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Title: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: kubeQQQ ^,^ on 30 04, 2020, 09:15:31 pm
Alliances and Squads



Introduction about squads
So, we all know that squads don't have that much features like groups. Main features of squads are board and interior. Thats literally all what squad can get, not counting skins/shaders and other features like that.



Alliance system for Squads
This suggestion is about Alliances for Squads, my idea is to add Alliance System for squads, the same as group one. What it contains?
1) Alliance in-game with chat (Command can be '/sac' because '/ac' is already used by groups.)
2) Forum Board for Official Alliances.


Benefits / Reasons why it should get added.
The main benefit, would be making it easier for squads to arrange events with each other. Lets say that you are going to host an event, you need participants. You are using alliance chat and you get participants in a second. Another reason can be the thing that by creating alliances, squads can get partnership with other squads, players can find new friends.


Civilian Voting / Comunity Feedback
I even managed to ask State Official Harwood to make a voting about this, I will post results here:
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Opinions / Ideas can be written below.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Wesse on 30 04, 2020, 09:17:48 pm
I think it would be useful because. There are squads that are already in the alliance right now, but they don't unite under just one tag.So they're not officially the alliance.I think it'll look fun and better if we make it official.Positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: HuMaX. on 30 04, 2020, 09:42:29 pm
That would be awesome especially when there are squads that are more active than some "semi-official/official" groups and a lot of them represent a unique concepts and ideas (CCC as an example).Joining other squads under an alliance can be a great opportunity  to identify themselves and what they believe in  by hosting joint activities/parties, sponsoring events etc...more fun for everyone. As KubeQ mentioned this concept only requires a chat and a board for the alliance in order to function properly. Upvoting.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Nems on 30 04, 2020, 09:59:58 pm
yes awesome idea, in my eyes it would be nice to see such new things in the server it will affect many things such as organizing events and stuff its a new identity and revolution in squads system espically after the creation of riots and anti riots, squads can work together in such new events after the addition of this new feature, I like the idea so much, im positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: FeRoX on 30 04, 2020, 10:41:27 pm
Lately, I have seen a lot of people taking squads as a group or leadership in any squad also working hard for his squad, So if you think about it you will find it a good idea this kind of going to make a lot of squads active and will find a lot of players attending squad alliance event just like the group, Also as we all seen that there is a lot of squads hopper who say that squads are nothing and the most important is the group this is also going to change players think about squads, 

So yes I'm positive.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: MeD. on 30 04, 2020, 10:56:48 pm
Reading this had thinking "Aren't squads dead already?" and seriously, who cares anymore about their squads? Most of the squads are deadly inactive and don't even deserve their boards anymore, at least the ones I've been into didn't.
Yet, when I approached the suggestion from another perspective, I found that implementing this would really pay a huge role at making squads active and pointful once again, instead of a dumb clusterfuck where some random players gather up just to share some skins.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Aerith on 01 05, 2020, 01:50:58 am
Well, Recently our squad did a room with 3 squads we talking, most of the command group available in the squad and I think alliance squad necessary because the squad has their alliance friend.
Positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Monster on 01 05, 2020, 01:06:32 pm
I'm Positive, and Since I'm a squad leader, I know what is it mean to have alliance chat and Staff alliance chat for Squads, that will give motivation for new squads to be better, also that will increase the communication between squads. One of Ideal Suggestions in my opinion.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Dodgers on 01 05, 2020, 01:44:54 pm
Well I hope this would be ingame already creating rooms and units with some  other squad members but u didnt think about other squad what will did as Med said now days atleast 40% of squad are totally inactive as I see this suggestion will only benifit active squads as I see inactive squad even if they made an alliance its hard to be with the active squads anyway neutral
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Cristiano on 01 05, 2020, 04:05:20 pm
It's a good idea to do it for squads, just like in groups. Not all squads are very active. This is an opportunity for inactive squads. If you want to do an event, you can find more participants. It's a good way to make new friends. It can also be a source of prestige for squads who look strong. So I support that.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: MR.Beat on 01 05, 2020, 04:13:03 pm
I agree with yiur suggestion, that will make the squads more active, and the squads will be almost like the groups, and the support on the aquads gonna be increased, my vote is Positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: UncleDrew on 01 05, 2020, 05:21:03 pm
Recently, an alliance system may be nice in them as I think it has started to gain as much importance in squads as groups.In other words, it should be able to access many features that groups have in squads.I'm positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: FastLane. on 01 05, 2020, 08:17:26 pm
I belive this suggestion would be great seeing that alliance is supposed to be a union of different groups of people by groups I mean Squads here. I don't think this system/Addition would not harm our current system because alliance are mostly for talking and allowing your squad members to enter their alliance's interior do I don't find it any harm it's just a simple addition. I think this would bring squads together and it would be very exciting to talk to other squads Positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: HarwoodButcher on 02 05, 2020, 05:57:15 pm
Having this'll make shit so much easier than just trying to make up your own squad alliance and trying to get each of the squad members trying to join a chat room or something. Also it'll be easier to arrange some events between the other allied squads as well. Especially having this could possibly bring people together and make squads a little more bigger than what they're now. Positive.

Also for those saying that squads are 'dead' and 'inactive', take a look at this:
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Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Stone on 03 05, 2020, 09:19:08 am
I would like to see this on updates , Well it is a great help for the squad leaders with this system they can easily communicate each other if they will host an event plus some squads have their own bases/zone ofcourse their alliance will have access on it. Thus I am voting Positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Xea on 03 05, 2020, 10:48:24 am
I'm upvoting your suggestion. Because As a squad later, we can't go further having a board and a interior. Also I do get why squads have less things than groups. Squads should become group thing for people. Groups are the main fun and squads like the second. But bringing Alliance System to squads won't change this. We will be able create alliances only for chat, doing events together.
 
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Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Thunder. on 03 05, 2020, 11:49:17 pm
The most important thing for the players is Groups because there is a challenge between the groups and each others, adding alliance system will give a challenge for them to make alliance and make events and create the best alliance in CIT, so this will give the squad leaders something to do and as we can see in the votes, the players support this very much.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Koey# on 04 05, 2020, 03:01:48 pm
I dont agree here, since squads and groups are different things. There will be almost no difference between them if it implies, let groups and squads be two different enitities. It will also be annoy to player as there are already tons of chats /gc /ac /gsc /sc /ssc, there will be even more.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: SARUN on 04 05, 2020, 11:30:24 pm
I think it will make the Squad more activities and collaborate as Alliances. And do well together, and will make players more interested in joining the Squad Positive
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: MajdeTheGamer on 05 05, 2020, 01:16:20 am
I dont have a problem with adding, but the problem I have is its name, calling it an alliance would be lame because alliances are made for fighting AND we already got that feature for groups so if u find another name for it, I am with you
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: kubeQQQ ^,^ on 05 05, 2020, 12:39:08 pm
I dont have a problem with adding, but the problem I have is its name, calling it an alliance would be lame because alliances are made for fighting AND we already got that feature for groups so if u find another name for it, I am with you
your logic is wrong.
If it would be like that then whats the point of Civilian Alliances? They are fighting too? No.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: ManosGR on 06 05, 2020, 12:09:05 pm
Even though  most of the votes are positive, I'm gonna stay neutral for certain reasons. Adding squad alliance sounds extremely cool at first sight, like every other squad recent addition. People claim that this will promote teamwork between squads but I believe that squads rarely work on themselves, only a few squads are active. A brand new chat and a forum board do sound awesome but why implementing a whole new system just for these. All of the positive votes above do have nice points but I dont know if it would be effective enough to make a change and promote squad activity. Last but not least, I dont really believe that giving squads the exact same perks as groups would help them improve. I'm not negative anyways because its addition will not harm anyone as well and there is no drawback to adding it.
Title: Re: Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Unity on 08 05, 2020, 02:58:47 pm
After reviewing your suggestion, we obtained the following results:

- 15 positive votes.
- 2 negative votes.
- 2 neutral votes.

Marked as high priority
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: mizoryyy on 08 05, 2020, 03:19:13 pm
I honestly don't see the point of this, squads are supposed to be an alternative for groups to chat with friends and not more beyond that, squad activities are also pretty limited in general except for a few exceptions who host car shows, trainings(not sure) and Road trips. If any squads want to do a joint event, they can simply contact the squad leaders of the other squad prior to the event.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Batooot on 09 05, 2020, 12:35:41 am
Honestly this doesn't make any sense tho since the squad system is already useless, It only exists for good skins tho so whats the point adding alliance squad system and waste our developers time with something that won't make that difference.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Pollux on 09 05, 2020, 10:19:49 am
I love your idea, would help us communicate and get closer together as a community as squads are in more harmony than groups. I would like to see this implemented as soon as possible.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: kubeQQQ ^,^ on 09 05, 2020, 04:49:20 pm
Honestly this doesn't make any sense tho since the squad system is already useless, It only exists for good skins tho so whats the point adding alliance squad system and waste our developers time with something that won't make that difference.
Okay, so with your point of view, when something is bad, its better to ignore that and let it die, instead of helping it and making it better?
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Candy on 09 05, 2020, 09:12:23 pm
I was going to downvote your suggestion, but after reading it, I found it to be a good idea :)

Since, I've been playing CIT for years, I have noticed that, nowadays squad aren't really active. Most of them are dead. The only reason, why some squads are getting many active members, are the skins. People joining to get the skins, and thatÅ› it. I know many squads got members, but they aren't even active. So my point is that, nowadays squads are currently pointless. Yes, some of them can be active, but for real, there are few of them.

If your suggestion will be added, it will bring a little excitement. Many squads can work better together, communication would be better. I hope we can see  how squads are teamworking, killing cops and so on.

But maybe we should make it like that, 1 squad can be alliance with only 2 squads.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: GoldenFTW on 10 05, 2020, 02:51:35 am
Most of the Squads are dead specially at the Law  side  only no patrols together or trainings I hope that this suggestion will make the Squad become active and host actives again , Postive
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Expire on 10 05, 2020, 04:01:36 am
I'm just gonna drop this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0vxIrzpiak&feature=emb_title
It's a one hour video, if you lost hope just jump to the minute 27 where we probably reached our peak, 50 participants.
The only reason I really agree with kubeq in this suggestion is as you see in the video we already got a Squad Alliance chat but not everyone has joined nor everyone knows about it. It would really make it much easier for us to communicate n stuff. Yes, I'd really like to see this implemented. Thank you!
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Djapp on 10 05, 2020, 08:49:13 am
It is a good opportunity for squads to support their activities and they can work together.it means squads can partner with other squads , all we know that in the recent period many squads are dead  and I think this idea will help squads and become active again . I am with you , Positive
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Suix86 on 10 05, 2020, 04:53:41 pm
We're the biggest group of friendly squads at this moment, and there's no a tool to keep the squads in deeper relation, such as ally chat etc..
Would be amazing to have that system, and improve the squad features even more.
Positive vote.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Hamza. on 11 05, 2020, 12:43:11 am
Greetings,
   I am actually a founder of a squad named Interpol so I am represting my squad's views here. I actually want this added ASAP because we have some allies we want to form an alliance with a squad but we have to whitelist eachother to alternate that alliance so adding this will actually help every squad in the long term aswell. This can improve the Community Squads Board as alliance board will increase the activity of the board.

Positive.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Stun on 12 05, 2020, 08:47:39 am
I think it is a good idea to add this to squads because already there is friendly squads and they hope to be alliance to talk in alliance and chill out with another people chat to make new friends with squads members and to have a good time and to have fun host events and activities for both squad or more I think it is a good idea and useful Positive  :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: SARUN on 15 05, 2020, 07:04:16 pm
I think it would be useful because. There are squads that are already in the alliance right now, but they don't unite under just one tag.So they're not officially the alliance.I think it'll look fun and better if we make it official.positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: TroubleShot on 22 05, 2020, 05:43:33 pm
this will be good and usefull mostly cuz some squads already formed "alliance" with other squads ingame
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Atheer on 22 05, 2020, 05:58:07 pm
Honestly this is a good suggestion and it can make some sense meanwhile squads will be more active than before, but it isn't good to all kind of squads. It'd be good to the most Miscellaneous Squads of CIT, they'll start becoming more active and hosting events, activity arrangements and many further stuff. I believe that the whitelist feature is enough but it would become better if we add the alliance system to squads. I am upvoting for this sensible suggestion.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: HuMaX. on 22 05, 2020, 08:18:12 pm
Honestly this is a good suggestion and it can make some sense meanwhile squads will be more active than before, but it isn't good to all kind of squads. It'd be good to the most Miscellaneous Squads of CIT, they'll start becoming more active and hosting events, activity arrangements and many further stuff. I believe that the whitelist feature is enough but it would become better if we add the alliance system to squads. I am upvoting for this sensible suggestion.
I believe that squads regardless of their type (Criminal/LAW/Miscellaneous) will benefit equally from this system because every type has its own unique activities that distinguishes it from the rest. For example LAW squads can host joint patrols, training etc... Criminal squads can unite to host a riot, rob stores and hit ARs & CEs together.

And about the whitelist feature, its almost useless nowadays ( only to get access to interiors). This is what Squads only need from this system:
Alliance system for Squads
This suggestion is about Alliances for Squads, my idea is to add Alliance System for squads, the same as group one. What it contains?
1) Alliance in-game with chat (Command can be '/sac' because '/ac' is already used by groups.)
2) Forum Board for Official Alliances.

Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: McGee on 23 05, 2020, 06:37:35 am

Hello community, it seems to me a great idea, that the squads have an alliance since it will be a little more fun to share with other squads, since the groups have greater characteristics than the squad, I agree to have an alliance with squad, my vote is positive . :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: TheCwN on 23 05, 2020, 01:04:41 pm
Personally, I want to give an example of myself, I managed a good squad in my time. I was upset that there were no scripts to be alliance with them rather than getting other squads to whitelist. Most squads on the server are friendly with each other now and they want to put eachothers into the alliance . It would be very, very good for this type of script to come into the game. I'm giving you a positive vote.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Prolycan on 24 05, 2020, 06:21:01 am
Well, Squads became useless nowadays. Players in CIT, joining squads just because for free skins/shaders. I am using squad system to talk with my friends with /sc command. Squads are out of activities that going CE's , AR's or take turfs together that's why they don't need alliance system. Groups use that system for calling some help whenever they need but I am not sure its needed for squads. Even currently squads doing nothing together so I don't think they will use alliance system greatly.  In fact, There are too many commands that make me confused all the time ( /gc /ac /gsc /asc /uc /sc) I don't want to be vacillated of seeing messages on my screen whether it's squad alliance or group alliance. so my vote is negative.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Talha-Khan on 24 05, 2020, 10:23:00 am
Well, Squads became useless nowadays. Players in CIT, joining squads just because for free skins/shaders. I am using squad system to talk with my friends with /sc command. Squads are out of activities that going CE's , AR's or take turfs together that's why they don't need alliance system. Groups use that system for calling some help whenever they need but I am not sure its needed for squads. Even currently squads doing nothing together so I don't think they will use alliance system greatly.  In fact, There are too many commands that make me confused all the time ( /gc /ac /gsc /asc /uc /sc) I don't want to be vacillated of seeing messages on my screen whether it's squad alliance or group alliance. so my vote is negative.
You sure that squads are dead and useless? I advice you to check this topic. https://cit.gg/index.php?topic=359424.0
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: kubeQQQ ^,^ on 24 05, 2020, 12:18:29 pm
Well, Squads became useless nowadays. Players in CIT, joining squads just because for free skins/shaders. I am using squad system to talk with my friends with /sc command. Squads are out of activities that going CE's , AR's or take turfs together that's why they don't need alliance system. Groups use that system for calling some help whenever they need but I am not sure its needed for squads. Even currently squads doing nothing together so I don't think they will use alliance system greatly.  In fact, There are too many commands that make me confused all the time ( /gc /ac /gsc /asc /uc /sc) I don't want to be vacillated of seeing messages on my screen whether it's squad alliance or group alliance. so my vote is negative.
After reading your opinion, I got confused. You mentioned only Criminal/Law squads, I feel like you forgot about OTHER Squads, also, you mentioned that you don't like the fact that there are lots of commands, no one said you need to use them, you can disable every chatbox in /settings if you don't want to see it. Also, I suggest checking General Chat > "Alliance Event (Squads are dead btw)" topic.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Counter on 31 05, 2020, 12:07:04 am
Adding the squads alliance is not bad, because the squad is like a group here. There are only minor differences. Indeed, some players did my question, if we can create an alliance between the two squads, but unfortunately we can't, my vote is Positive.
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Tech. on 31 05, 2020, 02:28:09 am
I think it's an great idea because I see that squads doesn't have features like groups and we have focus on squads as we focus on groups and it will make squads more closer from each other and will make more relations my vote is Positive :tick:
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Tenpenny on 31 05, 2020, 03:00:17 am
I am supporting this because most of squad need alliances to join and events togther. I was upset that there were no scripts to be alliance with them rather than getting other squads to whitelist.I think it is a good idea and useful . Positive
Title: Re: [+++] Alliance system for Squads
Post by: Arran on 03 06, 2020, 04:45:49 pm
Since copying the script and doing find and replaces means not much manual work required, so added this.