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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #30 on: 19 03, 2021, 04:16:12 pm »
Vaccinated people can go inside the store and vaccinated people can stay outside what does this mean?

This means exactly what I said. That people are restricted of their basic rights for not being vaccinated. Thank you for confirming my statement.

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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #31 on: 19 03, 2021, 04:28:59 pm »
This means exactly what I said. That people are restricted of their basic rights for not being vaccinated. Thank you for confirming my statement.

Do you act stupid or what?

before the vaccine came out no one was able to do any of these things and after the vaccine, even the unvaccinated people are able to do a lot of stuff that they weren't able to do due to the virus/lockdown so that makes your statement idiotic at best

Tell me btw so if someone isn't vaccinated against let us say hepatitis should they be able to go everyone and spread it like crazy? if your answer is yes to that question then I have to say I have wasted my time because you are a lost cause


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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #32 on: 19 03, 2021, 05:14:09 pm »
before the vaccine came out no one was able to do any of these things and after the vaccine, even the unvaccinated people are able to do a lot of stuff that they weren't able to do due to the virus/lockdown so that makes your statement idiotic at best

That's called a lockdown. Now after the lockdown, everyone should be able to go back to how life was, however in israel unvaccinated people are now restricted into several places, this is exactly proving what I spoke about. (Actually even lockdowns are an abuse of power, but lets ignore that for a second.)

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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #33 on: 19 03, 2021, 06:42:48 pm »
Do you act stupid or what?

before the vaccine came out no one was able to do any of these things and after the vaccine, even the unvaccinated people are able to do a lot of stuff that they weren't able to do due to the virus/lockdown so that makes your statement idiotic at best

Tell me btw so if someone isn't vaccinated against let us say hepatitis should they be able to go everyone and spread it like crazy? if your answer is yes to that question then I have to say I have wasted my time because you are a lost cause

I'm not vaccinated at all, any problems? Nope.


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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #34 on: 07 04, 2021, 10:06:18 am »
Before we talk about vaccine passports, it's important to note that it's hard to convince the more skeptical people to take any of the current vaccines on offering.

The mRNA vaccines are not based on mature technology. Rather, these are being used for the first time in a mass immunization program. They don't have a mature track record like other types of vaccines. But because millions of people have already taken the Pfizer vaccine, we can say that their credibility is slowly increasing. Are there going to be long-term side effects with these vaccines? Many medically trained people believe that remains a possibility. Therefore many people are not willing to take a mRNA vaccine such as Pfizer and Moderna.

As for the Chinese ones, we don't really know much about these. The companies hide data from scientists, and the vaccines have mostly been released in countries with restricted media freedom. So basically we don't know if something is being hidden from the public. Let's just say products from China don't always have good reputation for quality.  Serbia has been using one of these vaccines in its mass immunization program since January, yet the number of new COVID cases is actually increasing.

The AstraZeneca vaccine can have nasty side effects. It has been canceled in several countries like Switzerland. This vaccine was the most promising one, and I was looking forward to taking it because of its association with Oxford, but real-world data shows that a number of important countries do not want the AstraZeneca vaccine because of its risks.

Some researchers say that Ad-5 vaccines could increase chances of getting HIV if you are an uncircumcised male. This is one of the reasons why HIV-burdened South Africa was reluctant to order them. Corona is nasty, but HIV is even worse.

So all of these vaccines have certain risks. The smart thing to do is to weight these risks against the risks of getting COVID and COVID-related complications, and then make decisions.
« Last Edit: 07 04, 2021, 11:17:30 am by domi »
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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #35 on: 07 04, 2021, 07:06:07 pm »
The smart thing to do is to weight these risks against the risks of getting COVID and COVID-related complications, and then make decisions.

1) Getting infected by a virus that has a low mortality rate, especially if you're young and healthy
2) Getting a vaccine that has unknown long-term effects

It doesn't seem logical for anyone except for people who are in the high mortality zone to take any vaccine.

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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #36 on: 09 04, 2021, 01:03:27 pm »
1) Getting infected by a virus that has a low mortality rate, especially if you're young and healthy
2) Getting a vaccine that has unknown long-term effects

It doesn't seem logical for anyone except for people who are in the high mortality zone to take any vaccine.

I'd word it like this

1) Getting infected by a virus that you can pass on to close people who may belong to a group with a higher-than-average mortality rate

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2) Getting a vaccine that has unknown long-term effects, but so far seems OK, perhaps deceptively so

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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #37 on: 09 04, 2021, 02:48:08 pm »
I'd word it like this

1) Getting infected by a virus that you can pass on to close people who may belong to a group with a higher-than-average mortality rate

or

2) Getting a vaccine that has unknown long-term effects, but so far seems OK, perhaps deceptively so

How it seems ok to get vaccinated by any of those shit? 27 years old healthy women weeks ago died in coma after she got vaccinated(Georgia, Tbilisi), in media news they're covering the fact by saying that "over 3600 medical person got vaccinated with it already, but only she had developed severe allergic reaction". In reality, the number of stupid people who give themselves to the vaccine in order to be tested like a laboratory mice are very few, meaning how they're coming up with false facts to cover up the deaths(many people died all around the world) caused by vaccine and promote other people to try it out as "it is safe".


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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #38 on: 09 04, 2021, 03:44:33 pm »
I'd word it like this

1) Getting infected by a virus that you can pass on to close people who may belong to a group with a higher-than-average mortality rate

or

2) Getting a vaccine that has unknown long-term effects, but so far seems OK, perhaps deceptively so

Except, vaccinated people can still get the virus, and can also transmit it to other people, including people from the higher-than-average mortality rate. So now, not only are doing the same as before, you are also prone to possible long-term effects.

A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing.

The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Vaccinated people could potentially still get COVID-19 and spread it to others.

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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #39 on: 10 04, 2021, 07:02:26 pm »
Except, vaccinated people can still get the virus, and can also transmit it to other people, including people from the higher-than-average mortality rate. So now, not only are doing the same as before, you are also prone to possible long-term effects.
Good job you just understood the purpose of a vaccination

I wont risk permanent damage of my lungs, brain and other organs due to possible severe symptoms of the virus
I wont risk blocking ICU beds in a hospital in my country or any country I travel to
Im at a lower risk of infecting anybody else with the virus
Im reducing the risk of letting the virus mutate even more

And thats why the governments can grant us more freedom


How it seems ok to get vaccinated by any of those shit? 27 years old healthy women weeks ago died in coma after she got vaccinated(Georgia, Tbilisi), in media news they're covering the fact by saying that "over 3600 medical person got vaccinated with it already, but only she had developed severe allergic reaction". In reality, the number of stupid people who give themselves to the vaccine in order to be tested like a laboratory mice are very few, meaning how they're coming up with false facts to cover up the deaths(many people died all around the world) caused by vaccine and promote other people to try it out as "it is safe".
Oh no, 7 out of 31,4 million vaccinated people in the UK died, how deadly  :cry:
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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #40 on: 10 04, 2021, 07:39:20 pm »
Oh no, 7 out of 31,4 million vaccinated people in the UK died, how deadly  :cry:

Oh, it has been long enough after those people got vaccinated to know if vaccine affected their health anyhow. Also what the fuck are those numbers? I don't think that many people would risk their lives being a laboratory mouse for the untested vaccine, ah you got that numbers from some trustful media source, right.


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I wont risk permanent damage of my lungs, brain and other organs due to possible severe symptoms of the virus
The chance of permanent damage from a virus is less than having a permanent damage from vaccine. Unknown and uncertain how it mutates DNA, the malfunctioned mutations caused by vaccines affect the future generations, not only you.



It's that people are getting brainwashed deeply enough to believe that the vaccines are made for people to be healthy. Isn't it ironical that they're forcing people to take vaccines? Forcing people to be "healthy" in a world where overpopulation is becoming a bigger problem each day? Meanwhile wasting billions of money advertising and campaigning their vaccines for people to take them?

Have you ever heard of marketing, psychological manipulation of mass people? Population is being set on a mindset which dictates how they behave towards certain events, meaning those people who are relatively hard to change their psychological state or awareness towards life changing occurrences are very few, mainly people who's still got high sense of survivability, self-responsibility and intelligence, in a world where comfort zone had literally lowered everyone capabilities to zero, especially in 1st world countries.

I can talk on the subject forever, can go in any direction and explain every detail, but when it's already happening, masses of people getting brainwashed, it's hard for anyone to open their eyes and more importantly, I should have no big interest to clarify something to unknown people.
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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #41 on: 10 04, 2021, 09:01:56 pm »
Oh, it has been long enough after those people got vaccinated to know if vaccine affected their health anyhow. Also what the fuck are those numbers? I don't think that many people would risk their lives being a laboratory mouse for the untested vaccine, ah you got that numbers from some trustful media source, right.

lol



The chance of permanent damage from a virus is less than having a permanent damage from vaccine. Unknown and uncertain how it mutates DNA, the malfunctioned mutations caused by vaccines affect the future generations, not only you.
No its not, stop spreading false information on this board

@Coke you are right I have to start marking these posts to prevent other players from getting infected because of bs posts like this one


It's that people are getting brainwashed deeply enough to believe that the vaccines are made for people to be healthy. Isn't it ironical that they're forcing people to take vaccines? Forcing people to be "healthy" in a world where overpopulation is becoming a bigger problem each day? Meanwhile wasting billions of money advertising and campaigning their vaccines for people to take them?

Have you ever heard of marketing, psychological manipulation of mass people? Population is being set on a mindset which dictates how they behave towards certain events, meaning those people who are relatively hard to change their psychological state or awareness towards life changing occurrences are very few, mainly people who's still got high sense of survivability, self-responsibility and intelligence, in a world where comfort zone had literally lowered everyone capabilities to zero, especially in 1st world countries.

I can talk on the subject forever, can go in any direction and explain every detail, but when it's already happening, masses of people getting brainwashed, it's hard for anyone to open their eyes and more importantly, I should have no big interest to clarify something to unknown people.
You can keep believing in your conspiracy theories, they are not relevant to me
I'm vaccinated, you are not, good luck
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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #42 on: 11 04, 2021, 03:15:38 am »
First off, don't edit my post again, that's a clear abuse of your power, you could simply point out your opinion in a quote.

Your post is a perfect example of how brainwashed people react to a healthy minded opinions, when everything is in fact with logical assumptions or cosequences lead them to seek  help from the painted sources with illogical or unproven "scientific data" from which they got their opinion from. Your opinion is based on something, something that you believe is true, you can't be open minded because you're too depended on those sources, you are believing everything what they they, blindly without having any questions. That's exactly what they want, don't ever say anything about anyone spreading false information...

As I sad, I've no intention or encouragement to chase people and make them to believe what is true and what not, all of the conversations with me and you will end up with your stupid reply of "me got info from scientist, you not, me is englightened with brainwashism, me good", so in all honesty, good luck...



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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #43 on: 11 04, 2021, 05:48:30 am »
lol


No its not, stop spreading false information on this board

@Coke you are right I have to start marking these posts to prevent other players from getting infected because of bs posts like this one

You can keep believing in your conspiracy theories, they are not relevant to me
I'm vaccinated, you are not, good luck

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Re: Vaccine passport
« Reply #44 on: 11 04, 2021, 06:35:49 am »
Well, that's bad news from my point of view, it would be a breaking point in the already-existing limitation that has been taking place and advancing bit by bit ever since the COVID-19 "Pandemic" started. however, forcing people to take vaccines that are fully loaded with chemicals we have no idea what they are about or what they were mixed up with, it is better to be cautious and try to stick to unofficial/local supermarkets that don't support that passport system, our health should be our priority. I highly agree with Arran on what he said about governments, if they informed us earlier instead of all the political mayhem happening in the background that resulted to this out break, none of this would have happened in the first place, and I personally wouldn't trust any organizations on that level of carelessness.
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