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Title: [+++] Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Axe on 18 04, 2021, 03:06:03 am
Well, in the past days I've playing on both sides crim and cop, during my time playing as a cop I've noticed that there are some people abusing the anti-rush system to avoid getting killed how they doing it? Simply they fighting and once they get low HP they run into the anti rush to get back to their respawn and avoid dying. I've faced this problem mostly whole playing as a cop. Criminals are doing it on purpose and abusing the anti rush system. The anti-rush update which warping you to the your team's respawn was made because of the people who jump off to the anti rush mistakenly (Happening in NC) that's why the update implemented and not to abuse it. I'm suggesting to disable the re-warp to their team's respawn thing if cop or crim have low HP, the anti-rush will kill him and the kill will count for the player who dealt the most damage. 

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apologizing if there are some grammatical mistakes, I'm typing this from my phone.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Sleuth on 18 04, 2021, 04:34:56 am
Simply, edit your suggestion and clarify what you're proposing here. the Anti-Rush system was made to give a fair advantage to the outnumbered team inside the Criminal Event. it certainly wasn't made for whatever reason you're presenting here. there's so much nonsense I'm seeing here, you're saying that players get auto-warped to their team's spawn after the CE started?... all I can conclude from this is that you just joined an NC where your spawn was upstairs or whatever, wait, even that wouldn't work... if you're upstairs, the opposite team can't get to you at all because the Anti-Rush line is positioned right on the stairs. the opposite team CANNOT go upstairs, hit you, get low HP, then jump downstairs and hide in the spawn.....
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Axe on 18 04, 2021, 04:44:15 am
Simply, edit your suggestion and clarify what you're proposing here. the Anti-Rush system was made to give a fair advantage to the outnumbered team inside the Criminal Event. it certainly wasn't made for whatever reason you're presenting here. there's so much nonsense I'm seeing here, you're saying that players get auto-warped to their team's spawn after the CE started?... all I can conclude from this is that you just joined an NC where your spawn was upstairs or whatever, wait, even that wouldn't work... if you're upstairs, the opposite team can't get to you at all because the Anti-Rush line is positioned right on the stairs. the opposite team CANNOT go upstairs, hit you, get low HP, then jump downstairs and hide in the spawn.....
Bruh... I meant the recent update of anti-rush which is re-warping you to your team's respawn if u had low hp and ran into the anti rush before it ends (less than 5 mins). It was made because people used to jump off upstairs and they get stuck in the anti rush till they die so they did it like that. Whenever you have low hp > ran into the anti rush and you'll warp back to your team's respawn which is abuse.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Axe on 20 04, 2021, 07:06:07 pm
Can you guys pay attention to this suggestion? It's being abused on a daily basis
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Sleuth on 20 04, 2021, 07:27:58 pm
Bruh... I meant the recent update of anti-rush which is re-warping you to your team's respawn if u had low hp and ran into the anti rush before it ends (less than 5 mins). It was made because people used to jump off upstairs and they get stuck in the anti rush till they die so they did it like that. Whenever you have low hp > ran into the anti rush and you'll warp back to your team's respawn which is abuse.
If that only happens in NC, that'll make it harder for developers to do something about. but looking at the way it gets abused in, something must be done about it so the CE wouldn't be broken. people won't stop abusing it and it will keep creating unnecessary arguments.

Upvoting.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Roxen on 24 04, 2021, 02:47:06 pm
I have faced that too and it's really annoying to abuse the anti-rush to escape your death so removing the re-warp and making anti-rush kills instead would fix the problem and prevent players from abusing it, and since it only happens in NC people should just take care and don't jump off to the anti rush to don't get stuck and the problem should be solved I'm supporting your suggestion.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Nyle on 24 04, 2021, 03:00:02 pm
I support this idea because Cops have abused this feature many times and it has been unfair. My vote is positive.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: DarkShad0w on 25 04, 2021, 01:50:52 pm

I see many abusing this feature by going there why they're low hp which is an abuse and should be prevented by any way, your suggestion is good, positive
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: S3xy. on 25 04, 2021, 02:14:16 pm
Voting positive they are abusing this when they are low hp they run to the anti rush so they don't die
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Apollo on 26 04, 2021, 07:18:16 pm
I don't think that would be a good idea, I got your point, it would be fair for experienced players but what about the newbies? Most of them they are not aware of that anti rush system so in case that they get killed will bring a big dossapointment for them, the current system is better in my opinion.
Voting Negative.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Vibe. on 26 04, 2021, 09:54:54 pm
The anti-rush update which warping you to the your team's respawn was made because of the people who jump off to the anti rush mistakenly (Happening in NC) that's why the update implemented
I don't mind players abusing rather than dying from anti-rush because of this bug. If you have a better solution you can suggest but don't revert the update and cause another problem that isn't friendly for newbies and inactive players. This problem was so frustrating for any criminal because he will lose his WP, I am not into reverting this update until we find a proper solution. downvoting this suggestion.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: LegendaryDaphne on 26 04, 2021, 11:54:15 pm
I'm suggesting to disable the re-warp to their team's respawn thing if cop or crim have low HP, the anti-rush will kill him and the kill will count for the player who dealt the most damage. 

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apologizing if there are some grammatical mistakes, I'm typing this from my phone.
Unfortunately I'm voting negative. I think it'd be better to make a warn system instead. It will warn the three times, and if you still do it you'll get killed. Because it'd be confusing and inconvenient for new players as they'll get killed instantly in CEs. And the current anti-rush system already prevents the bigger team to rush them. Dude, speaking for both sides, how much damage will they really do if they can't rush but shoot? You can almost always find a cover to heal yourself there.
Edit: Changed my opinion on the suggestion to positive, you can read my vote next page.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: FerociusWizz on 30 04, 2021, 07:53:44 am
Supporting this suggestion as I have seen cops doing this everyday and run to the anti rush side to cover themselves when they are low on up, this has to stop as it disrupts the CE system hence Positive.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Justice on 30 04, 2021, 01:47:25 pm
The current system which teleports a player when they rushed too much is kind of annoying really since there are players who is abusing it to avoid getting killed by another player. They will try to fight on the anti rush line then waits until they get teleported to avoid that scenario. So, I am going to vote positively on this one.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Axe on 08 05, 2021, 03:19:55 am
Will post a video explaining this suggestion soon. Don't lock it yet

https://streamable.com/lwvy7t - He had low hp and touched the anti-rush line which saved him from dying (warped him back to our respawn) this happen on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Axe on 08 05, 2021, 08:49:09 pm
Unfortunately I'm voting negative. I think it'd be better to make a warn system instead. It will warn the three times, and if you still do it you'll get killed. Because it'd be confusing and inconvenient for new players as they'll get killed instantly in CEs.
The anti-rush line already lowering your hp 3 times which can be considered as a warn, so If i'm a criminal and cop shot me before the anti-rush get disabled and I had low hp then I ran in the anti-rush line i'll get warped back to our respawn, new players can obviously read and see /updates if they can't understand it, they will probably ask and will avoid doing it in the future.
And the current anti-rush system already prevents the bigger team to rush them. Dude, speaking for both sides, how much damage will they really do if they can't rush but shoot? You can almost always find a cover to heal yourself there.
I didn't mention anything about 'bigger team can't rush the other because the anti-rush is disabled' you probably need to re-check the suggestion and the video I provided.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Ghost Recon on 08 05, 2021, 09:09:06 pm
I have to agree with you, there are a lot of people who abuse this system  " All days " just so they don't die, but we also have to think that this would be good for experienced players, but it would be harmful for newbies, just because they don't understand anything, but I still vote positively.  :tick:
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: LegendaryDaphne on 08 05, 2021, 09:36:09 pm
Unfortunately I'm voting negative. I think it'd be better to make a warn system instead. It will warn the three times, and if you still do it you'll get killed. Because it'd be confusing and inconvenient for new players as they'll get killed instantly in CEs. And the current anti-rush system already prevents the bigger team to rush them. Dude, speaking for both sides, how much damage will they really do if they can't rush but shoot? You can almost always find a cover to heal yourself there.
Edit: Changed my opinion on the suggestion to positive, you can read my vote next page.
After watching the video Axe added, and observing the criminal events I've thought this feature itself interferes with CEs. People use combat shotguns to deal damage and instantly walk to the anti rush barrier to avoid getting hit by bullets. I've noticed this is being misused both of criminal and law side on daily basis. You can have almost no HP and simply walk to the anti-rush barrier to get spawned to nearest cover, as like in the video and many other CEs. Introduction of anti-rush barrier killing players instantly would prevent them to misuse this feature, or how do we make people stop misusing it without getting them killed? Feel free to share your ideas, in my opinion it's the best to use "auto-kill" to discourage players from misusing it. I'm voting positive.  :tick:
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Apollo on 10 05, 2021, 06:24:34 pm
I wouldn't ever think how abusable such an action could be, your video is enough to convince me and make me change my vote.
Voting Positive.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Marky' on 11 05, 2021, 04:18:22 pm
I will support you and this good idea because some of cops have  abused this feature and your video is enough to make my vote Positive.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Elwan on 11 05, 2021, 06:03:00 pm
My vote is positive  :tick:  because I saw many cops abusing this Feature
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Axe on 11 05, 2021, 06:30:47 pm
Hello,
I don't agree with your idea because, it's your duty to kill the person that you're following or fighting with him, so everyone has to work and deserve being paid or whatever.  Negative.
????, Can you tell me how can I kill 'the person's that actually abused anti rush feature to warp to their respawn after me getting his half Hp? Because your post doesn't make any sense and should be deleted because it's useless @Freezing.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Emberthal on 11 05, 2021, 06:36:14 pm
Good idea imo. People abusing this feature to avoid certain death by crims/cops. If you got low hp, it kills you, instead of warping you back is better. At least abusers will learn from it (or find another way to abuse it lol.) Positive.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: WooDy on 11 05, 2021, 07:41:24 pm
The anti-rush update made for purpose with prevent stuck players from leaving the area. However, we see many players get benefit from this update while others not as it explained in this topic. Therefore, this script should be modified to prevent warping a player who received damage in last X seconds. I'm voting positive 
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Mitrok on 12 05, 2021, 02:48:37 am
I am going to vote positively on this one because most of the time this feature in CE it is being abused as they will just jump onto the line when they are nearly going to die inside the CE to avoid dying from other players as these players will be teleported immediately for rushing in other's team line. This will give players to avoid exploiting that feature for better experience inside the CEs.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Violet on 12 05, 2021, 05:55:13 am
I am not attending CEs like in the past, But as I see it's abusable, Anyone can just jump into the anti rush once he notice his low hp and BOOM if iam a cop I will be mad af. Voting positive. Btw the kill should go to the most one damaged him since he is the one focus in CE not just KSer.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Ahmed? on 12 05, 2021, 05:58:18 am
As described Amami it is a great problem and also has noticed a lot and but this is very good and the players can exploit it and also exploit it to not death as described Amami and so I think he needs to suggest Axe because he is a good proposal I am positive
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: iFighTeR7 on 12 05, 2021, 09:08:28 pm
i saw players abusing this anti rush to avoid dying and using it in a way it wasn't supposed to be used in which is obvious an abuse and should be removed asap. Also the video clearly showed it's abuse-able so I'm positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: fr3o0on on 13 05, 2021, 05:22:36 am
It's a very good idea to avoid abusers abusing the anti rush system, it was made because people who fall dont die but now they're abusing it, your suggestion is great also helping to less the abuse which will make the gameplayer more enjoyable
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Laurel on 15 05, 2021, 04:33:35 pm
Will post a video explaining this suggestion soon. Don't lock it yet

https://streamable.com/lwvy7t - He had low hp and touched the anti-rush line which saved him from dying (warped him back to our respawn) this happen on a daily basis.

I think this suggestion would solve the abuse happening ine most of the CEs, which is abusing the anti rush system by going there while your hp is low to avoid dying. Just like the video your provided it's obviously an abuse, so making it like that would be actually amazing, positive
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: ComptoN on 15 05, 2021, 07:55:10 pm
The auto warp thing is really annoying when you are about to kill someone and he tries to go through the antirushto save himself, so it shall kill him when in low hp, voting positivr :tick:
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: iFrank on 23 05, 2021, 11:42:51 am
Sure, why not, if this restriction would actually put an end to the ongoing abuse of the anti-rush system that's happening almost in all CEs, and since no one bothers filing a complaint because the player might have abused it unintentionally or once, even if intentionally, which in the end frustrates the players on the other side who misses the kill chances.

Though it's up to developers to decide whether it's better to disable the anti-rush system teleporting the players with low HP to the team spawn point, or letting the anti-rush actually kill the low HP player, as this suggestion aims to achieve. My vote, in either case, is positive.
Title: Re: Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: HosttyBoy on 25 05, 2021, 06:14:43 pm
23 Positive votes - 2 negative votes. 21 Positive votes. Marked as High Priority.
Title: Re: [+++] Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Raef on 26 05, 2021, 03:08:29 pm
It's indeed a simple suggestion, but will surely make a difference as you'll become able to kill that cop/criminal who's running to the anti rush to prevent himself from dying. Also, I don't agree with this as it'll only be boring and a waste of ammo and time. The video Axe provided clearly shows how people can abuse this. I'm positive.
Title: Re: [+++] Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Salah on 26 05, 2021, 03:13:24 pm
Its abuse able and I seeing many people abusing it while I'm playing at LS. So this should be disabled because it's annoying to get someone's health to 10 then he run in the anti rush to avoid getting killed"
Title: Re: [+++] Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Alpoal on 28 05, 2021, 11:42:14 am
I have been thinking for a while about that, this may be like JFM entries and might be good. I am sure there are a lots of player abusing this feature and this will be good for them. In these days CEs getting bored and worse in this sitution, clearing the abusers may help a little bit good for CEs and sometimes people may see bugs cause of this anti rush systems warps. This idea may be good.

Positive.  :tick:

Title: Re: [+++] Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Ths on 30 05, 2021, 04:26:24 am
Greetings,

Before stating my reason as far as I remember I thought when you about to enter the Anti-rush you will automatically go back outside the line I mean few inches out there or preventing you to inside Anti-rush like your body is turning back even you keep pushing body inside of it but in that case I'm going to support this suggestion to prevent the abuse.
Title: Re: [+++] Making the anti-rush kill you if you have low hp.
Post by: Arran on 30 05, 2021, 08:03:28 pm
- CE anti rush will kill you instead of warping back if HP is below 30 when triggering it. (Arran + Axe)