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Title: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Nikos on 01 10, 2019, 01:24:13 pm
Well gonna be as succinct as possible. I am simply suggesting to bring back the punishment messages in the chat. They will appear like before every time a player gets punished.
Some of you may ask why we need this back? Well we actually don't, players can already see their punishments, groups can ask for the player's punish-log, and group leaders can see their members punishments already. I just think the messages were removed along with the punishlog due to the stress they caused. They actually don't cause any. Players love such messages because they are shiny and they bring attention. I am not gonna hide behind my finger and say that people don't love a bit drama, everybody does, especially if the drama is a bit minor like the one this messages will bring. People used to discuss the player's punishment and they were all smsing each other and went like "omfg dude what happened?". Please bring this back, it's so fun.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: zombie~ on 01 10, 2019, 01:27:15 pm
Just a /setting about it to disable seeing punishments messages in chat or enable it and we good. +
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: 3bood on 01 10, 2019, 01:28:08 pm
Yes why not since /punishlog is added back, if someone makes fun of other people punishments, then they can get punished by staff. Upvoting.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Angels on 01 10, 2019, 01:33:47 pm
Dude, the guy that suggested to get back/punishlog suggested this firstly and then changed it cuz he saw that it haves negative votes, sorry but negative again
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Sultan on 01 10, 2019, 01:47:55 pm
Just a /setting about it to disable seeing punishments messages in chat or enable it and we good. +
^ Zombie explained well, it can avoid spam, or we will get suggestions regarding removing punishment messages due to spam, positive.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: ViVa. on 01 10, 2019, 02:23:31 pm
Well it is good idea but maybe add a system on group system for check group players punishlog (only leaders can check for it) or you can do like when a player getting punish you can see it from group chat. The other way example make a system that when a group or squad member getting punish system will automatically give him/her warning on group. But positive because it is usefull for group leaderrs
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Nikos on 01 10, 2019, 03:05:55 pm
Well it is good idea but maybe add a system on group system for check group players punishlog (only leaders can check for it) or you can do like when a player getting punish you can see it from group chat. The other way example make a system that when a group or squad member getting punish system will automatically give him/her warning on group. But positive because it is usefull for group leaderrs
There is no reason to do that imo.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Jonio on 01 10, 2019, 03:10:19 pm
Another way to spread toxicity over chats?
Players love such messages because they are shiny and they bring attention.
How is it very useful to any of you seeing players punishment lines? If you love seeing players getting punished then it's an issue you should solve yourself.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Nikos on 01 10, 2019, 03:18:10 pm
Never said it's useful. It never was. All I said its fun.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: SugarVanilla on 01 10, 2019, 03:31:06 pm
Since someone brought up to see the /punishlogs and it got accepted which is a lot of people likes to see their own punishment, so why not add this one then? Enabling punishments is somewhat everyone can see who was that person who just got punished. Doesn't mean we are gonna laugh at someone, but probably someone will do. But reminder also, if you make fun of someone especially in teamchat/main chat; you'll get punishment also. Keep that in mind. Since it was brought up by someone, then this one should be. I am voting Positive to bring this one up; this is like back in 2010-2012 when I was around, we are able to see the punishments in the Main Chat (Correct me if I am wrong) it's available for everyone to see it.

Dude, the guy that suggested to get back/punishlog suggested this firstly and then changed it cuz he saw that it haves negative votes, sorry but negative again
I mean why not? since /punishlog was brought up again which was a lot of people didn't like it, I could be wrong though. but seeing their own punishment is their own motive to see it, not us.

Just a /setting about it to disable seeing punishments messages in chat or enable it and we good. +
I'm with you with this one, to be able to do it in settings for [preferences]. Disabled or Enabled is the option, but needs to be voted by majority of the players, though.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Cerberus on 01 10, 2019, 03:32:54 pm
I don't see any reason of keeping it private, it's not as if it's revealing any sensitive information. Perhaps, the public shaming might convince people to think twice before rule breaking?

Also, let's be honest, we all love a bit of banter in FMSG towards the player who gets punished.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Shane on 01 10, 2019, 03:42:46 pm
Another way to spread toxicity over chats?
Also , this is a way to let people get punished specially the newbies. so I don't think it's very usefull to be re-added again. and the last suggest about the /punishlog , they accepted it because they said it'll not be like the old system. only you can see your own punishments. Negative.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Nikos on 01 10, 2019, 03:56:00 pm
It brings some more attention to the rule system. And its a bit fun.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Mazenolla on 01 10, 2019, 04:10:31 pm
"its a bit fun." I was actually gonna write the same thing when I saw this post. We used to see punishments it was really cool plus we had an idea of whats punishable and whats not in particular, this is similar to people who enable support chat, they just see stuff and might find something new they didn't know about. Plus, its a bit fun.  :tick:
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Alvaro on 01 10, 2019, 04:11:42 pm
Another way to spread toxicity over chats?

Yeah, don't intoxicate our lovely pure server with people acting cute all the time. Please Jonio, we've been dealing with toxicity all this time, this won't make any difference at all...

Perhaps, the public shaming might convince people to think twice before rule breaking?

This is exactly the reason why I like this idea cause I really don't know how this server works: People who get punished gets all kind of anonymously so they won't feel ashamed for what they have done, but normal players oh we don't get any, do we?

If you don't want to feel ashamed for being known as a rule-breaker, just don't break them. Think twice next time.

Also , this is a way to let people get punished specially the newbies. so I don't think it's very usefull to be re-added again. and the last suggest about the /punishlog , they accepted it because they said it'll not be like the old system. only you can see your own punishments. Negative.
About newbies... You're completely wrong my friend. This is NOT a way to LET NEWBIES get punished but to TEACH them about the RULES this server has and therefore NOT to BREAK THEM. Newbies will read ''Xplayer got punished for X reason'' and if he/she has any idea about what that rule could involve, then that newbie will try his best not to do that so he/she will avoid getting punished.
In my opinion, this will only affect those players who already know the rules but break them just to gain an unfair advantage or to make someone rage out, in that case... They deserve a big ass announcement in the chat about which punishment did he/she got.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Pavard on 01 10, 2019, 04:19:23 pm
I suggested this in my " adding /punishlog command" suggestion. They didnt agree with me and I got a lot of negative votes. I still want to adding the punishment messages in chatbox. They scared to getting punishments and the rulebreakers will shame. If they dont want to be shy, they can follow rules. Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: CJGIANNHS on 01 10, 2019, 05:45:44 pm
I think its a good idea  :tick:
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Nikos on 01 10, 2019, 08:10:12 pm
It's not really about getting "shamed". It's just good looking and fun. It also bring attention to the rule system and maybe it can even decrease the punishment total count.
Title: Re: Re-enabling the punishment messages.
Post by: Arran on 01 10, 2019, 09:16:27 pm
Added as a preference so the players can decide.