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Title: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Pepe on 01 08, 2019, 12:20:06 am
Hey there.

I know the all usual reactions to ''bring back'' and ''revert an update'' by our developers. But I've seen way, and I mean it, way too much confusion between the new players. I keep reading players in the civilian team chat who offer items and keep advertising the very same items over and over within minutes, just to end up asking why their stuff is not being sold. Both support chat and civilian chat, players keep seem to be confused about the system and even ignorant of it.

That said, it's not only highly confusing, but even annoying to start with. There's absolutely no reason for the system to be restricted to Market Areas, just with the justification of ''Role Play''. CIT was and will never be a solely based Role Play server.

Just revert the system and make the system back to what it was, solving many problems, one of which affect the new player base of CIT.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: FeRoX on 01 08, 2019, 12:35:42 am
I agree with him as I think its a very bad update and very confusing I just understand it s2 days ago so I think it will be better to remove it and return the old system of the F7 as its easier to use for all members
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Mordecai on 01 08, 2019, 12:37:26 am
I just saw him while helping a newbie guy at marketing area as he was so confused about marketing system.
Newbies are having hard times to understand  this system , old system was more usefull , we can keep the cargo price
but selling in marketing are should be removed. Supporting this!
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: RedHeart on 01 08, 2019, 01:24:16 am
Yes,i see that the current system no need for it and it just confusing newbies. Some old players get confused from it.
Old system was easier and faster so why it get removed? So I am supporting that old system get back.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: OhhKarim on 01 08, 2019, 01:28:46 am
I haven't supported the system the first day it was suggested, when it was added, and currently. It makes no sense to me why I would have to do /sell to sell stuff, and pay fees to get my stuff directly while being outside the market, etc. The old system was perfect and nobody complained about it.

"If it works, don't touch it"

It should be reverted imo, so I agree with this suggestion.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Cook_HD on 01 08, 2019, 04:32:40 am
Yes, I've saw many players asking in TeamChat, "Why no one buy my items ?" Yes, They didnt stand in the Market area before putting item on it, I think old system is good. I amSupporting with him.  :tick:
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Chopper on 01 08, 2019, 11:12:23 am
Old system was easier and better Supporting
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Beauty on 01 08, 2019, 11:20:14 am
The new system is rather confusing, and has no use at all. Having to stop working, going to the market area to put your items on sale is rather annoying, and a total waste of time. There is no fraud happening in the market (F7), which shows no reason of why this system has been implemented. The role play factor can't be everywhere, since after-all this is a game, and not an actual simulator. I am going for positive on this one, unless it is proven useful to keep the current *Market Area* system.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Angels on 01 08, 2019, 11:25:07 am
Well it is good idea to bring it back so you will save time to go to LS Market, SF Hospital or LV Hospital. In my opinion these market areas give more ,, realistic '' gameplay. Also there are people that AFK on the market areas, but I don't think it will change something for the AFKers at market areas. I wonder what is the confusing ? Maybe there need to be another part of tutorial for the market area to tell them how to buy.
For the realistic gameplay it was very good update as irl you can't just get 10k iron in the middle of the sea or forrest. You need to go to shops to buy food,materials and etc. Also for the fee that is cuz of the delivery companies that take fee to give it to your place without you go to their offices.
I like the idea that it will save us time if it gets removed, but also it will remove a little bit of the ,, realistic '' gameplay of CIT. ( LS, SF and LV are not big so they can go from any point of the cities for max 2 minutes)
I'm voting negative only for the realistic gameplay.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Sultan on 01 08, 2019, 11:28:58 am
Saying that it will increase roleplay, made this update get high chances of getting accepted, CIT is CnR server (COPS N ROBBERS) Not a RPG server, the old system was good, and good to save our time to reach there, but the present one takes extra money to buy when not in market area, this update makes no sense, this will just save our time, as this is a CNR SERVER not a RPG server, therefore, I am supporting this suggestion.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: MaHMouD# on 01 08, 2019, 02:16:27 pm
Well it is good idea to bring it back so you will save time to go to LS Market, SF Hospital or LV Hospital. In my opinion these market areas give more ,, realistic '' gameplay. Also there are people that AFK on the market areas, but I don't think it will change something for the AFKers at market areas. I wonder what is the confusing ? Maybe there need to be another part of tutorial for the market area to tell them how to buy.
For the realistic gameplay it was very good update as irl you can't just get 10k iron in the middle of the sea or forrest. You need to go to shops to buy food,materials and etc. Also for the fee that is cuz of the delivery companies that take fee to give it to your place without you go to their offices.
I like the idea that it will save us time if it gets removed, but also it will remove a little bit of the ,, realistic '' gameplay of CIT. ( LS, SF and LV are not big so they can go from any point of the cities for max 2 minutes)
I'm voting negative only for the realistic gameplay.
CIT is not real life server for your info.

Everything stated above, Old system is easier and better. Supporting this.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Pepe on 01 08, 2019, 02:44:39 pm
I wonder what is the confusing ?

I think you're having difficulties imagining the case for a newly registered player, so take a look at the example I made for you (don't even bother to ask how many players are or seem to be confused)

(https://imgur.com/6hn3i1B.png) (https://imgur.com/UGJz9n7.png) (https://imgur.com/cso8kBU.png)

Oh, and also, I've already contra-argumentated your ''RolePlay'' argument in my topic post already. CIT is NOT a RolePlay server, it as a CnR. Doing anything with the legitemacy or justification of ''ROLEPLAY'' is invalid.

Considering that Arran has already blocked a lot of suggestions who were related to RolePlay, he shouldn't have agreed on adding this just to increase the Role Play.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: OX-9 on 01 08, 2019, 03:12:24 pm
Supporting your idea this system is very bad the old was easy and better. +1
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: DubStep on 01 08, 2019, 03:13:10 pm
Nice idea, tbh newbies doesn't understand that update I saw many of them asking why none is buying my items even if they put it for cheaper prices and in the end they wasn't at the market area so removing it will improve things and players won't suffer from this..
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Dizzy on 01 08, 2019, 03:28:16 pm
I fully agree with you, @Pepe
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Smiler on 01 08, 2019, 03:31:54 pm
Upvoting this suggestion finally someone posted a topic about this system, it's so confusing and complicated even me myself got confused when I tried to sell some stuff at first, it's so annoying in my opinion and we should revert back the old trading system as it's so easy, comfortable and practical even new players will be able to trade their stuff without any issues and without getting confused so the game becomes easier and fun as it was.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Shane on 01 08, 2019, 05:59:14 pm
EG chat is full of "selling iron" "buy my iron"  and when you try to explain it for them , they just don't get it. Supporting  :tick:
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: HarwoodButcher on 01 08, 2019, 06:27:10 pm
 :tick:

The current system just brings confusion to new players and maybe old returning players. Every day I see some one saying "Selling iron for $10" and yet I check F7 as soon as they say it and I don't see it. Also some people don't even know where the market area is even at.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Cristiano on 02 08, 2019, 07:47:00 am
F7 system has an important place in CIT history. In terms of making money. It was nice to be able to sell our products anytime and anywhere. The market system can be reconciled with real life, but with the introduction of the new system, questions have increased.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Prototype on 02 08, 2019, 08:06:46 am
Server is huge. Newbies have to learn rules and get used to them. Even myself get confusions about some stuff in game but this does not mean that stuff has to be removed.

Market area is so nice and whoever does not understand how it works they simply can open F1 and read description.

I totally dont agree on removing market. Due to laziness server should not be judged on such things. Dont know how to use it? Read F1. Newbies are not exception.

 :cros: negative
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Prince333 on 02 08, 2019, 01:49:49 pm
Up voting  :tick:
This market system in my opinion is just wasting of time.
Nothing fun , just why someone has to go to specific location to buy something or sell it makes no sense
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Denzy on 02 08, 2019, 02:05:43 pm
I agree with reverting the system. I have 2 friends that were struggling so much understanding the new system and I was so confused aswell since last time I played was in 2015

+1  :tick:
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: thunderbolt on 02 08, 2019, 04:14:13 pm
It just worked, there was no need to complicate it, not everyone seeks for realism as posts above prove that.  :tick:
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Saintpeter on 02 08, 2019, 08:30:14 pm
I never liked the market area system and I don't think this system is suitable for CIT. I think it was one of the worst updates to CIT. I don't need to say anything more. I hopefully LSMA is removed as soon as possible.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Prototype on 02 08, 2019, 09:46:34 pm
I never liked the market area system and I don't think this system is suitable for CIT. I think it was one of the worst updates to CIT. I don't need to say anything more. I hopefully LSMA is removed as soon as possible.

I would not even imagine to read this kind of opinion. Just wow. LSA Market is one of the best place in server dude. I don't know why people accept it so negative.

If problem is just because of newbies then add an info marker around there (more than 1) and send an information message to newbies who have less than 50 hours.

Removing such an interesting feature from server is indeed a wrong decision and disrespectful behaviour against hardworkers who've made that area.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Mr.Pringles on 02 08, 2019, 09:56:59 pm
If newbies is the problem it can be just an exception for players under 50 hours to be able to sell in F7 without going to the market area. Removing the whole feature is not a solution.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: RainMan on 03 08, 2019, 08:48:31 am
No pls no. Current system is better
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Nihad12 on 03 08, 2019, 08:50:56 am
I would not even imagine to read this kind of opinion. Just wow. LSA Market is one of the best place in server dude. I don't know why people accept it so negative.

If problem is just because of newbies then add an info marker around there (more than 1) and send an information message to newbies who have less than 50 hours.

Removing such an interesting feature from server is indeed a wrong decision and disrespectful behaviour against hardworkers who've made that area.
No pls no. Current system is better
True
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Kazoki on 03 08, 2019, 03:09:45 pm
I can't understand why old players don't support removing market area system, this system causes a constant confusion to all newbie. The state of newbies should be taken in our consideration, some newbies can barely find a location of a specific job after working for a long time, they find  a way to sell to sell their resources and none buys from them. what do you think the natural react for this situation? of course they will get angry and stop playing.  Getting rid of the problem is better than forcing them to ask for  help. This system has no use except Role playing and it is not realistic entirely. in fact, the cons of it are more than the pros. it worth removing!
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Pepe on 03 08, 2019, 08:02:39 pm
I can't understand why old players don't support removing market area system, this system causes a constant confusion to all newbie. The state of newbies should be taken in our consideration, some newbies can barely find a location of a specific job after working for a long time, they find  a way to sell to sell their resources and none buys from them. what do you think the natural react for this situation? of course they will get angry and stop playing.  Getting rid of the problem is better than forcing them to ask for  help. This system has no use except Role playing and it is not realistic entirely. in fact, the cons of it are more than the pros. it worth removing!
That is exactly what concerns me. I see the dudes advertising their items over and over, showing the signs of not selling anything. You need to address the results of such problems. You've explained it damn well, they work for hours with the hope of earning money. They have the basic thought of being able to sell stuff, but what happens here is basically: they think their items are listed for sale, but their items are not being sold.

Trust me guys it is damn frustrating, very very frustrating.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Trapsfall on 03 08, 2019, 08:15:05 pm
I am totally supporting the idea of removal. The system has been changed due to lack of role play. However, a feature has been implemented so that you can use the F7 market without even visiting a market area in return of a 10% fee.  ??? ???
It's totally illogical itself as the fee kills the role play since you can use the market anywhere. Now I wonder why the current system is more 'RP-ish' than the previous one. I don't want to repeat myself. I find contrast only.

The old system must be reverted since it has no RP-ish feature as it was expected.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: SugarVanilla on 04 08, 2019, 02:10:17 am
Good one Pepe, I support this Idea. It was rough to teach the new Players to tell them go to a Market Area, and some of them are not really familiar with the place and you have to drive to get them then head to Market area for them to sell their Items.  >:D
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: AJ on 05 08, 2019, 06:28:59 am
It's Honestly an awful update I hated it when it got added, It does look more realistic but unnecessary for Cit2 as it isn't much Roleplay after all. Upvoted
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: PhanTom on 05 08, 2019, 08:24:49 am
At the beginning  it was a good idea adding  a market and stuff like that but when the time goes on I saw so many players don't  even  know that there is a market or what's  the purpose of even for me I find pointless to only be able to sell your items when you are there , players don't  even now that they can go to market put their items and go back to what they were doing instead of that they stay there and the market get so crowded and this effects our FPS . Upvoting
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Iron_Heart on 05 08, 2019, 05:55:23 pm
I agree, I didn't like it anyway since it's addition the more rp in the server the more worse and confusion I don't like being forced to travel everytime to sell my resources.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: noax on 06 08, 2019, 11:39:48 am
Tbh, this idea is pretty cool. Alot of newbies doesn't know how to use this market. :tick: :tick: Supporting
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: iShadow on 06 08, 2019, 12:48:23 pm
I am agree with you. This system is not in great demand. Maybe it's interesting for a newbie players, but an absolute waste of time for more experienced players. Much easy to buy everything from F7 in the distance without wasting a time.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: kubeQ ^;^ on 10 08, 2019, 11:45:14 pm
Totally agreed. Old system needs to come back. Who wants to AFK on hospital just to wait for someone to buy it? No one I would say. Upvoting
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: SilenT on 11 08, 2019, 03:06:58 am
Old system was very confortable, and easier for the newbies, now they are always stuck and dont know how to sell his items  :tick:
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: PUMA. on 11 08, 2019, 07:15:04 am
The same ones that supported it at first, are the same ones that want it to get removed. This better get removed since they added delivery fees, which made it as useless as not having it at all.
Title: Re: REMOVING *Market Ares* System!
Post by: Arran on 11 08, 2019, 03:23:42 pm
+32 votes. :tick: