be better if the both gun has delay. Like spas. am positive with this sugggestion :tick:.
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Voting yes
Its unfair play which I can die within 4 seconds plus an armour,
ONLY SING SAWED OFF
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Fixing Deagle-Spas combo was a great idea but now everyone is abusing worse combo Deagle and Single sawed off, which cause alot of damage to us specially in close range fights so we need that fix as soon as possible. Positive
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As we all know it was a good addition to the server when it was added but some people have abused it and in fact it was very bad after misusing it in the server so it is better to add a delay switching from Deagle to Shotgun/Sawed-off . Positive
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And what you did, you will kill the deagle again, plus I cant see ppl spamming this bind like deagle+spas so my vote is negative
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And what you did, you will kill the deagle again, plus I cant see ppl spamming this bind like deagle+spas so my vote is negative
Deagle will keep working for Deagle sniper, or any other weapon but spamming deagle-sawed everytime is pretty annoying and giving advantage to cheaters using macros
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why don't you suggest to make of LV another LS? It would be faster, and I really don't have a problem at all with that, but it's quite interesting that when you suggested the removal of deagle-spas you were the one who used the most that spam, and later came talking about others abusing. I think it's kinda hypocritical to make use of something but when you find someone who does it better than you, you go suggest the removal of it. Personally, I don't like this spam either, especially the one deagle-shotgun, but we shouldn't disturb others gameplay because we simply can't deal against them playing by the same ways.
Downvoting for sure.
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why don't you suggest to make of LV another LS? It would be faster, and I really don't have a problem at all with that, but it's quite interesting that when you suggested the removal of deagle-spas you were the one who used the most that spam, and later came talking about others abusing. I think it's kinda hypocritical to make use of something but when you find someone who does it better than you, you go suggest the removal of it. Personally, I don't like this spam either, especially the one deagle-shotgun, but we shouldn't disturb others gameplay because we simply can't deal against them playing by the same ways.
Downvoting for sure.
I was using Deagle-spas spam, I could've kept using it to keep the game disruptive for the rest of the players because I will be thinking about myself only while a lot of people were complaining about it, we need to find a solution that would be okay for the majority not for the players who have advantages only, we shouldn't ignore the players can't get used to playing against cheaters or people abusing some combos that cause a lot of damage because that won't be a game experience, that would be disruptive gameplay and will end players going inactive or leaving the game because they can't change anything about it. :thumb:
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Literally to make it balanced it should be removed considering that the delay exists on combat shotgun but not with sawn, and that leads to nothing but the server being unbalanced. people still use macros on sawn/deagle, and those who disagree with such addition are mostly the ones who are using the macro. Postive.
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A lot of people using sawed-off and deagle macro and that will not give the people chance to play
removing this would make LV more active Positive
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Lame how everybody can just spam deagle using those 2 guns rapidly, besides the fact that macros actually work for this (tested it personally). Supporting this suggestion on removing both.
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And what you did, you will kill the deagle again, plus I cant see ppl spamming this bind like deagle+spas so my vote is negative
Yes, as he said actually. You are just making new suggestion everyday just because someone killed you with ex weapon. Stop making new suggestions because you can't adapt with the current game play. You are not playing alone in this server already. He killed you because his aim is good, nothing else.
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u been teachin everyone the macro thing now they became ur enemies now u want a delay because ur weak ass cant fight em , u should suggest to disable macro from the game not ruin the binds
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In my opinion both options should be removed, now spammers just trying to ruin others gameplay, I don't know how this gameplay may bring fun for someone.
positive
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Supporting this for the same reasons I had when the combat shotgun/deagle spam was fixed. It's lame to get killed in less than a second by someone who uses macros to execute the shots perfectly.
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I noticed today that some players started spamming this combo, they started using dual sawn so they can spam 4 bullets with deagle which is more powerful than deagle spas IMO, I enjoy playing with sawn recently since its more efficient with deagle cause spas became unused cause of the delay with spas. We should make it equal and fix it for both weapons. Changing my vote and voting positive
u been teachin everyone the macro thing now they became ur enemies now u want a delay because ur weak ass cant fight em , u should suggest to disable macro from the game not ruin the binds
Id like to make things clear, players like this guy are ones who voted positive to remove SPAS DEAGLE and are voting negative for sawn deagle. Yet he is one of the reasons why we've made this suggestion cause he is one of the players spamming this combo which is OP and annoying
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A lot of people can't even understand the suggestion it's a delay for firing the bullet right after firing from Deagle same as DEAGLE-SPAS delay so you can use spas normally and you can use deagle normally so the same goes for Deagle-sawed-off/Deagle-shotgun
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I noticed today that some players started spamming this combo, they started using dual sawn so they can spam 4 bullets with deagle which is more powerful than deagle spas IMO, I enjoy playing with sawn recently since its more efficient with deagle cause spas became unused cause of the delay with spas. We should make it equal and fix it for both weapons. Changing my vote and voting positiveId like to make things clear, players like this guy are ones who voted positive to remove SPAS DEAGLE and are voting negative for sawn deagle. Yet he is one of the reasons why we've made this suggestion cause he is one of the players spamming this combo which is OP and annoying
I havent even checked his suggestion for spas dgl idc , keep the binds the way they r nades and sniper r op also so lets suggest a delay for them too wdyu think
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daddy u just ruining the pref. I remember that we vote out for permanently LV pref and now we voting again. if this guy died again using by any guns ,he will say again to reduce the guns damage or delaying it, are not u the one who said to back spam deagle spas etc.? WTF U JUST KEEP CHANGING THE LV PREF.
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daddy u just ruining the pref. I remember that we vote out for permanently LV pref and now we voting again. if this guy died again using by any guns ,he will say again to reduce the guns damage or delaying it, are not u the one who said to back spam deagle spas etc.? WTF U JUST KEEP CHANGING THE LV PREF.
no, I'm not the one who suggested to back Deagle-spas, and LV preferences have nothing to do with firing delay between Deagle-Spas or Deagle Sawed-off
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I like the fact the abusers who use that combo, abusing macros are the people voting negative try to play clean once in your life and enjoy the game don't ruin another players gameplay. Positive
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I havent even checked his suggestion for spas dgl idc , keep the binds the way they r nades and sniper r op also so lets suggest a delay for them too wdyu think
are you comparing sniper nades with sawn deagle? Its fucking easier to spam sawn and deagle and to aim with them instead of aiming with sniper and nades. Everyone can spam nades you are right but spamming nades isnt useful if you cant aim with it properly with sniper. Sniper aim is hard compared to the sawn so dont compare them, and you can notice now spas became unused cause everyone is using sawn deagle which is unfair and has to be removed or simply bring back spas deagle. Tell me if im wrong please
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are you comparing sniper nades with sawn deagle? Its fucking easier to spam sawn and deagle and to aim with them instead of aiming with sniper and nades. Everyone can spam nades you are right but spamming nades isnt useful if you cant aim with it properly with sniper. Sniper aim is hard compared to the sawn so dont compare them, and you can notice now spas became unused cause everyone is using sawn deagle which is unfair and has to be removed or simply bring back spas deagle. Tell me if im wrong please
the ironic thing is that the majority of negative votes are from hobos members, which is known for spamming this annoying and unfair combo, they want to ruin people's gameplay and their votes won't be taken into consideration.
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the ironic thing is that the majority of negative votes are from hobos members, which is known for spamming this annoying and unfair combo, they want to ruin people's gameplay and their votes won't be taken into consideration.
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(Groupnote) HoBoS: gO vOtE nEgAtIvE FoR tHe SuGgesTion otherwise we cant get kills and hold the empty lv for weeKs
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anything that could be used with macros to spam, I vote positive to remove it.
Positive.
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bums involving hobos as an excuse while they dont even play at lv , I got no prob with spas dgl if arran could make solution for macro users then thats the suggestion should be here not delay binds in any gun
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Seems like an unfair advantage as shown in the video you have provided in the topic, getting killed in a couple of seconds is annoying... this combination sucks and literally give a strong advantage to your opponent.
Positive :tick:
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27 pos 6 negative. Marked as High Priority.
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Tbh if u wanna solve this problem just change ur sug and make like daddy one with deagle and spaz just FIRE delay not switch
Its fire delay same as deagle spas
And this is how deagle become useless again my vote its ofc :cros:
You already voted negative once so
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And this is how deagle become useless again my vote its ofc :cros:
You can't vote twice.
read the topic tittle “switching from deagle to shotgun/sawed”
Still you can't vote twice.
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read the topic tittle “switching from deagle to shotgun/sawed”
READ note to developers.
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You're just nerfing Deagle but not giving any solutions, Suggest to remove binds instead of keeping making suggestions to add delays to every weapon with deagle :fp:
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I will go for Neutral, since everyone can play like they how wants. You cant make order to them about this.
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I will go for Neutral, since everyone can play like they how wants. You cant make order to them about this.
Actually having an overpowered option makes the other options obsolete, so people aren't playing the combo they want but the combo they are forced to.
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I will go for Neutral, since everyone can play like they how wants. You cant make order to them about this.
but it's uncounterable and giving a high advantage no one would like losing 110 HP in 2 seconds.
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- Added a delay switching from Deagle to Shotgun/Sawed-off in LV. (Arran + daddy)